Analysis for Composers #4 - Tempo Changes in Beethoven's op. 130

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  • @almuel
    @almuel 5 років тому +4

    I am really enjoying all of your analysis videos. The last time I listened to this piece I noticed the tempo changes but didn’t realize it’s importance and beauty until now. Please keep it going. Also if possible, I’d really love to see analysis of contemporary works too. Like works by Xenakis or Schnittke. Thanks for the videos.

  • @garrysmodsketches
    @garrysmodsketches 2 роки тому

    in Mozart's string quintet in D, the slow introduction returns in the first movement

  • @MrInterestingthings
    @MrInterestingthings 5 років тому +1

    Gorgeous music introducing your lessons . Now i know i better get a doctorate. The world is full of new beautiful music being written everyday by so many and so many prizes being awarded ; to be taken seriously and even keep motivation ill need this environment.

  • @BazzTriton
    @BazzTriton 5 років тому +1

    Muito bem. Obrigado.

  • @caterscarrots3407
    @caterscarrots3407 5 років тому +1

    I notice that in pieces where Beethoven repeatedly changes tempo, he tends to change time signature in sync with it. An example not analyzed in the video but mentioned is the first movement of the Pathetique Sonata, in which case all the Grave sections are in 4/4 and all the Allegro sections are in 2/2. Could this time signature change be part of what brings cohesion to the sudden changes in tempo?

  • @davidungercomposer
    @davidungercomposer 5 років тому

    Thanks Alan! It is always great to follow your postings. You have a truly great abillity to find things that fill in the blanks of what is otherwise to be found online or IRL.
    This type of sudden tempo changes incorporated in the form made me think of the CPE Bach C minor trio sonata where this is also used to great effect.
    This is a fun performance that makes this very clear:
    ua-cam.com/video/oHG1xPsGr10/v-deo.html

  • @caterscarrots3407
    @caterscarrots3407 5 років тому

    I personally think of the character of the piece and the tempo as being independent. For example, if I rarely use dynamics above mf and use a minor key, I can easily make an Allegro sound funereally sad. On the other hand, I can make a super slow adagio sound upbeat by using a lot of fast notes and forte dynamics and indeed doing that can give a deception of tempo, making it seem like an Allegro when it is really an adagio. I notice what seems like true and false allegro in the Pathetique sonata. The Grave sections sound Allegro precisely because Beethoven uses a lot of fast notes.

    • @caterscarrots3407
      @caterscarrots3407 5 років тому

      @@cliffpinchon2832 I did, I listened to the whole video. I'm just not sure that tempo is fundamental to character like he says it is.

    • @caterscarrots3407
      @caterscarrots3407 5 років тому

      @@cliffpinchon2832 Now that you mention it, I don't think I can. Even something as simple as Minuet in G would start feeling humourous if I increased the tempo from its moderate speed.

    • @tdesq.2463
      @tdesq.2463 Рік тому

      The melody line can dance with 1/32 notes. But how is your bottom moving? That's where the Time & Tempo are typically identified.