The story of the Vet who hit a bong with no tolerance whatsoever…. It’s obvious why he had problems. Why would his girlfriend let him hit a bong knowing it will probably fuck him up? I feel that story shouldn’t have been included. That’s like telling a story of some person blacking out with alcohol with no tolerance after 3 shots.
getting called out by the New York Times…but I’m glad. I’ve been trying to quit using marijuana for months and I felt stupid for being so reliant on it when it’s “not addictive”
So much wrong with the reporting in this story it seems well below the standard of the NYT. The interviews with the woman who had her gall bladder removed and the soldier both ascribe all issues to marijuana, when at best they create more questions than they answer. We need more research into the long term use of cannabis, but putting out anecdotal evidence such as this, framed in this way, is not going to help.
They’re not going to cover every single case of why weed didn’t work out for everyone but it’s more of an awareness that weed isn’t this cure all holistic medicine that it’s sometimes cracked up to be.
Lots of cognitive dissonance in the comments. Marijuana's image as "safe" is based on research from over half a century ago, when THC content was orders of magnitude lower and CBD balanced out the THC. Ironic how the ban on federal research made it easier to legalize/popularize - ofc decriminalization is good, but the risks of it are real.
Marijuana use seems endemic now, especially by men. It’s hard to have a relationship with someone who is checked out all the time. I used to beg for him to stop but instead I just moved on. It’s sad. I’m not straight-edge I am open minded and believe once in a while is fine for lots of things but this drug is absolutely addictive. Just watching someone trying to quit (let alone tolerate their come down) is really hard. This is not like quitting coffee folks! Takes like two weeks to return to baseline.
Marihuana is more bounding as Coffee, or it has more recognizabel effects, but have you ever try to stop drinking Coffee? For me it's nearly Impossible and painfull; horrible Heatdaches and groce cravings. (sorry for my english, I'm not native speaking it)
I had trouble hearing this article over the abundant use of the incorrect term "marijuana" instead of the correct term cannabis. The word marijuana was coined by a government looking to villify cannabis by associating it with Mexican illegal immigrants and drug smugglers. I myself am not a user since I was in my 20s but am very familiar with its use. However I find it hilarious that the name of the disorder of overuse uses the name Cannabis but the presenter then uses the word Marijuana over and over. Please research your topic fully before presenting it as you appear ignorant in your reporting.
The yin/yang is that some may experience problems while others may find life saving, quality of life improvements. Compared to the disastrous effects of alcohol on the individual and society, marijuana is equivalent to aspirin.
@DS_P8 This is why there needs to be proper harm reduction measurements and regulations in place. One very good place to start is public awareness, especially among teenagers and young adults. Are they really aware of the potential harmful side effects that cannabis may have?
@@maggiepie8810 I think you're missing my point... alcohol is a disaster for the body, the person, and pretty much anyone within 10 feet. Alcohol's track record of death and destruction is overwhelming, so if you're going to be concerned about something, focus on alcohol.
@DS_P8 I agree that alcohol, in general, is more outright destructive. There's really no end to the havoc that alcohol is able to wreak on people's lives. It also has no medical use other than as a disinfectant and solvent. With that said, I still think that '...but alcohol is worse' is a poor excuse not to take the potential adverse effects of cannabis seriously.
Like any drug, marijuana can be abused and it can make people lazy and apathetic. It’s difficult to control use and it can cause problems. Psychological dependence. It can skew your perception and make difficult tasks more challenging. It’s better to keep the mind sharp and only indulge on special occasions, if you must. Just be aware of all the pitfalls. Weed today is not the same as 80’s era weed.
I want to know more about this woman she interviewed. She was having that much physical pain, talked to Drs, had many tests, removed her gallbladder, and she was still taking the edibles? Hard to believe a Dr did not suggest to stop taking everything and find her baseline. Any drug has side effects. I feel like you could have started with the premis that most of the professionals you talked to suggest we should legalize cannabis, instead of till the end of this 30 min audio. Many people who get scared off during their listening will not hear that part and will leave only "knowing" these scary stories.
I can believe a doctor would not think of the medication because a similar incident happened to my mom. The drug in question was not marijuana, but her blood pressure medication. She had taken it regularly for at least several years before she had an adverse reaction that led to her face swelling up like a balloon. The first time it happened, the doctors thought it was an allergic reaction to the food she was eating and they were able to get the swelling down. It would occur two more times before they took a look at the medication and realized one of the drugs had a slight probability of causing a severe allergic reaction and that the probability increased the longer you were on the drug. They switched her medication around and so far, she has not had that kind of allergic reaction happen to her again.
Cannabis should be absolutely just as legal and easy to obtain anywhere as alcohol currently is. No exceptions. It's so easy: As legal and easy to obtain/use as alcohol currently is. Why hold relatively benign, often healing cannabis to any sort of irrational, stricter double standard than perfectly legal alcohol?
That’s not the point. The point is that, at this rate, it is likely to become as easy to obtain as alcohol in the near future and it is being lionized as a miracle drug, but in reality, it has consequences and addictive tendencies just like any drug. Also, big businesses will use it to exploit people just like they have with alcohol and cigarettes.
@@ZackMestergood I’d rather people be abusing the shit out of cannabis than I would alcohol. I’d rather than be a million cannabis addicts than a single cannabis user in prison.
The story of the Vet who hit a bong with no tolerance whatsoever…. It’s obvious why he had problems. Why would his girlfriend let him hit a bong knowing it will probably fuck him up? She should’ve had him start small with one small puff of a joint. Irresponsible all around, if you see him acting up, why would you not follow him when you see him grabbing the gun? Or why wouldn’t you safely store your gun in a safe? I feel that story shouldn’t have been included. That’s like telling a story of some person blacking out with alcohol with no tolerance after 3-5 shots.
I think perhaps what you're missing is that there're 350 million people in the USA alone and roughly 7 billion world wide. To assume that anyone else at all would act a certain way, based on your singular, very anecdotal experience appears extremely ignorant of the diversity in populace. Just because you think the fella's girlfriend should've seen his reaction coming doesn't mean she actually should've. She isn't you, she has an entire other life of experience and what the article was telling you was the tiniest shred of her existence. Reports and articles like this completely control the narrative within themselves. It's their job as opinion pieces to control how you view the topics. So if the writers want you to think of the girlfriend as just like you, they'll work to do that but it doesn't mean she's anything like you it just just means the writers want you to relate to their points become more driven.
I don't know, I have seen some pretty crazy things happen to people just taking Delta 8. I think that some people just can have very bad reactions and need to be aware. Just like most OTC drugs are fine 9/10 times but can have dangerous side effects for some people.
@@McbrideStudios I’m Old I guess. 64 smoked back in the 70’s late seventy’s. Anyway. It’s definitely not the same as then. Never seen someone trip like that just on the weaker strains. But I had a hit off a joint once that nearly caused me to cough up my underwear. lol. Then I tripped a bit for the rest of the night. I was told someone laced it. I would think with the bath salt crap out there that was the problem. Keep your head down, tank full and a go bag and good luck God Bless you and yours.
Yea what’s more harmful someone developing an addiction to cannabis? Or someone getting caught with a small amount of cannabis and loses years of their life in prison? I’d say in 99% of the situations the laws surrounding cannabis have been more harmful than the substance itself.
The problem with cannabis legalisation isn't the legalisation of itself but the over-commercialisation, little to no proper regulation, and lack of harm reduction. How legalisation is being implemented in the US is scary to me, and I'm someone who's very much pro legalisation.
@@lawrencetchen Which is pretty wild if you ask me. I also feel as if people are very much in two camps on legalisation. Either you're against, or your pro absolutely everything, including stoned driving. XD
I think awareness needs to be spread more and more… depression does hit and the abuse can be subtle but it does happen, it took me a long time to realized this.
As a user for about a decade, heavier after 2020, i haven't seen ant side effects, but this was important just to hear about how little research has gone into all this stuff. Good to know. Thanks
It isn’t the marijuana, it’s the capitalism that intrudes on our collective experience-high or not. I’ve been doing the research on myself for the past year.
@@autumnrain7626 marijuana can do excellent things when one is in a relaxed headspace. Capitalism (aka legalized theft, especially of time-for relaxing and recreation) creates a socioeconomic situation that is antithetical to said headspace. Taking marijuana while anxious is a terrible experience, and only worsens the anxiety. So the weekend (shout out to the anarchists who fought and died so you could have breaks from labor) is about the only time to recreate with THC-that’s assuming you don’t have responsibilities like childcare, or housework (required for preparing for the work regime upheld, again, by capitalism, and the state). I’ll wait for you to either respond in earnest, or give me some cockamamie reply.
Thank you for this important discussion. After several years of marijuana use during adolescence, a family member became addicted and ended up with severe psychosis. We had no idea it could cause such incredible harm.
i just looked it up and i meet 8 of the 11 criteria for cannabis use disorder. i'm not surprised. i've been slowly tapering off for the last couple months, following the advise of my psychiatrist. i'm glad the stuff is legal, but i wish i'd known about how serious the withdrawal symptoms can be. like, don't get me wrong, it's nothing compared to say, opioid withdrawal, but i have friends who were shocked to learn you can even get marijuana withdrawal at all. it's definitely real, and it's not fun.
10:20 Well yeah, you can also be addicted to caffeine, caffeine addiction presents differently than any other addiction and also isn't taken as seriously as opioid addiction and shouldn't be. Even though it's a real addiction, the symptoms and cost/benefit trade offs are in an entirely different class than opioids. The same is true of Cannabis. Cannabis addiction isn't anything like opioid addiction. People who deny that you can be addicted to Cannabis mostly don't want to see it smeared with the publics at best nascent and at worst completely wrong headed understanding of addiction. We don't need the police arresting people and destroying lives over this.
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Legalize cannabis federally now. What's legal to possess and consume in over half of the populated areas of The United States should not make you a criminal in states still being governed by woefully ignorant prohibitionist politicians. Cannabis consumers in all states deserve and demand equal rights and protections under our laws that are currently afforded to the drinkers of far more harmful, dangerous and deadly, yet perfectly legal, widely accepted, endlessly advertised and even glorified as an All American pastime, alcohol. Plain and simple!
Every major poll in the nation shows that The Vast Majority of Americans favor The Legalization of Cannabis Nationwide! "Americans Favor Legalizing Cannabis Support surged 10 percentage points in past year"" -Gallup Poll "A solid majority of voters nationwide favor legalizing and regulating cannabis similar to the way alcohol and tobacco cigarettes are currently regulated. Most also dont believe it should be a crime for people to smoke cannabis in the privacy of their own homes" -Rasmussen Poll "Americans favor making cannabis legal for adults, according to the findings of a CNN/ORC International survey released late Monday. The percentage is the highest ever reported by the survey, which has been tracking public opinion on the issue since 1973, and marks a 12 percentage point jump in support since the last time pollsters posed the question in 2012" -CNN Poll
Had a friend who was a regular smoker and got CHS. We were on a trip out of state and she bought some stuff from a dispensary. Don't think she was used to the potency. Started vomiting for days.
The story of the Vet who hit a bong with no tolerance whatsoever…. It’s obvious why he had problems.
Why would his girlfriend let him hit a bong knowing it will probably fuck him up?
I feel that story shouldn’t have been included. That’s like telling a story of some person blacking out with alcohol with no tolerance after 3 shots.
getting called out by the New York Times…but I’m glad. I’ve been trying to quit using marijuana for months and I felt stupid for being so reliant on it when it’s “not addictive”
That weed is never addictive to, is a myth. It REALLY doesn't matter to people struggling with it if it's 'less addictive on alcohol' on paper.
Relying on marijuana is a problem. Your problem!
I dealt with it also, it was a struggle but once you get through it life is much better. Hang in there!
@@Dvarden
So much wrong with the reporting in this story it seems well below the standard of the NYT. The interviews with the woman who had her gall bladder removed and the soldier both ascribe all issues to marijuana, when at best they create more questions than they answer.
We need more research into the long term use of cannabis, but putting out anecdotal evidence such as this, framed in this way, is not going to help.
They’re not going to cover every single case of why weed didn’t work out for everyone but it’s more of an awareness that weed isn’t this cure all holistic medicine that it’s sometimes cracked up to be.
Lots of cognitive dissonance in the comments. Marijuana's image as "safe" is based on research from over half a century ago, when THC content was orders of magnitude lower and CBD balanced out the THC. Ironic how the ban on federal research made it easier to legalize/popularize - ofc decriminalization is good, but the risks of it are real.
Anything overconsumed is bad
"There must be moderation in all things."
As a daily medical Marijuana user, I'm excited for more research and information.
Marijuana use seems endemic now, especially by men. It’s hard to have a relationship with someone who is checked out all the time. I used to beg for him to stop but instead I just moved on. It’s sad. I’m not straight-edge I am open minded and believe once in a while is fine for lots of things but this drug is absolutely addictive. Just watching someone trying to quit (let alone tolerate their come down) is really hard. This is not like quitting coffee folks! Takes like two weeks to return to baseline.
Marihuana is more bounding as Coffee, or it has more recognizabel effects, but have you ever try to stop drinking Coffee? For me it's nearly Impossible and painfull; horrible Heatdaches and groce cravings. (sorry for my english, I'm not native speaking it)
Interesting. My partner and I have both sworn quitting weed is much easier than quitting coffee.
Someone will always have a problem but like I said he got something laced.
I had trouble hearing this article over the abundant use of the incorrect term "marijuana" instead of the correct term cannabis. The word marijuana was coined by a government looking to villify cannabis by associating it with Mexican illegal immigrants and drug smugglers. I myself am not a user since I was in my 20s but am very familiar with its use. However I find it hilarious that the name of the disorder of overuse uses the name Cannabis but the presenter then uses the word Marijuana over and over. Please research your topic fully before presenting it as you appear ignorant in your reporting.
I've had tons of issues with it, I think people should approach it with care.
The yin/yang is that some may experience problems while others may find life saving, quality of life improvements. Compared to the disastrous effects of alcohol on the individual and society, marijuana is equivalent to aspirin.
@DS_P8 This is why there needs to be proper harm reduction measurements and regulations in place. One very good place to start is public awareness, especially among teenagers and young adults. Are they really aware of the potential harmful side effects that cannabis may have?
@@maggiepie8810 I think you're missing my point... alcohol is a disaster for the body, the person, and pretty much anyone within 10 feet. Alcohol's track record of death and destruction is overwhelming, so if you're going to be concerned about something, focus on alcohol.
@DS_P8 I agree that alcohol, in general, is more outright destructive. There's really no end to the havoc that alcohol is able to wreak on people's lives. It also has no medical use other than as a disinfectant and solvent.
With that said, I still think that '...but alcohol is worse' is a poor excuse not to take the potential adverse effects of cannabis seriously.
Like any drug, marijuana can be abused and it can make people lazy and apathetic. It’s difficult to control use and it can cause problems. Psychological dependence. It can skew your perception and make difficult tasks more challenging. It’s better to keep the mind sharp and only indulge on special occasions, if you must. Just be aware of all the pitfalls. Weed today is not the same as 80’s era weed.
I want to know more about this woman she interviewed. She was having that much physical pain, talked to Drs, had many tests, removed her gallbladder, and she was still taking the edibles? Hard to believe a Dr did not suggest to stop taking everything and find her baseline. Any drug has side effects. I feel like you could have started with the premis that most of the professionals you talked to suggest we should legalize cannabis, instead of till the end of this 30 min audio. Many people who get scared off during their listening will not hear that part and will leave only "knowing" these scary stories.
I can believe a doctor would not think of the medication because a similar incident happened to my mom. The drug in question was not marijuana, but her blood pressure medication. She had taken it regularly for at least several years before she had an adverse reaction that led to her face swelling up like a balloon. The first time it happened, the doctors thought it was an allergic reaction to the food she was eating and they were able to get the swelling down. It would occur two more times before they took a look at the medication and realized one of the drugs had a slight probability of causing a severe allergic reaction and that the probability increased the longer you were on the drug. They switched her medication around and so far, she has not had that kind of allergic reaction happen to her again.
Cannabis should be absolutely just as legal and easy to obtain anywhere as alcohol currently is. No exceptions. It's so easy: As legal and easy to obtain/use as alcohol currently is. Why hold relatively benign, often healing cannabis to any sort of irrational, stricter double standard than perfectly legal alcohol?
That’s not the point. The point is that, at this rate, it is likely to become as easy to obtain as alcohol in the near future and it is being lionized as a miracle drug, but in reality, it has consequences and addictive tendencies just like any drug. Also, big businesses will use it to exploit people just like they have with alcohol and cigarettes.
@@ZackMestergood I’d rather people be abusing the shit out of cannabis than I would alcohol. I’d rather than be a million cannabis addicts than a single cannabis user in prison.
The story of the Vet who hit a bong with no tolerance whatsoever…. It’s obvious why he had problems.
Why would his girlfriend let him hit a bong knowing it will probably fuck him up? She should’ve had him start small with one small puff of a joint.
Irresponsible all around, if you see him acting up, why would you not follow him when you see him grabbing the gun? Or why wouldn’t you safely store your gun in a safe?
I feel that story shouldn’t have been included. That’s like telling a story of some person blacking out with alcohol with no tolerance after 3-5 shots.
I think perhaps what you're missing is that there're 350 million people in the USA alone and roughly 7 billion world wide. To assume that anyone else at all would act a certain way, based on your singular, very anecdotal experience appears extremely ignorant of the diversity in populace.
Just because you think the fella's girlfriend should've seen his reaction coming doesn't mean she actually should've. She isn't you, she has an entire other life of experience and what the article was telling you was the tiniest shred of her existence.
Reports and articles like this completely control the narrative within themselves. It's their job as opinion pieces to control how you view the topics. So if the writers want you to think of the girlfriend as just like you, they'll work to do that but it doesn't mean she's anything like you it just just means the writers want you to relate to their points become more driven.
Compared to alcohol?
I’d be willing to bet that Alcohol takes more lives in a day than Cannabis has in its entire existence on this planet.
Weed is technically less addictive than alcohol on paper, but it doesn't mean that it's non-addictive, either.
The weed that guy smoked likely was laced with something.
I don't know, I have seen some pretty crazy things happen to people just taking Delta 8. I think that some people just can have very bad reactions and need to be aware. Just like most OTC drugs are fine 9/10 times but can have dangerous side effects for some people.
@@McbrideStudios I’m Old I guess. 64 smoked back in the 70’s late seventy’s. Anyway. It’s definitely not the same as then. Never seen someone trip like that just on the weaker strains. But I had a hit off a joint once that nearly caused me to cough up my underwear. lol. Then I tripped a bit for the rest of the night. I was told someone laced it. I would think with the bath salt crap out there that was the problem.
Keep your head down, tank full and a go bag and good luck God Bless you and yours.
Yea what’s more harmful someone developing an addiction to cannabis? Or someone getting caught with a small amount of cannabis and loses years of their life in prison? I’d say in 99% of the situations the laws surrounding cannabis have been more harmful than the substance itself.
Classic stoner move: starts using THC, feels sick, gets gallbladder removed, THEN quits weed. smh nyt
The problem with cannabis legalisation isn't the legalisation of itself but the over-commercialisation, little to no proper regulation, and lack of harm reduction. How legalisation is being implemented in the US is scary to me, and I'm someone who's very much pro legalisation.
Precisely this. Our state legislatures have been absent in this since legalization
@@lawrencetchen Which is pretty wild if you ask me. I also feel as if people are very much in two camps on legalisation. Either you're against, or your pro absolutely everything, including stoned driving. XD
I think awareness needs to be spread more and more… depression does hit and the abuse can be subtle but it does happen, it took me a long time to realized this.
Weed addiction is not necessarily even more subtle than other forms of substance abuse, just a bit different.
I can’t remember what I came here to say…
As a user for about a decade, heavier after 2020, i haven't seen ant side effects, but this was important just to hear about how little research has gone into all this stuff. Good to know. Thanks
You don’t see them but others may experience them.
It isn’t the marijuana, it’s the capitalism that intrudes on our collective experience-high or not. I’ve been doing the research on myself for the past year.
Care to elaborate on that at all?
@@autumnrain7626 marijuana can do excellent things when one is in a relaxed headspace. Capitalism (aka legalized theft, especially of time-for relaxing and recreation) creates a socioeconomic situation that is antithetical to said headspace. Taking marijuana while anxious is a terrible experience, and only worsens the anxiety. So the weekend (shout out to the anarchists who fought and died so you could have breaks from labor) is about the only time to recreate with THC-that’s assuming you don’t have responsibilities like childcare, or housework (required for preparing for the work regime upheld, again, by capitalism, and the state). I’ll wait for you to either respond in earnest, or give me some cockamamie reply.
@@autumnrain7626companies begin to target and exploit consumers like they did with the cigarette industry
Opioids fentanyl...
Thank you for this important discussion. After several years of marijuana use during adolescence, a family member became addicted and ended up with severe psychosis. We had no idea it could cause such incredible harm.
i just looked it up and i meet 8 of the 11 criteria for cannabis use disorder. i'm not surprised. i've been slowly tapering off for the last couple months, following the advise of my psychiatrist. i'm glad the stuff is legal, but i wish i'd known about how serious the withdrawal symptoms can be. like, don't get me wrong, it's nothing compared to say, opioid withdrawal, but i have friends who were shocked to learn you can even get marijuana withdrawal at all. it's definitely real, and it's not fun.
10:20 Well yeah, you can also be addicted to caffeine, caffeine addiction presents differently than any other addiction and also isn't taken as seriously as opioid addiction and shouldn't be. Even though it's a real addiction, the symptoms and cost/benefit trade offs are in an entirely different class than opioids. The same is true of Cannabis. Cannabis addiction isn't anything like opioid addiction. People who deny that you can be addicted to Cannabis mostly don't want to see it smeared with the publics at best nascent and at worst completely wrong headed understanding of addiction.
We don't need the police arresting people and destroying lives over this.
These NYT podcasts are terrible.
Ok
The lack of regulation is a problem. Why is the product so different when I get the same product from the same company? It's scary.
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Excuse me for real?,how is that
possible I have struggling
financially, how was that possible?
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Legalize cannabis federally now. What's legal to possess and consume in over half of the populated areas of The United States should not make you a criminal in states still being governed by woefully ignorant prohibitionist politicians. Cannabis consumers in all states deserve and demand equal rights and protections under our laws that are currently afforded to the drinkers of far more harmful, dangerous and deadly, yet perfectly legal, widely accepted, endlessly advertised and even glorified as an All American pastime, alcohol. Plain and simple!
Imagine having a medical reaction and getting advice from the dispensary rather than the doctor that prescribed it.
Every major poll in the nation shows that The Vast Majority of Americans favor The Legalization of Cannabis Nationwide!
"Americans Favor Legalizing Cannabis Support surged 10 percentage points in past year""
-Gallup Poll
"A solid majority of voters nationwide favor legalizing and regulating cannabis similar to the way alcohol and tobacco cigarettes are currently regulated. Most also dont believe it should be a crime for people to smoke cannabis in the privacy of their own homes"
-Rasmussen Poll
"Americans favor making cannabis legal for adults, according to the findings of a CNN/ORC International survey released late Monday. The percentage is the highest ever reported by the survey, which has been tracking public opinion on the issue since 1973, and marks a 12 percentage point jump in support since the last time pollsters posed the question in 2012"
-CNN Poll
Had a friend who was a regular smoker and got CHS. We were on a trip out of state and she bought some stuff from a dispensary. Don't think she was used to the potency. Started vomiting for days.
Glad to hear this subject! I recently learned about it myself and was shocked that it wasn't more well known.
Bullshit.
"Stretching *back* to the 1990s"? Way to make a Gen Xer feel old.