Gerwin Bergsma well fuck. Time to hang it up, subliminal. You had a cursed in your video. It’s all over for you now :P also, this video refuses to play on my phone :’(
Hey Subliminal, I’ve been trying to watch this video in between the hundreds of videos I’ve been watching over the last two days. Only this one is not working. Just an endless loading circle.
If I had one of these ships, I'd name it "Lazer Beak". It could also be used as a search and rescue for picking up one person you don't quite know or trust just yet.
Thank you as always! Funny thing happened where this (and only this video) would not play on either of my two iOS devices. Works fine on my windows desktop. Confirmed again before making this comment.
i just wanted to reach out and give my gratitude, i really appreciate the hard work you do puttin out the vids, i followed the loadout you rec on a few ships, the hawk and tana, and sht bro it made a 100% difference, i come to trust and rely on your input, im not that book smart, for me trying to learn all the specs on the systems, im pulling my hair out and i aint got much left, so THANK YOU, i wish i could give all you youtubers some $$ for all the work you guys do, BUT im just another bum, i lease im not dumpster diving in your trash, haa! speaking of dumpster dive, i was bounty hunting in one of the asteroid fields and noticed all the space station junk floating, be nice to explore all that, i tried, they didn't put that kind of play in YET!! cool, peace
PSA: if you want to get a Scoundrel Pack, do it soon. With the Mercury Star Runner slated for release in 3.11 the current Scoundrel Pack will almost certainly go the way of the UEE Exploration 2948 pack when the MSR releases. As to the video, and as a massive Hawk fanboy, I will start by saying you are absolutely right. The Hawk's EMP has been very much nerfed into oblivion - however, the nerf is universal. It hit the Warlock and the Sentinel just as hard, and the Hawk's half-as-long EMP cooldown vs. the Warlock more than makes up for the lower damage, IMHO. That is very much a matter of taste though. I would rather have a weaker EMP available more often than a stronger one I only get to use once per engagement because of how long the cooldown is. The larger problem with the Hawk is the fact that, as you said, you lose a wing, you lose a gun. It is not hard to wind up with only the 2 size 1 guns after just a couple CS1 or CS2 bounties. The total HP of the Hawk is actually outstanding - twice that of the less maneuverable Arrow, and with 2 shields too - but the HP is spread out across a dozen "parts" and individually each is very, very fragile. I think once the Talon lands, sticking a Mirage + Tevarin shield on the Hawk will make it nigh-unstoppable, because it'll provide full ballistic block, keeping all those fragile parts from breaking off until you lose a shield face, by which point anything short of a Caterpillar should be very dead unless you're just a horrible pilot. This is an option an Arrow cannot ever replicate due to its single shield. As for the Gladius, I've never considered it to be a good light fighter. It has the guns of an Arrow with the hit box of a Sabre and less maneuverability than either. The Gladius isn't bad, it's just worse than every single other light fighter in existence. And its atmospheric handling in 3.10 is horrendous compared to the Arrow or even the Sabre, a medium fighter. The Gladius can be described as "Like _____, but with less _____." You can fill in virtually any vaguely comparable ship and any aspect in those blanks and it fits. In any case, comparing the Hawk to the Gladius isn't fair for the Gladius. They're both light fighters, but the Gladius is just a bad ship. At least the Hawk HAS some "pros" to discuss. Anyhow, for right now, the Hawk is in a bad place. How that changes once we have a shield we can steal from a Talon will be very interesting, though.
Hey Sub would you consider an overview/build guide to the Saber Raven? I would love todo the research on it myself but being a full time student means my time is very limited for such endeavors. Also, could you look into doing a comparison to past v present on EMPs? Oh and one last thing, a gaming mouse pad with the prowler on it 😉. Love the channel man and keep up the hard work.
This is really excellent, thank you. What is the exact range of the EMP? I keep hearing about the EMP nerf but I was not around for the original usage all I know is I can barely ever get it to function properly when ships are actually in motion. It seems to not be worth the trade off for missiles I mean after all is it better to stall your enemy out or just destroy them at this point?
Min radius is 250m Max radius is 750m charging from 0 to 100% is 12 seconds cooldown is also 12 seconds. The EMP nerf was made in a way that you hit the shields first before hitting the ship so you need to have a face shield down to actually have effect on the ship with EMP And unfortunatly its also very sensitive to server desync
I wouldn't have ding it over the EMP for the same reason I wouldn't have recommended it when EMP was OP. That is subject to change, and there is every reason to believe that CIG will make it useful.
Yeah that’s a fair point. It’s like you say in the right hands it’s a good fighter. If used in the right application it can be quite viable. Against other light fighters I don’t know that it really stands up. It’s been a while since I have flown it.
Could you do a video or link me to one of your videos for the 3.10 current best solo fight ship for dog fights? especially if it will fit in the Carrack
I think they could make the emp to a directed weapon instead and get it some more rang, but sure balancing something like a emp is a hard work and we strill in a alpha.
The sentinel will have his EMP removed for the EMp missiles its supposed to have And distortion weapons are already ingame EMP is indeed hard work but they had a nice fix for it in my opinion . You needed to down a shieldface first before your EMP would actually affect the components but I think in this patch EMP is turned off because it only affects shields now
This is another one of those ships I really like, but then has one big issue with it. For the Hawk, it is that they refused modularity so hard and for some reason kept saying that no, the rear pod can ONLY be used as a prisoner pod, we won’t give you a cargo or proper bed or whatever else in it, you can only use it for prisoners. A bit of wasted potential, otherwise this could’ve easily made a real argument against other light fighters, not just with the EMP, but also just having the ability to do box missions or go on a bit of an expedition as well. But I guess they didn’t want any customisation on it, so we’re stuck with the prisoner pod. Stil a 10/10 design though, it’s a real looker
I mean I don't have a single favorite fighter. Among light fighters, I actually like the Avenger Warlock a LOT better in 3.10 than I did in 3.9 or 3.8, so that's probably my favorite in this class. I used to like the Hawk much better, but then I tried a Buccaneer and got through 37 CS1 and CS2 bounties, in a row, without taking any hull damage and I fell in love with it. Now I'd say the Warlock just because I like having a bed and space for boxes. For a medium fighter, the Tana. The missiles are nice, but the 1SCU cargo grid is even nicer (boxing up mineables FTW) and the view is absolutely amazing. For a heavy fighter, not like we have a lot of options, so the Vanguard I guess. An honorable mention to the Cutlass Blue, though. CIG may not consider it a "heavy fighter" but I do, and it's a damn good one. Nothing wrong with the Sabre, of course. I've just not been super impressed with stealth yet, and if you aren't factoring in stealth, then a Cutty Black has the same guns, about the same handling, larger size but more hull, more armor, a larger shield pool, and slower regen but it's constant regen, all with ample missiles. For almost half the price, a Cutty is just straight up better than a Sabre unless/until they make stealth have more impact.
Banu Defender is the Name, and hunting miners is my Game! Banu Defender is my favorite fighter because it is so unique. It is a handcrafted work of art and when flying it I really feel like I fly an ancient alien artefact.
@@SubliminaLstv Ah.. I see.. That's really interesting. By the way I have a question, What do you think of the 3.17.2 wipe.. I Was really pissed because I can barely make money and I'm gonna lose my only ships
The real problem with this ship is that it loses engines like nothing. Tested it in arena but can't compare how it sustain damage to a gladius or an arrow. Here you get transformed into a POD in second after you lose a shield
Yeah I know premiere got the proxies mixed up. Didn't show up during editing only after rendered. 50 patrons watched and only one caught it after the video was released lol. You should have been watching the numbers like everyone else. 😂
it's MAX nibble, doesn't need the spin speed tho cos i feel it's fast enough, hawk has a Belly mount for Future tech i would assume. if you hadn't noticed it under the cockpit. you stopped saying on the flipside.... >...< after seeing TENET that could make more sense.
I really enjoy your channel and have firm plans to support it when I get the chance. I was excited for a moment when you showed a new Ships of the Verse line; but then I was sad when the Reliant series was not part of it. I know you don't want to like that ship, and it's probably going to suck once they over-nerf us missile throwing primitives; but I actually love it so much I'm considering looking for a gray market with lifetime insurance for it. Don't worry, I'll still definitely contribute, but if you get a lot of these maybe consider adding it? Side note: Your choice of comparison ships for the Tana focused on it's role as a dog fight participant: in which it's a sturdy participant, but never really a list topper. I see it as a flying bed, locker, and weapon rack to do missions with a higher chance of surviving random combat with a low combat skill requirement. I expect to fly mine with an NPC crew member, and hope that crew member can do things like drop me off and pick me up from missions, maybe even providing some 'air' cover. (ie when 'hacking' com sats).
I'm not so sure about that. The Arrow still has missiles and those certainly dont require any skill atm. But yeah, the Arrow is less durable and because of that you need to be more evasive. I love both ships but only own a Hawk since it brings and EMP and a prisoner cell with it. That will be great.
It's an air to ground combat ship with an EMP and a prisoner pod? I had read that description on StarCitizen.Tools but since "oriented towards close-range dogfighting" is stated first and "and ground attack missions" is third on its list I just figured it was its tertiary objective and that it's primary focus is a dogfighter. But anyway I'm not saying I hate the ship I just think there are betters ones for less money. And if the EMP was stronger it would make it worth working around its other flaws. All this around its functionality as a dogfighter. Im not interested in shooting ground targets ATM.
Something is wrong with this upload. I’ve been trying to watch it for two days between the hundreds of other UA-cam videos I’ve been watching. Only this one has an endless loading ring.
Just bought this ship by mistake in game. Don't it's literally the worst fighter. Weapons overheat every two seconds and the thing is fast but one solid hit and a weapon is gone
Problem with the sentinel is its EMP is only good against bigger slower ships. Even though it has more range, it's too easy for any smaller fighter to get out of that range. The only thing the Vanguard excel at is being able to get into the fight, take punishment, and turn fast enough to keep weapons on agile ships. But you spend most of the time chasing ships in them, ships that can very easily just speed off into the distance. I really hate fighting ships like the Gladius in Vanguards, because they're just too fast to catch up to if they want to run. Same goes for bounty hunting. Their detection range is huge, like 20Km+. That gives people a lot of time to notice you and react. It just becomes a cat and mouse game, a mouse you can never catch. And if they really want to mess with you, all they have to do is stay traveling in one direction at top speed, put on cruise control, and they can just go do something for 10 minutes and by the time they come back, they'll be 100's of Km away, completely untouchable. The Hawk however, is something that most ships won't be able to outrun.
BE LIKE yo. I need help getting out of prison . Somebody help. I'm. Optimum99 on Star Citizen . Man its no joke. I'm trying to break out bro. Lol I tried getting out yesterday. I made it out even found someone to pick me up off of Aberdeen. But on transit to microtech I glitched out of there ship. After that the guy I was with said oh shit and left. I was stuck in the vast outer space with no where to go. :( And died. :(
@@Ganttura1 Yeah I didn't mine at all. I thought it was a big deal but it isnt really. Oof. I was legit spooked at first tho. Lol thanks man. Have a good day or night
Im glad they nerfed EMP, it was ridiculous to see a haw solo raping a 890j or killing multiple enemies in just a few seconds Edit: Lol the gladius has more damage reduction than the HamerHead... hahaha is Gaijin behind SC stats? Haha
When I first bought the hawk I ended up going against a hammerhead and shutting the entire thing down with 2 EMP strikes. It was indeed ridiculous but now you need to have a faceshield down for the EMP to have affect on the components , otherwise it'll just hit the shields . And with how shields and EMP work now the 890 jump is safe because a single hawk can't down a shieldface on its own and the EMP on the hawk doesn't have enough damage to stay ahead of the shield regen xD
Wow, how they nerf a ship that has no missiles!!? Lmao!!! How about they stop worrying about what complainers think and worry about pushing towards game release. Smh its not even a game yet for you pansies to complain about emps...
I think the problem is that is excels in soo many other areas, that to allow it to have all of those advantages would make it overpowered. Missiles aren't everything. The EMP could use a slight buff in range, but it's not meant to be a direct combat ship, it's meant to be a strafe runner to surprised people then get out of there if they can't kill them quickly enough, and then some back again. It's a bounty hunting ship, so it's meant to swoop in fast to get the drop on ships. With its speed, a more robust EMP would make it too deadly. It could just zoom by a target and with little regard for timing, pop a shield face then release an EMP. And when EMP does work, it's soo OP that the fight is basically over. 30 seconds of sitting there dead in space. You could put 4 size 2 distortions on it, mount the 2 front guns with scatterguns, and even without EMP that does over 3K shield damage and 1200 ballistic damage per second. That's enough to basically solo take on anything under a Carrack, especially if you get the drop on them. At that rate, you could pop pretty much any fighters shields in 2-4 seconds. Heck, at that point, you could literally go full distortion, use EMP, and have enough time to get out of your ship and shoot the pilot yourself or even finish the ship off with something like a rocket launcher.
Got the hawk when it came out and it was fun to fly at first. 1vs1 it could hold it's own against anything even without the emp. However if even a few enemies got involved it turned into a sh**show real quick as the emp never got everyone. Melted it first time around. then got it back in a pack, only to ccu to a nova tank.....unless it fits in a C2 or gets unnerfed..
Updated Load-out ► subliminal.gg/anvil-hawk/
SORRY FOR HURRICANE SHOTS...
NOTE: In the EMP testing the Arrow with no shield face never lost power.
Moreover, you can see a cursor getting into the shot as well, haha.
Gerwin Bergsma well fuck. Time to hang it up, subliminal. You had a cursed in your video. It’s all over for you now :P also, this video refuses to play on my phone :’(
Hey Subliminal, I’ve been trying to watch this video in between the hundreds of videos I’ve been watching over the last two days. Only this one is not working. Just an endless loading circle.
@@jbirdmax Are I've been hearing this from multiple people. Are you on an iDevice?
SubliminaL yes. iCrap Oops, I mean iPhone.
If I had one of these ships, I'd name it "Lazer Beak".
It could also be used as a search and rescue for picking up one person you don't quite know or trust just yet.
"All plans must be approved by CEO." Chris Roberts is that you?
Ha! Seems like an internal joke and direct reference for sure.
the Hawk is a joy to fly. that alone makes it my favorite fighter. but I'll have to check out the band-aid'd hornet.
Have you ever experimented with a squad of hawks?
Thank you as always! Funny thing happened where this (and only this video) would not play on either of my two iOS devices. Works fine on my windows desktop. Confirmed again before making this comment.
The video is not working on my Ipad too
I love this ship, it reminds me of star fox’s ship. It is fun to fly and it is powerful!
How is it powerful?
@@nicksiegfried4906 6x Neutron Repeaters gives you nearly 2k DPS in a light fighter.
SNAP. I thought Star Fox too. Do you play the 1993 Mission 1 music when you fly
i just wanted to reach out and give my gratitude, i really appreciate the hard work you do puttin out the vids, i followed the loadout you rec on a few ships, the hawk and tana, and sht bro it made a 100% difference, i come to trust and rely on your input, im not that book smart, for me trying to learn all the specs on the systems, im pulling my hair out and i aint got much left, so THANK YOU, i wish i could give all you youtubers some $$ for all the work you guys do, BUT im just another bum, i lease im not dumpster diving in your trash, haa! speaking of dumpster dive, i was bounty hunting in one of the asteroid fields and noticed all the space station junk floating, be nice to explore all that, i tried, they didn't put that kind of play in YET!! cool, peace
Awesome vid as always Sub, I had fun helping test the emp, keep being awesome
PSA: if you want to get a Scoundrel Pack, do it soon. With the Mercury Star Runner slated for release in 3.11 the current Scoundrel Pack will almost certainly go the way of the UEE Exploration 2948 pack when the MSR releases.
As to the video, and as a massive Hawk fanboy, I will start by saying you are absolutely right. The Hawk's EMP has been very much nerfed into oblivion - however, the nerf is universal. It hit the Warlock and the Sentinel just as hard, and the Hawk's half-as-long EMP cooldown vs. the Warlock more than makes up for the lower damage, IMHO. That is very much a matter of taste though. I would rather have a weaker EMP available more often than a stronger one I only get to use once per engagement because of how long the cooldown is.
The larger problem with the Hawk is the fact that, as you said, you lose a wing, you lose a gun. It is not hard to wind up with only the 2 size 1 guns after just a couple CS1 or CS2 bounties. The total HP of the Hawk is actually outstanding - twice that of the less maneuverable Arrow, and with 2 shields too - but the HP is spread out across a dozen "parts" and individually each is very, very fragile.
I think once the Talon lands, sticking a Mirage + Tevarin shield on the Hawk will make it nigh-unstoppable, because it'll provide full ballistic block, keeping all those fragile parts from breaking off until you lose a shield face, by which point anything short of a Caterpillar should be very dead unless you're just a horrible pilot. This is an option an Arrow cannot ever replicate due to its single shield. As for the Gladius, I've never considered it to be a good light fighter. It has the guns of an Arrow with the hit box of a Sabre and less maneuverability than either. The Gladius isn't bad, it's just worse than every single other light fighter in existence. And its atmospheric handling in 3.10 is horrendous compared to the Arrow or even the Sabre, a medium fighter. The Gladius can be described as "Like _____, but with less _____." You can fill in virtually any vaguely comparable ship and any aspect in those blanks and it fits. In any case, comparing the Hawk to the Gladius isn't fair for the Gladius. They're both light fighters, but the Gladius is just a bad ship. At least the Hawk HAS some "pros" to discuss.
Anyhow, for right now, the Hawk is in a bad place. How that changes once we have a shield we can steal from a Talon will be very interesting, though.
Vid won’t play on the UA-cam’s
Are you on an iDevice?
The Hawk has a weapon rack. Its good to know :)
Didn't know that until people commented it here.
Where is it?
Why so many shots of the Hurricane and not from the Hawk?
Was wondering if I was the only one that noticed. Looks like a mistake
Yeah my proxy files go mixed up... sorry
have you done or could you do videos on the Mustang Delta? or could you do one on the Esperia Blade
He did one on the Alpha but not the Beta, Delta or Omega
Yeah I had a blast flying this ship last night. Subliminal build too
Hey Sub would you consider an overview/build guide to the Saber Raven? I would love todo the research on it myself but being a full time student means my time is very limited for such endeavors. Also, could you look into doing a comparison to past v present on EMPs?
Oh and one last thing, a gaming mouse pad with the prowler on it 😉. Love the channel man and keep up the hard work.
This is really excellent, thank you. What is the exact range of the EMP? I keep hearing about the EMP nerf but I was not around for the original usage all I know is I can barely ever get it to function properly when ships are actually in motion. It seems to not be worth the trade off for missiles I mean after all is it better to stall your enemy out or just destroy them at this point?
Min radius is 250m
Max radius is 750m
charging from 0 to 100% is 12 seconds
cooldown is also 12 seconds.
The EMP nerf was made in a way that you hit the shields first before hitting the ship so you need to have a face shield down to actually have effect on the ship with EMP
And unfortunatly its also very sensitive to server desync
Nice, every thing is said as allway, super video ;3
You forgot to mention that behind the pilot seat is a gun rack.
I think I'll grab one with AUEC. Arrow or gladius would probably do the job but you know me I gotta have somethin weird
Thanks sir; great information.
There is a weapons rack in the "back-legg", front side of it.
Subliminal, make a custom design for the saber and eclipse! keep up the awesome work
He already did the Sabre
It has a weapon rack behind rear landing chicken leg :)
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I wouldn't have ding it over the EMP for the same reason I wouldn't have recommended it when EMP was OP. That is subject to change, and there is every reason to believe that CIG will make it useful.
I bet the eject feature doesn't include the sucker in the back. I got confused when I saw the Hurricane clips.
Wich Armor are you wearing in the video?
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I wish the would make it a little less prone to completely falling apart
Then it would be OP
Yeah that’s a fair point. It’s like you say in the right hands it’s a good fighter. If used in the right application it can be quite viable. Against other light fighters I don’t know that it really stands up. It’s been a while since I have flown it.
How are the weapons when fixed? Do they weapons properly converge? This seemed to be an issue prior to the Fixed weapon enhancements.
How the Hawk compares to the Talon?
Talon all the way!
Whats that armour u rocking my boy?
wish it had at least 1 or 2 cargo space, like a place to jam a box where the landing gear goes
We need an Anvil Hawk A. The military version with no EMP or prisoner pod.
Can the Hawk cary delivery boxes in the seat?
Could you do a video or link me to one of your videos for the 3.10 current best solo fight ship for dog fights? especially if it will fit in the Carrack
What is the armor used by SL here?
I hope they release the Direhawk variant which loses the EMP but gets another 2 weapon hardpoints. Think the prisoner pod goes as well.
did you skip shield hp?
My favourite used to be the sabre but i found myself flying cutty alot too. And sometimes i roll the freelancer or mis.
yeah i got rid of my hawk in favor of the talon
Can you do one on the ghost
I think they could make the emp to a directed weapon instead and get it some more rang, but sure balancing something like a emp is a hard work and we strill in a alpha.
The sentinel will have his EMP removed for the EMp missiles its supposed to have
And distortion weapons are already ingame
EMP is indeed hard work but they had a nice fix for it in my opinion . You needed to down a shieldface first before your EMP would actually affect the components but I think in this patch EMP is turned off because it only affects shields now
is it small enough to fit in a carrak?
It looks like the answer is no. thats ok.
This is another one of those ships I really like, but then has one big issue with it. For the Hawk, it is that they refused modularity so hard and for some reason kept saying that no, the rear pod can ONLY be used as a prisoner pod, we won’t give you a cargo or proper bed or whatever else in it, you can only use it for prisoners.
A bit of wasted potential, otherwise this could’ve easily made a real argument against other light fighters, not just with the EMP, but also just having the ability to do box missions or go on a bit of an expedition as well. But I guess they didn’t want any customisation on it, so we’re stuck with the prisoner pod.
Stil a 10/10 design though, it’s a real looker
At minimum, let us put a box in the seat, just like we would in a car.
Damn. I keep trying to watch this and suddenly my crappy 100 mbps _supposedly_ high speed Internet slows to a crawl. Freaking Comcast. NOT Comcastic!
Lmao
concast
So what's everyone's favorite fighter?
Mine is the sabre
I mean I don't have a single favorite fighter. Among light fighters, I actually like the Avenger Warlock a LOT better in 3.10 than I did in 3.9 or 3.8, so that's probably my favorite in this class. I used to like the Hawk much better, but then I tried a Buccaneer and got through 37 CS1 and CS2 bounties, in a row, without taking any hull damage and I fell in love with it. Now I'd say the Warlock just because I like having a bed and space for boxes.
For a medium fighter, the Tana. The missiles are nice, but the 1SCU cargo grid is even nicer (boxing up mineables FTW) and the view is absolutely amazing. For a heavy fighter, not like we have a lot of options, so the Vanguard I guess. An honorable mention to the Cutlass Blue, though. CIG may not consider it a "heavy fighter" but I do, and it's a damn good one.
Nothing wrong with the Sabre, of course. I've just not been super impressed with stealth yet, and if you aren't factoring in stealth, then a Cutty Black has the same guns, about the same handling, larger size but more hull, more armor, a larger shield pool, and slower regen but it's constant regen, all with ample missiles. For almost half the price, a Cutty is just straight up better than a Sabre unless/until they make stealth have more impact.
Banu Defender is the Name, and hunting miners is my Game! Banu Defender is my favorite fighter because it is so unique. It is a handcrafted work of art and when flying it I really feel like I fly an ancient alien artefact.
You have to take two shields down before you emp not just one
I'm fairly sure you forgot to mention the weapons rack
Hey! If your ship gets destroyed with a weapon in the rack, do you lose the weapon forever?
"khertu El" had me rolling 😂.. I beleive its pronounced "kartu-al"
No it's actually pronounced like that. According to galactapedia.
@@SubliminaLstv Ah.. I see.. That's really interesting. By the way I have a question, What do you think of the 3.17.2 wipe.. I Was really pissed because I can barely make money and I'm gonna lose my only ships
The real problem with this ship is that it loses engines like nothing. Tested it in arena but can't compare how it sustain damage to a gladius or an arrow. Here you get transformed into a POD in second after you lose a shield
Nice review..
I can’t get this video to play
No sound here.
Cool
"but i dont care"
Subbed.
bruh you messed up the the ships. you are showing the Hurricane while talking about the Hawk.
Yeah I know premiere got the proxies mixed up. Didn't show up during editing only after rendered. 50 patrons watched and only one caught it after the video was released lol. You should have been watching the numbers like everyone else. 😂
@@SubliminaLstv Still great content! keep up the good work!
behind the chicken leg... hahah
it's MAX nibble, doesn't need the spin speed tho
cos i feel it's fast enough,
hawk has a Belly mount for Future tech i would assume. if you hadn't noticed it under the cockpit.
you stopped saying on the flipside.... >...< after seeing TENET that could make more sense.
I really enjoy your channel and have firm plans to support it when I get the chance.
I was excited for a moment when you showed a new Ships of the Verse line; but then I was sad when the Reliant series was not part of it. I know you don't want to like that ship, and it's probably going to suck once they over-nerf us missile throwing primitives; but I actually love it so much I'm considering looking for a gray market with lifetime insurance for it.
Don't worry, I'll still definitely contribute, but if you get a lot of these maybe consider adding it?
Side note:
Your choice of comparison ships for the Tana focused on it's role as a dog fight participant: in which it's a sturdy participant, but never really a list topper.
I see it as a flying bed, locker, and weapon rack to do missions with a higher chance of surviving random combat with a low combat skill requirement. I expect to fly mine with an NPC crew member, and hope that crew member can do things like drop me off and pick me up from missions, maybe even providing some 'air' cover. (ie when 'hacking' com sats).
08:22 "I'm sure I just pissed off a few people but I don't care..." I listened to you say that a few times and it has really.made me laugh
The video is perpetually loading and never playing. You may need to re-upload this video so more can enjoy it.
I'm 100% sure that the arrow has a higher skill level to be very deadly. And it is very deadly at the hands of a super pilot
I'm not so sure about that. The Arrow still has missiles and those certainly dont require any skill atm. But yeah, the Arrow is less durable and because of that you need to be more evasive. I love both ships but only own a Hawk since it brings and EMP and a prisoner cell with it. That will be great.
@@rahlap2449 if you frequent the arena commander you will understand
The cockpit view seems cluttered. Too much stuff in the way. The nose sticks out and you can't see very much below the reticle
hype hype hype
While you have valid points I feel you fundementaly missunderstand what the Hawk is. Its not a dogfighter, its a Ground Pounder.
It's an air to ground combat ship with an EMP and a prisoner pod? I had read that description on StarCitizen.Tools but since "oriented towards close-range dogfighting" is stated first and "and ground attack missions" is third on its list I just figured it was its tertiary objective and that it's primary focus is a dogfighter. But anyway I'm not saying I hate the ship I just think there are betters ones for less money. And if the EMP was stronger it would make it worth working around its other flaws. All this around its functionality as a dogfighter. Im not interested in shooting ground targets ATM.
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Just bought this ship by mistake in game. Don't it's literally the worst fighter. Weapons overheat every two seconds and the thing is fast but one solid hit and a weapon is gone
The Hawk is one of my favorite ships but god is that EMP absolute trash.
i do like the hawk better than the warlock of course. but not more than the sentinel or cutlass blue
Problem with the sentinel is its EMP is only good against bigger slower ships. Even though it has more range, it's too easy for any smaller fighter to get out of that range. The only thing the Vanguard excel at is being able to get into the fight, take punishment, and turn fast enough to keep weapons on agile ships. But you spend most of the time chasing ships in them, ships that can very easily just speed off into the distance. I really hate fighting ships like the Gladius in Vanguards, because they're just too fast to catch up to if they want to run. Same goes for bounty hunting. Their detection range is huge, like 20Km+. That gives people a lot of time to notice you and react. It just becomes a cat and mouse game, a mouse you can never catch. And if they really want to mess with you, all they have to do is stay traveling in one direction at top speed, put on cruise control, and they can just go do something for 10 minutes and by the time they come back, they'll be 100's of Km away, completely untouchable. The Hawk however, is something that most ships won't be able to outrun.
@@peoplez129 Agreed, until they add more game play features. I hear the Starrunner is faster than the gladius !
BE LIKE yo. I need help getting out of prison . Somebody help.
I'm. Optimum99 on Star Citizen .
Man its no joke. I'm trying to break out bro. Lol
I tried getting out yesterday. I made it out even found someone to pick me up off of Aberdeen. But on transit to microtech I glitched out of there ship. After that the guy I was with said oh shit and left.
I was stuck in the vast outer space with no where to go. :(
And died. :(
You can mine for like 5 minutes and get out without a hassle.. I was crimestat 4 with over 12 hours in. Got out in around 30 minutes of mining.
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Yeah I didn't mine at all. I thought it was a big deal but it isnt really. Oof. I was legit spooked at first tho. Lol thanks man. Have a good day or night
@@OPTIMUMELITE Glad to hear you made it out :() o/
Ok, I have one now. Shame on you lol.
seriously weird feet
Kaw.
Im glad they nerfed EMP, it was ridiculous to see a haw solo raping a 890j or killing multiple enemies in just a few seconds
Edit: Lol the gladius has more damage reduction than the HamerHead... hahaha is Gaijin behind SC stats? Haha
When I first bought the hawk I ended up going against a hammerhead and shutting the entire thing down with 2 EMP strikes. It was indeed ridiculous but now you need to have a faceshield down for the EMP to have affect on the components , otherwise it'll just hit the shields .
And with how shields and EMP work now the 890 jump is safe because a single hawk can't down a shieldface on its own and the EMP on the hawk doesn't have enough damage to stay ahead of the shield regen xD
Wow, how they nerf a ship that has no missiles!!? Lmao!!! How about they stop worrying about what complainers think and worry about pushing towards game release. Smh its not even a game yet for you pansies to complain about emps...
I think the problem is that is excels in soo many other areas, that to allow it to have all of those advantages would make it overpowered. Missiles aren't everything. The EMP could use a slight buff in range, but it's not meant to be a direct combat ship, it's meant to be a strafe runner to surprised people then get out of there if they can't kill them quickly enough, and then some back again. It's a bounty hunting ship, so it's meant to swoop in fast to get the drop on ships. With its speed, a more robust EMP would make it too deadly. It could just zoom by a target and with little regard for timing, pop a shield face then release an EMP. And when EMP does work, it's soo OP that the fight is basically over. 30 seconds of sitting there dead in space. You could put 4 size 2 distortions on it, mount the 2 front guns with scatterguns, and even without EMP that does over 3K shield damage and 1200 ballistic damage per second. That's enough to basically solo take on anything under a Carrack, especially if you get the drop on them. At that rate, you could pop pretty much any fighters shields in 2-4 seconds. Heck, at that point, you could literally go full distortion, use EMP, and have enough time to get out of your ship and shoot the pilot yourself or even finish the ship off with something like a rocket launcher.
Got the hawk when it came out and it was fun to fly at first. 1vs1 it could hold it's own against anything even without the emp. However if even a few enemies got involved it turned into a sh**show real quick as the emp never got everyone. Melted it first time around. then got it back in a pack, only to ccu to a nova tank.....unless it fits in a C2 or gets unnerfed..