I'm happy with my current trackday seat. But i'm definitely gonna use this technique to make myself an office chair. Sit so long in that i might as well have something fitted to me.
Yeah. I installed and modded a Kirkey 55.. Brutal. I added foam and a back bolster but I'm no ergonomist so it's a bit rough still.. This might be the ticket DMAX motion Sim ch
Thanks for the video! Wow that liquid is interesting stuff! Let me share what has worked very well for me for FREE MATERIAL!, much of which I've learned from my brother who is a professional upholster, with making a new bench or van bench seat or boosting old car seat foam: For car seats that need boosting, most often they just need more foam added to be like new again, I find used carpet pad foam often in a neighbor's trash or dumpster behind a carpet store. Remove the car seat fabric clips and carefully peel the front and sides of the fabric to gain access under the seat foam core, which often requires the seat be unbolted from the floor. Place a sheet of it or two under the seat foam core, right on top of the spring wire deck(carpet pad foam is tougher than the core so this also stops the spring wire deck from cutting into the seat foam core bottom). Your second sheet can be cut smaller just covering the area the butt sits on. Also inspect the top of the foam core and add carpet pad foam or regular foam where might be needed like by the door, worn from getting in and out over the years. Spray adhesive can be used to bond the foam to the foam but is not necessary except for any top foam added. Your seats will be firm and new like for many years now, it's like free magic! The seat back usually doesn't need a any foam because it's the seat that gets the body weight on it from gravity. If you seat back should need a boost, you can add polyfill batting on top of the foam for free-see below. These methods can also be used on sofa seat cushions. I'll share below where to find FREE used good foam below! To make a bench- where to get free foam: there is so much FREE foam and FREE polyfill - in many soft pillow backs and polyfill batting often wrapped around foam cushions for the taken in people's discarded sofa's and chairs found outside dumpsters at apartment complexes and the back of thrift stores. Even though it's used, it has been well protected covered inside the upholstery. Of course in the event it's a cat lady's furniture and the cats happened to piss all over it, you'll smell it and know to move on lol Most apartments don't allow pets or make it expensive to have a pet so a lot of furniture is pet free. Use a box cutter to open the old furniture to get at the free foam or poly as you need or use the zipper you'll find on some pieces. Some foam in old sofas contain like a 1" thick panel of foam on top of other foam that is perfect thickness to add to your sofa foam to give it the new boost again. Foam can be cut to size using a hack saw loose blade only in your hand holding the end making a sawing motion. New foam looses some of it's firmness over a break in period, say after 5 years depending on how much it's sat on. But then the broken in foam lasts a very very long time at that softer level firmness before it really starts to break down. You might be able to buy complete new expensive foam cushion cores but they will sag after the break in period as well. This is why so often we love a new firm piece of furniture but then it gets soft and saggy on us. Now the sofa companies could to put super firm more expensive foam in their sofa's when new that might be a perfect firmness for us when broken after the 5 years break in period, but then we wouldn't buy the sofa if it's not nice to sit on from the beginning in the show room, so there's the dilemma when you fabric is still in great shape after 5 years but the foam is now sagging. The free fix: So just add more foam if you can firms it up to make it like new again, unzip and compress the foam as you slowly peel off your fabric from the cushion core. Then either add more foam to the top or bottom or hack blade saw through the center horizontal line of the foam core all the way from the back to almost through the front but not through, so you leave a good hinge of foam in the front. Then place about a 1" thick of used foam in the sandwich and holding it closed peel the fabric back over the foam cushion. You can also add more polyfill pad to the cushion core on it's outside to add more softness and support but adding more foam is the big boost. Spray adhesive is optional to bond the foam to the foam. People often think that when the seat sags that the springs under the cushions, have weakened but no, it's the foam, the springs are metal and strong, the foam is just foam. For making complete new cushion tops for say a bench, besides free foam, you might even find a lightly used fabric in some part of a discarded sofa to use IN FACT the back side of sofa's is often a large sheet of fabric that has been hidden against the wall never sat on all it's life and so still brand new! Discarded trash at a dumpster is free for the taking and your reducing what goes to our planet's landfill. This is win win, real free hard core recycling, helping to save our environment as well! Take care!
Yes. Depending on how the fabric folds up we had to cut some slits to overlap it and glue it down to get the best fit. Make sure not to have open slits exposed though as the fabric is fire retardant and so you don't want any open gaps if possible.
I don't remember the amount we used. It depends on the size of your seat and yourself. Recommend you contact ButlerBuilt directly to ask which size kit will fit your application.
Yeah ideally you are in your race gear and sit in the car. As it was my first time pouring, I didn't want to risk getting the expanding foam on my race suit so settled for jeans and T-shirt. The small differences between the fabrics has not been noticeable and the seat is amazing out on track.
I think it's liquid pu foam. I ordered some to try a similar thing for our fsae car next week. Would be interesting to know the end density and the amount of these chemicals.
@@KangaMotorsports Okey, thanks! Another question, how many liters/oz foam seat liquid (not expanded volume) is required to make a seat? Thanks in advance
I don't have them on me right now. It is the standard size from ButlerBuilt for Spec Racer Ford. Give them a call and they should be able to get you sorted out with all the information you need to know.
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I didn't know this was possible. So glad it popped up in my feed.
Thank you for this video. I would rather hear your commentary over the music.
I'm happy with my current trackday seat. But i'm definitely gonna use this technique to make myself an office chair. Sit so long in that i might as well have something fitted to me.
Thats what i thought as well when I saw how F1 Seats are made
Definitely something I need to do to my Kirkey seat! Thank you for the informative video.
Absolutely helped at the past race weekend, way less sliding around and great car feel
Yeah. I installed and modded a Kirkey 55.. Brutal. I added foam and a back bolster but I'm no ergonomist so it's a bit rough still.. This might be the ticket DMAX motion Sim ch
Awesome stuff!
Thanks for the video! Wow that liquid is interesting stuff!
Let me share what has worked very well for me for FREE MATERIAL!, much of which I've learned from my brother who is a professional upholster, with making a new bench or van bench seat or boosting old car seat foam:
For car seats that need boosting, most often they just need more foam added to be like new again, I find used carpet pad foam often in a neighbor's trash or dumpster behind a carpet store. Remove the car seat fabric clips and carefully peel the front and sides of the fabric to gain access under the seat foam core, which often requires the seat be unbolted from the floor.
Place a sheet of it or two under the seat foam core, right on top of the spring wire deck(carpet pad foam is tougher than the core so this also stops the spring wire deck from cutting into the seat foam core bottom).
Your second sheet can be cut smaller just covering the area the butt sits on.
Also inspect the top of the foam core and add carpet pad foam or regular foam where might be needed like by the door, worn from getting in and out over the years.
Spray adhesive can be used to bond the foam to the foam but is not necessary except for any top foam added.
Your seats will be firm and new like for many years now, it's like free magic!
The seat back usually doesn't need a any foam because it's the seat that gets the body weight on it from gravity. If you seat back should need a boost, you can add polyfill batting on top of the foam for free-see below.
These methods can also be used on sofa seat cushions.
I'll share below where to find FREE used good foam below!
To make a bench- where to get free foam: there is so much FREE foam and FREE polyfill - in many soft pillow backs and polyfill batting often wrapped around foam cushions for the taken in people's discarded sofa's and chairs found outside dumpsters at apartment complexes and the back of thrift stores.
Even though it's used, it has been well protected covered inside the upholstery.
Of course in the event it's a cat lady's furniture and the cats happened to piss all over it, you'll smell it and know to move on lol
Most apartments don't allow pets or make it expensive to have a pet so a lot of furniture is pet free.
Use a box cutter to open the old furniture to get at the free foam or poly as you need or use the zipper you'll find on some pieces.
Some foam in old sofas contain like a 1" thick panel of foam on top of other foam that is perfect thickness to add to your sofa foam to give it the new boost again.
Foam can be cut to size using a hack saw loose blade only in your hand holding the end making a sawing motion.
New foam looses some of it's firmness over a break in period, say after 5 years depending on how much it's sat on.
But then the broken in foam lasts a very very long time at that softer level firmness before it really starts to break down.
You might be able to buy complete new expensive foam cushion cores but they will sag after the break in period as well.
This is why so often we love a new firm piece of furniture but then it gets soft and saggy on us.
Now the sofa companies could to put super firm more expensive foam in their sofa's when new that might be a perfect firmness for us when broken after the 5 years break in period, but then we wouldn't buy the sofa if it's not nice to sit on from the beginning in the show room, so there's the dilemma when you fabric is still in great shape after 5 years but the foam is now sagging.
The free fix:
So just add more foam if you can firms it up to make it like new again, unzip and compress the foam as you slowly peel off your fabric from the cushion core. Then either add more foam to the top or bottom or hack blade saw through the center horizontal line of the foam core all the way from the back to almost through the front but not through, so you leave a good hinge of foam in the front.
Then place about a 1" thick of used foam in the sandwich and holding it closed peel the fabric back over the foam cushion.
You can also add more polyfill pad to the cushion core on it's outside to add more softness and support but adding more foam is the big boost.
Spray adhesive is optional to bond the foam to the foam.
People often think that when the seat sags that the springs under the cushions, have weakened but no, it's the foam, the springs are metal and strong, the foam is just foam.
For making complete new cushion tops for say a bench, besides free foam, you might even find a lightly used fabric in some part of a discarded sofa to use IN FACT the back side of sofa's is often a large sheet of fabric that has been hidden against the wall never sat on all it's life and so still brand new!
Discarded trash at a dumpster is free for the taking and your reducing what goes to our planet's landfill.
This is win win, real free hard core recycling, helping to save our environment as well!
Take care!
Great tutorial mate, when you and your trusty offsider fitted the fabric, did you have to trim sections out in the bottom corners?
Cheers
Terry
Yes. Depending on how the fabric folds up we had to cut some slits to overlap it and glue it down to get the best fit. Make sure not to have open slits exposed though as the fabric is fire retardant and so you don't want any open gaps if possible.
@@KangaMotorsports okay, cheers for taking the time to reply. Good luck with the racing!
How many ounces did you use for this pour? I'm going to use a similar product to make a stool seat and am not sure how much to use. Thanks!
This is cheaper than the simlab sf1 letsgo
Also, do you know what the density of the foam is? I cannot find the details for the product on their website..
Alec Burk try this link for more information www.butlerbuilt.net/e-z-sert-pour-in-place-urethane-insert-kits
@@KangaMotorsports Thanks!
Okey, thanks! Another question, how many liters/oz foam seat liquid (not expanded volume) is required to make a seat? Thanks in advance
I don't remember the amount we used. It depends on the size of your seat and yourself. Recommend you contact ButlerBuilt directly to ask which size kit will fit your application.
Very cool.. Just a thought, should you be in your fire suit during the pour?
Yeah ideally you are in your race gear and sit in the car. As it was my first time pouring, I didn't want to risk getting the expanding foam on my race suit so settled for jeans and T-shirt. The small differences between the fabrics has not been noticeable and the seat is amazing out on track.
What size was this seat kit. small, medium or large ?
From memory I believe this was the small. But if you call ButlerBuilt they can advise you on which size is right for your car/seat.
what kind of chemicals do you use?
alex yohanes we are using the ButlerBuilt E-Z Sert kit www.butlerbuilt.net/e-z-sert-pour-in-place-urethane-insert-kits
I think it's liquid pu foam. I ordered some to try a similar thing for our fsae car next week. Would be interesting to know the end density and the amount of these chemicals.
Do you sell just the expanding foam? I have a different use for it
These kits are sold by @butlerbuilt recommend you contact them directly.
Does the fabric apply to ul94 v-0?
Sorry not able to help you there, the fabric uses a spray on adhesive. Would be best to contact a flame retardant fabric company directly.
@@KangaMotorsports Okey, thanks! Another question, how many liters/oz foam seat liquid (not expanded volume) is required to make a seat? Thanks in advance
hey do you have dimension of that seat
I don't have them on me right now. It is the standard size from ButlerBuilt for Spec Racer Ford. Give them a call and they should be able to get you sorted out with all the information you need to know.
What do you race
PDB we race a Spec Racer Ford Gen3. Check out the other videos on our channel for in car video
What is the fabric u used specifically?
Fabric comes in the kit. I think it is flame retardant MaxGard upholstery fabric but you can contact ButlerBuilt to confirm.
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