Europe's Homeless - Who Will The AfD and Fidesz Join?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- 100 MEP'S in the European Parliament are unaligned to a European political group. Where will they go? Will they make another group the most powerful? This video will look into the possibilities
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Is posible like Renew and The Green to make join togheder in one party, name Renew Green Europa.
Congratulations
It is all possible. But they dont exactly align on everything.
Algorithm boosting comment. I've noticed that most agriculture/food system based podcasts will often prioritize leaders of random food companies and nonprofit organizations instead of small-scale farmers and workers. What's your theory on that?
From Romania. AUR are at the core just a bunch of populists that would love to join any group that would have them. But their campaign made so much noise both against Hungarian expansionism, but also EU membership, that they would lose too much face if they join any group that either has FIDEZ as a member or supports stronger European integration. Add to that the fact that AUR has a tendency to lose people that have won seats in the national parliament, just for those people to join other parties or become independents, and it's a real wild card.
I am Polish, Konfederacja is a large coalition from free-marketers to monarchists, lead politiciabs said they discuss many options. I think they will join I&D even without AFD as they hate PIS which is the leader of ECR
I'd argue that Meloni is leader of ECR at this point but yeah
"free-marketers to monarchists" any leftists?
I am also Polish and Konfederacja voter, and can confirm this. The Konfederacja campaign focused on PiS's impotence and docility towards key EU figures. The issue with AFD, though, is that they have border revisionist tendencies, something similar to Fidesz and that Romanian party. However, at least one of Konfederacja's new MEPs has contacts within AFD, and it would be nice if they could influence them somehow.
@@ciro_costaNo unless you think Nacionlist is a left wing ideology
Is Mr. Radagast a sent by the Konfederacja?
Trying to explain to Americans that EU "far-right" doesnt translate to American ideals is hard. There are anti-Russian Far-Right, there are "we cant trust Americas MAD lets build our own" far right, there is "NATO sucks, EU Army now" far right, and there is "Putin is hawt" far right. The only thing they have in common is not liking immigration, although Im sure even that is scaled.
Recently “NATO sucks” is not just a left wing movement in the US. It’s also a right wing movement now.
Extremist parties trying not to do infighting for one minute :
Could you give an example of a "NATO sucks, EU Army now" far right party?
@@user-dk4dm7yp2c Ive never heard of one.
@user-dk4dm7yp2c EKRE in Estonia, Danish People’s Party, AUR in Romania are some examples, these are parties that are fearful of Russian militarism but also skeptical of NATO/America and so desire a stronger "independent" EU
I still don't understand how Fidesz stayed in EPP for so long
Same reason GERB from Bulgaria is still in the EPP.
@@dimitaru.8408 is GERB ideology same like Fidesz??
The mentality of older generations, growing up in a socialist country for example taught them to be less expressive politicaly. We dont have a democratic culture like in europe and the TV media is almost fully in the hands of FIDESZ related "bussinesman". They also blatantly cheat just to give you a few examples: Bringing in 800 venezulien immigrants in to a district where they have smaller chances of winning, giving them instructions on their phones who to vote for (had been proven, i am sadly not making it up). They also "help" people in rural areas to vote by taking them with buses to vote (interpret it as you want, technicaly not forcing them but they never forget to tell them who to vote for).
@@ghazalizul9126ueah pretty much
@@ghazalizul9126GERB arguably are Conservatives, though their puppets SDS are technically Christian Democrats. Theirs parties in Groups that don’t make sense, across the board, like ANO from Czechia in RENEW, etc..
Do some more research on the romanian AUR party, they are gonna be in the ECR group
Some statements made by the leader include:
"Putin is a criminal"
"Our closest european allies are Georgia Meloni in Italy and PiS in Poland"
The SOS Romania party which got 5% of the vote and 2 seats is however more likely to join the ID group or a new AfD group
I understand it's not many seats, but still we all expect better
The AUR has far right ideas about society: Anti-immigration, pseudo-Christianity and anti-feminism similar to AfD. The AUR is probably somewhere in between.
ECR is negociating with Orban so i don t think AUR will join ECR !
Meloni has to choose between AUR and Fidesz. It’s not just a matter of seats, Orban is on the European Council and is gonna be President of the Council of Europe for the next 6 months, but on the other hand if the deal with Orban goes through some ECR parties are gonna defect to EPP, such as ODS (that if I remember correctly is in government) or N-VA (that could be the leading party of the next one). AUR seems the safer but less rewarding option here.
@@michelin9297 yeah Bul the leader of AUR is a Gypsy and Meloni and his group is anty migration so you think they will let someone with skin colour in their group ??
There was something similar on Reddit yesterday: "The 100 non-affiliated MEPs (NAs and New) sorted by most likely political group: ECR/ID could get 57 more MEPs!"
Who could've guessed that populist isolationists have trouble with international cooperation 😅
Just look at the right wing groups leading parties, it's like they do this on purpose
ID is the french one
german AfD is gonna form a new one after being kicked out
ECR is italian and polish
Maybe after the ukraine war is over something can consolidate a bit?
A bit off topic but in Ireland we are still counting votes. Our voting system is so much more fun than elsewhere in Europe.
Ha! Love your independent culture btw
@@Diamond-vy1lx yeah, I’m so impressed bankrupt Regina, a horse rider and pageant contestant got the highest votes. None of them have any ideas about current issues in the eu.
Yeah. Its adorable, but works better with eletronic voting machines.
@@ladymorwendaebrethil-feani4031 electronic voting machines would be more efficient for sure, but it would take all the fun, excitement, and tension out of it. It would be like announcing Eurovision results all at one 5 min after voting has closed.
Why is it consindered far right for supporting your own country?
As a Pole I could see Konferencja joining either by themselves to the ID, joining only when AfD comes back or making up a new even more fascisising grouping in the EP together
Konfederacja is not thst close with AFD.
They said that the prefered outcome would be if ID and ECR joined and made a bigger right wing block.
Are you liberal or any other fascist retard?
I would say that Konfederacja will likely join the ID but without Braun since he's the most radical. Also there is a reason why ECR and ID are not together, the only thing that unites them is migration issue and giving more power to the member states but even then they have different vision of how much the EU should lose influence. It's like unifying PiS (ECR) and Konfederacja into a single party
@@MyPrideFlag bigger block isn't happening. They're just saying this to dodge questions as politicians tend to.
@@MyPrideFlagIf anything, PiS is closer to AfD (except for Ukraine), and konf is more right wing than both.
Revival Party of Bulgaria is going to create new party together with AfD 🇧🇬🇩🇪
Interesting
Plus Hungarian Mi Hazánk
Why should someone join a new party with the AfD outside of Germany?
Making borders in Europe to expell people is that attractive?
Great, greetings from Germany. I want to see the AFD coming together with other rather pro russian parties and peace keepers than with transatlantic oriented war mongerers.
super! Greetings from Germany
Why didn't you mention the Bulgarian party 'Revival' ? 🇧🇬 They will send 3 MEPs in the European parliament and threir leader Kostadin Kostadinov said that they have conversations with parties from 14 countries in the EU to create a new group, which maybe will have the name 'Revival for Europe'
Your channel is on fire lately
1:55 Want peace and support ruzzia. Good joke 😂
Well, we would have had peace right now if Zelensky didn't leave the table of negociations **twice**.
Besides, this is a proxy war as Putin is trying to stop any further NATO expansion at Russia's borders. It is like the Cuban Missile Crisis except there is no water around Ukraine for Russia to be able to make a blockade like USA did to Cuba.
thys said "want to normalize relations with Russia". They didn't say they support them tho and peace is always better
Zelensky himself left the table of negociations twice and we all know Putin won't peacefully let NATO expand to Russia's border again.
It's like the Cuban Missible Crisis except it is at Russia's border.
Clearly they dont realize Russija will not stop, Russija must be stopped.
I mean, you cant want peace and antagonize Russia
So their logic checks out
Would it be possible for any national party that is already affiliated with an European party to change party to create a new one with the non-affiliated?
yes it is possible :)
Unpopular opinion: I think there's the possibility of Fidesz joining ECR because they already were in EPP and where kicked out for being "too far right" and the next party right to the EPP is ECR. Also Orban participated in the VOX meeting (spanish ECR party), that could mean that they already have good relationships.
but isn't ECR overwhelmengly anti-Russia (Fratelli, PiS)? That would put some conflict into this group when Putin friendly Orban joins.
@@ignatzmeyer1978 As a hungarian i can say fidesz is rather anti-ukrainian, than pro-russian.
Nope. ECR is right-wing conservative and Euroskeptic, but overall pro-Atlanticist/Ukraine and anti-Russia. Fidesz is solidly aligned with I&D politically, but Orban likes to think he's a big fish and won't join a group unless he's seen as its leader. Really depends on his relationship with Le Pen tbh.
would he come together wit the AFD? I hope so.
@@carthaok3360 yes but meloni wants to give weapons to ukraine, orban does not.
Thanks for the great breakdown, it's exactly what I have been searching for over the past few days!
Happy you like it :D
@@EUMadeSimple what is with gert wilders party, who do they join?
Why did you leave out the Tisza Party from the Top7? They got 7 seats, so they should be 4th on your list.
Great video. I did not expect the content based on the title
The german BSW most definitly isnt far left or far right, not because of a lack of extremist positions but because they are economically left wing and culturally right wing
Yes and they will definteley not join the left group as most of their members just left 'Die Linke'.
This is actually very intersting, and how they stole AfD votes too
Economically oldschool pre-neoliberal socialdemocrats. Culturally they are a mixed bag (limited immigration, no green new deal, no identity politics... but yes to gay marriage, legal abortion and acknowledging climate change to some degree).
@@withoutshadowww What's the point of "acknowledging climate change" if you want to do fuck all about combatting it?
@@falsevacuum4667 admitting it's real But saying that the Economy is more important
Here's what i think will happen:
On the right AUR will likely become part of ECR. they have good relations with pis and fdi, are more or less atlanticist, and arent against the eu but want to strengthen romanias position in it.
Fidesz will likely join ID. They have good relations with le pen, and their foreign policy is highly uncompatible with ECR. Also, many ecr members oppose fidesz, and aur would also oppose it. Having aur over fidesz is smarter, as romania has a bigger voter potential than Hungary.
I dont think afd will rejoin ID. The bulgarian revival party has already stated its interest to form a new group with afd, which would be fully anti west and hard anti EU. I think some current id members might leave to this new group, namely austrian fpö and czech spd, as well as the new parties konfederacja from poland, republika from slovakia and either hungary's mi hazank or sos romania (but not both for nationalistic reasons). That would be exactly 7 countries, so just enough for a group.
On the left, i do think they will very likely try to form a new group, but its questionable if they will get enough seats from enough countries. Maybe pvda from belgium might fit? Or bulgarian bsp? And latvian stability?
+1, I agree
Three right wing groups will be so chaotic, maybe something can consolidate (next elections) after the ukraine war is over as that is one of the main points that ECR and ID dont agree on.
I imagine one ECR-like super-group (french, italian, polish leadership) and one hardline anti eu group with the AfD and others + some extremes from current ID (maybe hungary too?)
"as well as the new parties konfederacja from poland"
Unlikely. As you've written: "which would be fully anti west and hard anti EU".
Konfederacja definitely isn't "anti-west" (in fact idenification with western civilization, "US Republican Party"-like approach and perception of Russia as a threat are foundations od this party).
And Konfederacja rather isn't anti-EU - more "EU-reformist" (because as economical liberals they see advantages of a common European market, but they oppose EU bureaucracy and abuse of power by European Comission).
At the same time AfD has territorial claims against Poland - and that's why Konfederacja won't be keen to any cooperation with it.
@@prk2543 since when does konfederacja not want to leave the EU anymore?
I think that AUR already belongs to the ECR
AUR is pro-russia and very extreme, they belong more to the ID
I don't think so. Some views of them, if you read them, are more than just conservative, and some even talk for reunification with not only Moldova, but with parts of Ukraine which used to be in Romania's border in the Middle War period.
They're most likely join the ID or stay non-affiliated for now.
The Right doesn't need to be affiliated into groups. It is very plausible that all the scattered Right wing MEPs will vote in block when it comes to specific topics, if they are swayed by groups such as the ID. That is a very significant scenario, because it's more difficult to predict and control how individual, unaffiliated MEPs will vote.
The FPO should go together with the AFD and not with the ID. They have much more in common.
AUR wants to join ECR, not ID but Orban's negotiations with ECR are blocking their path since AUR is a bit anti-Hungarian. You are not well informed on this matter, sorry to say.
When it comes to Polish Konfederacja, I would not quite agree that they are extreme. Mentzen's wing focuses on economic freedom and "repairing the EU" (3 seats), the next wing called the National Movement (2 seats) is more eu-skeptical but also not very radical, while the smallest wing of this party is led by Braun, who is the only one from his wing who got into the European Parliament and definitely can be considered radical, also this wing has positive relations with the AfD, which cannot be said about the rest of the party, so I wouldn't consider that they would only join ID if the AfD returned there. As for Russia-Ukraine, Konfederacja isn't friend of Russia (again, Braun's party may say something about not supporting Ukraine) as they want Ukraine to win the war but provide help with common sense and they are against social benefits for Ukrainians.
Braun's party is literally russophile and anti-Ukraine
Poles having positive relations with a party that openly praises the Nazis is wild.
@@Dendarang yeah there's always a 15% of people in every country that's batshit crazy. Those 15% vote Konfederacja in Poland lol
Konfederacja is most definitely extreme.
@@MrAsteliks007 they're crazy
I’m from Romania 🇷🇴, is AUR is far-right to extreme but they look more to join ECR, more over recommend Record and Recorder Talks for more information, hope you know Romania.
Here is a second opinion
Far right is used too much currently to discredit some parties. This is actually righy wing populism with AUR. They will join the ECR group
However, SOS Romania (another party) who got 5% of the vote and 2 seats is more likely to join the ID group or a new group with the AfD
I voted SOS Romania (‘far-right’) party, but somehow happy enough to see AUR there too, they were my second option anyway.
I would love to see all these parties joining ID, but not sure what Orban is playing at wanting Romanian territory. Has he lost his mind? He better get back to his senses and try his best to join ID too. We need all the help we can get to stand up to the rest of this woke, neo-Marxist, LGBTQ worshiper, elitist, globalist, technocratic, evermore galloping to the left and socialist EU.
The right better unite, cause sure as hell we are fighting a vast Marxist majority.
+1, invers pentru mine
Un super-grup de dreapta ar fi cel mai bine, poate data viitoare după război
Maybe the new group could be:
Alternative Fur Deutschland Germany
Democratic Patriot Movement Greece
Republic Slovakia
Se Acabo la Fiesta Spain
Revival Bulgaria
Our Homeland Movement Hungary
Konfederacja Poland
Sos Romania
Apparently AUR is gonna go for ECR and Our Homeland already had negotiations with AfD and Revival
AUR will be in the ECR, but here there is a SOS Romania party which got 5% of the vote and 2 seats. ID or new AfD group for them
Intresting that AfD might have enough for a third right wing group
Such a mess 3 groups would be, one for the french, one for the germans, one for the italians and poles. It's almost like they dont want to get along on purpose. Maybe something can consolidate a bit after the ukraine war is over
The Golden Sunrise in Greece maybe a partner of the AfD, and Fidesc in Hungary naturally.
Don't know about many other fitting parties.
AUR originally tried to join the ECR, but that basically fell down because they considered AUR a bit too extreme (despite moderating more or less in recent times, as its radical wing split away and actually also got into the EU parliament with their own 2 seats). Recently, however, AUR has been present at some ID group meetings, thus, they will probably be joining that group.
1:52 - I don't know about the other parties, but the Polish Konfederacja does want to support Ukraine, just not so much as the main Polish parties.
3:57 - I haven't heard of any relations between Konfederacja and AfD, i don't think there are any.
It's not about the goals.
I think that everyone in Konfederacja agrees that Poland has to support Ukraine and the main goal is not to let Russia win.
But they criticise chaotic and not well designed support of Polish government for Ukrainian economy and Ukrainian refugees in Poland.
As the effect - such a politics is harmful to Polish entrepreneurs and farmers. In some fields Ukrainian refugees have more rights than Polish citizens and (often Ukrainians abuse it) - what also is criticized.
It's ok to help Ukrainians, but this help should be sustainable and well designed. But Polish government crated fields where many Poles feel like citizens of the second category. That's what is a matter of Konfederacja's crticism.
@@prk2543 exactly
It’s completely ironic when a party claims it’s nationalistic and then just does what Russia wants. I mean, if you want to be nationalists, at least be nationalists.
I have much more sympathy for the likes of Meloni: I don’t agree with her on many things but at least she does represent Italian and not Russian interests. I’m all for plurality of opinions, including nationalistic, but where I draw the line is when you are just a vehicle of a foreign empire and you don’t even try to hide it.
Well said
Why would a European nationalist follow America? Russia are socially conservative and patriotic, America is socially and culturally liberal.
How and when does a party just do "what Russia wants"? Whenever they don't support Ukraine unconditionally? There's no winning with you brainwashed people these days, who simply bow to U.S. foreign interests at every turn. When trade and cooperation with Russia is better for the nation than to exist without either, isn't that working for your own national interests? Why make your economical situation worse for the sake of a country on the edge of Europe which is and always has been one of the most corrupt european states?
Doesnt the latest update show 189 seats for EPP (+13), 76 seats for ECR (+7)?
6:59 those all just sound like things you'd find on the far-right
Latvijas 1 unaligned guy has joined the Conservatives and Reformists, making it he most popular group in Latvija.
AUR intends to join the ECR, however they have stated that they will not sit with the ECR if Fidesz. This is because Fidesz's territorial claims on Transylvania.
In Romania, AUR already said that they wanna join ECR, they have already partnerships with PiS from Poland and Meloni ( I believe also Zemmour but I’m not sure ). They generally promote the same policies as Marine Le Pen, left-wing economically and right-wing socially.
SOS Romania, a party which gained 2 seats stated it’s intention to join the ID group, or even join A NEW european group. SOS is basically AUR on stereoids . They are VERY VERY VERY LEFT WING economically, borderline socialist, and a bit more right wing socially than AUR. They openly support Putin ( the leader of the party actually went to the Russian embassy right after the election ) and said they take a lot of inspiration both from Ceausescu, the former communist leader of Romania, but also certain legionary leaders from the WW2.
Ah, and btw, AUR won 6 seats, not 5.
Se duce Şoşoacă să facă scandal in Europa, să vedem dacă rezistă ăia cu ea sau nu 🤣🤣
I am romanian, the fact that AUR is relevant in eu politcs is extremely concerning
AUR is like a person that contradicts everything. They will likely be independent because even in this year's elections, when most parties organize into alliances, they remained single. Dark days are ahead for EU parliament. I apologize for SOS Romania. We will bring Diana Sosoaca there.
Here are my best guesses
AUR and Fidesz both want to join the ECR, but both have threatened to not join if the other is admitted. At least one of them will join
Half of confederation's MEP's have said they want to join ID, half will continue to be independent
AfD will rejoin ID after the French elections
Smaller parties not mentioned in video:
Bulgaria's Revival with 3 seats will probably join ID. They almost joined before the EU election, but they are quite extreme, which is why they have not joined yet.
Slovakian Republika could join ID, they have two Meps
Greece's NIKI (Victory) said they will sit as an independent, but have also indicated a willingness to join ID
well as hungarian maybe they can agree with each other
its not the first time an anti hungarian party became friends with hungary
look at robert fico he wanted to invade hungary 10 years ago and kick out hungarians from slovakia
now he is the biggest friend of orban and don't hate hungary so much now
but maybe not who knows after all romania is the bastion of the hungary hater club
What if they all started their own coalition?
A bit of insight from Bulgaria:
One of the parties (ITN), which has 1 representative, aligned with ID, prior to the elections. I don't think they've officially decided to join them, but claim to have "a lot in common".
While the other 3 unaffiliated members, from Vuzrazhdane, are also ideologically far-right, and ideologically closest to ID.
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6:59 Sarah Wagenknecht's policies sound great
Including the Putin stuff?
Another example of EUropean patchwork, to put it polite, or "chaos" to be more blunt. Many US citizens wish they had more choices, but looking at this plethora of variations one might doubt this would be better. As in most cases: most likely the truth is to be found in the middle of things. Neither system seems to be good enough for its respective citizens, obviously. I wish EU🇪🇺rope would buckle up, get together and gain 💪🏼strength and more unity, however looking at this, it's not gonna happen in our lifetime ... unfortunately 🤷🏼♂️
Why wouldnt fidesz join ECR?
You said all the possible events but i think that id party may fix the relationship between fidesz and AUR by butting preachers on Hungary to stop
Also, AUR has 6 seats, my dude. And no, AUR is not "far-right". Again, you're losing you're showing your biases. And I wouldn't say they "support Russia" since they're staunch supporters of unification with Moldova, something Russia is against, but yeah, they're not exactly big fans of Ukraine. Newsflash: many people aren't and our whole lives don't revolve around Ukraine.
I mean BSW can hardly be called left wing. Sure it used to be part of the left but now they only focus on right wing talking points. They did the "the left has gone woke we must become fascists" bit.
They are both left and right at the same time. Different parts of their program lean seperate ways.
They finally actually merge the good sides of left and right wing ideology into a coherent and good program.
@@gergelyritter4412 I just don't see what in their program is left wing.
nice
Fidesz might join ECR
Le Pen should leave ID and join the ECR.
Why would you leave your own group?
Yes ideally form a right wing super-group, but it's also the ego of leading your own group on both sides (biggest party in the group is usually the one leading it by common sense)
We will now have 3 right wing groups
ECR - italy and poland
ID - france
new AfD group
Crazy chaos, it's like they do this on purpose
AUR sent 6, not 5 seats.
maybe Fidesz in the ECR
You forgot SOS from Romania :)))
7:00 lmao those should be the policies of the majority in a civilised world.
Die Souveränität
Moment.. the konfederacja is made from 3 Streams..only the monarchists from Braun like the AfD..the nationalists and libertarians don't and polish nationalism is extremly opposed to German nationalism..
movimento 5 stelle goes from 14 seats in 2019 to 8 seats in 2024
Why are you calling ECR far right. What is what they say is extreme?
Everyone to the right of center on social issues is now far right and everyone anti establishment is now extremist
So by that logic, the ECR is far right too while having the most common sense policies
@@Diamond-vy1lx yeah…. I though so… it really seems that they can bastise anything they want as they like, just to scare off people.
2:45
hahahaaha
Do you unequivocaly condemn ALL communists? Or all capitalists for that matter?
Clown World.
România AUR got 6 seats not 5
Yes, the politico graphic still shows them as 1 seat (Terheş) to the ECR and 5 as NI, they will all likely be in the ECR
SMER and Hlas want to rejoin S&D. Negotiations are currently ongoing.
One day Europeans will learn from africans on how to live together as many tribes. Europe os the most tribal continent globally even alliens wont land there. No wonder Russia is chosing global south
They need to join the other far-reich parties
Konfederation is not extreme xD what
Hungary is free to come for Transylvania. ;)
I wonder if France would force Romania to leave Budapest this time.
none wants 5 million Romanians
I have no idea how Orban even got into or stayed in the EPP to begin with. If AfD and the Polish and Romanian parties join ID, then Orban could try to join ECR if they aren't too extreme on the Ukraine crap any more or Sweden Democrats stop blocking them, especially since Orban became slightly less anti-war recently.
Tre filorussi in copertina
As a Romanian 🇷🇴, I would say the AUR will probably join the ECR as the leadership of the party has good relations with both Meloni and PiS and the leading EU candidate is already part of the group
Update: yes, they joined the ECR
I wonder how many of those 4 European deputies will still be in AUR though by next year. They don't have a good track record on keeping people in the party after they win seats.
@@Muaddibize Small correction: they have a total of 6 seats (only 5 are shown in the video because one member is already part of the ECR)
And keeping people in the party is kind of a problem for all opposition in Romania, take for example USR who got 8 seats in 2019 but lost most of them after REPER broke off from the party. I guess we will see if AUR will be better at keeping their seats.
Well said
AUR vrea in ECR dar ECR negociaza cu Orban si Orban ii blocheaza momentan.
AUR's vicious rhetoric against their large hungarian minority makes it impossible to join the same party as Fidesz. But the whole right is very fragmented for similar various reasons. It would be a surprise if Meloni and Le Pen would join together as they have very different opinions about ukraine.
I am Hungarian. Maximilian Krah actually came to Budapest before the elections (and before he got expelled) to negotiate with Mi Hazánk (far-right party in Hungary) about founding a new European party. The Bulgarian party "Renewal" was also said to be part of these talks.
Yes. It is is called Revival though. They are good friends with Afd and the leader spoked on an AFD convention
revival are really a bunch of stupid people hunglry for power and money. And im not exagerating. Given my political views I am a far rigth not in their context which is basically anti eu, anti nato and pro russia. Also their combined IQ is much less than that of a rugby team
Seems like the "far right" baguettes didnt like that, tho they probably also kicked the afd out for their french elections
That would be great. I would love the AFD to go together with a conservative right wing leader of hungary. Do you think Orban would build a coalition with the AFD or even both parties? Greetings from Germany
The konfederacja isn't that extreme as fidesz or afd. Their program is extremly similar to the USA republican party but with a polish twist to it. Caling everything thats more right wing than EPP far-right or extreme is harmful to the content of the discussion
Especially when EPP isn't really "right-wing" or even "central-right". Today its significantly left-shifted because of such parties like CDU and KO.
The title might confuse people.
I was proud of that title haha. I will leave it for now but if I get complaints I can change it.
Its funny
thought so too :D
I mean, is it wrong? There is a housing crisis in parts of Europe so even the misleading part is technically true.
@@EUMadeSimple Personally I think "European Parliament's Homeless" would be a better phrasing.
Just to add on, there is also Hlas - SD for Slovakia (1 MEP) that is brother party with Smer and is also unaligned
The leader for the 5Star Movement anticipated a "surprise" before the election. Possible hinting at the formation of a Russian Boot Licking Brigade in the EU Parliament.
Also the czech communist party KSČM gained 2 seats and their leader openly said that they are thinking about forming a new fraction because the european Left is too green.
Also the greek communist party could join
Both Smer and Hlas are socialdemocratic parties, so I would expect them to join the S&D group.
@@Thorin05 They were member of the S&D but got expelled for forming a government coalition with the ID member party SNS.
Konfederacja is a coalition of capitalist, nationalist, monarchist parties, they are used to be lone wolfs as they don't have any friends or allies in polish parliament so they may continue that in EU parliament
Ależ w parlamencie europejskim napewno znajdzie się paru podobnych wariatów.
@@pieskobi943 nikt nie pytał fajnopolaku
New Hope (one of the 2 main parts of Confedracy) is mainly Liberal
@@pieskobi943 Wariaci to siedza w komisji i w Warszawie.
@@armingleiner5292 Wszędzie siedzą. Na całym świecie. Większość tych ludzi to dzieciątka konglomeratów, które nigdy nie doświadczyły ciężkiej roboty.
AUR announced they will enter ECR
Interesting the supposed to be extreme far right joining center right. It almost far right only used to defame party
@@kelvindoang1228LMAO you think ecr is centre right?
@@kelvindoang1228 I d say ecr is more right than centre right. And there is SOS who is getting in ID. And Aur and SOS wont be part of the same euro group. They kinda hate eachother. Well the leaders at least.
The right wing groups from most progressive and least right-wing to most conservative, far-right, and Eurosceptic:
Renew: centre-right to right-wing with more progressive stances (i.e. social liberals, classical liberals, and neoliberals), and pro-EU
EPP: centre-right to right-wing with more conservative stances (i.e. Christian democrats, liberal-conservatives, and conservatives) and pro-EU
ECR: centre-right to far-right conservatives and populists with nationalistic, soft Eurosceptic, and anti-federalist views
ID: far-right conservative populists with nationalistic, hard Eurosceptic, and anti-federalist views
The problem with AFD is not only in the ID but with Konfederacja as well. They said that they won't sit next to AFD and if they do change their minds, it's over for them here in Poland. They are not extreme and certainly not friends with AFD. Not at all. Maybe Braun guy, which is the most extreme of them all, but absolutely not Bryłka and not Herning.
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@@EUMadeSimple This very well prepared overview made me subscribe. Please stay with the topic as things unfold (e.g. after the French elections). It will be very horrible if vdL gets reelected. She should be in prison.
As Konfederacja voter i have to say there are a lot of misconceptions about them here.
-They are not pro-russian however they think Poland helped Ukraine too much. They think western european countries should help Ukraine more since they are the ones who were working with Russia. Eastern European countries like Poland and Baltic States shouldn't "waste" their money on Ukraine since they are in danger and should spend resaurces on their own security.
-Konfederacja is coalition of 3 parties and only one of them support AfD,the other 2 are either neutral or against them,depends who you ask.
-Their members said the dream scenario is if ECR and ID merged but they know its unlikely,they lean more towards ID but said nothing is sure yet,creating new group is possibile too.
Btw. I protest against calling them far right. They are pro free market conservatists,nothing far right about it.
It need to be mentioned that Konfederacja was the most active group in the Polish parliament (and still is) that called for counteracting the hybrid war waged by Putin and Lukashenko on Poland's eastern border.
At the same time, before the last elections to the Polish Parliament, parties such as KO (EPP) and Lewica (S&D) cynically supported the hybrid war against Poland as part of their political game against the then ruling party PiS.
will they join Ecr or Id?
@@arpetr3458: Probably they can join I&D, especially when AfD is out.
ECR unlikely, because it is too close to "mainstream". There's e.g. PiS in ECR - the party which is heavily criticized by Konfederacja.
I think that either Konfederacja join I&D or it won't be in any PE group.
You need to explore "these small parties." It's vague and needs more clarity.
Basically just parties with 1 MEP
7:03 how is Sahra Wagenknecht described as left-wing, when all these policies are literally identical to the far-right ID group?
Just stop sending my money to ukraine please
Finally 😀 also correction Smer gained 2 seats (not 5) in 2019 they had 3 seats, second correction I'm not sure if you can still call Smer a social democracy (even though they still have it in name) they are more of a conservative populist party
They are Culturally Conservative Social Democrats. Just because they aren’t woke, doesn’t make their fiscal views disappear
Smer is a social democrat party on economics but social con
@mapache69. @reiudfgq3vrh34ur Well they don't have to be woke, I just don't remember any social problem they were trying to solve since like 2018 such as poverty in some regions of Slovakia or single mothers poverty or homelessness or something. Instead they canceled special court of justice and raised wages for ministers.
@@peter5966 better Corruption that wokeness. Rather be hungry than have my kids tell me they identify as a cross dressing dinosaur.
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Could try to form a new group, however, the new group would be lacking one member, and not all of these would join the group
Gert Wilders could join too
I was waiting for this topic
I saw the comments :)
AUR is pretty much anti Russiaa and their leader dispises Russian influence in Romania, despite being otherwise far right. they kicked out one of their senators because she was too Russia friendly and she went on to make her own splinter party. AUR is likely to join ECR i think
are they really anti-russia though? From what I read on wikipedia they seem pretty warm towards russia
@@davidescristofaros2241the leader said multiple times (and I quote) "Putin is a criminal" or "That criminal Putin (...)[whatever]" so yeah
I dont know what Wikipedia says about them, but clearly not 100% always accurate on recent and political subjects
@@davidescristofaros2241 they want reunification with moldova and russia stands in the way, they're more friendly than the average party sure, but fairly anti russia compared to other far right parties in europe
@@Diamond-vy1lx I believe you, but that's not enough. to be truly anti russian you need to push for military aid to Ukraine, and maybe even recognize yourself Ukraine's borders (AUR is pretty irredentist from what I know). I don't trust such crazy heads to truly be anti russian
@@youremomlol2263 there are european parties that are more pro russian than AUR for sure, but that doesn't make you necessarily pro Ukraine. I see pro russian rethoric coming from AUR party and they don't really respect Ukraine's territory integrity when it comes to romanians living in Ukraine. I don't trust them at all.
Partly included in the unaffiliated group is also Volt. The three seats from Germany are already counted towards the greens, because in the last election Period they were part of them but the two seats from the Netherlands are counted as unaffiliated, because they are considered a separate party. They have stated that they will have talks with the greens and liberals and let the members decide then. I believe the most likely outcome will be, that they will join the greens again. So the greens will have to more seats then currently stated. But ther is also the possibility, that the Greens will have three seats less and the liberals five seats more.
why is the Belgian Pvda/Ptb never shown under the left group. Pvda/Ptb is part of the left in the EU
Pole and Konfederacja voter here. I think Konfederacja will likely stay unaligned or join I&D. They are actually not that close with AFD, it's important to note that Konfederacja is a coalition of three slightly different parties in itself and only one of them likes AFD. I also heard something about them wanting to create a new party in the EP but not sure if it's going to happen.
Please note that that Polish Konfederacja party is a so-called "small tent" party. This means that there are several smaller parties underneath the tent, each with a different political ideology. Some portions of Konfederacja might be "friends" with the AfD but the others won't want to team up with the AfD for various reasons.
I've heard that 5 Star Movement has been friendly towards Italy's PD party, so I see possibility for them joining the S&D block to be more likely than joining a new block, but even that i don't see happening
Friendly because of mere convenience. If PD was dominating, they’d be allied with the other non governing parties
Few years ago, 5 Stars were very euroskeptic, they event tried to do a referendum of the euro money but they failed since in Italy it is illegal to do it for international treaties. Because of this, at the time, they tried to form a group with Farage but the proposal failed. Then, years later, tried to join ALDE but Verhofstadt declined the offer because of their euroskeptic past, hence they staied independent. In Italy, 5S movement doesn't want to be associated neither with the Left or the Right, they define themselves "reformist", as their leader Conte said during an interview so, I think that improbable, but not impossible, that they are going to join any of the current groups.
I confirm what @mapache69 said, but I would not define them friend, the are not even formally allied. They just have convenience on working toghether, since they're the two biggest opposition parties, even if these two often argue.
They are Putin Financed populist bots, nobody except other Russian Boot Lickers is going to welcome them.
Anything slightly leaning to the right = FAR right
It's quite simple. Center-Right generally are pro-EU conservatives, Right-Wing are soft Euroskeptics and moderately nationalistic, and Far-Right are full-blown nationalist authoritarians (often racist too).
1:00, Smer already had 4 seats before, it did not gain 5
Can you do a video about who has anti islam and anti israel position?
2:42 that’s like saying to a Palestinian do you condemn Hamas
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Those parties are Center-Right not far right. The issues is that the left uses the media to paint them as far right when they are center right
Not exactly. Every party is different. I think that AfD could be called far right.
But at the same time Konfederacja definitely isn't far right, "right-wing" at most or even (similar as you've written) "anti-establishment central-right".
Today Konfederacja de facto is much more christian democratic party than parties declaring themselves as "christian democratic" (such as German CDU or Polish KO which have become rather social democratic).
The party AUR admires The policy of Poland and sympathize with Meloni. SOS party from Romania has already declared that wants to join ID
It took me quite a while after having watched the videos why there were no homeless haha
I am happy that the afd does not join the ID, as they wouold have to give up their stands , their peace politics, pro russian and anti transatlantic stands. I would love to see the afd coming together with Orban, who is very liked in the german right wing szene.
I Am Polish and if u want to know about Konfederacja EU MPs one of them is Braun Famous for stopping hanuka in Polish parlament and anti-vaccine conspiracy theories. We are sending our finest ppl to EU :)
It wasn't about Hanukkah, it was about hypocrisy. Polish elites are fighting Christianity in offices and calling for a secular state, and at the same time they see no problem with displaying Judaism in the Polish parliament. The matter of foreign influences are also involved, as the Israeli ambassador admitted in an interview that Hanukkah in the Polish parliament was related to Israel.
The leadership od Konfederacja directly stated that they don't support Grzegorz Braun's methods and criticized this action. But many people support the thesis that if the state is to be secular, it should be secular to everyone equally.