Bag O' Computer Parts & Quantum Bigfoot hard drive
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Recent thrift store finds... Correction: The pin header on the sound card is actually an output for playing the sound card's audio through your computer's internal speaker.
*Correction:* The pin header on the sound card is actually an output for playing the sound card's audio through your computer's internal speaker.
I've been trying to find a dead Quantum Bigfoot drive for a while. Absolutely do not need one that works.
The SCSI controller on the PAS16 cards should automatically install. At least it does on Windows 95 as a Trantor SCSI controller. Transfer speed is SLOW. Just fast enough for a 4x CD-ROM drive. Being SCSI you can attach other SCSI devices like scanners and hard drives, but you can't boot from drive connected to the sound card. No BIOS ROM for it.
Taiwanese here, yes in the 1980s the Taiwanese government went all in to computer manufacturing, that was when the Hsinchu Science Industrial Park was established (I'm from Hsinchu), and companies like Acer and Asus today got started by manufacturing generic and reversed-engineered (aka pirated or unlicensed) computer components
@11:15 hard drives are not sealed (unless it is helium). Some will even have a arrow printed on the sticker "do not cover this hole". This is a breather hole, releasing pressure when the drive heats up. Also this is a reason hard drives have min/max altitude/pressure specifications. However the hole is small, and is protected by the filter on the inside.
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"Here, you can see Windows XP booting up in its natural habitat..."
*its
goddangit. edited.
mine dosen't do that, though it is starting to get old but i'm a xp user that was more windows 98 or 95 boot up
What's your steam name?
how fucking fast did it boot though.. boom.
How those past 15 - 20 years went, from 4 - 8 GB HDDs before the turn of the Century to now 4 - 8 TB HDDs in 2017. Guess storage capacities certainly are something that we'll find ourselves running out of sooner than one would have expected.
I just run into a bigfoot on Lisbon’s flea market, it was under a bunch of optical drives, over the wet curb. Offered 1.5€ just for the kicks of it. It works flawlessly! I’m so happy to have this mythical creature in my retro collection! Cheers.
I was explaining to my son how Drive lettering the other day. I wanted to see if he knew why Hard Drives never get the letter A:\ or B:\. He suprised me the other day. I guess I have raised him well.
:) :D
I have the largest Bigfoot from the last series, the 20 Gig Bigfoot TS. Faster RPM (if I remember right), and much better reliability (including a redesign to make it more resistant to shock damage). I really do love those large drives and actually like the spindle sound and, more importantly, the stout seek sounds it makes.
I could hear it actually almost complete the seek test at 15:49. Perhaps some dust has settled on the platters, and it would clear up after running for a while?
Quantum Bigfoot.. I just love those drives.
I have one in my good old Compaq Presario 5186, I believe it's a 6,4 GB drive.
There's just some charm to how they sound :)
Back when they were new, it was my experience that even the earliest Bigfoot drives were head and shoulders above the 3.5" Fireball line in terms of reliability. And yet somehow things have turned around. I've still got a few Fireball drives that work and no (well, maybe there is *one*) Bigfoot drives that still work.
I was able as of a few weeks ago to post a comment on UA-cam using IE8.
Did you have a Compaq AIO PC that has the Freball HDD that would get stuck all the time?
It's funny you mention that because I actually have a fireball which is used as the boot disk for a FreeNas computer, and it always gets stuck for a few seconds before it can spin up when it first turns on.
I own or have owned at least one example of every generation of Fireball drive, and reliability seems to be spotty (but generally good) across the entire history. The best ones seem to be the ones between 2.1 and 6.4 GB. The ProDrive ELS drives seem to be good as well. And I have a newer BigFoot that just goes and goes.
Drauga1 made a video about a Quantum Bigfoot HHD a while ago.
3MJB Studios I think Drauga1 installed Windows ME on the quantum big foot
Yes, he did.
He did. Bigfoot drives make your optical drives nervous, because it's so big. Apparently.
Recycle Hin is that because if you don't have a spot for it you have to remove one of the optical drives ? Lol
Yeah that's right - in a dual drive setup you've got to take the secondary out. Also it is prudent to *not* slave a Bigfoot to an Optical drive. Bigfoot ain't no slave. (That was one of Druaga's best videos I think)
Whatever you do, *DO NOT* plug the PC Speaker signal into that sound card, you'll blow the amp. That header is an output for a speaker in the case, the PAS actually sniffs the PC Speaker signal directly from the ISA bus but might not detect it in faster machines. In short, you'd disconnect the PC Speaker from the motherboard and plug the speaker itself into the sound card. But yeah, otherwise the PAS cards are brilliant and they do have Sound Blaster compatibility. I swear by my PAS16 for my 66MHz Pentium system, never lets me down and their included software is brilliant.
That "bonk" sound brought back memories of a friend's PC with a bad Bigfoot HDD. I knew your efforts were hopeless the moment I heard it.
Small capacity hard drive production was probably maintained for service spares on old equipment. I recall seeing a 4gb 3.5" drive, dated 2004. That 4gb drive was likely intended for service spares for 90s equipment. On the other hand, I remember the 10gb capacity upgrade kits, circa 2000, complete with a floppy disk to re-flash an old computer's bios.
Yes, I would agree with your reasoning, and normally I would have expected bios modifications to have been applied. But, as I have seen a 2004 4gb drive, when there was no consumer demand for 4gb drives, I suspect that production was continued for maintenance of batch quantities of computers (maybe a government contract), irrespective of the fact that the bios could have been re-flashed. I had a 2002 machine, originally fitted with a 40gb drive. The bios was from about July of 2002, as I recall, so the drive limit was just 128gb. I was able to re-flash it to take a 160gb drive, which was not available until the fourth (corrected from third) quarter of 2002. I certainly don't need to even consider bios re-flashing on my two current computers, as they can handle multi-terabyte drives.
In 1997, my father bought a Compaq Presario 4160 -I think- computer with a 150MHz Pentium, 16MB of RAM (soldered to the motherboard, plus a free SDRAM DIMM socket) and a 2.1GB 5.25" Quantum Bigfoot which died under warranty.
In late 1998, my mother bought an Acer AcerMate 3100T with a 233MHz Pentium MMX, 16MB of EDO RAM (2x8MB 72-pin SIMMs plus 2 free sockets) and a 2.1GB 3.5" Seagate Medalist... which died under warranty.
I still have both computers :).
Do videos on em! :]
+Ale Yeah mate do a video.
Bloody lucky man, that is original IBM EGA, pretty rare card, worth in cca $100
I remember taking many of those 5.25 inch drives apart for the circuit boards and metals when I was volunteering at MCC in the mid-2000s. If I had foresight, I would have kept them and sent some your way today. I can still identify metals by sight.
Made me kinda miss the Pentium 3 DeskPro EN I had for a short time in late 2014/early 2015.
Was yours a tower or a pizza box type of thing? I have a tower Deskpro EN, but most of what I can find on Google is about the SFF model.
Something that sticks in my mind is reading an article in a computer magazine of the time recommending Bigfoots (Bigfeet?) because they offered the best storage capacity/buck of the time, saying they were fine for data storage where speed doesn't matter so much. And 2GB is small for the time; I had a 4.3GB boot drive in my 1998 PC build (also a massive 17.4GB Fujitsu that was not cheap, for storing the audio from Cubase). I remember 4.3GB being quite moderate at the time.
My early 2002 build (Athlon XP) had 60GB for boot and twin 60GB (in RAID) for data. Specs were changing really fast back then.
So jealous of American thrift stores. In the UK our "charity shops" will never sell anything approaching this. Also you will NEVER see a computer. They get dumped as they contain personal data and the charity shops would practically need training and certification just to switch it on.
In most shops I look in I will be lucky to find battery powered light up novelty egg cup. That at least will be electronic!
A couple of times I saw a old AGP graphics card. It was only in the shop because it was still in its box and was mistaken for a boxed board game.
Turns out the best place to go looking for that sort of thing round here is at the various open air car boot sales... unless it's already gone to ebay, freecycle, gumtree, or of course the tip :/
As a wise Weed smoking, Taquito addict once said. "It's so big you gotta put in the front!"
I had a Quantum Fireball drive, years ago. Same form factor as yours. It was a salvage from two of the same type, one a physically dead drive and another one that had a dead controller board. It worked, but if the drive hasn't been on before in the day, it would not spin up. So every day started with giving the drive a solid flat palmed whap to get the motor to spin up. Probably not good for the heads and platter, but it worked!
My guess with your drive, if given enough time it would have eventually started because it made different noises after a while. But that's only a 50% chance and probably not worth your time.
I've got a Quantum Bigfoot TX 8Gb perfectly working with no bad sectors/read errors. But seeing this idk if that drive is going to die easily, for now i just keep it safe no using it.
I was kinda shocked when you took out that Panasonic Floppy Drive, I have the same exact one!! I also have on of those Quantum Bigfoot HDD's, works like a charm, until i possibly shortened it's lifespan by accidentally banging it on something.
Ahh, the Bigfoot. Seemed like a good idea at the time, in 486 systems with multiple 5.25" bays but only a CDROM drive and no big floppy occupying them, and limited 3.5" expansion space. Friend had one, and it was just about the cheapest way of getting a full 2.1gb of storage into your machine at the time he bought it (yep, same size as yours), not sure you could even get 3.5" ones of that capacity at the time in fact, but they probably kept selling them for years as they would still have been cheaper. Seek time wasn't so brilliant, but for a bulk storage secondary drive in addition to e.g. your original 3.5" 528mb drive, maybe installing bigger games like Quake (and Quake II once he put in a better processor and a 3D card) it did a fine job.
And same as yours, It was also remarkably *thin*, like probably quarter height vs the half height of a typical CD or floppy, and seemed slimline (despite the wider footprint) vs even a typical 3.5" of the day which were somewhat taller than they are now. Maybe you were supposed to be able to fit two into a single bay?
The amplifiers may not be seen on sound cards these days because most computers don't really have sound cards. My computer has its own audio built into the logic board.
I don't think putting an amplifier on-board would be rocket science; and they were ditched before the end of discrete sound cards (the PCI sound cards I've seen myself don't include any).
I'm actually looking for a 1GHz DeskPro, though I'd rather have a full-sized desktop than a SFF.
I came across a Deskpro EN in a thrift store. It came with a PIII 866, but I upgraded it to a 933.
If you're still looking for one, I found an SFF unit on eBay: www.ebay.com/itm/Compaq-DeskPro-EN-SFF-Desktop-1-0Ghz-Pentium-III-CPU-512MB-Windows-98-DOS-Gaming/163018243910?epid=18014334762&hash=item25f4a4ff46:g:cdMAAOSwpeFa4Mnc
We had those big foots in our school PC's in the 90s.
I remember years ago with a customer that had a bigfoot drive that was doing that and I fixed it with a firmware update. A had to build a quantum bigfoot firmware disc and it flashed the drive and it was fine after that, however I think the drive was detecting in the bios. I used to theorize that they called them Quantum because Quantum is related to time and it was only a matter of time before the drive died. Bigfoots and Fireball drives I learned to loathe.
Older drives like that tend to have parts that freeze over time. I've resurrected several drives simply by dropping it flat on a hard surface a few times to break free any jams. Dropping from about a foot up on a solid desk works on 3.5s. Might need to drop a little closer with a heavy 5.25.
That works if the drive has stiction. But if it spins up then usually that's not the problem.
The Bigfoot cannot have been manufactured in 2000 by any kind of means. My 2000 PC had a 16 gb drive, and while I'm not completely sure, I kind of remember lowest range PC's mounting an 8 (or 8 - point - something) drive by then. So yes, the year on the Lucent chip must be closer to the manufacture date of the drive itself.
I wish I had thrift stores like that around here...
I remember when I first bought a Seagate Barracuda drive and it too was one of those first to use the fluid technology. Man what a difference that was. Although I still don't mind the sounds of vintage hard drives, I think when you start getting used to silent computing technology, hearing any sort of noises irritates the average user moreso than it would've 20 years ago. Just think about it, hard drives went from loud and clunky to literally silent and even silent completely with SSD technology, even removable media...floppy drives/CD-ROM drives to flash drives and even SD cards to an extent. My Pentium III computer in the living room is quite loud with the power supply in it and this Core2 Duo in here is almost silent. I think some of the only real exceptions to newer computers would be fans on laptops which can still make quite a bit of noise when trying to cool the machines off.
Well, here's the deal. It's an HP Vectra VL600 desktop case machine and the power supply actually doubles as a CPU cooler. Although I use a slotket so I can use a SL52R processor with it and it has its own fan, there's no way to throttle the fan down on the power supply and just runs full speed all the time. Problem is, the way the case is designed, it's next to impossible to get a proper fitting replacement or at least something that would suffice.
VWestlife
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Pentium III Fastlane Racer!!!
LM79XX are negative voltage regulators.
I still have an original factory Bigfoot drive still in the my compaq Presario desktop from 1998. It still has the original windows 95 image and works perfectly!
You should be able to resurrect the old hard drive by removing the controller off of it and giving it a clean with isopropyl alcohol. You may need an even older OS and computer to read from it.
1:21 Hercules! Hercules! 2.1 GB in 2000? 8:22 Whaaaat? I guess my IBM Aptiva with a AMD K6-2 500 Mhz processor with 96 MB of RAM and a 13.4 GB HD was somewhat high end back then. It was my first new PC that I got with my own cash back in 1997.
I have a Compaq presario from 97' and it runs 95 and has a whopping 1.96 gig bigfoot drive. That sounds just like yours
The Quantium drive itself is officially dead. At least it can now be in the collection. Might wanna find someone who can turn it into a clock.
These hard drives were an option in some IBM Aptiva models
I still have a Quantum Bigfoot TS 20GB drive hanging around somewhere. It did run the last time it was used.
I have one! I remember thinking I would never fill it up, Yeah Right! They also produced an 8 gig model as well. I just dug it out from my obsolete computer parts. It still works ( very noisy though).. It has Windows 98 second edition installed with Logic Audio for the Roland VM3100pro music creation software.
Those old graphics cards look insane
ah yes the typical quantum bigfoot green light flash indicating it could not finish its seek test.
With regards to UA-cam on IE 8, Well...might have to try that sometime.
I did a hack about 2 years ago where I got Opera 3.62 under Windows for Workgroups to almost load a youtube video using the 32-bit flash plugin from Firefox from Windows 7 - got the complete loading circle and everything. I think given the right circumstances, enough fiddling (and convoluting my brain in ways not done in years) loading videos on older browsers and O/S is possible.
Oldest thing I ever ran UA-cam on was a 486 DX2-66 (same machine actually before I upgraded it) running Windows 95 OSR2 and IE 5.1 w/ 128-bit Encryption add-on - it actually did work, but the frame rate was more like a picture show than a video, but the streaming audio was dead-on 100%. That was almost10 years ago (2008 I think) though when the video playback system was a bit different.
Hey, looking closely at 15:21 , I think I recognise that NEC DVD burner drive, and if I remember correctly, these were very easily upgraded to be able to burn Dual Layers DVDs with a firmware update. Anyway, thanks for another great video.
Quantum: Requires a hammer to start it up.
Another possibility is that maybe the jumper settings are off or the IDE cable isn't connected all the way.
Damn VWestlife, where are you bin in there days? I Missed your videos! I glad to upload! Nice! :)
The Bigfoot drive is very gigantic, i have one of that drives, but in 3,25 type, and 2,5 gigabyte. I didn't like that type of drives.
Yea, where are you bin in there days?
Worth the $3.99 just for the PAS16 alone. I like Big Foot drives for older machines. Something unique and different to run. Unfortunate that one is toast.
Even for being toast, it's still cool to explore and since you can't really "break" it anymore than it already is, it would be nice to dissect it just to see the internals and how things have changed over the years. Even as big into computers as I am, I never knew they had 5.25 inch hard drives like that. So even for me, it was quite neat to see.
Man I wish my thrift store could sell computer parts.(I think they is a government restriction agist these things at least for the hard drives)
Compaq 5050 and Compaq 5150 both came with Quantum Bigfoot hard drive. I forgot witch is Pentium 2 and Pentium 3. both was good for old games.
make a video of you disassembling that quantum to see if there's any platter damage.
A bigfoot, nice. their so loud. I have the first one that came out...97 I think and 1.2GB. mine spins up but it has a ton of corrupt sectors.
Mine still works..... With Logic Audio installed...Win98se....
I have not seen a quantum bigfoot in a long time.
How many RPM is that drive?
3600 RPM.
Hmm... I'd expect it to be more than that, considering its size and noise it makes.
Bigfoots had slower spindle speeds than most others of their time.
3599 rpms
I have a 4.3GB BigFoot myself, same age as yours I think, love the sound they make when spinning up, though mine seems to have suffered damage to the IDE connector cos there's plastic missing from it as thought he IDE ribbon was yanked upwards, though it definitely sounds like yours has died though unfortunately, very unique and odd drives... :)
Always hated those big foot drives,very unstable and too big to fit in smaller cases with already filled 5.25" bays. 1.3gb quantum bigfoot that my dad bought for his AOL windows 98 machine.Hated it. I would tap the case or he would bump it and down goes the PC. Then he wised up and bought a 10GB Western Digital and the troubles on the hardware front ceased! Until he bought a PC-Chips 133 first gen P4 board! No!!! In other news... I wanted to explore my local thrift store in the spirit of this video to see what I would find and I found a newish Yamaha PSR18 FM keyboard,stand and headphones for $16 after tax! Not bad. I did see a ATT wall phone but decided not to buy it..yet.
This is Quantum BIGFOOT!!!! Druaga1
i think ur quantum has a head crash i can hear buzzing when the heads move. touched the platter.
I'm wondering if the bigfoot has actually been wiped or someone just gave it away because it didn't work
I hate you for having that IBM keyboard. I had one of those in the early 90s and greatly miss it. It had a nice form factor and was not bulky like the other Model Ms.
i really don't understand why the stores or goodwill removed everything from a case, just re-move the hard drive leave everything in,
i watch your videos to fall asleep
watch them again when i wake up °\(^▿^)/°
I had a quantum Bigfoot hard drive I believe it was oh uh 4 gb and I was running windows 98se on a gateway 2000 pentium 2 processor with 256 mb ram. or 512. heck I had dial up it was my first computer had a tape drive 3.5 floppy . I got it before I graduated high school 2005 at a goodwill store with keyboard and mouse. didnt have monitor so grabbed one off shelf and used that
Ugghh... I need everything that you named at the beginning so bad... (Well, except floppy drives)
I love floppy drives and especially the great sound they make.
Yeah, I do too, but I raided one semi-old storage room and I got about hundred of them so I think I am set for now :D
a good antivirus + firewall that I found for Windows XP x64/x32 is Comodo
bigfoot hard drive my gods! not seen one of those in a while i think we had 2 maybe 3 at the computer reclying place i was at, looking back now man you'd kill me (or the owner) for the stuff we destroyed, but 95% of it was pritty much water damaged or was pritty much wet from being left outside for a while
my late 1998 compaq presario came with an 3.5" 8gb seagate.
for transferring mini DV tapes to your computer do you recommend using windows movie maker or Win DV
Whatever works best for you.
There is one more way to get a bigger hard drive that they used is to add platters !! So instead of one or two they might have seven platters !!
Yes, but that makes the drive taller. 1.625″ high (equal to a half-height 5.25″ bay) HDDs did exist back in the day (mainly for enterprise; the last of them being, as far as I know, Seagate's Barracuda 180 in 2001), but good luck fitting one into a modern PC case.
Yea i agree with the big foot, i have a 1999 laptop with a 5gb hard drive
Can I ask what thrift stores you recommend? There aren't many good sources for old tech near me, and I actually live fairly close to Rt 22
Unique, Value Village, or Savers -- whatever the chain is known as in your area.
Thanks.
Where do you go for your thrift store purchases? The goodwill near me doesn't sell computer parts, or even computers. How can I find a place to hunt like you do?
Go to Unique, Savers, or Value Village -- whatever it's called in your area. They're all run by the same company.
I've often wondered about how people get find components because our charity stores aren't allowed to sell electronic stuff in the UK. Well, they can, but items have to be checked by a qualified electrician beforehand, so most don't bother because of the extra effort required on their part.
mat-SOOSH-ta.
I have the same hard drive pulled a compaq tower.
I had this exact drive in 1997
If you pick it up and slam it down not hard sometimes that works with old hard drives. Hey if it's dead you can't really hurt it anymore.
I had an old yellow monochrome PC that took those 5.25 floppy disks and someone I know put one of those brick hard drives on it to make it more usable, and one day it wasn't reading right and he slammed it on the table and it started working again.
I wish I still had that drive as I'd try to hook it to a modern PC like you did with that USB adapter but this drive had different connectors.
Once i bought a Quantum Bigfoot 2.1GB HDD for 40PLN (10USD) but it didn't arrive. Thankfully i got my money back.
Yeah, I bought 2 items on Amazon a few years ago, but neither of them arrived.😐
Is the 5 1/4 floppy drive working?
I was expecting you to take the HDD apart
what brand is the usb device you're using to hook up the hard drive?
It doesn't have a brand.
Looks like it had an FCC logo, must be the brand :P ...or maybe China.
I ordered a generic one from Amazon... been looking for just this sort of thing.
they still make floppy disks still ?
do you have a link to the sata/IDE adaptor thingy? I realy gotta get myself one of those do to the convenience of it. Have a ton of drives that need backing up hahahow much does it cost?
They are easy to find and cheap on eBay, Amazon, etc.
is there a specific name or is it just called a universal harddrive adaptor?
Just look up USB to IDE / SATA adapter.
What is the name of the thrift store that had these?
Unique, a.k.a. Value Village or Savers, depending on what area you're in.
I bought an ibm xt 286 from eBay with a 5.25 inch mfm 40mb hdd which had failed. I also tried to get it to work in another system without any luck. I do have a question though if you don't mind. I have an Intel 2mb above board isa memory card for the ibm but I don't know how to get it to work. Any ideas?
Ask on the Vintage Computer Forum.
I alerted the site administrator that your forum post needs moderator approval, so hopefully they'll take care of it soon.
Thank you, it has now been posted.
i want to use posready 2k9 for old games if i could get a perma license
What store do you shop at?
thank you
What a beast drive :)
Check the jumpers dude.
Why do you need these things?
For the old computers I have.
Hahaha i would tke everything in that store computer related
PRC > ROC
How did you get steam on windows 98 or xp
What's that? AM stereo.what? I can hardly hear you over that silent running fan! :p
I laik old parts
Wait... HP Bought Quantum?
FUCK YOU, HP!
no HP just used Quantum drives for their PC's. Maxtor bought Quantum, Then Seagate Bought Maxtor.