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The only thing I believe you can add to your reviews, is talking about seat height vs. your height/inseam and the approachability. I'm 5'8 with a 31" inseam so I tend to look at bikes from that perspective. While I'm not necessarily expecting to flatfoot on both sides on any given bike, how much of a stretch it could be is some worthy info.
No! Aww, I am so sad to hear of Cristian's passing. That is terrible news. His reviews were always really great and informative and he came across as a really nice guy! Shocked. RIP Cristian. Condolences to his family and friends.
Can’t believe you watch Cristian’s video too. Apart from your motorcycle expertise, you’ve also showed us your emotional and spiritual side as a real man. Good on you!
I own a 900 rally pro. Previous bikes are 1290 ktm and Tenere 700. Found the T7 was to small for long touring and taking my wife. The ktm was great for touring, however too big off-road. You have nailed this review. I wanted to have one bike that did it all. The 900 rally pro has done it.
Thank you for dedicating this to Cristian, he was an amazing person. I am a Romanian I was and I still am proud of Cristian and his accomplishments. I discovered ADV motorcycle through him. Also you are doing an amazing job with your videos and I learn a lot from them. Keep up with what you do.
Cristian was the type of presenter that made me feel like I knew him as a personal friend after watching enough of his videos. It actually feels a little strange to me that I'm out on the road and Cristian isn't, and never again will be.
Ian, you are my go-to for bike reviews. Good coverage of specs plus how the specs show themselves in the real world on road and trail. No mindless blathering, chat about the weather, the beauty of Spain (England, Italy) like the Brit reviews. Very nice, thanks!
I couldn't believe Cristian passed away. He's been such a charismatic and full of joy man. Never thought it could happen to such an experienced rider... Rest in peace Cristian. Thank you for the tribute and another great review. Take care from Moldova.
WOW! I bought the 2020 Rally Pro. I can't tell you how many videos I've watched as I did my "due diligence". Your summary of the Tiger was so informative. Great job. I'm an "old guy" (almost 67) and I wanted this bike before I get to where I can't ride anymore. I'm not a hard charger of a rider but I do like comfort and tech. This bike is a joy to ride. Just an after thought. Feb. 2021 I offered $14,400 and my offer was accepted. I'm not a good hoarse trader so take it for what its worth :)
I had my mind set on an Africa Twin but after hearing the Tiger 1200/900, I'm glad I didn't get one yet. Now I'm tosses between the Tiger 1200 and the 900. Is the 900 enough for highway use? I really don't think I need the weight of the 1200 but the power I wouldn't mind having in reserve. Also, is the Pro really worth the cost over the plain Rally?
You mentioned the africa twin dct might sway you to buy instead of the Rally Pro. You didn't mention the quick shift is butter smooth at all speeds and downshifts are great as well. If you just dont want to shift or pull in the clutch at a stop then yes its dct . But to me this makes it really close and with all the other advantages I would give the nod to the Rally Pro.
Wonderful review! I also own an R 1250 GSA with the factory lowered suspension. I owned an R 1200 GS with the factory lowered suspension prior to my GSA. I'm not an off-road rider, but I just love adventure bikes for their flexibility and choice of top loading panniers. Between the GS and the GSA, I purchased an R1200 RT. Wonderful as a 2-up touring machine. I'm sure some will vehemently disagree with me, but I never did like that bike, or how it handled. I swear my GS/GSA turned in quicker, which makes no sense in that they have a 19" front wheel vs. a 17" front wheel on the RT. I stopped by my local Triumph dealer over a year ago and immediately fell in love with the Tiger 900 GT Pro. Just lifting it up off of the kickstand was a pleasure compared to the GSA. Moving it around the showroom/garage is like moving a Schwinn bicycle vs. the GSA. Then I made the expensive mistake of taking it for a test ride. It just felt like a feather. I recently lost my "riding buddy"/"passenger" to cancer, so I will no longer be touring 2-up. For me, the Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro is the PERFECT bike. While the OEM windscreen is "okay" I wanted a little more wind protection. After a ton of research, I recently went with the National Cycle VStream Short Dark Tint Windscreen P/N N20609. Think I'd prefer the clear version, but they don't make the short in clear. It looks great on my black bike, provides better windscreen protection than the OEM windscreen and the dart tint has not bothered me at all, as I never look through a motorcycle windscreen, but instead, look over it. As a side note, you can leave the small side windscreen wings on and they look great. I'm 5' 9" with a 29.5 inseam, turned 70 over 6 months ago and have been riding for 56 years.. If you're a "senior rider," don't quit riding, but instead, consider downsizing just a tiny bit. Do yourself a favor and look at the Triumph Tiger 900 GT series if you're intimidated by the taller adventure bikes on the market today. Thanks again for the wonderful reviews you do on UA-cam.
I have a 2021 Triumph Tiger Rally Pro. After I rode it for 6 months on pavement and off, I attended the 2 day off-road course at the BMW Performance Center near Spartanburg SC (which I highly recommend to others). Students must use a BMW motorcycle for the course, so I chose the F850 GS Adventure as it came closest in weight and displacement as my Tiger. I found this review to be very accurate regarding the qualities of the Tiger, and will emphasize the need to tune the suspension to your primary use. Also, I did give the F 850GSA quite the workout during the 2 day course and have yet to encounter anything riding in the real world to exceed the challenges in training at the BMW school. we had limited on-pavement experience at the school (a few laps around the BMW track). I found the Tiger to feel lighter and better balanced than the BMW, and more comfortable on or off the seat for my 6’2” 215lb self. Granted, I did have to add some modest risers to my Tiger and would have needed them if I bought the BMW. I think the BMW 850 is the closest competitor to the Tiger. Equipped with comparable packages to get most of the same features, the cost is nearly identical. I think the Tiger is overall a better value.
Got mine two months ago. I did a 250 mile ride today - Tucson to Tortilla Flats. The perfect bike for me. Previous bikes…R75/5; R75/7; Bonneville, R1250RT.
The algorithm pushed Revzilla's video on this bike, but when I saw your review existed I immediately closed out that video and came to yours! Your honesty and authenticity is what we want! Keep it up!
Just for Cristian Predoi’s memory I subscribed…🥲 One of the best you tubers out there passed doing what we all love doing riding motorcycles anywhere on Earth… Thanks again kind Sir. I was watching your vids here and there but just for that gesture you won me over. Not that you needed another subscriber hahah And again may HE blesses you and your family for this!! Take care from Arizona
Your review was among many reviews that convinced me to buy a '22 Tiger 900 Rally Pro. I'm loving the hell out of this bike, and I'm so very much looking forward to getting it out in the mountains of Colorado this summer. Great video!
I own a Triumph Tiger 800 2017 XCA with 86000km. Zero problem an still going very well. That's my 2nd Tiger 800. I had to learn to operate the engine for off-road riding cause of the low torque feel. But, now, i have a lot of fun... on the road... lol... it's like an Street Triple. Very stable, agressive handling... an stable to the edge. I looking to change an I've watch your review of the Desert X... an it seems a very option for me. Thanks for your review
Probably the "jack of all trades, and master of many" bike in the current market! Only complain is the price, most would go the more affordable route with T7 or Africa Twin, or just pony up and get the big GS. PS: Rest in peace Predoi.
Super insightful review for the Triumph Tiger 900 rally. I am enjoying your reviews so damn much, first I think okay I want this bike, then I watch another review nope I want that bike. Long time Rider like many of us, looking to get back into it... and fill that two-wheel void in my life. Keep it up! Your reviews are super informative and enjoyable to watch. Thanks!!
Thanks for another great video and for honouring Christian’s memory in your intro. Your videos are looking much smoother now and I’m enjoying your music picks. Curious to know how the Rally would compare to the Rally Pro. Keep it up 👌
For $10 and some aluminum I put on an red LED light strip just under my plate. Connected to my brake lights and voila! Very little current draw and a very visible brake light. Thought I might like the Africa Twin now I want to ride this. Thanks for all you effort.
I recently watched Christian's review of the Tiger 800 xca. He was a great guy that had a passion for adventure and who loved his job....he will be missed for sure. I thoroughly enjoyed this review. The Tiger 900 is an awesome bike, maybe a bit pricey, but a lot of things come as standard. Thanks Big Rock Moto👍
I owned a 2015 Tiger 800XCx for 5 years. Your review indicated that Triumph has listened to the owners niggles and designed a better bike, not that the Gen 2 Tigers ( 2015-2020) were not great ADV bikes. With regard to twitchy handling, I found that adding about 20-30 Kg of luggage made the Tiger 800 track better on sand. I did fit a steering damper to my Tiger, but I am not sure that it was necessary. The only thing I don't like about the 900 is the 30% price rise.
Well balanced review thanks. I'm trying to get more ppl to buy this bike as it is underrated off-road. I have put 10,000ks of hard off-road riding on mine and it continues to put a smile on my face every time I crack the throttle. I upload videos of my rides so if you want to see a Tiger 900 ridden hard have a look. I don't care about subscribers just want to show ppl how good these bikes are off-road.
Excellent video again! You are an up-and-comer on these excellent reviews! Your video and audio quality is so good already! Much better than some other channels with 5 times the subscriber count. RIP Mr. Predoi, I will miss your content!
Three things that caused me to sell my 900 RP. Vibes put my hands to sleep, bike switches back to on road settings, plastic and frame rails hit inside of my legs while standing(deal breaker for me) Shame because it’s a beautiful bike.
Thank you from the UK for a brilliant review.. factual, informed, clear and thorough I particularly like your “drop test”.. maybe better described as a “lift test”..? Keep up the great work
Man, your videos are getting better and better, not only that your opinion is trustworthy. I also own a brand new GSA and a KTM Super Duke 1290 R I maybe selling one of them to buy a Yamaha 700, the hard part is, which one do I sell?! LOL
Nice review, as always. I have a suggestion. When you do the drop/lift test and give it a rating, it would be nice to see the other bikes you have rated in the same way. That might become cumbersome or busy to show on screen, so maybe link to a chart or something in the description? Cheers!
I liked your final thoughts especially after watching the Competition chapter. I think bike reviewers focus too much on "this bike is good for onroad and this bike os good for offroad" only. But in reality all ADV bikes are on that sliding scale where they can do both... but its a matter of how well they do one (onroad or offroad) at the compromise of the other. Your final thoughts explained this well
Great video! Extremely informative and helps in making an informed buying decision. Especially pointing out where it sits between the T7 and the 1250 GS. Thank you.
Really appreciate all the detail, the quantitative comparison with competitors, and the fast-paced info-packed delivery. Looking forward to your follow-up review.
I have a 800XCX and it’s been very reliable bike. The only other bikes I’ve been interested in is a new 900 or African twin. So I appreciate your review. Sad to hear about Cristian passing RIP.
Great review of an interesting bike that I wasn’t really considering. For now I will hang on to my R1200GSA (and keep the order for the Tenere 700) but this is a real compelling option. Keep up the great content, your unbiased opinions are appreciated
This is a great review for me. I am selling my 2022 Triumph Speedmaster because I am moving to a country with lousy roads and I will be doing more off roading, so a dual sport (ADV) is the way to go. I also have a BMW f800gs, and I thought about getting another BMW, but I've been researching these Triumphs, and your review is spot on. I love my Triumph and the way they built my bike, so I am now going to purchase this 900 Rally Pro because I just don't need a 1200cc bike where I will be living, but I don't want to drop to a 600cc or even the RE Himalayan 450. I would consider the 650, but that's not yet available to even try. Thanks for a great review.
I test rode it. The heat on my legs was a deal breaker for me. But I've got a 36" inseam so it's probably only an issue if you have long legs. I loved the engine.
Always enjoy your videos, thanks for the content. What are your thoughts between triumph 900 rally pro and the norden 901? I can't find any comparison videos between the two.
I have owned a few triumphs with the three cylinder engine. Man, when they are on the pipe, that engine is musical. Love that sound! On long trips on my 2001 Tiger, if the road was clear I'd slow down and lug the engine, then punch it just to hear it growl 🐯🐯
Just had to make one more comment after watching all the rest of the tiger reviews yours is by far the best and fairest. I truly love this bike and try to find things wrong with it but just can't. I call it the perfect Swiss Army bike
Great review. You definitely go into a lot more detail than most other motorcycle reviews and I do appreciate it. I had a chance to test ride a Rallye Pro at the recent IMS show in Central Florida and I could not agree with you more. Although I was not able to take it off road, the on road experience and performance were very impressive. Keep up the great work you’re doing.
I am a big fan of triples but this one does have vibes and you don't have to go 100 mph. Bottom line is it's just a personal experience. The older model was so creamy smooth I noticed the vibes immediately.
Great review. What I'm interested in is ergonomics, as in knee angle and position of the foot pegs in relation to the hips as well as seat height compared to the other bikes mentioned. The dashboard has been highly criticized for its unorthodox RPM gauge that is doubled and extends downwards with increasing revs. It seems it didn't annoy you enough to mention it. The integrated navigation is a great feature unless you have to use a proprietary/inferior Triumph app to enable it. If that's the case mentioning USB charging ports or accessible connectors will become important. Also available space on the handlebar for phone holders, unless a navi bar can be added. People may expect the BMW F850GS to have an engine built in Germany for its price point, but I also expect the Tiger 900 to have an engine built in the UK at its price point and not in Thailand as is the case now. 😋
Great review I love all your content! Do you think you could take some time to do a review of the headlights at night or say how good the output is? And if auxiliary light is probably needed. Thank you!!
I've ridden my Rally Pro often at night, the light is very bright and throws a nice, wide beam for excellent visibility. The OEM auxiliary lights do an excellent job and can be pivoted to compensate for load or desired pattern. My only complaint, the headlight is small so oncoming cars have pulled out in front of me probably thinking I was car much further down the road, I've gotten used to it and will turn on the auxiliary lights to help eliminate that confusion.
Another great video, sounds like the T9 here would be an idea fit for my week long tours with my MTB on the back. At least, as long as that new subframe can withstand the weight of my bicycle and rack. Oh, FYI I got hit with ~4 UA-cam ads by 22 minutes, was a bit annoying. Not sure if you are manually or automatically placing the ads but an FYI! Keep up the nice work on the channel!
Excellent review. Too bad you didn't ride a bike with the very good quick shifter. I purchased a GT Pro in May and rode it 10,000 miles this summer. The low seat height works for me at 5'8". Fuel range is outstanding. Range is better than 300 miles when ridden on twisty, mountain, back roads.
Thanks for the interesting comparisons. So far, I haven’t heard anything to make me want to part with my 2016 DCT Africa Twin, complete with nice comfy seat, grab handles and luggage rack. Cheers from the UK Barry🏍
Being quite a bit older than you, I downsized from a 1200GSA to a Tiger 900. I’d describe it as a 90% scale GSA, with equal quality and easier to push around.
I was able to Ride one for a day with Jeff Staton. I was also able to ride the 850 also, the 900 is a special bike and anyone who gets one will be happy, plenty of power and the Handling is amazing such a good bike. My Bikes 2014 Aprilia Caponord 1200 2016 GSXR 1000 ( track mostly) 2021 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT
Hey Ian, a classy gesture for Christian. I have a couple of questions: 1. Which one will you recommend for a 90-10 road rider, the Tiger or the Africa Twin. (The insight from your AT video regarding the helmet banging with the pillion was priceless coz my trips almost always will include my wife) 2. When I test drove the Tiger 900 there was a slight buzz on the handle while cruising at 60-70 kph? Did you feel it? 3. Also was feeling uncomfortable because of the heat on the legs from the engine. Did you feel it or is it an India/tropical problem? 4. Looking through the windscreen the road was looking warped, unlike the AT. Is that a problem? You are the perfect person to answer this since you are already familiar with AT. Thanks in advance.
Being an owner of a Tiger 900 RallyPro (at only 5’6” it is tall), my initial wish list bike was the T700 but it was too tall, I think you have given it a justifiably good and correct review. I can confirm that it is very good at speed on the German Autobahns, as I have been working in Munich for the past 8 months, I can also confirm that high mileage rides are comfortable. I did an 800mile ride from Munich to the midlands UK non-stop (other than fuel and channel tunnel) over 15 hours without any issues, which at 59 years old is a definite bonus. I cannot state what its credentials are off-road because I have no experience off-road and therefore have been reluctant to try it, especially on the road focus tyres it comes with - that said I have seen many reviews with competent riders giving it a good seeing to, therefore I would say the only limit to off-road capabilities are rider limits. Really happy with my choice and all I need now is a road bike for blasting around local on and a small capacity off-road bike to increase my abilities 😂 Ian Back on Two Wheels
Very classy shout out to Christian. Great review! It's a beautiful functional bike. However, that price is a killer for me. I don't want to drop that beautiful bike and rough it up at $17 grand. The complexity of these bikes in my opinion is driving the price up with more things to go wrong. Just sayin'
@@JoeMama-vj8es I agree. I always Buy Used. You can find some Great Deals on used Bikes with low Mileage. People Buy them thinking they will really use them. But then they miss their Air Conditioning or something else. They will let them sit in the Garage a Year. Then Sell them for a Bargain with low Miles. That’s how I got my R1200GS.
Nice review on the Tiger 900 Rally. I traded in my KTM 690R in last spring and purchased the 900 Rally Pro. Your evaluation is spot on. OEM crash bars look great, but they do a poor job protecting the bike. I have dropped my bike twice now and each time the bars going around the front of the tank have bent and scratched the tank. The steel seems soft and the weak point is where they join to the bracket below the front beak. I wish I would have known this before I made the investment on the bars. I am recovering from my last fall due to the bike falling on my left leg pinning me under the motorcycle. I was in some real pain because the Passenger peg bracket on the left side comes out to a point from the frame and was pierced into the side of my knee. I was fortunate to be riding with a friend who was able to get the bike off my leg. I was unable to get bike off my leg myself due to the injury to my knee. I would take the passenger brackets off the bike if it weren't for the need to keep them there for the pannier rack attachments. The pannier racks are OEM also, so not sure if there is an aftermarket option to get rid of the peg brackets. Low source of aftermarket accessories right now for this bike. I paid $175 for larger foot pegs from SW-Motech. I really like the Tiger 900 Rally Pro and would buy it again. Just wish I would have known about the OEM crash bars and pannier bracket weakness. Usually OEM parts are desired due to their being engineered for the specific bike. I really enjoy your channel.
I have the upper and lower bars on my 2020 Rally Pro. I have dropped it on the left side in the mud at about five mph-no damage. Fully loaded for touring (about 100lbs) I dropped it on the right side on pavement, which scuffed the bars a little and snapped off the end of the front brake lever (still rideable). Neither event bent the bars or affected the tank in any way. Just my two cents.
Ugh, now I'm torn between 3 bikes: - Tiger 900 Rally Pro - Scrambler 1200XE (used, 19-20) - 1290 Super Adventure-T (used, 2017) Thank you for your insights on the 900 Rally!
Wow he passed? I really enjoyed his video! No wonder i haven't seen any lately. That's really too bad. He seemed like a great guy and lots of fun and a wonderful window to Europe as well.
I haven't been a subscriber for long but your reviews and recommendations are as interesting as they are well put together. Also, congrats on what seems like a new 360° camera (?) - some very fine riding shots in this video! Looking forward to what you can do with that in the future. Btw - I don't even own a motorcycle or a license. I just came across the channel while getting riled up to get started on two wheels next year. Thanks for your work and always safe travels!
Excellent review, you are getting really good at this format. One question. You mentioned the compactness of the Tiger’s engine top to bottom as compared to the Tenere. That must give way to an increased width. Are there some downsides to this? More vulnerable plastics or tank?
Hi Jason, as a Tiger 900 Rally Pro owner, I can tell you that the engine is wider, as you are comparing a twin with a triple. However the widest and most fragile part of Tiger is the petrol tank. It's made from thin aluminium and is very wide at the front, presumably to help with weather protection. It definitely needs the upper crash protectors, as those wide points are very exposed to damage if the bike is dropped.
I really appreciate your detailed reviews! Regarding the "drop test rating" - I'm older, not very tall (5'-6") - so this is a big issue for me. I love the Yamaha T7 - but your comments about it's top heaviness and difficult pick up, really chase me away. Then the Honda CB500X gets real high on my list... but I feel like it's a bit too low-powered. How does the Tiger compare to these two in size / drop test / general top-heaviness?
Another tip of the hat (helmet) for having honoured Christian's memory. I also have a question regarding the Tiger 900 as a current owner of an 800 XCX. How are the fit and finish of the welds on the frame? I have two riding buddies, one with the 900 Rally and another with a 900 Rally Pro. Their bikes were bought when the 900s first came out, the fit and finish of the frame welds on both those bikes look much less refined than those of my 800. Hopefully, Triumph has addressed this concern.
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The only thing I believe you can add to your reviews, is talking about seat height vs. your height/inseam and the approachability. I'm 5'8 with a 31" inseam so I tend to look at bikes from that perspective. While I'm not necessarily expecting to flatfoot on both sides on any given bike, how much of a stretch it could be is some worthy info.
Much respect for having honored Christian's memory. Great video as always, very appreciated
What happened to Christian? Motorcycle fatality?
@@AOL0321 yes
@@francescoporcari8597 So sorry to hear. I loved his videos too. Did it happen in Europe?
@@AOL0321 not so sure about that
@@AOL0321 Yeah.. in Romania..
Cristian's passing is absolutely heartbreaking. Be safe out there everyone!
RIP Cristian
What the hell? Did he really pass? I am shocked
@@BehindYouG I read on another YT channel that Christian had a road accident with his GS last July.
@@gillesgenete9598 Wow... That's so sad!
No! Aww, I am so sad to hear of Cristian's passing. That is terrible news. His reviews were always really great and informative and he came across as a really nice guy! Shocked. RIP Cristian. Condolences to his family and friends.
Thank you for the memory of Cristian. You are a good man.
RIP Cristian
Can’t believe you watch Cristian’s video too. Apart from your motorcycle expertise, you’ve also showed us your emotional and spiritual side as a real man. Good on you!
I own a 900 rally pro. Previous bikes are 1290 ktm and Tenere 700. Found the T7 was to small for long touring and taking my wife. The ktm was great for touring, however too big off-road. You have nailed this review. I wanted to have one bike that did it all. The 900 rally pro has done it.
awesome
Old reply but what's your thought today on this 900 Rally vs the straight GT for mostly road. Is the more off-road suspension king still
Thank you for dedicating this to Cristian, he was an amazing person.
I am a Romanian I was and I still am proud of Cristian and his accomplishments. I discovered ADV motorcycle through him.
Also you are doing an amazing job with your videos and I learn a lot from them. Keep up with what you do.
Well said. RIP Cristian.
Cristian was the type of presenter that made me feel like I knew him as a personal friend after watching enough of his videos. It actually feels a little strange to me that I'm out on the road and Cristian isn't, and never again will be.
Ian, you are my go-to for bike reviews. Good coverage of specs plus how the specs show themselves in the real world on road and trail. No mindless blathering, chat about the weather, the beauty of Spain (England, Italy) like the Brit reviews. Very nice, thanks!
I couldn't believe Cristian passed away. He's been such a charismatic and full of joy man. Never thought it could happen to such an experienced rider... Rest in peace Cristian.
Thank you for the tribute and another great review. Take care from Moldova.
WOW! I bought the 2020 Rally Pro. I can't tell you how many videos I've watched as I did my "due diligence". Your summary of the Tiger was so informative. Great job. I'm an "old guy" (almost 67) and I wanted this bike before I get to where I can't ride anymore. I'm not a hard charger of a rider but I do like comfort and tech. This bike is a joy to ride. Just an after thought. Feb. 2021 I offered $14,400 and my offer was accepted. I'm not a good hoarse trader so take it for what its worth :)
I had my mind set on an Africa Twin but after hearing the Tiger 1200/900, I'm glad I didn't get one yet. Now I'm tosses between the Tiger 1200 and the 900. Is the 900 enough for highway use? I really don't think I need the weight of the 1200 but the power I wouldn't mind having in reserve. Also, is the Pro really worth the cost over the plain Rally?
You mentioned the africa twin dct might sway you to buy instead of the Rally Pro. You didn't mention the quick shift is butter smooth at all speeds and downshifts are great as well. If you just dont want to shift or pull in the clutch at a stop then yes its dct . But to me this makes it really close and with all the other advantages I would give the nod to the Rally Pro.
Wonderful review! I also own an R 1250 GSA with the factory lowered suspension. I owned an R 1200 GS with the factory lowered suspension prior to my GSA. I'm not an off-road rider, but I just love adventure bikes for their flexibility and choice of top loading panniers. Between the GS and the GSA, I purchased an R1200 RT. Wonderful as a 2-up touring machine. I'm sure some will vehemently disagree with me, but I never did like that bike, or how it handled. I swear my GS/GSA turned in quicker, which makes no sense in that they have a 19" front wheel vs. a 17" front wheel on the RT. I stopped by my local Triumph dealer over a year ago and immediately fell in love with the Tiger 900 GT Pro. Just lifting it up off of the kickstand was a pleasure compared to the GSA. Moving it around the showroom/garage is like moving a Schwinn bicycle vs. the GSA. Then I made the expensive mistake of taking it for a test ride. It just felt like a feather. I recently lost my "riding buddy"/"passenger" to cancer, so I will no longer be touring 2-up. For me, the Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro is the PERFECT bike. While the OEM windscreen is "okay" I wanted a little more wind protection. After a ton of research, I recently went with the National Cycle VStream Short Dark Tint Windscreen P/N N20609. Think I'd prefer the clear version, but they don't make the short in clear. It looks great on my black bike, provides better windscreen protection than the OEM windscreen and the dart tint has not bothered me at all, as I never look through a motorcycle windscreen, but instead, look over it. As a side note, you can leave the small side windscreen wings on and they look great. I'm 5' 9" with a 29.5 inseam, turned 70 over 6 months ago and have been riding for 56 years.. If you're a "senior rider," don't quit riding, but instead, consider downsizing just a tiny bit. Do yourself a favor and look at the Triumph Tiger 900 GT series if you're intimidated by the taller adventure bikes on the market today. Thanks again for the wonderful reviews you do on UA-cam.
60 here. Thanks for this great advice! I sat on a 900 and 1200 today, but bikes.
Sorry to hear about you losing your buddy/pillion. Hope you're doing well.
@@Spadunked Thank you so much...
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Thank you for honoring Christian by opening with his memory. What a class thing to do.
R.I.P. Christian.
RIP
I have a 2021 Triumph Tiger Rally Pro. After I rode it for 6 months on pavement and off, I attended the 2 day off-road course at the BMW Performance Center near Spartanburg SC (which I highly recommend to others). Students must use a BMW motorcycle for the course, so I chose the F850 GS Adventure as it came closest in weight and displacement as my Tiger. I found this review to be very accurate regarding the qualities of the Tiger, and will emphasize the need to tune the suspension to your primary use. Also, I did give the F 850GSA quite the workout during the 2 day course and have yet to encounter anything riding in the real world to exceed the challenges in training at the BMW school. we had limited on-pavement experience at the school (a few laps around the BMW track). I found the Tiger to feel lighter and better balanced than the BMW, and more comfortable on or off the seat for my 6’2” 215lb self. Granted, I did have to add some modest risers to my Tiger and would have needed them if I bought the BMW. I think the BMW 850 is the closest competitor to the Tiger. Equipped with comparable packages to get most of the same features, the cost is nearly identical. I think the Tiger is overall a better value.
You have the best bike reviews on UA-cam… full stop. Keep it up!
Respect for dedicating a video to Christian. He really deserved it!
absolutely
Got mine two months ago. I did a 250 mile ride today - Tucson to Tortilla Flats. The perfect bike for me. Previous bikes…R75/5; R75/7; Bonneville, R1250RT.
Thanks for adding the memory of Christian. 😢 Didn’t know about it until now. Great video as usual
I have had my Rally Pro for 1,000 miles now. I usually don't watch reviews of bikes I already own but you nailed it! Great review.
The algorithm pushed Revzilla's video on this bike, but when I saw your review existed I immediately closed out that video and came to yours! Your honesty and authenticity is what we want! Keep it up!
So nice of you for paying tribute in memory of Christian Predoi. Thanks a lot and God bless you!
Been looking for which bike to buy. Your channel is the best as far as channels go. Keep it up.
Just for Cristian Predoi’s memory I subscribed…🥲 One of the best you tubers out there passed doing what we all love doing riding motorcycles anywhere on Earth… Thanks again kind Sir. I was watching your vids here and there but just for that gesture you won me over. Not that you needed another subscriber hahah And again may HE blesses you and your family for this!! Take care from Arizona
RIP Cristian.
Your review was among many reviews that convinced me to buy a '22 Tiger 900 Rally Pro. I'm loving the hell out of this bike, and I'm so very much looking forward to getting it out in the mountains of Colorado this summer. Great video!
Thank you for remembering Cristian. Much appreciated. Kudos.
A worthwhile tribute to Cristian and a very comprehensive review of what looks to be a great adventure bike. Thank you.
I own a Triumph Tiger 800 2017 XCA with 86000km. Zero problem an still going very well. That's my 2nd Tiger 800. I had to learn to operate the engine for off-road riding cause of the low torque feel. But, now, i have a lot of fun... on the road... lol... it's like an Street Triple. Very stable, agressive handling... an stable to the edge. I looking to change an I've watch your review of the Desert X... an it seems a very option for me.
Thanks for your review
Thanks!
Probably the "jack of all trades, and master of many" bike in the current market!
Only complain is the price, most would go the more affordable route with T7 or Africa Twin, or just pony up and get the big GS.
PS: Rest in peace Predoi.
the Africa Twin cost more than my Rally did.
Jack of all trades, master of none!
I bought the Tiger 900 base as a second bike and got a demo price of 10k. Could not be more impressed for the money..
@@TakeTimeToRide yessir thay are great bikes!
@@theunheardprophet4315 .."often better then a master of one" the rest of the quote
We miss Cristi also... Thank you for remembering him!
Super insightful review for the Triumph Tiger 900 rally. I am enjoying your reviews so damn much, first I think okay I want this bike, then I watch another review nope I want that bike. Long time Rider like many of us, looking to get back into it... and fill that two-wheel void in my life. Keep it up! Your reviews are super informative and enjoyable to watch. Thanks!!
Thanks for another great video and for honouring Christian’s memory in your intro. Your videos are looking much smoother now and I’m enjoying your music picks. Curious to know how the Rally would compare to the Rally Pro. Keep it up 👌
For $10 and some aluminum I put on an red LED light strip just under my plate. Connected to my brake lights and voila! Very little current draw and a very visible brake light. Thought I might like the Africa Twin now I want to ride this. Thanks for all you effort.
Excellent review! You are a man of integrity, thank you, I support you whole heartedly.
Yes!!! I’ve been waiting for the Tiger. Another great video. Thank you so much for such a nice and detailed work!
Another excellent review! Thanks a bunch! I've ridden only on pavement the Pro variant and was impressed. Such an accomplished bike!
Sounds like an amazing motorcycle I think it’s pretty cool that the T7 gets mentioned such a great bike
I recently watched Christian's review of the Tiger 800 xca. He was a great guy that had a passion for adventure and who loved his job....he will be missed for sure. I thoroughly enjoyed this review. The Tiger 900 is an awesome bike, maybe a bit pricey, but a lot of things come as standard. Thanks Big Rock Moto👍
thanks
I owned a 2015 Tiger 800XCx for 5 years. Your review indicated that Triumph has listened to the owners niggles and designed a better bike, not that the Gen 2 Tigers ( 2015-2020) were not great ADV bikes. With regard to twitchy handling, I found that adding about 20-30 Kg of luggage made the Tiger 800 track better on sand. I did fit a steering damper to my Tiger, but I am not sure that it was necessary. The only thing I don't like about the 900 is the 30% price rise.
Best video review I've seen of any the Tiger 900 variants. Fantastic.
Great review and enjoy the comparison between the different bikes. Keep up the great work.
Metrics, charts and Graphs matter!! Really like the detailed comparisons cuz thats what most people need when coming down to a buying decision.
I"m new to the channel, it's fun watching our progression as a 'tuber. Great content, thank you.
Well balanced review thanks. I'm trying to get more ppl to buy this bike as it is underrated off-road. I have put 10,000ks of hard off-road riding on mine and it continues to put a smile on my face every time I crack the throttle. I upload videos of my rides so if you want to see a Tiger 900 ridden hard have a look. I don't care about subscribers just want to show ppl how good these bikes are off-road.
This is my next bike! Great review, confirms many things for me. Thanks for this excellent review bruh!
Glad I could help!
Just new about Cristian in this video. I have no words. Great video and thanks for the doing it in memory of Cristian.
Excellent video again! You are an up-and-comer on these excellent reviews! Your video and audio quality is so good already! Much better than some other channels with 5 times the subscriber count. RIP Mr. Predoi, I will miss your content!
Wow, thanks!
Three things that caused me to sell my 900 RP.
Vibes put my hands to sleep, bike switches back to on road settings, plastic and frame rails hit inside of my legs while standing(deal breaker for me)
Shame because it’s a beautiful bike.
Thanks for sharing
The only credible review channel
Excellent review. I'm seriously thinking about getting a Rally Pro
Love the dedication, perfect way to do it. What a great guy Cristian was.
Thank you from the UK for a brilliant review.. factual, informed, clear and thorough
I particularly like your “drop test”.. maybe better described as a “lift test”..?
Keep up the great work
Excellent review dude ! very detailed and informative !
Man, your videos are getting better and better, not only that your opinion is trustworthy. I also own a brand new GSA and a KTM Super Duke 1290 R
I maybe selling one of them to buy a Yamaha 700, the hard part is, which one do I sell?!
LOL
Nice review, as always. I have a suggestion. When you do the drop/lift test and give it a rating, it would be nice to see the other bikes you have rated in the same way. That might become cumbersome or busy to show on screen, so maybe link to a chart or something in the description?
Cheers!
I liked your final thoughts especially after watching the Competition chapter. I think bike reviewers focus too much on "this bike is good for onroad and this bike os good for offroad" only. But in reality all ADV bikes are on that sliding scale where they can do both... but its a matter of how well they do one (onroad or offroad) at the compromise of the other. Your final thoughts explained this well
thanks
Great video! Extremely informative and helps in making an informed buying decision. Especially pointing out where it sits between the T7 and the 1250 GS. Thank you.
thanks
Great review 👍 very complete, I never was drawn to Triumph very much this review has changed a lot of my misbelief.
Love the pickup test!
Really appreciate all the detail, the quantitative comparison with competitors, and the fast-paced info-packed delivery. Looking forward to your follow-up review.
I have a 800XCX and it’s been very reliable bike. The only other bikes I’ve been interested in is a new 900 or African twin. So I appreciate your review. Sad to hear about Cristian passing RIP.
Great review of an interesting bike that I wasn’t really considering. For now I will hang on to my R1200GSA (and keep the order for the Tenere 700) but this is a real compelling option. Keep up the great content, your unbiased opinions are appreciated
thanks
Shocked to hear about Cristian. RIP.
Thanks for sharing the news.
Great review! Having owned the RP, I think you were spot on. RIP Cristian.
This is a great review for me. I am selling my 2022 Triumph Speedmaster because I am moving to a country with lousy roads and I will be doing more off roading, so a dual sport (ADV) is the way to go. I also have a BMW f800gs, and I thought about getting another BMW, but I've been researching these Triumphs, and your review is spot on. I love my Triumph and the way they built my bike, so I am now going to purchase this 900 Rally Pro because I just don't need a 1200cc bike where I will be living, but I don't want to drop to a 600cc or even the RE Himalayan 450. I would consider the 650, but that's not yet available to even try. Thanks for a great review.
Ian every single video gets better and better...digging the oceans 11-esq tunes.
glad you noticed!
Enjoyed this review- the best I've seen on the Tiger 900. Thanks.
Thanks
I test rode it. The heat on my legs was a deal breaker for me. But I've got a 36" inseam so it's probably only an issue if you have long legs. I loved the engine.
Always enjoy your videos, thanks for the content.
What are your thoughts between triumph 900 rally pro and the norden 901? I can't find any comparison videos between the two.
I have owned a few triumphs with the three cylinder engine. Man, when they are on the pipe, that engine is musical. Love that sound! On long trips on my 2001 Tiger, if the road was clear I'd slow down and lug the engine, then punch it just to hear it growl 🐯🐯
Just had to make one more comment after watching all the rest of the tiger reviews yours is by far the best and fairest. I truly love this bike and try to find things wrong with it but just can't. I call it the perfect Swiss Army bike
Great review. You definitely go into a lot more detail than most other motorcycle reviews and I do appreciate it.
I had a chance to test ride a Rallye Pro at the recent IMS show in Central Florida and I could not agree with you more. Although I was not able to take it off road, the on road experience and performance were very impressive.
Keep up the great work you’re doing.
I am a big fan of triples but this one does have vibes and you don't have to go 100 mph. Bottom line is it's just a personal experience. The older model was so creamy smooth I noticed the vibes immediately.
Great review. What I'm interested in is ergonomics, as in knee angle and position of the foot pegs in relation to the hips as well as seat height compared to the other bikes mentioned.
The dashboard has been highly criticized for its unorthodox RPM gauge that is doubled and extends downwards with increasing revs. It seems it didn't annoy you enough to mention it.
The integrated navigation is a great feature unless you have to use a proprietary/inferior Triumph app to enable it. If that's the case mentioning USB charging ports or accessible connectors will become important. Also available space on the handlebar for phone holders, unless a navi bar can be added.
People may expect the BMW F850GS to have an engine built in Germany for its price point, but I also expect the Tiger 900 to have an engine built in the UK at its price point and not in Thailand as is the case now. 😋
good points. i didn't like the tach, but I git used to it fast
Great review I love all your content! Do you think you could take some time to do a review of the headlights at night or say how good the output is?
And if auxiliary light is probably needed. Thank you!!
I've ridden my Rally Pro often at night, the light is very bright and throws a nice, wide beam for excellent visibility. The OEM auxiliary lights do an excellent job and can be pivoted to compensate for load or desired pattern. My only complaint, the headlight is small so oncoming cars have pulled out in front of me probably thinking I was car much further down the road, I've gotten used to it and will turn on the auxiliary lights to help eliminate that confusion.
Drop scores bro?! That's brilliant.
Another great video, sounds like the T9 here would be an idea fit for my week long tours with my MTB on the back. At least, as long as that new subframe can withstand the weight of my bicycle and rack. Oh, FYI I got hit with ~4 UA-cam ads by 22 minutes, was a bit annoying. Not sure if you are manually or automatically placing the ads but an FYI! Keep up the nice work on the channel!
Very nice of you to mention Cristian Predoiu, great moto vloger who die in a terrible motocycle accident this year.
Thank you for great video!
Excellent review. Too bad you didn't ride a bike with the very good quick shifter. I purchased a GT Pro in May and rode it 10,000 miles this summer. The low seat height works for me at 5'8". Fuel range is outstanding. Range is better than 300 miles when ridden on twisty, mountain, back roads.
Thanks for the interesting comparisons.
So far, I haven’t heard anything to make me want to part with my 2016 DCT Africa Twin, complete with nice comfy seat, grab handles and luggage rack.
Cheers from the UK
Barry🏍
Seat on AT is a torture :-)
Being quite a bit older than you, I downsized from a 1200GSA to a Tiger 900. I’d describe it as a 90% scale GSA, with equal quality and easier to push around.
YES> agreed
I was able to Ride one for a day with Jeff Staton. I was also able to ride the 850 also, the 900 is a special bike and anyone who gets one will be happy, plenty of power and the Handling is amazing such a good bike. My Bikes 2014 Aprilia Caponord 1200 2016 GSXR 1000 ( track mostly) 2021 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT
Hey Ian, a classy gesture for Christian.
I have a couple of questions:
1. Which one will you recommend for a 90-10 road rider, the Tiger or the Africa Twin. (The insight from your AT video regarding the helmet banging with the pillion was priceless coz my trips almost always will include my wife)
2. When I test drove the Tiger 900 there was a slight buzz on the handle while cruising at 60-70 kph? Did you feel it?
3. Also was feeling uncomfortable because of the heat on the legs from the engine. Did you feel it or is it an India/tropical problem?
4. Looking through the windscreen the road was looking warped, unlike the AT. Is that a problem?
You are the perfect person to answer this since you are already familiar with AT. Thanks in advance.
Excelent music and filming intros, congratulations
One more time, love the vídeo 🔥 props from 🇵🇹
Great review! comprehensive but concise. Great work for new adventure bikers such as myself.
Being an owner of a Tiger 900 RallyPro (at only 5’6” it is tall), my initial wish list bike was the T700 but it was too tall, I think you have given it a justifiably good and correct review.
I can confirm that it is very good at speed on the German Autobahns, as I have been working in Munich for the past 8 months, I can also confirm that high mileage rides are comfortable. I did an 800mile ride from Munich to the midlands UK non-stop (other than fuel and channel tunnel) over 15 hours without any issues, which at 59 years old is a definite bonus.
I cannot state what its credentials are off-road because I have no experience off-road and therefore have been reluctant to try it, especially on the road focus tyres it comes with - that said I have seen many reviews with competent riders giving it a good seeing to, therefore I would say the only limit to off-road capabilities are rider limits.
Really happy with my choice and all I need now is a road bike for blasting around local on and a small capacity off-road bike to increase my abilities 😂
Ian
Back on Two Wheels
thanks for chiming in!
Why go to the Midlands? 😆
@@MarkSDCA my home is there, so it seemed the perfect choice 🤔
Very classy shout out to Christian. Great review! It's a beautiful functional bike. However, that price is a killer for me. I don't want to drop that beautiful bike and rough it up at $17 grand. The complexity of these bikes in my opinion is driving the price up with more things to go wrong. Just sayin'
Buy used man. Only way I get around my OCD is buying used.
Good advice Joe! Thank you for watching!!
@@JoeMama-vj8es I agree. I always Buy Used. You can find some Great Deals on used Bikes with low Mileage. People Buy them thinking they will really use them. But then they miss their Air Conditioning or something else. They will let them sit in the Garage a Year. Then Sell them for a Bargain with low Miles. That’s how I got my R1200GS.
Nice review on the Tiger 900 Rally. I traded in my KTM 690R in last spring and purchased the 900 Rally Pro. Your evaluation is spot on. OEM crash bars look great, but they do a poor job protecting the bike. I have dropped my bike twice now and each time the bars going around the front of the tank have bent and scratched the tank. The steel seems soft and the weak point is where they join to the bracket below the front beak. I wish I would have known this before I made the investment on the bars. I am recovering from my last fall due to the bike falling on my left leg pinning me under the motorcycle. I was in some real pain because the Passenger peg bracket on the left side comes out to a point from the frame and was pierced into the side of my knee. I was fortunate to be riding with a friend who was able to get the bike off my leg. I was unable to get bike off my leg myself due to the injury to my knee. I would take the passenger brackets off the bike if it weren't for the need to keep them there for the pannier rack attachments. The pannier racks are OEM also, so not sure if there is an aftermarket option to get rid of the peg brackets. Low source of aftermarket accessories right now for this bike. I paid $175 for larger foot pegs from SW-Motech. I really like the Tiger 900 Rally Pro and would buy it again. Just wish I would have known about the OEM crash bars and pannier bracket weakness. Usually OEM parts are desired due to their being engineered for the specific bike. I really enjoy your channel.
thanks for chiming in, valuable info here
I have the upper and lower bars on my 2020 Rally Pro. I have dropped it on the left side in the mud at about five mph-no damage. Fully loaded for touring (about 100lbs) I dropped it on the right side on pavement, which scuffed the bars a little and snapped off the end of the front brake lever (still rideable).
Neither event bent the bars or affected the tank in any way. Just my two cents.
Ugh, now I'm torn between 3 bikes:
- Tiger 900 Rally Pro
- Scrambler 1200XE (used, 19-20)
- 1290 Super Adventure-T (used, 2017)
Thank you for your insights on the 900 Rally!
scrambler. no one else has it. unique! I want one of those.
Best review yet. New camera?
Wow he passed? I really enjoyed his video! No wonder i haven't seen any lately. That's really too bad. He seemed like a great guy and lots of fun and a wonderful window to Europe as well.
Gutted to hear about Cristian loved his reviews my thoughts go out to his family, friends and loved ones
Thanks for the review, i pick up my new Rally Pro tomorrow. Very excited.
I haven't been a subscriber for long but your reviews and recommendations are as interesting as they are well put together. Also, congrats on what seems like a new 360° camera (?) - some very fine riding shots in this video! Looking forward to what you can do with that in the future.
Btw - I don't even own a motorcycle or a license. I just came across the channel while getting riled up to get started on two wheels next year. Thanks for your work and always safe travels!
thanks for being here
Great review, you answered all my questions. Thanks.
Great vid, changed my mind about Triumphs
Excellent review, you are getting really good at this format.
One question. You mentioned the compactness of the Tiger’s engine top to bottom as compared to the Tenere. That must give way to an increased width. Are there some downsides to this? More vulnerable plastics or tank?
Hi Jason, as a Tiger 900 Rally Pro owner, I can tell you that the engine is wider, as you are comparing a twin with a triple. However the widest and most fragile part of Tiger is the petrol tank. It's made from thin aluminium and is very wide at the front, presumably to help with weather protection. It definitely needs the upper crash protectors, as those wide points are very exposed to damage if the bike is dropped.
I really like your reviewing style, very comprehensive. Thank you! 😊
I really appreciate your detailed reviews! Regarding the "drop test rating" - I'm older, not very tall (5'-6") - so this is a big issue for me. I love the Yamaha T7 - but your comments about it's top heaviness and difficult pick up, really chase me away. Then the Honda CB500X gets real high on my list... but I feel like it's a bit too low-powered. How does the Tiger compare to these two in size / drop test / general top-heaviness?
Another tip of the hat (helmet) for having honoured Christian's memory. I also have a question regarding the Tiger 900 as a current owner of an 800 XCX. How are the fit and finish of the welds on the frame? I have two riding buddies, one with the 900 Rally and another with a 900 Rally Pro. Their bikes were bought when the 900s first came out, the fit and finish of the frame welds on both those bikes look much less refined than those of my 800. Hopefully, Triumph has addressed this concern.
Small typo in the title "triunph'
Great vid!!