Only one year and over 300 videos! This channel is amazing! The workmanship is so professional and the topics so interesting! Hope that you get a bit of a rest over the holidays but we look forward to whatever you come up with for next year! Merry Christmas and THANKS! 🎇🎀🎄🎁🎖😘🙏
My mother told me that when I was a preschooler , if a tv commercial came on about a toy I already had, I would run to get the toy and gleefully show the tv that I had one. Ugh.
I found your video couple of months ago & since then i have watched every single video you have posted. Your words are helping me to shape my scattered mindset.. so thankyou so much. Really grateful for your channel ❤
So many interesting concepts, as always! Really a lot to mull over! I think there are some interesting ideas from the book to be sure, although I don’t necessarily agree with them all wholesale. To me, when I regard my own desires with regards to Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, I often find that there is some layer in the Hierarchy which my subconscious is trying to fulfill with the desired objects. Maybe I’m misunderstanding the presentation, but it seems like maybe the author sees the Needs pyramid and the Objects we Desire as very separate categories… Yet if I think of the fashion items or accessories I might be pining after, it’s often for my Fantasy Self. And who is the Fantasy Self but an image of our Actualized Self, the person who has attained their goals and fulfilment and status and Individuation? So I often see it as the Subconscious trying to jump to the end goal without having put in the work, without having recognized the crux of what is truly holding up the Actualized Self. Outfitting that person in order to create that person from without, rather than from within. Similarly, I think of, say, the Uggs. If I were to covet them, which occasionally I do, what am I seeking? To me, they represent coziness and comfort. What are coziness and comfort but an offshoot of Safety and Shelter? So maybe that’s an area I need to examine to see if I’m unaware of feeling some kind of deficit there? (For myself, I actually don’t view them or, likewise, Apple products as Status Symbols, so I’m sure it’s not that. I honestly think that Uggs and Air Pods look a bit silly, but I still think the Uggs look comfy, and the soft brown colour appears calming, so that’s creating an effect. And AirPods are just practical for me, even if I think they look bizarre.) It’s definitely worth looking at our Desires for an underlying motivation beyond “I like it.” It really starts to open up more conversations with ourselves. I recall being on Instagram and following a number of accounts that are about journalling and penmanship and inks and the journals and accessories themselves. The photographs are absolutely *gorgeous* and every time I see them, I’m filled with envy and a wistful look at my desk, imagining if I had 8 journals and this pen or that bottle of ink; I could replicate it myself, I could *have* that. Then I pause and shake myself awake again. I actually have very low tolerance for clutter. I would *hate* having more than one journal. The visual clutter would drive me nuts, the fact that I wouldn’t be using them all would fill me with remorse, and the analysis paralysis over deciding *which one* I *should* use would drive me up the wall! So while I covet those photos and that lifestyle I’m looking at, I also know that I *don’t want it*. So then there’s a new question: What am I seeing that I *do* want? It took a while, but eventually I realised I’m attracted to the idea of being offline, disconnected from devices, more in touch with myself, with analogue tools, with natural materials, and calming, neutral colours. It’s signalling to me that there is too much noise and clutter online, trying to be connected all the time, trying to keep up with everything, and that there’s a part of me that would like to escape from that, and into something mentally and visually calm, yet still engaging and mentally stimulating. (Which I’m awful with following through on! Look at me now! Writing a way-too-long comment!) So I really do see a lot of these things as maybe secondary needs disguised as Wants. Similarly, a lot of fashion and makeup stuff is likely stemming from a need to belong and feel socially accepted/acceptable. The points about Mimetic Desire is interesting. As a kid, we never had many snacks in the house, so if I saw my sibling getting a snack, it didn’t matter whether I was hungry or not; I wanted one immediately too! I was always aware of it, and came to realise it was a scarcity mindset at work as I got older. Fighting that in present day, in a household full of snacks, is its own challenge…! But I think that’s likely also where the Sour Grapes Aesop’s fox story likely stems from as well; if we’re alone and we reconcile that we can’t get the grapes, we have to just make peace with it and keep looking, or we’ll starve at the bottom of that tree. But if the rest of the group gets the grapes, and we’re the only one not there to partake, we might starve Out There instead. At the end of the day, it’s that hindbrain keeping us going and seeking and surviving, so it makes sense… Getting in touch with it and soothing those natural desires is really, I think, where we’ll begin to find and see change. I wonder how many people who truly have an Abundance Mindset have shopping addictions or hoarding addictions? Yet those of us who are still trapped by scarcity mindsets… Much harder to shift that thinking, I’m sure. Sorry for the long comment! BTW your points about seeing others (influencers vs peers) modeling items, behaviours, etc., made me think of the invention of the Shopping Cart, which initially customers weren’t keen on taking up. People thought they would look like they were being lazy, taking too much, etc.. until the store implementing them hired pretend shoppers to walk the store and pretend to shop using the shopping carts, normalizing them to the other (real) shoppers until they caught on. Similarly, I think it was the Betty Crocker cake recipe that only needed its baker to add water to make the recipe; it was so convenient that the company thought it’d take off instantly - but it initially flopped. Their clientele (at the time, mainly housewives) felt that they weren’t doing enough by simply adding water, and had no agency over it. So the company added one more step: the baker would add a single egg (which wasn’t necessary at all for the cake mix). This time, it took off as the company anticipated, and has remained popular until today. Not quite the same concept, but it certainly shows how people want to be perceived by their peers and what it takes to normalize things… Which makes me think of today’s influencers, which brings things to wild new levels.
I agree with a lot of your ways of thinking here! But it's one of those things where I'm quite sure that the author will have a way to "explain" our ways of thinking through his principles of mimetic desire, and that our narratives for self-actualization are still mimetic even if we have a long pathway, or that our way of seeing an object as an offshoot of a bottom-tier need is in fact, a mimetically driven association. Whether we are going to buy the author's narrative of it all being, in fact, mimetic, I guess could even be a mimetically driven tendency, so it's almost one of those ideologies that can be applied to whatever someone "wants" to apply it to 😆 Super interesting about the shopping carts and cake mixes, I love to hear about that stuff and what it kind of shows about us as humans, and our societies !
Thank you for this, I love this book! It really helps me when I apply this information to my own desires. Like in the example of my desired hippopotamus item, I have a friend who is beautiful and successful and I admire, she is the one that has that accessory. Do I covet the item? Or is my desire so much deeper?
Yes! I now also see it in people I know, like a couple of guy friends at work who now BOTH drive Teslas - it can't be a coincidence or that they "both just happen to want" to drive that particular car, when their existing cars to my knowledge were not in dire need of replacing...
The book does sound a bit obvious. If it’s talking about mimetic behaviour, does it mention morphic resonance at all? The famous example is sheep learning to lie down and roll over cattle grids to get over them. The thing is - when one flock of sheep learned to do this, so did most other flocks of sheep around the world, though they can’t have seen it being done. It’s as if ideas and/or behaviour spread in a way that we don’t entirely understand. I’ve been influenced in many conscious ways to do or do differently all kinds of things, and no doubt in many ways if which I am completely unconscious. For instance, re parents, or whoever brought us up: we might confirm completely, rebel completely, or (more commonly) take some things and reject others from the pattern. But we can’t do is not be affected by it and not react to it. It’s our world during our formative years and will form the basic paradigm that we will react to for many years.
Not in that terminology! I'll have to do some googling on morphic resonance to learn some more, but it also sounds like "simultaneous discovery" which I think I mentioned when I talked about that German research-created "Conscious Consuming" guide that paralleled a lot of what I learned this year just acting through the steps of a "no buy challenge"...or like some scientific discoveries were made across the world at similar times as well. Maybe they're different labels for similar things. (Morphic resonance and simultaneous discovery I mean, not mimetic desire). Super interesting about the sheep, actually. And yes it also felt somewhat obvious to me, although it did perhaps give me better language to communicate with. That's also why I initially said this book is probably not a must-read, but I do feel bad telling people not to support an actual book by an actual author 😅
@ if only o could find a way to make weird poetry books fit into your channel… but I can’t. :) That’s a good point re better language to communicate with. Even a quite simple book can do that and it is helpful.
@JehanineMelmoth the day may come!! I'm really trying to do an actual book no-buy for 2025, but I'm not writing off the possibility of weird poetry fitting in someday😁 you may not want my commentary at that point though!!
Only one year and over 300 videos! This channel is amazing! The workmanship is so professional and the topics so interesting! Hope that you get a bit of a rest over the holidays but we look forward to whatever you come up with for next year!
Merry Christmas and THANKS! 🎇🎀🎄🎁🎖😘🙏
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My mother told me that when I was a preschooler , if a tv commercial came on about a toy I already had, I would run to get the toy and gleefully show the tv that I had one. Ugh.
Aw, that's pretty cute though!
I found your video couple of months ago & since then i have watched every single video you have posted. Your words are helping me to shape my scattered mindset.. so thankyou so much. Really grateful for your channel ❤
Oh goodness, thank you!
Our new dog Jessi immediately wants the toy that our older dog Robbie has! She will drop her toy and bother Robbie for his toy!
Strangely I am just the opposite! I never pierced my ears or dyed my hair or got a tattoo or anything others were doing! Weird!
You're anti-mimetic!
So many interesting concepts, as always! Really a lot to mull over! I think there are some interesting ideas from the book to be sure, although I don’t necessarily agree with them all wholesale. To me, when I regard my own desires with regards to Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, I often find that there is some layer in the Hierarchy which my subconscious is trying to fulfill with the desired objects. Maybe I’m misunderstanding the presentation, but it seems like maybe the author sees the Needs pyramid and the Objects we Desire as very separate categories… Yet if I think of the fashion items or accessories I might be pining after, it’s often for my Fantasy Self. And who is the Fantasy Self but an image of our Actualized Self, the person who has attained their goals and fulfilment and status and Individuation? So I often see it as the Subconscious trying to jump to the end goal without having put in the work, without having recognized the crux of what is truly holding up the Actualized Self. Outfitting that person in order to create that person from without, rather than from within.
Similarly, I think of, say, the Uggs. If I were to covet them, which occasionally I do, what am I seeking? To me, they represent coziness and comfort. What are coziness and comfort but an offshoot of Safety and Shelter? So maybe that’s an area I need to examine to see if I’m unaware of feeling some kind of deficit there? (For myself, I actually don’t view them or, likewise, Apple products as Status Symbols, so I’m sure it’s not that. I honestly think that Uggs and Air Pods look a bit silly, but I still think the Uggs look comfy, and the soft brown colour appears calming, so that’s creating an effect. And AirPods are just practical for me, even if I think they look bizarre.)
It’s definitely worth looking at our Desires for an underlying motivation beyond “I like it.” It really starts to open up more conversations with ourselves. I recall being on Instagram and following a number of accounts that are about journalling and penmanship and inks and the journals and accessories themselves. The photographs are absolutely *gorgeous* and every time I see them, I’m filled with envy and a wistful look at my desk, imagining if I had 8 journals and this pen or that bottle of ink; I could replicate it myself, I could *have* that. Then I pause and shake myself awake again. I actually have very low tolerance for clutter. I would *hate* having more than one journal. The visual clutter would drive me nuts, the fact that I wouldn’t be using them all would fill me with remorse, and the analysis paralysis over deciding *which one* I *should* use would drive me up the wall! So while I covet those photos and that lifestyle I’m looking at, I also know that I *don’t want it*. So then there’s a new question: What am I seeing that I *do* want? It took a while, but eventually I realised I’m attracted to the idea of being offline, disconnected from devices, more in touch with myself, with analogue tools, with natural materials, and calming, neutral colours. It’s signalling to me that there is too much noise and clutter online, trying to be connected all the time, trying to keep up with everything, and that there’s a part of me that would like to escape from that, and into something mentally and visually calm, yet still engaging and mentally stimulating. (Which I’m awful with following through on! Look at me now! Writing a way-too-long comment!) So I really do see a lot of these things as maybe secondary needs disguised as Wants. Similarly, a lot of fashion and makeup stuff is likely stemming from a need to belong and feel socially accepted/acceptable.
The points about Mimetic Desire is interesting. As a kid, we never had many snacks in the house, so if I saw my sibling getting a snack, it didn’t matter whether I was hungry or not; I wanted one immediately too! I was always aware of it, and came to realise it was a scarcity mindset at work as I got older. Fighting that in present day, in a household full of snacks, is its own challenge…! But I think that’s likely also where the Sour Grapes Aesop’s fox story likely stems from as well; if we’re alone and we reconcile that we can’t get the grapes, we have to just make peace with it and keep looking, or we’ll starve at the bottom of that tree. But if the rest of the group gets the grapes, and we’re the only one not there to partake, we might starve Out There instead. At the end of the day, it’s that hindbrain keeping us going and seeking and surviving, so it makes sense… Getting in touch with it and soothing those natural desires is really, I think, where we’ll begin to find and see change. I wonder how many people who truly have an Abundance Mindset have shopping addictions or hoarding addictions? Yet those of us who are still trapped by scarcity mindsets… Much harder to shift that thinking, I’m sure.
Sorry for the long comment! BTW your points about seeing others (influencers vs peers) modeling items, behaviours, etc., made me think of the invention of the Shopping Cart, which initially customers weren’t keen on taking up. People thought they would look like they were being lazy, taking too much, etc.. until the store implementing them hired pretend shoppers to walk the store and pretend to shop using the shopping carts, normalizing them to the other (real) shoppers until they caught on. Similarly, I think it was the Betty Crocker cake recipe that only needed its baker to add water to make the recipe; it was so convenient that the company thought it’d take off instantly - but it initially flopped. Their clientele (at the time, mainly housewives) felt that they weren’t doing enough by simply adding water, and had no agency over it. So the company added one more step: the baker would add a single egg (which wasn’t necessary at all for the cake mix). This time, it took off as the company anticipated, and has remained popular until today. Not quite the same concept, but it certainly shows how people want to be perceived by their peers and what it takes to normalize things… Which makes me think of today’s influencers, which brings things to wild new levels.
I agree with a lot of your ways of thinking here!
But it's one of those things where I'm quite sure that the author will have a way to "explain" our ways of thinking through his principles of mimetic desire, and that our narratives for self-actualization are still mimetic even if we have a long pathway, or that our way of seeing an object as an offshoot of a bottom-tier need is in fact, a mimetically driven association. Whether we are going to buy the author's narrative of it all being, in fact, mimetic, I guess could even be a mimetically driven tendency, so it's almost one of those ideologies that can be applied to whatever someone "wants" to apply it to 😆
Super interesting about the shopping carts and cake mixes, I love to hear about that stuff and what it kind of shows about us as humans, and our societies !
It happened to be available on libby. I've been enjoying this book very much. Thanks for (not) recommending it. ;)
Love the weeds! 🌿🌿🌿
Thank you for this, I love this book! It really helps me when I apply this information to my own desires. Like in the example of my desired hippopotamus item, I have a friend who is beautiful and successful and I admire, she is the one that has that accessory. Do I covet the item? Or is my desire so much deeper?
Yes! I now also see it in people I know, like a couple of guy friends at work who now BOTH drive Teslas - it can't be a coincidence or that they "both just happen to want" to drive that particular car, when their existing cars to my knowledge were not in dire need of replacing...
I have to buy that book now
Nooo! Go read his website first and then decide at least, haha but honestly in my opinion, this one is not a "must" to read directly for yourself
The book does sound a bit obvious. If it’s talking about mimetic behaviour, does it mention morphic resonance at all? The famous example is sheep learning to lie down and roll over cattle grids to get over them. The thing is - when one flock of sheep learned to do this, so did most other flocks of sheep around the world, though they can’t have seen it being done. It’s as if ideas and/or behaviour spread in a way that we don’t entirely understand.
I’ve been influenced in many conscious ways to do or do differently all kinds of things, and no doubt in many ways if which I am completely unconscious.
For instance, re parents, or whoever brought us up: we might confirm completely, rebel completely, or (more commonly) take some things and reject others from the pattern. But we can’t do is not be affected by it and not react to it. It’s our world during our formative years and will form the basic paradigm that we will react to for many years.
Morphic resonance is pseudoscience
Not in that terminology! I'll have to do some googling on morphic resonance to learn some more, but it also sounds like "simultaneous discovery" which I think I mentioned when I talked about that German research-created "Conscious Consuming" guide that paralleled a lot of what I learned this year just acting through the steps of a "no buy challenge"...or like some scientific discoveries were made across the world at similar times as well. Maybe they're different labels for similar things. (Morphic resonance and simultaneous discovery I mean, not mimetic desire). Super interesting about the sheep, actually.
And yes it also felt somewhat obvious to me, although it did perhaps give me better language to communicate with. That's also why I initially said this book is probably not a must-read, but I do feel bad telling people not to support an actual book by an actual author 😅
@ if only o could find a way to make weird poetry books fit into your channel… but I can’t. :) That’s a good point re better language to communicate with. Even a quite simple book can do that and it is helpful.
@JehanineMelmoth the day may come!! I'm really trying to do an actual book no-buy for 2025, but I'm not writing off the possibility of weird poetry fitting in someday😁 you may not want my commentary at that point though!!
@ lol!
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