CLARIFICATION: €209 includes the quilt, compression bag, storage sack AND the sheet. You can buy the sheet separately for €40 if you damage the original or if you have an existing quilt that uses a No.3 YKK zip.
i do something similar with a Costco- black diamond down blanket …. they were awesome when they came out but they only lasted a year or two and never appeared again 😁 nice and informative video … thankyou👍
It's nice to show something with unique features. For me, I like the way you can wriggle around without falling off the pad! Zips on both sides are great for regulating your temperature. It's a fair amount of money, but 870+ fill power hydrophobic down unfortunately comes at a price.
@@BackpackingUK Its a really cool design, I did find myself slipping off my mat a bit when pitching on slanted ground. I'm thinking this would be a great solution to that. I have however just got the rapide extra wide long haha
In your opinion Andy, do you think that other sleeping bags (my thermarest OHM) for example would be able to zip onto the sheet? Very interesting sheet design.
Possibly if they share the same size zip. It’s a YKK zip so you’d just need to know the number. The OHM is basically the same as this without the sheet.
The best summer sleeping kit is a poncho liner or whoopie blanket that's light and warm you can buy dozens of them good the price of that and I use mine from early spring too mid to late autumn and don't get cold
I have the Rock Front 350 Pro with a Tcomfort / Tlimit rating of +4°C / -2°C, and I really enjoyed using it. Just a heads up, the sheet fits much better with full-size sleeping pads. I use it with a Nemo Tensor Long Wide pad, and it fits perfectly.
Nice sleep system Andy, thanks for the review. But that looks like an even nicer new tent in the background. Are we getting an Unna review soon? 🤞. Thanks J
Someone was selling a brand new Unna with Footprint on eBay for under £500. They even included a full set of Hilleberg sand / snow pegs (worth £93 alone). I’m a sucker for a bargain so snapped it up! I’ll be using it this autumn 👍
@@BackpackingUK Wow, thats a bargain! I just bought a Soulo and an Unna as I cant decided which one or which colour. I used the Soulo at the weekend and am deliberating on keeping the Unna. I think I’m keeping both!
So I'm confused, because their website says the sheet is INCLUDED with the blanket while you say they are a purchase of 209 plus 40 for the sheet SEPARATELY. So which is it Andy? Other than that, it does seem expensive for what it offers but I guess it's because of the down.
Interesting Andy, looks like a compromised Zenbivy copy. No doubt they’ll be unhappy with the plagiarism but happy with the inferior features and quality. Keep up the great content 👍🏼
So 510 g in total vs. 579 g for a Rab Neutrino 200 which is good down to 4 C.... Very interesting to see your review, but I think I'll stick to my Rab bag
This review isn’t about weight or warmth. It’s about freedom of movement and temperature regulation. For instance, the Neutrino is a massively restrictive mummy style sleeping bag whereas this set up allows you to experience the full width of your pad from top to bottom. I’ve personally got a Thermarest Hyperion too, which is equally restrictive as the Neutrino, but they don’t suit a lot of campers. However, they are both ultralight and compact.
I understand some people prefer a quilt, glad it works well for you. Personally I place a lot of store on simplicity. It's really good that there are people like you out there though to open my (and others) minds to new ideas. Keep up the excellent work Andy
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CLARIFICATION: €209 includes the quilt, compression bag, storage sack AND the sheet.
You can buy the sheet separately for €40 if you damage the original or if you have an existing quilt that uses a No.3 YKK zip.
Don't you have to pay Import Duty and VAT on Top of that?
Finally someone spotted my favourite budget sleep system.!
The 350pro is supposed to be 3 season
Thanks for review!
Interesting system put id opt for the 350 version and get a bit more use out of it
i do something similar with a Costco- black diamond down blanket …. they were awesome when they came out but they only lasted a year or two and never appeared again 😁 nice and informative video … thankyou👍
Really, really good review but, damn, it’s really, really expensive for what it is.
Im 65 and kit gets better and better ..but..blimey its a bit out of my pensioners pocket ..good stuff though. And a good review .thank you
Good review.Thanks! Personally I'm using Cumulus sleeping bag.
Wow 🤩 I love that. I could use it on my bed at home too during the summer.
Love it 🥰
We have done that too. I’ve also taken it on a caravan holiday too!
I recommend the kelti bestie for summer 1.5lb 33 quid lasts forever
I would never ever buy a "summer sleeping system". That works perhaps for 2 weeks of the year. After that, its getting colder. Better safe than sorry
Lol I'm the opposite, summer sleep system is good about 45 weeks a year for me, I would never buy a winter sleep system
So what do use for rest of summer use a winter down sleeping bag yeah ok 🤣
@@gazza1858 No. For the rest of the "summer" I would use a 3 or 4 season bag. Hope this helps
Thanks for the vid mate,
more sleep systems to consider now!
It's nice to show something with unique features. For me, I like the way you can wriggle around without falling off the pad! Zips on both sides are great for regulating your temperature. It's a fair amount of money, but 870+ fill power hydrophobic down unfortunately comes at a price.
@@BackpackingUK Its a really cool design, I did find myself slipping off my mat a bit when pitching on slanted ground. I'm thinking this would be a great solution to that. I have however just got the rapide extra wide long haha
In your opinion Andy, do you think that other sleeping bags (my thermarest OHM) for example would be able to zip onto the sheet? Very interesting sheet design.
Possibly if they share the same size zip. It’s a YKK zip so you’d just need to know the number. The OHM is basically the same as this without the sheet.
The best summer sleeping kit is a poncho liner or whoopie blanket that's light and warm you can buy dozens of them good the price of that and I use mine from early spring too mid to late autumn and don't get cold
I have the Rock Front 350 Pro with a Tcomfort / Tlimit rating of +4°C / -2°C, and I really enjoyed using it. Just a heads up, the sheet fits much better with full-size sleeping pads. I use it with a Nemo Tensor Long Wide pad, and it fits perfectly.
Mine was too small for a long-wide pad. I know they've recently updated the sheet, maybe they made it larger?
Considering getting this setup (with the Tensor Long Wide), does it get too hot if it's like 15°C outside? Or would you just open everything up then?
@@JeroenCoelen When it’s 15, I do not zip the quilt to a bed sheet and use the quilt as a regular blanket
I'm a tall (193cm) stomach sleeper, would you think this quilt is too short for me?
I’d say too short.
@@BackpackingUK Thanks!
Unfortunately the down used is not RDS certified🤥
A 30 quid kelty blanket will do the same job no feather leakage light and more damp proof
😊
I love how your attached to your mat, I reckon I'd sleep 😴 better because of that
200 is just too light for me. I use 400 in the summer. Decent set up though.
This is the older version of their sheet. They upgraded the sheet recently
I noticed the pillow compartment is different. Is there anything else?
Nice sleep system Andy, thanks for the review. But that looks like an even nicer new tent in the background. Are we getting an Unna review soon? 🤞. Thanks J
Someone was selling a brand new Unna with Footprint on eBay for under £500. They even included a full set of Hilleberg sand / snow pegs (worth £93 alone). I’m a sucker for a bargain so snapped it up! I’ll be using it this autumn 👍
@@BackpackingUK Wow, thats a bargain! I just bought a Soulo and an Unna as I cant decided which one or which colour. I used the Soulo at the weekend and am deliberating on keeping the Unna. I think I’m keeping both!
My Aegismax down sleeping bag is lighter at 475 grams and way way smaller.
But it won’t have the benefits of this system. It’s just a sleeping bag.
@@BackpackingUK fair enough, it works for me
So I'm confused, because their website says the sheet is INCLUDED with the blanket while you say they are a purchase of 209 plus 40 for the sheet SEPARATELY. So which is it Andy? Other than that, it does seem expensive for what it offers but I guess it's because of the down.
I’ll double check. I got it over a year ago so I may have forgotten it if comes with one or not 🤦🏻♂️
@@BackpackingUK Thanks for the swift reply mate. Their website says it does, hence my confusion. Could be they changed it in a years time then?
@@randyespoda1603 It does include it! Sorry for the confusion.
@@BackpackingUK No worries mate. Thanks.
It’s not a zenbiy
Nice one Andy
Interesting Andy, looks like a compromised Zenbivy copy. No doubt they’ll be unhappy with the plagiarism but happy with the inferior features and quality. Keep up the great content 👍🏼
It’s very different to the Zenbivy, I’ve got that too.
So 510 g in total vs. 579 g for a Rab Neutrino 200 which is good down to 4 C.... Very interesting to see your review, but I think I'll stick to my Rab bag
This review isn’t about weight or warmth. It’s about freedom of movement and temperature regulation. For instance, the Neutrino is a massively restrictive mummy style sleeping bag whereas this set up allows you to experience the full width of your pad from top to bottom. I’ve personally got a Thermarest Hyperion too, which is equally restrictive as the Neutrino, but they don’t suit a lot of campers. However, they are both ultralight and compact.
I understand some people prefer a quilt, glad it works well for you. Personally I place a lot of store on simplicity. It's really good that there are people like you out there though to open my (and others) minds to new ideas. Keep up the excellent work Andy
Come on €250 for a sleeping bag 😂😂😂
Unfortunately, high fill power down is expensive. If this was a premium brand it’d be 50% more!