G'day Phill, another great video and informative, I never knew about the early work with battery vehicles here in Victoria. So true about rehashing old technologies, the key is to grasp the areas of failure and try to rectify them for the current venture.
The point about buses being considered not suitable for congested areas is very interesting. Especially given how many congested regions of Melbourne are presently forced to rely upon them. Perhaps we should take a lesson from the Royal Commission and start converting those trackless routes into proper tram routes. Especially in growing suburban areas which not only have the space but also the increasing demand for quality public transport. While it would never happen in the foreseeable future, it would be great for all future estates to be required to have a suitable corridor for rail transport if one doesn't already exist. Though that would be nothing more then a utopian fantasy with the way things are.
Mate I love teams living in the inner city now but once outer suburban. Trams would be a useless as the proverbial on a bull. Most estates these days are properly built with narrow streets that wind, totally undesirable for a tram network plus the estates extend so fast you would never cover most areas so……people again use cars. Buses would go far more places than trains ever do. People need to grow up and stop having transit fantasies because they are fans of certain systems and understand people and why they love cars
Actually trolley buses. Look them up. Electric buses only in those days with a pantograph and over head wires but able to roam anywhere on the road and with tyres
Great video. Batteries are still heavy by the way. Technology doesn’t change that. It’s motor’s that have become stronger to make them more viable. And please…no rubber wheels. We don’t need to waste money on gadget bahns. It seems with each generation Snake Oil salesmen find a new generation of gullible people to invest in their ideas.
Why do we need to move electric powered trams to battery operated ? Surely if the infrastructure is there and the electricity is sourced from “green” sources the costs of retrofitting the network and environmental cost of procuring battery powered vehicles outweighs maximising the existing infrastructure investment and purchasing green energy to power it ? Seriously the sums would not add up but I’m sure some smart lobbying and additional green marketing plus the votes will get it over the line !
Overhead wires are practical yes but I feel they kinda ruin the beauty of the city. So many wires crisscrossing against the background of a clear blue sky.
Another great video Phillip! I was aware of the brief battery operation in Bendigo, but didn't realised it was trialled in Melbourne.
G'day Phill, another great video and informative, I never knew about the early work with battery vehicles here in Victoria. So true about rehashing old technologies, the key is to grasp the areas of failure and try to rectify them for the current venture.
Thank you, glad you enjoy them!
The point about buses being considered not suitable for congested areas is very interesting. Especially given how many congested regions of Melbourne are presently forced to rely upon them. Perhaps we should take a lesson from the Royal Commission and start converting those trackless routes into proper tram routes. Especially in growing suburban areas which not only have the space but also the increasing demand for quality public transport. While it would never happen in the foreseeable future, it would be great for all future estates to be required to have a suitable corridor for rail transport if one doesn't already exist. Though that would be nothing more then a utopian fantasy with the way things are.
Mate I love teams living in the inner city now but once outer suburban. Trams would be a useless as the proverbial on a bull. Most estates these days are properly built with narrow streets that wind, totally undesirable for a tram network plus the estates extend so fast you would never cover most areas so……people again use cars. Buses would go far more places than trains ever do. People need to grow up and stop having transit fantasies because they are fans of certain systems and understand people and why they love cars
Thanks Philip. Clear and concise video. Cheers.
Thanks for watching!
excellent video compilation of the history of battery powered Trams many thanks
Another great video Philip. Your videos on public transit in Melbourne are my favourites.
Many thanks!
lol at the headline a 8:00 'next gen trams could be trackless with rubber wheels'..... so busses then, pretty sure they're describing busses
Actually trolley buses. Look them up. Electric buses only in those days with a pantograph and over head wires but able to roam anywhere on the road and with tyres
The rolling resistance would be an issue. Not to mention punctures etc.
Love your work Philip!
Thanks for watching!
Philip i love your videos, thank you, cheers john
Thank you, glad you like them!
Wow, the hype around that time didn't seem all that different.
Very interesting mate
I wonder why magnetic induction power hasn’t been deployed in Australia at all?
We just have to build more tram lines now :)
Maybe battery electric trams will run on the Doncaster light rail. Yes, I'm joking.
Those trackless battery powered trams (with rubber wheels) are running well in China today.
god help you if a huge tram battery catches fire ???
Great video. Batteries are still heavy by the way. Technology doesn’t change that. It’s motor’s that have become stronger to make them more viable.
And please…no rubber wheels. We don’t need to waste money on gadget bahns.
It seems with each generation Snake Oil salesmen find a new generation of gullible people to invest in their ideas.
there are newer battery technologies (obv) so i can see why they are trying to push them again.
Why do we need to move electric powered trams to battery operated ? Surely if the infrastructure is there and the electricity is sourced from “green” sources the costs of retrofitting the network and environmental cost of procuring battery powered vehicles outweighs maximising the existing infrastructure investment and purchasing green energy to power it ? Seriously the sums would not add up but I’m sure some smart lobbying and additional green marketing plus the votes will get it over the line !
Overhead wires are practical yes but I feel they kinda ruin the beauty of the city. So many wires crisscrossing against the background of a clear blue sky.
They look fine, I doubt most people notice them after while, only the sooks who want to reinvent the wheel I mean power delivery system.
02:15: Spot the Patriarchy!