Interesting discussienota. I consider small locomotives only 0-4-0, 0-6-0 or maximum 2-6-0. I think the size of the layout determines the size of the locomotives that can run on it. My current layout is radius 1, my next layout will be radius zero (the so called industrial curve) and radius 1. I have the occasionel 2-6-0 and even a few CoCo on it, but most of my locomotives are really small. And so are my coaches (lots of 4-wheel and shortened 8-wheel) and wagons. Great video. Cheers 🙋♂️
My fleet is varied but tends to run on the small side. Mainly switchers such as 3 custom built tank locos, 4-4-0's a atlantic and a range of moguls and consols. There are a few larger locos but this is very limited. Mixed service Pacifics make up almost the entire group with a 2-10-2 and a Reading T1 as the outliers.. with my layout being focused on branch line railroading and branches on branches. I have sections where small indistrial operations and various yards meet needing switchers. But enough mainline presence for larger power. It adds more operations interesting and allows for a fleet that is quite different
I prefer both, but I think anything from an 0-4-0 to a 2-8-2 is the best size for most modelers. When you start using longer wheelbase locomotives like super-powered engines (with the exceptions of Pacifics and Hudsons), duplexes, and large articulateds, you begin to encounter space and room issues.
Logically speaking, i should be getting smaller locomotives. My smallest (sofar) is the Athearn 2-8-0. But at the end of the day. If i see a steam locomotive of any size, an unhealthy amount of dopamine encourages me to make very poor financial decisions
I love what I call "mid sized" locomotives (4-6-0's, 4-6-2's(varies based on country and fame), 2-8-0's, & 2-8-2's) While in general I avoid 4-6-2's like the plague, they're a good size for a general duty engine. I'm especially fond of both 4-6-0's, and 2-8-2's. 4-6-0's make good local passenger engines, while 2-8-2's make good freight engines. Since in HO, or N we aint going for exact lengths of trains, I find both of these engines good for what they are. Large engines are cool, but every manufacture seems to make the same 3 or 4 engines every few years(most of these 3-4 are all from Union Pacific), so I only got one(a GS4), and smaller engines, especially older ones are SUPER sencitive to grades, train length, and bad connections(I only have 1 of those, a USRA 0-6-0). Also, MacArthur abandoned his troops when Japan invaded the Philippines, and wanted to start ww3 by nuking modern day North Korea....the hell you mean "MacArthur"?
The 2-8-2 was called the MacArthur during wwii, and a few years following after the attack of Pearl Harbor in 1941. Mikado is a Japanese word. The Japanese Empire blew up Pearl Harbor. So, in order to stay patriotic against the enemy at the time, railroaders and some companies named their 2-8-2s after the most beautiful man alive. Douglas MacArthur.
Also, MacArthur was ordered by President Roosevelt to evacuate due to the rapid advance of the Japanese Empire in early 1942. He wanted to fight, but the president wanted him to roll to a safer location because the Bataan Peninsula and Corregidor were already under control of Japan due to their advance. And if the best General in the Pacific got taken prisoner, that would not be good for the US in the Pacific Theater. So as you mostlikely know MacArthur said, "I will return." And in October 1944 he said, "People of the Philippines, I have returned." Afterward the Battle of the Philippine Sea occurs, The US won, and even though Jonathan Wranwright and his men were left by 1942, most survived the prison camp. Both Wranwright and MacArthur even received the Metal of Honor due to their defense against an overwhelming large enemy. So no MacArthur didn't abandon anyone, it was Roosevelt with strategic thinking, unfortunately war is a game that loses anyone under difficult circumstances. But I see pulling out MacArthur was a smart move there.
I would like to add that during the Korean War, it is not clear in the slightest that nukes would cause wwiii. It would have a higher chance to show that while deadly, a nuke wouldn't be as effective as most would think it should be. So you go frolic in that Alternate Universe, and I'll stay here. Also, The Cuban Missile Crisis was the closest that war would cause another global conflict.
Personally smaller engines I am a British N scale user and a 4F Fowler tender engine 0-6-0 id a meduim engine in British standards We have 4 catergory Small tank engine Large tank engine Small tender engine Large tender engine for example . A 0-4-0 pug is small But a 4MT is large A Fowler 4F is small A Princess is large you get it ? . Personally I prefer all forms in British types as for an scale all of it is tiny … However I prefer smaller tender engines . Or medium sized engines as there called . As they yes are small as are most 0-6-0 engines and simple for the most part they can be strong and can pull quite a bit . However are small enough to fit round a tight radius and can be used for shunting There the everything engine ! Go anywhere and do anything , hence why I love them . 0-6-0 tender engines 2-6-0 tender engines 4-4-0 tender engines They all fit to the catergory of medium engines . Like my beloved 4F fowler . But any engine is good if it works well . But personally I enjoy the medium engines more . Out of any of the others that Is
I mainly use small locomotives, but I do have some large locomotives. Of the large locomotives, I have one 2-8-2 (Southern Railway 4501), two 2-8-0s (Southern 630 and 722), three 4-6-2s (ACL 1525, PRR 5448, and Southern 1396), one 4-8-2 (Southern 1491, ex-Saluda Grade), and one 4-6-4 (NYC J3a 5438). I am looking into getting another 2-8-2 MacArthur for my railroad. It will be painted as BL&G number 11, and I will paint it up in the same scheme as my 2-10-0s.
I personally love smaller engines. For me they are personally cheaper. But I do own bigger engines like a 2-10-2 and 4-4-2. I do plan on getting a 2-8-2 at some point though
This is a pretty good video! The only issue i have is there are some points in the video where i can barely hear you due to the music, But other than that great job!
I'm a medium is premium kind of guy. Give me my engines that aren't super small, but are by no means giants. So I'd probably land in the small camp on this one. I love looking at challengers and bull mooses, but what I have is way too small for them. That and I run smaller trains, typically 3-4 cars, depending on length, but a mixed goods train can be 5-7 cars long. Honestly I'll get any engine I think looks interesting, but I'd rather run the medium sized ones.
Supply and demand. Want more 4-4-0's, convince/lobby every manufacture to stop making so many of the famous locomotives since they hardy sell relative to other engines.
Personally, larger locomotives are better pullers, however maintenance (yes also in Lego) and cost, outweighs the pros. so I am going to have to agree with you, the small boi's win. (also they are cute).
Interesting POV.. I am of the opposite mind set. Since mine only ever sit and hardly run, I open them up when needed, which means that my maintenance cost is lower. Articulated engines though I avoid because they only come in 3 varieties...unless someone can make Black Hills Central 108 & 110, I don't see myself ever owning any articulated steam engines 'till late next year. And to be frank my first one will probably be after I get a 2-10-4..or whichever one of those decapod's is Madame Queen.
@@BattleshipOrion even more interesting. I am more of a guy who runs the choo choos rather than let them be shelf queens. (i dont like shelf queens). but totally off topic, Merry Christmas!
@@fletchingfreight I don't like shelf queens either, unless they are part of my ship collection. Dispite evry excuse the community can think up of otherwise, I simply cant run my engines...that and due to selling off most of my previous collection, I kind a have to rebuild my locomotive fleet. Modern diesels are not exactly my thing.
Another great job (Battle) that had to take you hours to finish. With that being said… 😁 Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 🎅 Happy New Year 🎈 Ps.. I miss our little buddy, keeping us up to date on, you guessed “TRAINS” 🚂🚋🚋🚃🚃🚋🚃🚋. 💯❤️🌹
Man said 2-8-2 MacArthur, I am very proud.
@@Burlington_Route :D
Interesting discussienota. I consider small locomotives only 0-4-0, 0-6-0 or maximum 2-6-0. I think the size of the layout determines the size of the locomotives that can run on it. My current layout is radius 1, my next layout will be radius zero (the so called industrial curve) and radius 1. I have the occasionel 2-6-0 and even a few CoCo on it, but most of my locomotives are really small. And so are my coaches (lots of 4-wheel and shortened 8-wheel) and wagons. Great video. Cheers 🙋♂️
I love that dinky lil 0-4-0 so damn much
@ThatForneyFoamerFromDixie thank you it was a custom I made.
My fleet is varied but tends to run on the small side. Mainly switchers such as 3 custom built tank locos, 4-4-0's a atlantic and a range of moguls and consols. There are a few larger locos but this is very limited. Mixed service Pacifics make up almost the entire group with a 2-10-2 and a Reading T1 as the outliers.. with my layout being focused on branch line railroading and branches on branches. I have sections where small indistrial operations and various yards meet needing switchers. But enough mainline presence for larger power. It adds more operations interesting and allows for a fleet that is quite different
I prefer both, but I think anything from an 0-4-0 to a 2-8-2 is the best size for most modelers. When you start using longer wheelbase locomotives like super-powered engines (with the exceptions of Pacifics and Hudsons), duplexes, and large articulateds, you begin to encounter space and room issues.
Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoy watching a small switcher waddling around
But there’s nothing like a huge locomotive moving long trains at speed
Size doesn’t matter to me, it’s the personality
Its how you use it!
I’ve always been one for small scale, and honestly, it’s news for me hearing smaller models are more expensive!
@Scott_3F it really does depend on if you are looking for newer or older models.
Logically speaking, i should be getting smaller locomotives. My smallest (sofar) is the Athearn 2-8-0. But at the end of the day. If i see a steam locomotive of any size, an unhealthy amount of dopamine encourages me to make very poor financial decisions
Well u know what they say "little engines CAN do big things"
@@NicholasL-o2d 😎🤝😎
I love what I call "mid sized" locomotives (4-6-0's, 4-6-2's(varies based on country and fame), 2-8-0's, & 2-8-2's) While in general I avoid 4-6-2's like the plague, they're a good size for a general duty engine. I'm especially fond of both 4-6-0's, and 2-8-2's. 4-6-0's make good local passenger engines, while 2-8-2's make good freight engines. Since in HO, or N we aint going for exact lengths of trains, I find both of these engines good for what they are. Large engines are cool, but every manufacture seems to make the same 3 or 4 engines every few years(most of these 3-4 are all from Union Pacific), so I only got one(a GS4), and smaller engines, especially older ones are SUPER sencitive to grades, train length, and bad connections(I only have 1 of those, a USRA 0-6-0). Also, MacArthur abandoned his troops when Japan invaded the Philippines, and wanted to start ww3 by nuking modern day North Korea....the hell you mean "MacArthur"?
The 2-8-2 was called the MacArthur during wwii, and a few years following after the attack of Pearl Harbor in 1941. Mikado is a Japanese word. The Japanese Empire blew up Pearl Harbor. So, in order to stay patriotic against the enemy at the time, railroaders and some companies named their 2-8-2s after the most beautiful man alive. Douglas MacArthur.
Also, MacArthur was ordered by President Roosevelt to evacuate due to the rapid advance of the Japanese Empire in early 1942. He wanted to fight, but the president wanted him to roll to a safer location because the Bataan Peninsula and Corregidor were already under control of Japan due to their advance. And if the best General in the Pacific got taken prisoner, that would not be good for the US in the Pacific Theater. So as you mostlikely know MacArthur said, "I will return." And in October 1944 he said, "People of the Philippines, I have returned." Afterward the Battle of the Philippine Sea occurs, The US won, and even though Jonathan Wranwright and his men were left by 1942, most survived the prison camp. Both Wranwright and MacArthur even received the Metal of Honor due to their defense against an overwhelming large enemy. So no MacArthur didn't abandon anyone, it was Roosevelt with strategic thinking, unfortunately war is a game that loses anyone under difficult circumstances. But I see pulling out MacArthur was a smart move there.
I would like to add that during the Korean War, it is not clear in the slightest that nukes would cause wwiii. It would have a higher chance to show that while deadly, a nuke wouldn't be as effective as most would think it should be. So you go frolic in that Alternate Universe, and I'll stay here. Also, The Cuban Missile Crisis was the closest that war would cause another global conflict.
For me, some small engines would derail themselves due to their small wheelbase
Personally smaller engines
I am a British N scale user and a 4F Fowler tender engine 0-6-0 id a meduim engine in British standards
We have 4 catergory
Small tank engine
Large tank engine
Small tender engine
Large tender engine
for example . A 0-4-0 pug is small
But a 4MT is large
A Fowler 4F is small
A Princess is large
you get it ? . Personally I prefer all forms in British types as for an scale all of it is tiny …
However I prefer smaller tender engines . Or medium sized engines as there called . As they yes are small as are most 0-6-0 engines and simple for the most part they can be strong and can pull quite a bit . However are small enough to fit round a tight radius and can be used for shunting
There the everything engine ! Go anywhere and do anything , hence why I love them .
0-6-0 tender engines
2-6-0 tender engines
4-4-0 tender engines
They all fit to the catergory of medium engines . Like my beloved 4F fowler .
But any engine is good if it works well . But personally I enjoy the medium engines more . Out of any of the others that Is
Both. Both is good.
I mainly use small locomotives, but I do have some large locomotives. Of the large locomotives, I have one 2-8-2 (Southern Railway 4501), two 2-8-0s (Southern 630 and 722), three 4-6-2s (ACL 1525, PRR 5448, and Southern 1396), one 4-8-2 (Southern 1491, ex-Saluda Grade), and one 4-6-4 (NYC J3a 5438). I am looking into getting another 2-8-2 MacArthur for my railroad. It will be painted as BL&G number 11, and I will paint it up in the same scheme as my 2-10-0s.
@SouRwy4501Productions ah yes, a fellow southern man
Yummers!
Really sweet video man! Great job
@@GandyGoat1955 thanks
Great Video!
@@Trainboy2012nederland thank you.
Nice video brotater👍
@@RelytCoyote15 thanks 👍🏻
Love the new intro man keep it up!
Thanks!
I'm a o scaler and I must say that some of the same rules do apply
I personally love smaller engines. For me they are personally cheaper. But I do own bigger engines like a 2-10-2 and 4-4-2. I do plan on getting a 2-8-2 at some point though
This is a pretty good video! The only issue i have is there are some points in the video where i can barely hear you due to the music, But other than that great job!
@@suzie2769 thank you for the feedback.
I'm a medium is premium kind of guy. Give me my engines that aren't super small, but are by no means giants. So I'd probably land in the small camp on this one. I love looking at challengers and bull mooses, but what I have is way too small for them. That and I run smaller trains, typically 3-4 cars, depending on length, but a mixed goods train can be 5-7 cars long. Honestly I'll get any engine I think looks interesting, but I'd rather run the medium sized ones.
The Bachmann spectrum 4-4-0s are some of my favorite small steam examples, it’s a shame they go for way more than they should
@@Harrisonidk agreed
Supply and demand. Want more 4-4-0's, convince/lobby every manufacture to stop making so many of the famous locomotives since they hardy sell relative to other engines.
Personally, larger locomotives are better pullers, however maintenance (yes also in Lego) and cost, outweighs the pros. so I am going to have to agree with you, the small boi's win. (also they are cute).
Interesting POV.. I am of the opposite mind set. Since mine only ever sit and hardly run, I open them up when needed, which means that my maintenance cost is lower. Articulated engines though I avoid because they only come in 3 varieties...unless someone can make Black Hills Central 108 & 110, I don't see myself ever owning any articulated steam engines 'till late next year. And to be frank my first one will probably be after I get a 2-10-4..or whichever one of those decapod's is Madame Queen.
@@BattleshipOrion even more interesting. I am more of a guy who runs the choo choos rather than let them be shelf queens. (i dont like shelf queens). but totally off topic, Merry Christmas!
@@fletchingfreight I don't like shelf queens either, unless they are part of my ship collection. Dispite evry excuse the community can think up of otherwise, I simply cant run my engines...that and due to selling off most of my previous collection, I kind a have to rebuild my locomotive fleet. Modern diesels are not exactly my thing.
Shays as small locomotives Makes sense. But have you ever been next to Westside 10? Is the Unintah Mallet small.
@hexazalea that's the bit of a Gray area. I think that articulated tank engines are classified as quote on quote "small"
I'd say they're more "mid-size".Large for 3ft gauge, but definitively mid-sized compared to it's larger double-frame counter parts.
If any big steam fans want go get rid of their little engines send them my way 😂😂😂
@@OldIronVideo 😂
You also have a little miner
@@crazythomas38 yes
Most of my trains are 0-6-0 american tender locos
Another great job (Battle) that had to take you hours to finish.
With that being said… 😁
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 🎅 Happy New Year 🎈
Ps.. I miss our little buddy, keeping us up to date on, you guessed “TRAINS”
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@LetsBeFrank-ix1lg Merry Christmas, I hope you and your family have an enjoyable Christmas session.