Let's Be Clear On Christians With Tattoos | Tim Ross
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There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28
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Exactly! We can't cherry pick stuff out of the Bible and look for what we can get away with just because it pleases us. A lot of sin is pleasurable... we sacrifice and turn from it anyway. This is a false teaching Tim. Get more bread.
This verse is stating basically that no one is superior between jews or Greeks, male or female, etc. It saying that we are all one in Christ, meaning we are all on the same level. It means that just because Jewish people who are followers of Christ choose not to get tattoos & others who are followers do, it doesn't make the Jews any better than that person. Because is it by Faith that we are children of God not by law. Just following the Law word for word doesn't make u any better than the next Christian. It is your measure of true Faith that proves you to be children of God or not. Galatians 3:7-14, Galatians 3:17-29
@@shaniceheard7159 yeah I was like this is not the context of that verse 😂
@@shaniceheard7159 thanks for breaking that down helped me understand better ✊🏾
As much as I love Tim Ross, when God created the earth and rested and made holy the seventh day, it was for all humanity not just Jews. Adam and Eve were not Jews. We don't get to pick and choose when we should do something that God has specifically designated. The one commandment God said to Remember we are intent on doing our own thing with.
The sabbath is specifically for jews because it wasn't made a requirement until the Jewish law. That's not to say a Christian can't observe it but only jews were required by law to do so. Also because Jesus was born, died, and rose again the Jewish law doesn't pertain to us with the exception of the 10 commandments which are essentially ways to deal with God and your fellow man and often deemed the moral law which Jesus reinforces in Mark 12:39-31.
@@kingleo5368 were Adam and Eve Jews? Jesus got baptized did He need to? Was it an example to us? Was God tired after He created? Why did He create it at Creation week? Why did He rest during His death on Sabbath? Think about those things. If I said to you not cheating on your wife was for the Jews, not stealing was for the Jews, not lying was for the Jews would you agree? God gave us a day to rest, reflect and commune with Him on the seventh day and it’s a bad thing or it’s Jewish? Think about that
@Cleon Richardson Adam and eve were not Jewish but where did they observe the sabbath? Jesus was baptized because he was/is the example for how we observe many things as Christians and baptism is one of those. I'm not sure what you mean by rested during his death but the reason he rose on the third day was because it was prophesiedby himself that it would be so. In my comment I spoke about the moral law or the 20 commandment so go reread that. The point is if you want to observe the sabbath then do it. However like most old testament law it isn't a requirement for Christians. Jesus himself didn't observe the sabbath as it was written in the law but I guess He's wrong too.
@@kingleo5368 I realize that you have made up your mind about this so Luke 4:16 would not make any impression on you where it says plainly that Jesus went to church, read the Word and it was something He was accustomed to every Sabbath. If you honestly feel that we are not called to observe not murdering people, not coveting, not lying, not stealing etc. then if someone steals from you or lies to you then nothing is wrong. My concern is that in order to push the narrative of no longer observing Sabbath you have to get rid of all the other commandments as well and the Bible says that you can't take away any of them. However, do have a wonderful day and a wonderful new year.
@Cleon Richardson obviously you haven't read anything I typed and you're the one that's made their mind. I've already said the moral law is still in place and was reinforced by Jesus. Yes he went to church and participated but he also healed on the sabbath and had the Disciples pick corn on the sabbath. So like I said he didn't observe it like the law said to which is not doing any form of work or labor. Not observing it doesn't throw away the whole 10 commandments. The law does not save nor does it condemn. Jesus saves and God condemns those that do not accept Jesus. We have a new covenant in Jesus. Which means some new parameters and some which are still in place. The sabbath is one that is no longer in place as a requirement just like animal sacrifice or diet restrictions.
How would you describe worldliness to others? Is there such a thing as being worldly anymore? The tattoo culture did not start in the church, but the world. It seems to me to be the essence of worldly identity. I guess my question is what would your measure be as to what are worldly behaviors?
Anything that grieves the Holy Spirit is worldly, as much as we live in the world and some of the things we things do like going to restaurants and so forth are “worldly” but we are lead by the Holy Spirit, not everything that is seen as good , is correct in God’s eyes. Paul talks about all things being lawful to him but not all things expedient to him, so according to the world theres nothing wrong with masturbation because then your not having sex, but we know that Spiritually it is the spirit of lust that is at work sometimes and therefore we exercise self control and out of obedience to the Lord . So being “ wordly” is following the spirit of Disobedience or Rebellion that the world has come to have against the Lord .
We’re never condemned for previous behavior, just going forward it’s best to lay low on such behaviors. No hate intended, but love for the new creation.
Scripture tells us what worldliness is. And it has nothing to do with tattoos.
@@3n1fss how tight or loose is your definition of worldliness? Abortion, porn, smoking pot…not clearly sanctioned either. Jesus said the gate is narrow that leads to life and the wide path leads to death. What does it mean to be holy?
The movie business didn’t start in the church either. does that mean going to the movies is a sin? Surely not
To those who do talk about tattoos, if you actually did read then it also says that you shouldn't get a haircut, no edge up fam, yet there you are crispy lol
Hmmmm, I find it funny how Christians and for the most part ministers and pastors choose to teach the Word of God as it fits their narrative and want to appease, for lack of a better term, the people or congregation to keep them engaged in their sermons. I agree that if you came to accept Christ and you had a tattoo before, no you're not going to hell because you repented from sin, therfore the blood of Yahshua cleanses you and makes you a new creature in Him. But I don't agree that if you already are a born again believer, you can and it's permisible to get a tattoo because it doesn't serve any purpose as it pertains to the kingdom of God. If we,as the light of the world, are going to act the same as the world does and participate in the same manner, how are we supposed lead those who are in darkness to come and accept the light? Yahshua said that though we are in this world, we are not of this world( meaning the believers). Brother Tim, I ask you this question, if you adopt a child into your family, isn't he required to adhere to the same rules you have established in your household? What makes us think that God is any different?
I completely agree that we must conform to God’s rule and in the word of God. However, where I must disagree is the BIBLICAL argument that tattoos are wrong. Is it culturally acceptable? That differs. However, first off it is a part of the old covenant requirements and regulations so it’s already at a disadvantage. Second of all, the verse before that speaks about not trimming the beard so if we’re going to honor the tattoos, we must honor the entire passage. That includes dietary restrictions and everything else that comes under the law. As Paul said, once we break one part of the law, we’ve broken the entire law. However, through Jesus we now no longer subscribe to the law but under the new covenant. I agree we still must be holy, we still must live our lives with a difference, however the difference is produced from our righteousness and the Holy Spirit within us fitting the rules within the confines of the word of God. Not false religiosity and legalism.
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@@nathanbourjolly8328 it's curious how when you speak the truth about who God is and what he requires through his word, many take offense to it and start making up excuses or try to minimize the importance of it. I ask you this, is the constitution for everyone or was it for those who lived during the 1700's, the time when the constitution was implemented? Exactly my point and after all of this time, it's still our duty to uphold and obey it at all times. The Word of God transcends any law man has made and yet we treat it as old news for the people of back then. We need to know the difference between the commandments and the ordances that Yahuwah gave to Moses to relay to his people. Like I said in my comment before Paul says that we are adopted into the family of Yah through the blood of Yahshua. Therefore , if you are adopted into a family you are required to adhere to every rule that the head of the household has implemented. The reason why there's so many theories about what you can or should do is because the leaders nowadays don't want to follow what God has implemented from the beginning and choose to teach what their opinion is instead of what God truly wants. The Bible says that if you want wisdom, God is willing to give it freely and without reproach. Instead of depending and what man thinks you can and should do, why don't you pray to God and ask for his wisdom to know what he requires from us? Romans 3:4 says " God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, And mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Romans 3:4 KJV.
@@josesanchez7970 I hear you but just Add some Love & Grace into what you're saying. Babies don't start out running... The goal is to witness to God's Amazing Love so that one may ask what must I do to be saved.
@@JDrum7 oh trust me that is love and grace. Telling someone the truth about the word of God is loving and showing grace to them because you're showing that you actually care about them enough to show them the light and guide them to Yahshua through his Word. Listen, I'm not saying you but most people get offended when you speak truth about the Word to them because it confronts you and like the Bible says it's like if we were put in front of a mirror and shows us our flaws and weaknesses and let's us know that no matter the level of education, wealth, intelligence, and position, we all fall short of what God really wants for us and He truly wants us to be successful in everything we do, especially when it pertains to our relationship and service to Him. See, I know that some people don't grasp the importance of this but the fact that the moment you open your eyes and can get out of bed is enough to be thankful for Yahuwah is showing his mercy and grace through giving us life that day. The rest is just a bonus and let's us know how much He TRULLY loves us. Now that is God's way us showing us his love and grace, sometimes we don't understand it because His mind is so complex that in our humanity we get lost in trying to understand what He's doing, but the fact is, we're NEVER going to understand fully who God really is and why he does and operates in the manner in which He does. But in all honesty he never asked us to, He just asks us to obey and follow his Word. I'm imperfect in every way , but God's grace and mercy is evident in my life and yours, as imperfect as we are, we're alive and well while others aren't that fortunate. We always as humans, tend to try to understand the mind of God and tend to put Him in a box and say no, this is what He should do or this is what " I " think he is and to be frank, we will never understand that until we are reunited with Yahshua in the celestial city. And for me, that's sufficient. May Yahuwah bless you today and always.
I spoke with my Dad about this years ago. He said you have to be careful to know that the Bible had periods in it when certain instructions where for certain people. It’s important to take your time reading it to get a complete understanding. It takes some time
So tattoos are wrong for some people in the old testament but in the new testament people can tattoo their entire body and its ok?
@@mariascott1411 the instructions in Leviticus 19 were for the pagans.
@@Apha-hl2km so what you are saying that it was wrong to have tattoos in the old days but God sanctions tattoos in modern days so its ok to puncture your skin and inject ink a foreign object into your skin and bloodstream? Which means that we can worship idols also?
@mariascott1411 if I get a tattoo that says "Through Jesus we are saved" and it touches someone's heart more than telling them, is that terrible? If someone who connects with art is able to be saved through it, imma do it
@@TheClopez well yea...people love to twist the Bible to suit themselves...you will do what pleases you and then say its for a worthy cause but doing your own seemingly good thing and not what God requires you to do is a total failure...
I wonder if I can walk up to my church building and do some graffiti without being stoned or locked up. Just ah wonder! Convenient Christianity is a serious curse of the day. May we be lead by the Spirit of God and not let by our intelligence.
Amen!
You’re absolutely right. This is a pure example of convenient Christianity.
I have a tattoo but this scriptures convicts me to not get anymore.
1 Corinthians 6:19 (KJV) What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1 Corinthians 6:20 (KJV) For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
I can’t go along with this. That means the laws about sexual immorality does not pertain to us as well. You lost me with this. We cannot pick and choose what we will and will not follow.
Def agree!!! But the context that they were written in back then aren’t connecting with todays born again Christian’s in my belief!
There’s a lot of laws that were written in the Old Testament due to Jesus not freeing us yet! So the spiritual boundaries put in place were a lot more vulgar than the spiritual AWARENESS that’s is in Jesus and found thru the Holy Spirit.
Just my opinion tho
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You didn't watch the whole video.
This sounds really really great if you don’t actually study the Word for yourself, and grab snippets of information from others.Let’s remember our Father is a King not a president of 4 years voted by a certain group of people from specific political party. There’s no amendment that can added to fit our personal agenda. He has Laws , and those are set in stone for the betterment of the dwellers within. We can’t say we want to be citizens of His kingdom but when it’s time to follow the laws, we use the “well Im not originally from here, I just live here” card.
If you came in the kingdom already tattoo’d up,that is totally fine; if you came in not knowing the true sabbath, that is totally fine; but understand this: the way you came in the kingdom, will not be the way you reside in it. As we’re learning more and more about His Word, it’s crucial that we study the Word line upon line, precept upon precept because ALL SCRIPTURE is written to correct us, and mold us into His righteousness.
2 Timothy 3: 16-17
I pray that each of us under these comments make it through the gates and hear Well done. 🙏🏾
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Thank you very much!!! Everything he is saying is Biblically wrong.
There is no scripture that states tattoos are a sin and nothing in scripture even suggests that you could make that argument.
Tho I agree with a lot of what you said you still didn’t provide scripture stating that it was against Gods law for Christian’s to get tattoos. There’s plenty of scriptures in the Bible where God is literally talking to specific people for specific reasons
If you don't read your Bible this makes perfect sense 🤔
😂 exactly
Whewwwww that’s a bar!
No discernment in the church at all nowadays . Smh
That Part😂
What are you saying?
I thought the the 7th day Sabbath IS in the 10 commandments though.
He double talking! He just need more knowledge, pray for him
If the old testament and its principles have no bearing on my life. So why should I read leviticus to find out what sexual immorality is cant I just leave that to my own conscience? And how do the "10 commandments go without saying" when they were given to the Hebrew and not to the gentile nation? Tattoos are a gentile pagan practice so if you've done it in the past why would you continue this pagan practice?
Jesus is lord of the Sabbath and speaks on this in many scriptures. He wants us still obey the Sabbath means come into his rest. Lay your burdens on him and be free.
Lost me on the whole "I do observe the Sabbath, but it doesn't have to be on the same day" as the Jewish Sabbath... My brother in Christ, the 10 Commandments can't go "without saying" if you ignore that Genesis tells us which day is the actual Sabbath. It's the 7th day, the day that God rested on.
Additional to the generationally continuous observance of a particular day as the God's Sabbath day of rest, a day which was never questioned as being the 7th day even by the Powers that abolished it, there's a whole documented history on how the Sabbath got replaced with resting on "the venerable day of the sun" (aka. the Lord's Day) which also simultaneously prohibited the Christian observation of the true Sabbath as commanded by God in His 10 Commandments.
I agree completely. If you have a tatoo, you arent going to hell. And you can still have a relationship with God that is fruitful and thriving.
I advice the people I serve though not to get it because, what is the motive? 95% of the time someone tells me their motive for getting a tattoo its not for the Glory of Christ, it’s usually a selfish reason, so why do it?
Secondly, i have encountered people even believers who cannot grow and move beyond a certain point because they have been held back by a door they opened through the tatoo. What we sometimes ignore is the cultural and spiritual meaning of tatoos. Tatoos can be used as a seal. There was a boy who was having some demonic expressions at a certain mission and deliverance for him wasn’t immediate because he said he had a seal (tatoo). This guy had made a covenant without knowing he was making a covenant.
Can we just let the Holy Spirit be our seal that the world recognizes and sees the Glory of God?
Can we just honor our bodies as the temple of the Holy spirit, and love our bodies the way they were created, take care of them by eating healthy and fitness and not add or subtract to what God has already put?
Can we choose to live simple God Honouring lives without trying to copy or be influenced by what we see in the world?
Can we focus on what is important? There are more things that God desires us to focus on and do (the gospel) rather than focusing on these debatable matters? If you are busy serving God you have no time to think 🤔 “I think i should put an angel on my back to represent the Angels of God surrounding me” 😒
About honouring the dead, there are better ways to do that Guys. Scripture is clear in the epistles on honouring those who have fallen asleep.
I love your show Tim. Gimme a mic 🎙️ lets talk.
Well said Robbie 💪🏽💪🏽
Well said bruh
That's how I saw it, usually i say it's to Glorify God but deep down Ik it's because I think it looks cool and usually for people to look at, so I def get a conviction when I think of tats so I stopped, every now and then I try to look up videos to justify them but it's my flesh so I'm now realizing "Nope No Tats" regardless
I'm turning 18 in june and I want to get these 3 stars I drew up and I mean they don't really have any meaning besides they're the logo of my group I made with my friends. I think it's pretty cool and I don't really need them but again pretty cool. what you think is the right answer?
@@nubieOSS My advice, don’t do it. You are already pretty cool just the way you are. You reflect the image of God the creator and sustainer of all things. No other piece of creation as beautiful as creation is, shares that. You dont need to add on to that beauty.
I do not agree. Gal 3:26-29...In Christ Jesus, there's neither Jew nor Gentile we are all children of God through faith. 2 Tim. 4:3,4
Remember, the Jews were/are God's chosen people. However they weren't saved by default. Even the Jews needed to follow specific instructions in order to live in a manner pleasing before God. Following the laid out rules enabled God's chosen people to be separate, set apart from the Gentiles. Later on Gentiles were also given the opportunity to also be a part of the set-apart ones through repentance and being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Then going forward following the provided instructions that kept them on the righteous path.
We are called to be free, let us not use our freedom to indulge the flesh. Gal. 5:13
I disagree.
If you have to think twice about it, if your spirit is pondering about it. It's a sign its not of God. We have to be set apart. Leviticus 19:28 clearly states not to get markings
Why wouldn’t you think twice about a permanent marking lmao.
That’s not necessarily true.
Absolute nonsense. Some people’s conscious are weaker than others. It doesn’t make it sin.
Being set apart doesn’t mean no tattoos. Maybe for those with weaker faith…
@@jeffspruance9388 the Bible says your body is a temple and not to defile it. Tattos wasn’t apart of his original design for our body. Being set apart means to avoid things that look like the world , tattoos look like the world sorry if no one told you but it’s never too late to learn
Ppl manipulate the Bible to support their way of life. This is coming from someone with tattoos. If you are truly naive and unaware to what it means to mark your body, that’s one thing. But knowing and educating yourself and knowing your body is a temple. Why would you want to get one? Be disciplined! It’s not suppose to be easy. God will reward you for your faithfulness. The point is to fight your urges and the temptations of this world. Ultimately, take it to God in prayer. Don’t listen to every lil preacher you see online. They are leading you straight to hell.
You are already off base if you feel you are a Gentile and not an Israelite. But in terms of the Scriptures Yahusha clearly states in Matt 5:17 Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. What laws could He possibly be speaking about?? If you goal as a "Christian" is to follow Christ and he observed the Sabbath , sounds to me like you are doing your own thing to suit your needs. Same thing applies with tattoos, you are supposed to be set apart from what everyone else is doing. Now if you had tattoos already that's a different story. We have to stop this I feel like.......... the Scriptures are very clear about these things. 🖖🏾
It's inconsistent to use Leviticus 19:28 to speak against tattoos if the person gets haircuts. Verse 27 right before it says not to cut one's hair. If that's you, why the double standard?
I always listen to Tim but this message is contradicting honestly and yes he has a tattoo he would speak for himself because he has it and will try to benefit himself as so having it .the Bible speaks that we are not of this world as non believers have and do tatoo what will make us different if we also do tatoo with the same body that is the temple
"Marking yourself" in the bible was in reference to cutting oneself. In the time of Old Testament Israel (before Jews would sacrifice animals to cover their sins), Jews would have to cut themselves in order to see their sins forgiven. This later was adjusted to say, 'don't cut yourself, instead sacrifice animals'.
The God we see in the Old Testament and throughout the Bible is a God who meets people where they were at. We must understand, before it was comanded to cut oneself, people would sacrifice children. To go from sacrificing children -> cutting oneself -> circumcision -> sacrificing animals -> No sacrifice of animals or circumcision because Jesus' death covered it all - IS A BIG STEP! POSITIVE PROGRESS.
perfectly said. Conviction seems to be a difficult topic, but you made it very practical!
It’s okay to have tattoos 😂 you guys. I think y’all needa watch Prophet Lovy cause us Christians be worried about the wrong things and end up turning people away from christ
Christ turns followers of God away from christ, he called John Elijah, references Serpent symbolism, says he's lucifer in Rev 22 16 or at least compares himself to lucifer and even partook in rituals god forbids
Not only do I have tattoos but I have religious tattoos. I understand what certain people believe and that the body is the temple. I just decided to decorate it. 😁 God still loves me, and He loves you too
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@@valerie26066 Amen 🙌🏽
I have over 15+ tattoos. I love the way you phrased that! 💯💯💯💯💯
@@KingdomRenegadez111 Thank you so much
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Wow I've never disagreed with Pastor Ross. He's a brilliant mind and great in the ministry but the sabbath still stands and we are jews. Even if u don't want to identify through blood, Romans 2:29 kjv. Mark 2:27-28 kjv the sabbath was made for man. Jesus os Lord over the sabbath. The Sabbath has never changed. Exodus 31:17 the sabbath will be a sign between us and God forever. Forever doesn't have an end date. Exodus 20:8-11 still stands. March 7, 321 The Roman Catholic Church changed the day of worship. Google common knowledge. We are also the seed of Abraham Gal. 3:14-29. Also the stranger. Ezekiel 47:22 kjv God made a promise to the children of Isreal and the Egyptian stranger who were grafted in. We aren't just Gentiles catching the crumbs of Christianity, we're Gods chosen ppl too.
Tattoos are what makes some of us a testimony. The lord loves the unqualified because we show his power . The past is the past . We are forgiven when we accept Jesus Christ as our lord and savior
You show his grace.
I really needed this because the devil has been telling me I'm not a Child of God because of my tattoo. However, this along with some other things the Lord has been reminding me of have been proving the devil as a liar once again. Thank you for your wisdom!
Update:
When I initially wrote this comment, I agreed with what Pastor Ross was saying concerning tattoos. However, recently, the Holy Spirit has really been convicting me and working on my heart. During this time, He has been showing me that even if something was written in the Bible once it stands true even now because God Himself does not change. I know many Chrisitians are split on the issue of tattoos, but I thought I would share what the Holy Spirit has been teaching me!
He’s a liar remember that. You know who you are an serve!!! Do not let Satan tell you you aren’t tell Satan to go in Jesus name and he will FLEE!!!! My sheep know me from my voice!!!
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Well trust and believe God loves you just the same. Does he not love addicts with addiction wounds/scars? The abused and broken with their bruised eyes and broken bones ? I highly highly doubt THE GOD I SERVE is sending someone to hell over a butterfly tattoo. Or Even A Dragon...A Bart Simpson tattoo.... My God is a redeemer!! That's why all the tattoos that I have Represent , Respect and Show my connection To My Creator.
There are tattoo removal. If you worried about scars nothing compares to the scars Jesus has dying for your sins
Just Repent (Confess Your Sins By Asking For Forgiveness & Forsake Your Sins) , Just Don’t Add Any More Tattoos After. That Just Might Be The Spirit Convicting You , You’re Still A Child Of God , Just Know As a Child Of God You Have To Represent The Father.
I love when Tim brings out the Bible.
If you concerned about someone having tattoos it’s safe to say you are worried about the wrong thing. Smh
Well, the reason for tattoos have Always been about worship to other deity's, ceremonial rights, etc. That's the origin.
Today, people do it primarily for style and it looks good, and for various reasons.
As a Christian, one should always be concerned about things that are sinful and worldly, while marrying that to the fact that the end of day, everyone has a choice to make, and to Jehovah we will all stand and give account.
1st Corinthians 3:16-17 says
“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
“If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.” So I don’t just focus on tattoos I focus on everything because if we are fellow believers should I not be my brothers keeper…if we all have the same Father which is God The Father of all…and he has given us instructions on what not to do and I see my brother committing any transgression that is against The Father God why would I just allow him to continue in his sin I would want to be my brother’s keeper so yes I worry about my brethren in Christ and those that do not believe because we’ll be judged and I want to be a help out of love
The temple belongs to God not you. Your purchased at a price and you don't belong to you. Don't defile your temple that belongs to God or graffiti it. Common sense
Someone very dear to me has a few tattoos but one looks like a demon…not good
@@gundamt437tattoos in scripture are in reference to the worship of pagan gods, not the tattoos themselves. Circumcisions origins are also from pagan nations, yet God used it as the sign of His covenant with Abraham.
I agree with you brother and we can't judge Christians with tattoos and well we all gotta love them for respecting for what's in your heart
SO glad this was touched on. I had a discussion about this with my brother.
I didn’t know or even think about who scripture was referring too. I found out in my early 20’s what the word said So, I was already exposed to tattoos. We all have a past. Don’t let the tattoos take away from the message.
Yes but even though it was given to a specific people everyone NOW is one through Christ Jesus Galatians 3:28
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” We have to make sure we do not make distinctions that Christ Jesus has removed because anyone that believes are all ONE through Christ Jesus there is no more us and them anymore.
All spcripture are referring to you! This guy is so wrong its sad
The Basement is dope! (had to say that 💯) ... Doesn't the Ten Commandments include keeping the seventh-day Sabbath? I love this pod and Tim's wisdom, so just curious for clarity on his Sabbath day view since he spoke of it as a personal conviction/for the Jews (similar to tattoos texts), but then said the "confines are the Ten Commandments", which is clear on which day to keep as the Sabbath ... Genuinely seemed a bit contradictory there. Love yall and praying for the ministry!!
I second this question and that the Basement is dope….truly had the same thought and have been immensely blessed by the pod. He also unpacked Leviticus in terms of attraction vs action and seems to undercut that same word by this logic.
I agree. I love much of what Tim shares. He’s wrong on this though. The Sabbath dates back to Creation, not the Jews. Furthermore, gentiles have always been included in the promises of God and they had to adhere to the same instructions as Israel.
Exo 12:49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.
Sabbath doesn't have to be a particular day. Yes. God rested at creation because He needed to set an example for us and demonstrate the rest is important. Also, I believe that Sabbath was made compulsory for the Israelites because they just came out of slavery and resting was a foreign thing to them.
@@messmeerized Why would the Sabbath not be a particular day when He specifically made that day holy, "He blessed the seventh day and sanctified it" Gen. 2:1-3. This was before the distinction of Jew and Gentile even existed. Additionally, the whole point of forming the Hebrew nation of Israel was to show the Egyptians and Canaanites how to live, including observing the Sabbath.
When God does things, does He not do them intentionally and specifically? If He had meant for the Sabbath to be this vague concept of "rest" that modern Christianity accepts, He would not have enshrined it again in specific language on the Tablets of Stone.
*"Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy."*
Ok God, but why?
*"Six days you have to labor and do all your work."*
And?
*"But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God."*
We have Genesis 2 establishing a specific day on which God rested and which He sanctified and we have the 4th commandment which reminds not just the Hebrews but ALL who come to faith when and what the Lord's Day is, that the seventh day is a memorial to creation and HIS power as creator.
I have no idea why we seek to undermine the Word of God like this, it makes no sense. If you invalidate the specificity of the Sabbath, you can begin to invalidate a whole bunch of other Biblical doctrines. It's spiritual suicide.
Christ is the Sabbath, but since he hadn't come yet, it was celebrated on a day just like the other laws that were symbolic of Christ. But, now that he's come, we no longer have to maintain the Sabbath or any other feast days etc because Christ has fulfilled the laws and our faith in his finished work makes us law keepers. Jesus Christ is the Sabbath, he is our rest every day 💕
Hey Tim, I love your podcast, so this is not coming from a place of anger, but all love. I hate being that wierdo that copy-pastes a whole bunch of Bible verses in their comment but bear with me for a sec. Before there was a Jew, (Abraham) there was a sabbath, in Eden. Adam kept the sabbath, Adam was not a Jew. So even in a perfect world, the sabbath was kept with the intent to recognize and celebrate God as our Creator. " And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath" Mark 2:27 . It was made for huMANity not just for Jews.
This is what Hebrews 4:1-11 says (pertaining to the Sabbath) especially verses 9-11:
Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. 2 For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed.[a] 3 Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,
“So I declared on oath in my anger,
‘They shall never enter my rest.’”[b]
And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world. 4 For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.”[c] 5 And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”
6 Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience, 7 God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted:
“Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts.”
8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. 9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10 for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works,[e] just as God did from his. 11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.
So this clearly says that those who refuse to rest on the seventh day ( verse 4), which GOD HIMSELF requested as a sign (Ezekiel 20:20) between Him and His people that He is the creator of the universe (verse 3) and that those who disobey this command, as ancient Israel did in the past, will perish (verse 11).
Also, I believe the objective of God establishing Israel, His chosen people of the past, was not to just have a favorite clique on earth and create laws that just apply to them, but to use them to draw the whole world back unto Himself. He was literally revealing His heart to them, with the desire that they would share it with the rest of the world, but sadly they often, as we do today, got carried away with Idolatry. So these civil and ceremonial laws were established for order and peace amongst each other (civil) and simply were to be carried out as a perpetual reminder of their savior that would come and die for their sins in the future (ceremonial).
So since we are now all one in Christ seeing that "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female" ( Galatians 3:28), if Hebrews 4 says to rest on the seventh day I believe that is for ALL people not just the Jews.
Sorry for this lengthy post, I haven't commented under a video in years, usually just not my thing, but I am blessed by your podcast and I just wanted to give my TEN cents lol.
ALL LOVE😘😘
@Eaze T Amen to that, too!!
Amen Jo-Anna. May God continue to uncover the mysteries of the scriptures by the leading of the Holy Spirit to you and through you
Its also important to include the kind of body markings Leviticus is referring to which are not the same as tattoos in todays culture.
Tattoos are spiritual! Be mindful the word of Yah does not change, so what he says to one he says to ALL!
Regardless Jew or Gentile we all are held at the same standards! As a believer please do not mark up your body, Tattoos do not edify the body of Christ
Tattoos are not wrong but they are a gateway.
The devil can use anything you have to be careful
The times are worst
The Sabbath is not a 10 commandment or Jewish people thing. This is a Genesis 2 thing, even before Adam had a wife or family. There wasn’t any social construct as to who this day “belonged to”. God rested and sanctified the day. It’s personal to him. And in the departure from Egypt the Lord reminded them that as His people He has set apart time and space of refreshing/rest/celebration. He said it will be a sign between us and Him - that we are His people and He is our God. Yes God is clear! We just don’t wanna be, because , what I’m not sure. God’s law/word is immutable as His throne. We are in the beyond of God winking at our ignorance.
Beware of this man saying he has his own Sabbath day, that’s blasphemy! In creation God established the Sabbath day, the 7th dat which is Saturday. You can’t just pick whatever Sabbath you want, have mercy…
How come people argue so hard against the Sabbath Commandment, but not the other nine? It seems strange that the tradition of observing the 1st day is more important than the commandment to observe the 7th.
Because Jesus repeats 9 of the 10… the only one He doesn’t repeat is the Sabbath.
If my step-child moves into my house so that I now have my biological child and step-child living in the same home, you mean the house rules have to be separated based on who is who? There is something about choosing which of God's law pertains to which people (gentile, Christian, etc) that seems logical but out of order. That maybe how a democracy works but not a kingdom. If Jesus fulfilled the laws then He fulfilled it for all believers and not just Jews. And which Jews are we talking about? The original Jews? This pathway opens the door to so much heresy. Overall, God is not sending someone to hell because of a tattoo. [However] ...[n]ot everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!
Context is key. Sadly, we isolate a scripture and create doctrine and policies to fit our preferences. Study and seek Holy Spirit for understanding. Be well and blessed!
I feel like if that’s the case why are we following something that technically wasn’t written for non-Jewish people. I feel like there is no explanation behind it. Why does it only apply to certain people? Lol. I think people that says that gives people the okay to basically not follow scripture at all at this point. But explain to me if I’m over looking it…because that doesn’t make sense to me!
Once we were in grafted the Bible became applicable to us all.
@@yolandarichardson2797 this is true but he did have a people.. and by compare and contrast.. who fits
Honestly. He is incorrect in what he is saying in the video about who are Jews and who are not. Jesus was a black man who was an Israelite by blood which would mean that the Israelites were ALSO BLACK.. which would also mean that ALL of their descendants ARE BLACK. WE are the Israelites. The people of the book. This book is for us AND about us and even written by us. We are the chosen people of God.
I 100% agree with you!
I think it's important to note that even though it was for Jews initially and we've become apart of the same family, the Jews today still don't have to follow in strict obedience to the law because they are now under Christ as well; that is those Jews who believe in Jesus as God and the Son of God
Be careful not to be mislead nor mislead your listeners brother.
I soooo wanted this to be impactful & insightful…then the dudes voice changed when he started giving his opinion, not GODs word about how we feel about it…he, nor we is the point…It’s GODs. Tattoos are not keeping you from Heaven…but twisting the word of GOD can get that eternity in a hotter place.
Really saddened by this, think this dude has great content about so many things, but let’s not water down and leave it up to our own “feelings”.
The “interweb” really has impact in the world, let’s be more responsible about the Bible bbuudddiieess:)
🎯 2 Timothy 4:3-4 A time will come when people will not listen to accurate teachings. Instead, they will follow their own desires and surround themselves with teachers who tell them what they want to hear.
You will really know them by their fruits.
I just want to know why you not considering yourself an extension of Gods original children ie Jew. The Bible is talking to us, through and through. Full of wisdom and nothing should be disregarded, only met with Understanding and Wisdom from the Holy Spirit. We will all sin and fall short, the Bible is there for correction And guidance. ALL OF GOD’S WORD HAS A PURPOSE NOTHING SHOULD BE DISREGARDED 🙏🏾💯
You're 100% wrong Friday evening sunset to Saturday evening sun set is the true Sabbath for all! We cannot change God's word for our convenience.
This makes no sense lol. He basically said it's not applicable to if you choose for it not to be. That's crazy bro. If that's the case throw the whole Bible out. Why do you even have one. It's not applicable to you.
I just asked God yesterday to educate me about Christian’s getting tattoos or to give me a sign because I want to get one and u posted this. Thank you🙏🏼
Aww yay! Well definitely go with your heart and allow the Holy Spirit Guide you in the right direction as far as whether or not you should get a tattoo and if you do , what type of tattoo. It's not just about the design or the quote. It's about it's meaning to you personally and what YOU want it to represent when people see it. God Bless Boo
@@Br00klynBonni3 Exactly!
Hey there friend. Been a Christian my whole life and my left arm is fully sleeved, right arm basically a half across my abs and chest . When people see me they see how god pours thru me u feel me. I gotta story and when I share man I done had praise breaks wit people I done cried wit em and we have praised together. So I’m sayin that say is speak to god and listen to your heart 💪🏾
We are believers in Christ Jesus since we are believers…who do we mimic in this life on earth?…it’s Jesus Christ….
Philippians 2:5
“Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:”
We really should have a different attitude and way of approaching life because we are believers in Christ Jesus and since we confess this we should have an attitude and mindset to live how Jesus lived like he did when he was in the earth The Father God wants us to offer ourselves as living sacrifices daily laying aside our desires to follow his Son Jesus Christ.
@@ericmayo3434 god says follow him not your heart
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
The reason a lot of people will sadly never fully experience what Christ did for them is because we consistently insist on using religion (acts) to justify their salvation not realizing that we were saved by grace which means it's never really about the things we fixate on. The body of Christ is constantly mixing up a culture of faith with religion and Old Testament Jewish culture. Let's look at the scripture that talked about this, Leviticus 19:
Leviticus 19:28 Do not cut your bodies for the dead, and do not mark your skin with tattoos. I am the Lord.
Here's what is interesting. In that same chapter, here are some other things that were mentioned:
27 “Do not trim off the hair on your temples or trim your beards.
How about that. Does this mean that Christians should no longer trim their beards or cut their hair?
20 “If a man has sex with a slave girl whose freedom has never been purchased but who is committed to become another man’s wife, he must pay full compensation to her master.
Is this justification for us to have slaves today? Is that what God is telling us?
It's important to realize that a lot of the things that happened in the Old Testament set the stage for Jewish culture. The same God that nearly killed Moses for not circumcising his sons (Exodus 4:24-26), used Paul the Apostle to explain that it was no longer a requirement (Colossians 2:11-12). If we really are going to have this tattoo 'argument', then let's keep the same energy for everything 😅
The New Testament changed things because of Jesus guys! What was once religion and culture at the same time became purely - 'cultural'. This is why the Pharisees missed it. They were fixated on all the laws and rules of their culture and religion and ultimately got to a place where they felt their relationship with God was purely based on their actions and not by God's grace.
Now does this mean you should go and start tattooing yourself? Absolutely not. Does going to a buffet mean you should eat everything till you can't breathe? Not at all. But the point is, Jesus has done a lot more for you than you realize. The moment you let go of religion, start understanding how to properly read and study the word (understanding context, culture etc.) and fully embrace what he did on the cross for us and realize it has nothing to do with us - but everything to with him, your life will never be the same.
May Ephesians 1:17-19 be the reality of your life. Go read it ❤
But didn't the gentiles observe sabbath as well? Acts 13:42 and when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
So being adopted into the family means we don't need to follow the house rules? I don't understand that.
What I find crazy is when he said he follows the 10 Commandments, but doesn’t realize keeping the true Shabbat is part of the 10 commandments! I’m blown away that you folks continue following this dude!! 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Yeah Nawl brother you’re lost
Correction you do have a link. All are saved by Grace. But there are two groups... The Semitic ( Shem)and the Hemp( Ham).
The wisdom of God is in great quantity here.
I just tell people my Sabbath day is Jesus, because Jesus is a lifestyle 🤗 thanks for this video!!
What's the scripture for this?
Ur still suppose to follow the sabbath
During the tribulation period: "Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath."
Matthew 24:20 ESV
@@darinlewis1014 Jesus says he is lord of the Sabbath. Lord means he is master, ruler and authoritarian. Matthew 11:28 tells us Jesus will give us rest. The lord of the Sabbath gives us rest.
@@deecraig214 I agree that Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath being that He is the one who made it and that He gives us rest. But where in scripture is the Sabbath changed from the seventh day of the week to the first?🤔
For High priests of the Levites they weren’t allowed to mark their body because those people back then who were marking their bodies were scarring their body for when they killed someone in battle or if they put tattoos on for tribal rituals. It also says not to shave the sides of your head (no fades). The priestly levites had a strict code given to them
Nazarenes to but Jesus was like who cares I'm God right guys
@jordy2850, only txt on here that spoke to The Word !
He’s 100% correct. Christians believe in JESUS and the promise we abide by and root our faith in is the NEW TESTAMENT (covenant) with God. The Jewish/Israelites of the Old Testament KEPT dishonoring God and staying on track with the expectations GOD SET in Exodus. Because God didn’t wanna annihilate humanity as a WHOLE… he sent Jesus to Earth to die for us and THAT (and that alone) is the foundation of christianity. NOTHING ELSE🤷🏽♀️
What did I just watch gosh
Finally someone addresses the context of Jeremiah 29:11
You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the Lord.
Leviticus 19:28 ESV
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own,
1 Corinthians 6:19 ESV
“I have a Sabbath day but it don’t have to be on the same day as what you’re talking about. Now, the Ten Commandments go without saying.”
My Bible includes the 4th commandment with directives for Sabbath observance, including the specific day. So are you truly advocating observance of the Ten Commandments or that there is no Sabbath directive. Unfortunately it can’t be both.
People need to read the Bible for themselves.
Who are you speaking to lol
I was with you but I’m confused..Who do you believe are the Gentiles according to the Bible ?
So much false teaching 😂
Yes the Bible is written for Jews bc they are YAHWEHS people. However when a gentile decides to convert and inherit the promises made to the Jews they then abandon their gods and worship YAHWEH becoming themselves Jews. So to inherit the same promises made the (once gentile, now Jews ) must live in the same obedience and by the same commandments given to the Jews. For example the 10 commandments were given to the Jews but as a believer you become a Jew and follow YAHWEHS comments. ( All Of Them)
“In my Understanding of course “
The Old Testament was for a specific time and purpose. There are three types of laws in the Old Testament; the civil law, ceremonial law and moral law.
The ceremonial law outlined rules for things such as cleanliness, dietary restrictions, tattoos, hair, piercings and rules for establishing priests. The civil law dealt with rules on settling disputes amongst the people. The moral law dealt with God’s rules for moral character, specifically the things outlined in the 10 commandments. All of these issues regarding tattoos, piercings etc. applied to ceremonial law.
Christ died in the cross to atone for our sins. As of the New Testament we are no longer bound to civil and ceremonial laws. We ARE however bound by the moral law (10 commandments) under the new covenant of the New Testament.
When asked which if these moral laws were most important Jesus replied in Matthew 22:37:
“Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind…the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”
God is much more concerned about our moral character than whether we abide by over 600 laws which are no longer applicable (with the exception of the 10 commandments). It’s what’s in our heart vs. what’s on our body that God truly cares about.
I'm a Christian and I have tattoos. Does that mean Im not forgiven? I thought the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy of the holy spirit.
We always point out the sins that show if it even is a sin or not but what about the things that do not show. Listen to what the Holy Spirit speaks to you individually. Think about holiness in Gods eyes not your own. Take it all to God & humble yourself I mean really humble yourself in Gods eyes and if you can’t do it you may need to fast.
I do not completely agree with Pastor Tim's points (I still love and follow his teachings), however i do not believe tattoos are sins. So we're still on the same page i guess. But follow your heart FAM❤
This another itching ear podcast. Proverbs 21:2 KJV- Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the Lord pondereth the hearts.
I can take this logic and apply it too anything dude
Here’s the question to real Christian’s. Are tattoos a spiritual thing or physical thing. Are Christian’s focus on what’s physical or spiritual???? Same thing about circumcised! Is that physical or spiritual????? Then ask yourself this, the Bible makes it clear, the carnal mind thinks of things that are physical and do physical things. The spiritual mind does the opposite. In real Christianity that’s our focus. Those outside of Christ would have tattoos! This is why the Old Testament talks about it cause who had them? Those that are not people of God. God had started with them.
autofocus going crazy lol. Bible, Tim, Bible, Tim
I hear a lot of nonsense here! Seems to be more about personal feelings instead of what God says.
The Bible was written by God through HIS chosen hands. The Bible was written for every human being who lived, is living and who will live to come! We are all connected to everyone in this Bible because we all came from Adam and Eve! Seek Jesus, follow Jesus not man because as we all can hear man acts on feelings and not the word of GOD. Seek Jesus!
A devoted believer should not seek to get a tattoo
Tattoos have spiritual meaning they open portals
Bruh please can you provide scripture. Can you do that for me please?
@@bryonstevenson4814 John on Jesus twerking 3 16
@@Jesusdamannotgod Black people shall overcome ✊🏾
@@bryonstevenson4814 doubt it...the ones that succeeded don't care about liberation or community due to the fact you called them white for reading
@@Jesusdamannotgod Fam I was trolling,😂 I could care less, human race is only one race that's it.
If you got the “Tattoo” in the past and sin, "in good faith" that is, not knowing it was a sin !!! Than simply have a firm purpose of amendment to not do it again !!! But it is a sin in our faith,Knowing it's a sin and doing it anyway !!!! It is a sin for the person doing it, and the person who neglect to say so.
Leviticus 19:28 you shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the Dead, neither shall you make in yourselves any figures or marks. I am the Lord.
1) getting tattoos is sinful
2) tattoos go way back to Pagan times and Ways that we are to reject.
1 Corinthians 6:20
Romans 12:1
Ephesians 4:24
1 Peter 1:14
Are just a few, that wise and virtuous men show us that tattoos are sinful.
Christendom’s prohibition of tattoos, shows us that they are sinful.
St. Basil the Great condemns tattoos, showing us that they are sinful.
Tattoos are sinful because they are bodily mutilations against the Fifth Commandment.
God made man to be without sin and to be perfect in soul and body; tattoos are sins because they harm that perfection God intended.
Our bodies belong to God, and tattoos are sins against God’s rights over our bodies.
Tattoos are a sin of vanity and against the virtue of modesty (regardless of where they are on the body).
One sign that tattoos are sinful is that society accepted them only as part of a broader acceptance of evil beginning in the 1960s.
Tattoos are sinful because they are needless, long-term health hazards.
It is unreasonable and sinful to get a tattoo because people commonly regret doing so.
Tattoos are sinful because they are against our duty to look and act different from the barbarians around us.
Just as graffiti is against man's law so graffiti over your body is against God's law thinking that you can improve or do better thank God with graffiti
Tattoos are sinful because they are not Christ-like or Mary-like
The Demons of hell have access to everywhere and anything. Everything from Ouija boards, houses, children dolls, yes, and even animals !!! Anyone who has studied Exorcism knows, quite well, the battlefields and the hidden Trip wires that the Demons of Hell use. They hide in statues, in movies, in Tattoos, and even the ink used for the tattoos and the tattoo artist, who may be secretly a servant of Lucifer and could cast a spell on the Ink, and place a demonic spell permanently on your body !!! Who makes you far more prone to evil and demonic influences !!! And if the tattoo artist uses ink that has been consecrated to Lucifer, and tattoos, demonic figures on other people, then in fact he is a servant of Lucifer !!!
We can't live like folks did 3,000 years ago. If so, we'd be still living like them! You'll catch it in a minute...
Are we not Hebrews the children of Israel.
If you lead somebody to Jesus, you are supposed to leave that person with Jesus. Be there to love the person and remind the person to stay with Jesus, but that person should not be following you. It will make you vain. Puffed up. You might begin to quench the spirit in people by telling them that they are not free to believe all that God said, and bind them in the prison of “context”. Be it unto you according to your faith. If you do not believe God knows the plans he has for you because he was talking to somebody else when he said it, that is the limit of your faith. But please refrain from telling people that God is bound by context. It is as foolish as saying because Paul wrote to the Corinthians, what he said to the Corinthians does not apply to anybody but Corinthians. When we were adopted into the family of God we got more than the promises, we also got every Word that proceeded from the the mouth of God. Which is not grievous. Consider what I say, and Jesus give you understanding in all things.
If you listen to tim ross for spiritual guidance....you are LOST, VERY LOST
Man will always find a way or a reason to fit God's word in his lifestyle, even when scripture clearly tells you not to conform to this world. Today's generation is all about me, myself and what I look like, with my cool tattoos and piercings. They will justify the tattoo with such a cool story or it's a "Jesus" tattoo or any other reason to have had it done. Do you not believe God will so be pleased if you took His money, that came as a blessing to you, and donated it to a worthy charity or on a meal for a homeless person instead of a dumb tattoo or piercing, letting your pride getting in the way of another good deed?
I've never heard the Jew and Gentile conversation broken down like this before. Wow, this is now my homework assignment for the weekend to look deeper into this. Thank you!!!
I agree. Because every woman would be in violation of being outside on their cycles. It’s a simple case and point.
As long as you feel....?
I disagree with Tim on the Sabbath thing. The Sabbath was given to humanity during Adam and Eve’s time. It was not Israel thing since Israel was not crated yet. Saturday is the day. The Sunday we worship on was done in history. You can worship Jesus on Sunday but it isn’t the Sabbath. Sunday or “Sun’s day” was the worship of the deity by that name. Genesis 2:2-3.
JOYCE MEYER INTENTIONALLY MISREPRESENTS THE BIBLE AND IS A FALSE TEACHER. HERE IS THE TRUTH:
The reason for interpreting Isaiah 44:5 as symbolic rather than literal is primarily due to the broader context of the passage and the nature of prophetic language. In this passage, the emphasis is on the spiritual commitment of individuals to the Lord. The act of "writing on their hand, 'The Lord's'" is a metaphorical expression of this commitment. It's unlikely that it refers to actual tattooing or inscribing the name of the Lord on one's hand in a literal sense.
Prophetic and poetic language often employs symbolism and metaphors to convey deeper spiritual truths and concepts. Additionally, there is no specific historical or archaeological evidence to suggest that Israelites practiced literal tattooing of the name of the Lord on their hands.
While the exact interpretation may vary among scholars and theologians, the prevailing understanding is that Isaiah 44:5 is a symbolic expression of devotion rather than a literal practice of inscribing the name of the Lord on one's hand.
How do I know if I’m a Jew or not ?
We do not belong to ourselves we were bought by Jesus, through his blood, and by faith we are translated into the kingdom of God, Jew, Catholic, jehova witness, Christian exc, all religions who believe in the one and only God. Jesus have his life so that we may have salvation. To have salvation we must lay dow our life, pick up our cross and follow jesus
1. Whenever you read scripture, pray to make sure your flesh is not looking to manipulate the scriptures to justify your own selfish wants.
2. When you read scripture, make sure you read the verse in focus within its context and biblical hermeneutics. Then whether “it applies to you” will make more sense.
3. When you’ve ascertained whether the commandment given then was a temporary but necessary one, or an eternal one, then ask yourself the big question.
Do I have any worry, whatsoever, that the thing I want to do or acquire is sinning against Yeshua. If I have any a speck of doubt within me, if I don’t know scripturally to the T whether it’s a sin or not for me, don’t do it.
If I know it’s not a sin, clearly and scripturally. Now that I know scripturally and with the prayer that what I am about to is not sin, why am I truly getting it. Is it for good things of good report, glorifying God, or was I looking for a non sinful means to place this tattoo in a sinful manner that causes lust or was for pleasing others and nothing else.
Once you go through these, your soul should be at rest no matter what decision you come to. No matter the decision, the foundation must be, that you have absolute scriptural clarity for you, taking your flesh out of it, that you sin not against Yeshua. Then, it’s a matter of your heart and why you’re doing it. “For man looketh at the outward appearance, but God looketh at the heart”.
God bless whoever reads this, and I pray whatever decision you make brings peace and not guilt to your soul, more knowledgeable of the holy scriptures for yourself, and closer to Yeshua.
GOD will stop at nothing to bridge us back to Him. Some ink on your skin does not mean we're banished. Paul was a murderer and Jesus chose him for His purpose. So please...we're going to be ok. Keep close to GOD.
Gotta disagree Tim, about gentiles not being absorbed into the Jewish faith till the New Testament.
I got bible!
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Zipporah quickly circumcised her son with a sharp stone and touched Moses' feet with the foreskin, saying "Surely you are a husband of blood to me!" God then left Moses alone (Exodus 4:24-26). Gentile
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black people had been absorbed into the 12 tribes due to Taking Numbers 12:1 at face value, Moses has a wife who comes from African Kush. Talking about a gentile
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Kush is the father of Nimrod, a “mighty warrior” (Gen 10:8; 1 Chron 1:10).[16]
A Kushite is among David’s trusted warriors and brings him the news of Absalom’s death (2 Sam 18:21-32).
The Kushite king Tirhakah (=Taharka, a 25th dynasty Pharaoh), ostensibly in league with King Hezekiah of Judah, marches against the Assyrians (2 Kgs 19:9//Isa 37:9).
Ebed-Melech, the eunuch who saves Jeremiah from death in the cistern, is identified as a Kushite (Jer 38:6-14).
😅gentiles
We been about fam…
Blessings! With all do respect, you're discerning scripture wrong brother! Abram was not a Jew. There were no Jews than. He was a Hebrew. And, YOU are a Jew, or Israelite. It's not a ritual, feeling, or religious practice. It's a bloodline! You better read the whole KJV. And study to find thyself approved. 2 Timothy 2:15). Or, you're come up short.
Genesis 2:2-3, Hebrews 20:8-11, Ezekiel 20:19-20.
These are just a few. There are more verses concerning the sabbath. Clearly the Sabbath if important to The Most High, and not do what you want thing. There is only ONE Sabbath for our God.
Whatever religion you are there is only one true God, he is seated in heaven, and at his right hand is his Son Jesus, and the a Holy Spirit is here on earth convicting humanity of sin and drawing them close to Jesus. This is the only way to have salvation follow jesus, follow the guidance, direction and leading of the spirit, and you will not gratify the flesh, but you will live by the spirit
@roqkiernb has posted a brilliant comment on the issue of tattoos - therefore, I will not say much on it.
On the issue of the Sabbath, I disagree with the presenter because the Sabbath was established way before the Jews came into existence. "By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done." Genesis 2:2,3. Jesus also confirms this when he says in the New Testament “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.” Mark 2:27,28.
In relation to the quoted scripture of Acts 15:24-29, Paul in a couple of scriptures refers to basic spiritual teaching given to someone who does not yet believe as milk. In 1 Corinthians 3 Pual clearly states that he could not speak to the Corinthians as spiritual people "but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ." In verse 2 he states, "I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it..."
In Hebrews 5:14 Paul writes "But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil."
My conclusion is that, what requirements the council decided on for the gentiles was purely for the reason not burden them - it was milk, to introduce and establish their faith in the God of heaven, not that it was the ultimate and end of it all - just like we cannot give a new born baby an apple or a steak to eat as they do not yet have teeth to chew. However, as our relationship with the Lord grows and our faith in him becomes stronger - God will keep revealing to us in stages those things we need to adjust, remove, incorporate (the meat). Blessings!
Yeah man but we're Israel. So, listened to you preach on Leviticus and laws against crazy sex with family, but this law doesn't apply? Abraham was Israelite. We're grafted in. Say Jesus fulfilled the law, so we don't keep the feasts yet sex before marriage is still sin how does that work? I've benefited IMMENSELY from your podcast don't get me wrong you guys are awesome. And I'm quite the work in progress I don't mean to sound high and mighty .. but how can you say Jesus fulfilled the law yet you're keeping SOME by abstaining from sex before marriage. But don't keep Sabbath. God said it's a sign of covenant through ALL generations FOREVER. Jesus said if you love me keep my commands they're not burdensome.
Again I don't mean to sound like I know it all cause I certainly don't and I would love dialogue here
Thanks all
We must give up our sin! We must obey Jesus Christ commandments! Sinners don't have eternal life, but ex-sinners.
1 John 3:4-9 "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."
Ephesians 2:1-6 "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:"
1 John 1:5-7 "This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."
John 5:14 "Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee."
John 8:11 "She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."
John 9:31 "Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth."
John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."
John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."
John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
What sins can't you stop with the power of God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ?
Philippians 4:12-13 "I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."
Jesus was manifested to take away our sins!
1 John 3:5 "And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
We can lose our salvation!
John 15:2 "Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit."
1 Corinthians 9:27 "But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway."
2 Peter 2:19-22 "While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire."
Luke 13:24-28 "Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out."
Its so many opinions no real revelation!!! I always agree with Tim but in case he is on point .The Bible talk about work your own salvation out .seek the Holy Spirit but no u not going to hell for a tattoo ..Now those demons on your body repent cover them up!!!! God loves