@@relent8595Says who? You? I guess you know more about boxing than: Jorge Linares Eddies Reynoso Regis Prograis Richardson Hitchins Abner Mares Shakur Stevenson Keyshawn Davis Ryan Garcia Shawn Porter Terrance Crawford Robert Garcia De la Hoya Showbizz And you know I can keep going……
Champside said we dont know shit about boxing because the judges are professionals. So in turn hes saying Reagis, Jorge, DeLaHoya, Terrance, Shakur, Showbizz, Real Talk boxing and so on and so on dont know shit about boxing apparently
If Haney lost you'd be saying lol and making fun of him for crying. It was a close fight I think Biz totally missed the mark on his assessments you'd think it was 10-2 Loma the way folk acting. It's not about staying on code Dev won more rounds. Loma's rounds looked better but he won fewer. While we're talking about code I find it ironic how a certain race can support their own post a flag of a country they never lived in support of "their" people with no backlash. But if you think Dev won then you're not honest and just being on code. When you rebuff the points they make they scream 116-112 terrible card
I agree I have Loma winning. But the real question is How did you score the fight? Because right now I'm seeing sensationalism In my opinion. How many rounds did Devin Haney win?
@@benpinder889 That's so disingenuous. Are you race riding? Most everyone had it 7-5 either way or draw to say if you don't think Loma won it's because you're racist is weak debate what you seen or STFU
I appreciate you , big dawg. Honesty no matter what side you stand on is real. & that’s why I’m rockin with your channel. That’s why you’re #1 voice of this sport rn.
Bro, thank you for being real. In times like this in boxing, it’s so easy to just go along with what the judges say. But it’s moments like this in the past that have dealt boxing it’s biggest blows. I want the sport to survive, and in order for it to continue the moment it’s been on, something needs to finally be done about these judges. There has to be another way.
Guys I don't know wtf ur talking about. Haney won the fight. It was competitive no question. But I had it 116_112 Haney. And I had money on Loma knocking Haney out. Haney won the fight. They can run it back but I'm warning u now next time it'll b worse for Loma. Great fighter. But makes excuses every loss.
@@davidortiz9577 if u say so man. This was a competitive fight. I don't have a problem w anyone giving Loma the nod but this was not a robbery. No one really likes Haney. Boring fighter. But he won the fight
@@briancobbin1412 a unanimous decision? 116-112 with Morretti giving the last 6 - 7 rounds to Haney. Sorry, straight bull 💩 and corruption no doubt. This was a money decision. They had no intentions of letting Loma walk away to Ukraine with those belts
Do you think it was a fair decision? What should Lomachenko/Haney do next? Despite the wrong or right decision, both fighters gave us an incredible fight.
No it wasn't they screwed Loma I watched it from 1-12 he pressed him the whole fight the ref was great short breaks in the clinch he allowed them to box we gotta clean up the sport if it's the ref in one fight (rolle) or the judges in this one
Def not a fair decision I had it even the first half, then Loma turning it up a notch in the middle and end. The fight was an instant classic though, no doubt. Haney should fight Shakur, and the winner of that match up needs to fight Tank. As for Loma idk man..maybe take a break for a little while to clear his head and mind and while at that try to get that appeal going for the fight?
@@Big_SPIC You don't get points for pressing the fight. You got to land punches. I still had Lomachenko winning But the real question is..... How many rounds did you give Devin Haney?
Boxing didn't fail us. It's what happens in a 50/50 fight. It was just closer than we have seen in a long time. One round win for either guy is just as fair as a draw. Not a robbery it's literally fight of the year.
@@landofallon8515 Yall said the same thing after Loma lost to Teo. Go watch the fight again, I watched it twice and Devin wins clearer on second watch minus the emotions and bs ESPN commentary. Devin won most of the early rnds Loma came on late as usual. AND STILL UNDISPUTED CHAMP!!!
@@EvilDead_Editz you do realize Lomas face was not swollen right? He didn't have a blistered face. Loma is a white guy so it's easier to see his marks compared to Haneys marks cause Haney is already baked so try harder.
Man seeeing Loma break down into tears really let me know how much this fight and becoming undisputed meant. These men put their hearts and body on the line and to see him lose like this. It’s really heartbreaking and made me tear up a lil man smh
That was hard to watch, especially when you know the entire backstory and you KNOW he was robbed. Definitely one of the saddest moments in modern boxing. Not taking nothing from Haney, but this robbery was highly detrimental to the sport of boxing.
@@junebug231985 It’s crazy the contrast between Haney fanboys and fans of boxing. The fans of boxing are mostly blaming the commission, the judges, and Top Rank for what happened last night. And then you got the Haney fanboys (who really DKSAB) who are out here blaming Loma and attacking Loma because Haney was gifted a decision.
Maaan stop with the soft music cry baby crap. The fight was judged correctly. Haney outboxed him through 8 rds . 9 10 11 was all lomo……12 went to Haney win this fight. Lomo did not do enough to win this fight. OMG Tim Bradly was so bias he was creating his own reality pathetic. Lomo don’t want to run it back, he vacated the belt when Haney was in his prime 4 years ago because he didn’t want the smoke. man the cognitive dissonance in this thread is funny as hell….AND STILL.
I truly don’t know how to feel about this.I’m a devin Haney fan I got posters of him on my room I love the way he fights but man this was unbelievable how they didn’t give this to loma
@@relent8595 yeah he did, Haney looked bad for the majority of this fight. At the end of the fight Haney had a look on his face like he just knew he lost. Loma out worked Haney more punches thrown more landed and even landed more jabs than Haney, so tell me how all that is in someone's favor and they lose the fight?
You sound stupid. You mean loma looked like shit too then right? Because this was a close fight and I’m assuming if you’re saying haney looked like shit, Then loma was too right? Delusional🤦🏻♂️ just showed how great haney was if anything
Yall are insane feel like a funeral in these comments 😂😂😂, it was a great close fight, could’ve went either way. LOMA WHOLE FIGHT WASN’T ROUND 10-11😂, I liked Devs body work, jab, 3s and 4s counters rounds 1-7 and you could give Loma a round there but Devin’s clean body shot were the best punch all night Loma never adjusted to them Dev just stopped throwing them along with his Jab, after that + Loma turned up aggressiveness and finally figuring Dev out he won 4 straight with 2 dominant definitive rounds 10-11 then Dev won 12. I have Dev winning by 1 round IN MY OPINION AS A BOXER TO EACH IS OWN. But for dam sure it wasn’t a ROBBERY
It takes a good man and a lot of courage to take a tough position like you're doing but right is right and I think you've gained a lot of respect from your audience for doing so. Since I've come across your channel a few months ago I've been saying this is the best commentary in boxing and the fact that you are able to set your personal relationships aside in favor of the bigger picture, just confirms to me how big your channel is going to get. You are exactly what this sport needs.
I had it 7-5 Haney. There were a lot of close rounds but I always thought the close rounds go to the champ. The only decisive rounds for Loma were 10 & 11 🤷🏾♂️
in my mind, close rounds are ties. too much bias for the champ. if the 2018 warriors lost 111-112 to the cavs nobody would say "oh but the cavs didn't win convincingly". they won. that's all that matters.
@@crunchy1120 Yes but, that's not how boxing is scored. You gotta beat the champ to beat the champ. Basketball scoring is objective. Boxing scoring is subjective: offense, defense, effective aggression and ring generalship. If Fighter A only lands 2 jabs in the entire round, while Fighter B only landed a single hard body shot, who won the round? Subjective... That's why you gotta beat the champ up and make it clear. Only rounds 10 and 11 were clear for Loma.
There are no ifs. You're no better than any judges "if loma didnt win its a draw." You saw the fight and your result was indecisive. I scored it 115-113 for Haney with confidence. That was the score card.
@@TheFunkoPopLegend It’s not indecisive and don’t compare me with those judges. Some of beginning rounds were so close but them body shots Devin was landing Couldn’t possibly had weighed that much & he’d gotten wobbled. My statement is based off the cliche Shìt “you gotta beat the champion to be the champion “ which I dislike but it seems to be true.
Fucking well said and perfect, you’re damn right Loma could have dominated his ass way worse and it would have been a draw. He beat the shit out of Gary Russell and a judge had it for Russell NUFFF SAID
C'mon Showbiz, I watched the entire fight 3 times, once in .5 speed. You can't possibly believe Loma won! Please, do a rewatch, a breakdown, something! You saying Loma was robbed is straight ruining Haney's name right now. Haney took 1,2,4,5,7,8,9 and 12! He deserved that win bro!
No you didn’t stop the cap! If you, rewatched it a million times over loma won! Y’all keep trying to say haney won the early rounds he lost 1 and 2 easy that first round we all say haney get uncomfortable real quick. Y’all need to stop capping.
@@raine- I understand, perhaps you were watching it with your eyes closed and only saw your imagination of Haney not getting outlanded, outboxed, outmaneuvered and pummeled against the ropes. Great cope mechanism you have there
@@hectorcalvo6430 Why would I cope when Haney was the one who walked out with his belts? It seems to me that Loma's fans are the ones coping. Tbh, Haney was never going to win this in the eyes of the people, and the weigh-in sealed the deal.
I had Haney winning. It wasn't a robbery guys. No one likes devin. He s boring. But he won the fight. I hope he runs it back just to shut everyone up. Idk what ward and Tim were watching. Haney was never hurt. It was very competitive though. 9 rounds were literally swing rounds. 9
I'm a fan of both. I picked Devin to win the fight. And still got him winning after the fight. No, it was not a shutout. It was a good entertaining fight. Those happen in boxing sometimes. If you think Loma won, that's fine. But if I say I think Devin won, I'll get the "you just going with him because you are black" comment. If I thought Devin lost, then I would say that. Was it a 12/0.... No. I'm good with 8/4 or 7/5. Dev should try to run it back. Like Floyd did with Castillo and Maidana. However I don't think Loma should run it back. I prefer watching this one over the Loma Teo fight.
I think Devin won. I think Loma had the 2 best rounds but he needed the 12th for the argument to go in his favor. I would of excepted a draw but not a Loma win without the 12th.
I've watched the fight 6 times today on mute.. 7-5 Haney. This was an amazingly close fight. You can argue a draw if anything. I can say that 116-112 is BS. Tbh I wish it was a draw just so I can watch this masterpiece all over again. To call robbery is foul on this one.
You should watch it back Showbiz, I had 7-5 Haney on 2nd watch. A lot of people watched on the ESPN broadcast which was bias towards Loma & in the building it was pro Loma as well. Take a 2nd look at it, this isn’t fair to Haney. That body work was very clean.
He's crowd-pleasing.... Dude gives Devin Haney 4 rounds..... He basically gave Devin Haney 4 rounds...... So the fight we watched..... Devin Haney won 4 rounds..... To each their own
I had Haney winning clearly watching it back and the first time I watched it. That body work and left hooks was getting Loma. Loma had flurries but Haney answered except the 10,11 rd bro.
@@DHILLA-yz4rx One thing we know.... HANEY won round 12. There's a consensus there. ..... With that being said..... SHOWBIZZ believes Devin Haney only won 3 rounds from 1 to 11. ..... What can I say.... I'll just have to respect his opinion.
After re-watching the match, truth be told, it was a clear victory for Haney,8 round to 4round. Lets put emotions and sentiment aside! Lets give Haney his flowers!
Preach Brotha Bizz. That fight hurt everyone. Some might not see it now or understand how, but this could be the main reason why we don't get the big fights. Boxers could be scared to end up being in Loma's shoes and the wrong fighter gets their hand raised
Your wrong Showbizz Devin won that fight go back and watch it again. Devin was up 6-3 at the end of round 9. Lima won rounds 10 and 11 which gave him 5 rounds to 6. Loma need to win the 12th round to make it a draw but he clearly lost the 12th round.
I had Haney winning the fight 7-5. The fight was to close for people to be yelling robbery imo. I bet on Loma and knew I lost my money when the fight was done
@@khalilscott3921loma should pressure haney in round 12 if he want to win that round but its the gone the way around definitely 7-5 but 116-112 is crazy shit
Haney sent like 30 body shots and plenty left hooks to Loma face. Thats real reason Loma crying post-fight. Man is in pain. Where was Loma’s famous step around angle offense..Haney boxed and yall need any excuse
This is why we love you brother. You are a true boxing fan. You don't look at who is fighting, you care about the sport and say it like it is. Boxing has been corrupted for a long time. From Chavez vs Whitaker, Holyfield vs Lennox luis, Pacquiao vs Tim Bradley, Pacquiao vs Jeff Horn, Canelo vs GGG to last week when Rolly Romero was gifted tko victory and now we have this fight Haney vs Loma. This just shows how manipulated and corrupted boxing is. Scorecard of Canelo vs Bivol had all 3 judges 115-113 while we clearly know Bivol won at least 10 rounds. They still tried hard to give the fight to Canelo. This is really sad for boxing. These boxers dedicate their entire life for the sport and it's so unfair that they are robbed like this.
Bro, knock it all the way off! You want ALL them belts, you better make it decisive. You can’t take a champion to the score cards if you only CLEARLY won three rounds. 🤷🏽♂️ #StoppageOrNothing
Love this dudes channel. Boxing owes him for getting people engaged when casuals like me are turning the corner to watch his channel to see whats going on.
I’m not even gone lie man seeing Loma cry like that hit me different and makes me so upset.. I know what it feels like to be the looser of a situation i won !! 😡
I Totally appreciate YOU siding with what is right,...not cheering for Haney, when the whole world saw Loma win- the judges gave a unanimous decision to Haney! WOW! A draw would not be as-as bad, but "unanimous decision!" You gain the world's respect for calling it as it is-"a step back in boxing!" I thank you, may God bless and protect you.amen.
You got exited bro…along with everyone else here in the comments. I listened you live while I was driving home from work and you were saying “Loma’s whooping his ass Loma’s whooping his ass”. You made me feel bad for Loma and bad for boxing. Then I got home and watched the fight. You got exited. No one was whooping anyone’s ass until round 10 and 11. Up until then it was high level with both men having spots of success. Loma clearly won rounds 10 and 11. I would’ve been happy with 115-112 to either fighter or a draw. But this robbery, dark day for boxing BS. Come on bro 🙄
It's so sad the corruption with the boxing judges happens so often and things never get done about it. They just get away with robbing a person of all their hard work
To me, Devin's reaction says it all. You don't react like that if you thought you had it in the bag. I feel like he thought it was at the very least it was 50/50
Yeah aight..... Haney was punishing Loma's body all night....ALLL NIGHT And anytime Loma got a combination the fans AND THE COMMENTATORS were caressing Loma's sack. Biased fans is understandable. They were rooting for Loma before the fight even started. But commentators....That was nasty work.
@nsolo7490 i hear you & personally I think it was close. I probably would've given it to Loma but that's not my poibt. Im saying that I dont think Devin was sure he'd won. You don't celebrate like that for a fight you're sure about. I think he was worried a lil bit.
Just pulled over at a rest area to re-watch the fight showbiz. You are my favorite guy as of late. By me saying, "Haney won a very competitive fight," won't change that bc I give credit that is earned. Loma had moments, but that was all. (I pulled for Loma to win in this re-watch.)
Devin haney won the fight simple loma had the crowd and bias commentary on his side every little thing he did they overreacted ofc it’s going to look like haney lost a close fight is not a robbery 116/112 is bad but still doesn’t change nothing
Haney was out landed and out worked in this fight he landed body shots, Loma forced Haney to work at his pace, threw more punches and landed more as well.
Honestly watching it last night I felt bad I felt like giving Devin a draw would have been generous but after watching it again today with no sound and on .75 speed 7-5 was accurate. Rounds 1,2,4,5,7,9,12 Devin Haney
I had Loma winning that night... Then I rewatched it and wrote down the rounds one by one... I had to apologize on Twitter because last night I said Loma won... But today I know for a fact Haney won... I gave Loma rounds 3 and 4 ... 8 ... 10 and 11 ... 7 to 5 Haney
@@hsny76h4l9 yeah... That night I was on Twitter saying Loma got robbed... Told my boy Gritty from Detroit who said Haney won that they were delusional.... Then I got a pen and paper and scored it ... And each time it was 7 to 5 Haney or 8 to 4 Haney ... But I settled on 7 to 5 Haney... What I think threw me off the night of the fight was that from rounds 8 to 11 Loma won 3 out of those 4 rounds... So that night I thought he got robbed with Haney winning round 12 ... But this is what boxing needed ... A fight so high skilled that you have to watch it again to really see who won
See this what the other channels don’t do they simply ride for the Boxers they like or the Boxers who support them they never stand on the TRUTH when it’s not there Guy You showed character instead of giving your loyalty to the highest bidder Salute YOU
Man, seeing Loma crying in the locker room is heart breaking. The world knows he won
was a draw
He cried for another reason but let’s pretend like you know what you’re talking about
@@relent8595Says who? You?
I guess you know more about boxing than:
Jorge Linares
Eddies Reynoso
Regis Prograis
Richardson Hitchins
Abner Mares
Shakur Stevenson
Keyshawn Davis
Ryan Garcia
Shawn Porter
Terrance Crawford
Robert Garcia
De la Hoya
Showbizz
And you know I can keep going……
Champside said we dont know shit about boxing because the judges are professionals. So in turn hes saying Reagis, Jorge, DeLaHoya, Terrance, Shakur, Showbizz, Real Talk boxing and so on and so on dont know shit about boxing apparently
If Haney lost you'd be saying lol and making fun of him for crying. It was a close fight I think Biz totally missed the mark on his assessments you'd think it was 10-2 Loma the way folk acting. It's not about staying on code Dev won more rounds. Loma's rounds looked better but he won fewer. While we're talking about code I find it ironic how a certain race can support their own post a flag of a country they never lived in support of "their" people with no backlash. But if you think Dev won then you're not honest and just being on code. When you rebuff the points they make they scream 116-112 terrible card
So much respect my brother I feel the same way I was rooting for Devin but I got to be real on what I saw
I agree I have Loma winning. But the real question is How did you score the fight? Because right now I'm seeing sensationalism In my opinion. How many rounds did Devin Haney win?
@durandisse1 7-5 Loma
@@thahomiegio I agree
Loma did not do enough do win stop crying and feeling sorry for loma crying ass..
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Boxing is not a sport anymore, its a buisiness
It’s always been a business, it could be fair business, that’s why you can’t leave it in judges hands!!! we should have AI score the bout
@@romanshilmester5431nah just have them keep going till someone is sleep or one of em want to give up, fuk a decision
@@romanshilmester5431business will never be fair as long as you have elites
They all are.. Texas vs Arizona in World Series was all I needed. Especially watching the calls in the postseason
THIS, is why you’re winning my brotha. Thank you for the content.
Showbizz is delusional, I don’t know what fight he was watchin
@@rootofallevi So you see the same fight as Moretti. You're deluded. Stop race riding and set yourself free cuz
@@benpinder889
That's so disingenuous. Are you race riding? Most everyone had it 7-5 either way or draw to say if you don't think Loma won it's because you're racist is weak debate what you seen or STFU
Bob signed hain 2 days before fight . Robbed
@K Miles 😂😂😂I picked Haney to win fool 💀
Your Honesty and Integrity is Greatly appreciated. One Love! 👊🏾✊🏾👍🏾✌🏾
I appreciate you , big dawg. Honesty no matter what side you stand on is real. & that’s why I’m rockin with your channel. That’s why you’re #1 voice of this sport rn.
Exactly
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YEAP exactly... I sAw loma win too bro .. tf do "ppl" do tis BS ❤ u b
Loma didn't do enuff to win that fight😅😅😅 get out y'all feelings
@@whatthe387 Haney won 14 rounds 🤡
Bro, thank you for being real. In times like this in boxing, it’s so easy to just go along with what the judges say. But it’s moments like this in the past that have dealt boxing it’s biggest blows. I want the sport to survive, and in order for it to continue the moment it’s been on, something needs to finally be done about these judges. There has to be another way.
Guys I don't know wtf ur talking about. Haney won the fight. It was competitive no question. But I had it 116_112 Haney. And I had money on Loma knocking Haney out. Haney won the fight. They can run it back but I'm warning u now next time it'll b worse for Loma. Great fighter. But makes excuses every loss.
@@briancobbin1412 who tf are you again? The whole boxing world has called robbery but it’s ok because Brian Cobbin scored 116-112 😂
@@davidortiz9577 if u say so man. This was a competitive fight. I don't have a problem w anyone giving Loma the nod but this was not a robbery. No one really likes Haney. Boring fighter. But he won the fight
@@briancobbin1412 a unanimous decision? 116-112 with Morretti giving the last 6 - 7 rounds to Haney. Sorry, straight bull 💩 and corruption no doubt. This was a money decision. They had no intentions of letting Loma walk away to Ukraine with those belts
@@davidortiz9577 🤣🤣🤣🤣💦🎅
That's why I like this channel. 100% honest!
Honest.
Still wrong, nevertheless.
Haney won that fight. And if you watch the fightbin mute, that becomes obvious.
Me too. Bizz def the Truth. Never really bias. Boxing iq up to par &,☝🏽….actually Entertaining. Rarely are you gonna get it all in 1 spot. 🥊💪🏽💯
Do you think it was a fair decision? What should Lomachenko/Haney do next? Despite the wrong or right decision, both fighters gave us an incredible fight.
How did you score the fight Bizz?
No it wasn't they screwed Loma I watched it from 1-12 he pressed him the whole fight the ref was great short breaks in the clinch he allowed them to box we gotta clean up the sport if it's the ref in one fight (rolle) or the judges in this one
Def not a fair decision I had it even the first half, then Loma turning it up a notch in the middle and end. The fight was an instant classic though, no doubt. Haney should fight Shakur, and the winner of that match up needs to fight Tank. As for Loma idk man..maybe take a break for a little while to clear his head and mind and while at that try to get that appeal going for the fight?
@@Big_SPIC You don't get points for pressing the fight. You got to land punches. I still had Lomachenko winning But the real question is..... How many rounds did you give Devin Haney?
You don't know boxing you had Haney winning once LOma Whipped him oh my bad I made a mistake
Boxing didn't fail us. It's what happens in a 50/50 fight. It was just closer than we have seen in a long time. One round win for either guy is just as fair as a draw. Not a robbery it's literally fight of the year.
Facts idk why everyone in their feelings 🤣
Poor girl haney got whooped
Mad respect to you brother, you’re making boxing better although these robberies hurt us so much.
I NEVER felt sick like this after a decision when loma cried bro i knew i couldnt look at boxing the same
Lol go cry a river. Everytime Loma loses it's some type of excuse from his fans
@@jbrown1441I'm sad to, but atleast I can laugh about g. Floyd vs d. Chauvin
@J Brown an escuse ? You replied to my comment to say that ? Lol brotha plz
@@jbrown1441 beat the shit outta pillow hands haney shotgun nose stayed getting pushed in
@@landofallon8515 Yall said the same thing after Loma lost to Teo. Go watch the fight again, I watched it twice and Devin wins clearer on second watch minus the emotions and bs ESPN commentary. Devin won most of the early rnds Loma came on late as usual. AND STILL UNDISPUTED CHAMP!!!
Man your honesty is what makes this channel great.
@K Miles & you lying to yourself
@@EvilDead_EditzLoma won. Haney is overated and never fought a top elite and loma exposed him.
@@EvilDead_Editz you do realize Lomas face was not swollen right? He didn't have a blistered face. Loma is a white guy so it's easier to see his marks compared to Haneys marks cause Haney is already baked so try harder.
“A close fight is not a robbery”
-Greg Hackett
Who moron
It was close after 8 not after 12
@@bodanlunny1323 And then Haney won the 12th and the fight itself.
You race fans will never admit that Haney lost , your bias isn’t helping the cause
@@themarathoncontinues2289 Race? No. Logic? Yes. Haney won. You just don’t know the sport. Get over it.
It’s a slap in my face as a fan of this beautiful sport.
Loma didn’t deserve that loss. He is the real winner. Shame on those judges; I hope they can somehow rule it as a no contest and run that fight back.
Man seeeing Loma break down into tears really let me know how much this fight and becoming undisputed meant. These men put their hearts and body on the line and to see him lose like this. It’s really heartbreaking and made me tear up a lil man smh
That was hard to watch, especially when you know the entire backstory and you KNOW he was robbed. Definitely one of the saddest moments in modern boxing. Not taking nothing from Haney, but this robbery was highly detrimental to the sport of boxing.
He didnt do enough to beat the champ hes being a damn sore loser ever loss he has excuses
Haney is the man & still!
@@junebug231985 It’s crazy the contrast between Haney fanboys and fans of boxing. The fans of boxing are mostly blaming the commission, the judges, and Top Rank for what happened last night. And then you got the Haney fanboys (who really DKSAB) who are out here blaming Loma and attacking Loma because Haney was gifted a decision.
Maaan stop with the soft music cry baby crap. The fight was judged correctly. Haney outboxed him through 8 rds . 9 10 11 was all lomo……12 went to Haney win this fight. Lomo did not do enough to win this fight. OMG Tim Bradly was so bias he was creating his own reality pathetic. Lomo don’t want to run it back, he vacated the belt when Haney was in his prime 4 years ago because he didn’t want the smoke. man the cognitive dissonance in this thread is funny as hell….AND STILL.
I truly don’t know how to feel about this.I’m a devin Haney fan I got posters of him on my room I love the way he fights but man this was unbelievable how they didn’t give this to loma
The cap. 😂😂😂😂
You got posters of him on your wall? How old are you? Just curious…
DEVIN WON
Thats boxing . Don’t worry cause Haney has a big future with time on his hands to grow 🥊
@@TraderRY 15
Dont ever change showbizz couse real man can put his emotions aside and stick to truth and you are a real man
I cant believe they robed this man and thats all loma has we love you loma
Lomo was robbed for sure. Devin looked like shit out there
Looked lik shit but was picking loma ass off all night? You giy take 3-4 good rds and always say oh that person won
nah
@@relent8595 yeah he did, Haney looked bad for the majority of this fight. At the end of the fight Haney had a look on his face like he just knew he lost. Loma out worked Haney more punches thrown more landed and even landed more jabs than Haney, so tell me how all that is in someone's favor and they lose the fight?
You sound stupid. You mean loma looked like shit too then right? Because this was a close fight and I’m assuming if you’re saying haney looked like shit, Then loma was too right? Delusional🤦🏻♂️ just showed how great haney was if anything
Ok not let's not lie it was still a close fight
Where was all this when Loma got the decision over Ortiz. SMH
For reals 🤣🤣🤣
People need to judge with they eyes and not the sound 💯 That was no robbery we need the bias out of boxing simple and plain
Bruh im saying lol maybe im tripping. It was close but Haney put in work it was a tough fight. Announcers was drooling on Loma whole fight
True indeed
Ward had to keep Bradley inline fir most of the fight
Facts!!!
The legs and the eyes of Devin on those Loma punches ( Lord have Mercy with the body shots ) told the entire story…
Loma WON!!!
Yall are insane feel like a funeral in these comments 😂😂😂, it was a great close fight, could’ve went either way. LOMA WHOLE FIGHT WASN’T ROUND 10-11😂, I liked Devs body work, jab, 3s and 4s counters rounds 1-7 and you could give Loma a round there but Devin’s clean body shot were the best punch all night Loma never adjusted to them Dev just stopped throwing them along with his Jab, after that + Loma turned up aggressiveness and finally figuring Dev out he won 4 straight with 2 dominant definitive rounds 10-11 then Dev won 12. I have Dev winning by 1 round IN MY OPINION AS A BOXER TO EACH IS OWN. But for dam sure it wasn’t a ROBBERY
Thank you for speaking the truth, I really like Haney but people keep getting robbed by the judges and refs
Thank showbizz this is why I love your channel keeping it real !!
It takes a good man and a lot of courage to take a tough position like you're doing but right is right and I think you've gained a lot of respect from your audience for doing so. Since I've come across your channel a few months ago I've been saying this is the best commentary in boxing and the fact that you are able to set your personal relationships aside in favor of the bigger picture, just confirms to me how big your channel is going to get. You are exactly what this sport needs.
Well said 👍
Welcome to the community🎉
I had it 7-5 Haney. There were a lot of close rounds but I always thought the close rounds go to the champ. The only decisive rounds for Loma were 10 & 11 🤷🏾♂️
Look at 10 again. On mute
@@parisjackson7136 Who did you give round 10 to?
in my mind, close rounds are ties. too much bias for the champ. if the 2018 warriors lost 111-112 to the cavs nobody would say "oh but the cavs didn't win convincingly". they won. that's all that matters.
@@crunchy1120 Yes but, that's not how boxing is scored. You gotta beat the champ to beat the champ. Basketball scoring is objective. Boxing scoring is subjective: offense, defense, effective aggression and ring generalship. If Fighter A only lands 2 jabs in the entire round, while Fighter B only landed a single hard body shot, who won the round? Subjective... That's why you gotta beat the champ up and make it clear. Only rounds 10 and 11 were clear for Loma.
@@MeditationMusicKobaltBooks okay so the rest were ties? 120-118 loma then
If Loma didn’t win , it was supposed to be a draw
No the Real Winner won .DEVIN.
There are no ifs. You're no better than any judges "if loma didnt win its a draw." You saw the fight and your result was indecisive. I scored it 115-113 for Haney with confidence. That was the score card.
@@TheFunkoPopLegend It’s not indecisive and don’t compare me with those judges. Some of beginning rounds were so close but them body shots Devin was landing Couldn’t possibly had weighed that much & he’d gotten wobbled. My statement is based off the cliche Shìt “you gotta beat the champion to be the champion “ which I dislike but it seems to be true.
@@tgtwane125bro If the result is a draw, who will go to the title?
Fucking well said and perfect, you’re damn right Loma could have dominated his ass way worse and it would have been a draw. He beat the shit out of Gary Russell and a judge had it for Russell NUFFF SAID
C'mon Showbiz, I watched the entire fight 3 times, once in .5 speed. You can't possibly believe Loma won! Please, do a rewatch, a breakdown, something! You saying Loma was robbed is straight ruining Haney's name right now. Haney took 1,2,4,5,7,8,9 and 12! He deserved that win bro!
No you didn’t stop the cap! If you, rewatched it a million times over loma won! Y’all keep trying to say haney won the early rounds he lost 1 and 2 easy that first round we all say haney get uncomfortable real quick. Y’all need to stop capping.
try watching it without the bias
I watched the same fight 3 times, once on .5 speed. I was searching for the reason Loma won, and couldn't find it at all.
@@raine- I understand, perhaps you were watching it with your eyes closed and only saw your imagination of Haney not getting outlanded, outboxed, outmaneuvered and pummeled against the ropes. Great cope mechanism you have there
@@hectorcalvo6430 Why would I cope when Haney was the one who walked out with his belts? It seems to me that Loma's fans are the ones coping. Tbh, Haney was never going to win this in the eyes of the people, and the weigh-in sealed the deal.
That was the best boxing fight I’ve seen in a long time!!! Loma was robbed 😤 of the championship belts... That is the politics of boxing.
I had Haney winning. It wasn't a robbery guys. No one likes devin. He s boring. But he won the fight. I hope he runs it back just to shut everyone up. Idk what ward and Tim were watching. Haney was never hurt. It was very competitive though. 9 rounds were literally swing rounds. 9
115 113 equals 7/5 Devin actually won man everyone needs to watch the fight again without the commentary being turned up
And without listening to the biased crowd
I'm a fan of both. I picked Devin to win the fight. And still got him winning after the fight. No, it was not a shutout. It was a good entertaining fight.
Those happen in boxing sometimes.
If you think Loma won, that's fine. But if I say I think Devin won, I'll get the "you just going with him because you are black" comment.
If I thought Devin lost, then I would say that. Was it a 12/0.... No. I'm good with 8/4 or 7/5.
Dev should try to run it back. Like Floyd did with Castillo and Maidana.
However I don't think Loma should run it back.
I prefer watching this one over the Loma Teo fight.
I think Devin won. I think Loma had the 2 best rounds but he needed the 12th for the argument to go in his favor. I would of excepted a draw but not a Loma win without the 12th.
I watched it on mute, Loma won
No. He. Didn’t
I've watched the fight 6 times today on mute.. 7-5 Haney. This was an amazingly close fight. You can argue a draw if anything. I can say that 116-112 is BS. Tbh I wish it was a draw just so I can watch this masterpiece all over again. To call robbery is foul on this one.
Yeah 7-5 Haney was the right score everyone just getting all emotional after seeing Little Loma get pushed and then crying after the fight
😂
You should watch it back Showbiz, I had 7-5 Haney on 2nd watch. A lot of people watched on the ESPN broadcast which was bias towards Loma & in the building it was pro Loma as well. Take a 2nd look at it, this isn’t fair to Haney. That body work was very clean.
He's crowd-pleasing.... Dude gives Devin Haney 4 rounds..... He basically gave Devin Haney 4 rounds...... So the fight we watched..... Devin Haney won 4 rounds..... To each their own
I did
I had Haney winning clearly watching it back and the first time I watched it. That body work and left hooks was getting Loma. Loma had flurries but Haney answered except the 10,11 rd bro.
@@DHILLA-yz4rx One thing we know.... HANEY won round 12. There's a consensus there. ..... With that being said..... SHOWBIZZ believes Devin Haney only won 3 rounds from 1 to 11. ..... What can I say.... I'll just have to respect his opinion.
@@ShowBizzTheAdultdamn man you making me feel like I gotta watch it again 😂.. I respect your opinion Show Biz, it is what it is.
I love this channel for always telling the truth no matter what ❤
After re-watching the match, truth be told, it was a clear victory for Haney,8 round to 4round. Lets put emotions and sentiment aside! Lets give Haney his flowers!
A close fight is not a robbery.
Close but CLEAR is a robbery
@@ThunderDomeBoxingTalk you never judged a fight a day in your life please stfu
It was a close fight but it was obvious who was in control most the fight
@@footballbeast6002 yea the person who busted the other guys face up and tore his mid section up
He never once said “robbery” Devin still lost the fight even though it was close so what’s your point related to the video?
Watched the fight back , I had Haney 7-5
Then you should stop watching boxing....
@@aimranomar8724 and you probably never boxed in your life
@@AgainstTheRopesWithDos and you probably never win boxed in your life ~
@@aimranomar8724 go to my page
I watched it back & still gave it to loma
I rewatched it twice loma shots were so clear and haney shots weren’t more on the arms etc
Preach Brotha Bizz. That fight hurt everyone. Some might not see it now or understand how, but this could be the main reason why we don't get the big fights. Boxers could be scared to end up being in Loma's shoes and the wrong fighter gets their hand raised
Your wrong Showbizz Devin won that fight go back and watch it again. Devin was up 6-3 at the end of round 9. Lima won rounds 10 and 11 which gave him 5 rounds to 6. Loma need to win the 12th round to make it a draw but he clearly lost the 12th round.
Exactly how I had it
Be honest man Haney didn’t win a round after 4 or 5 until the 12
Compubox said Loma Outlanded haney in the 12th
Ur an honest man it's rare nowadays 👍
I had Haney winning the fight 7-5. The fight was to close for people to be yelling robbery imo. I bet on Loma and knew I lost my money when the fight was done
Thanks for being honest 🫡
We seen the same fight lol
Gtfoh you don’t know how to score obviously
Agreed
@@khalilscott3921loma should pressure haney in round 12 if he want to win that round but its the gone the way around definitely 7-5 but 116-112 is crazy shit
Must have been kissed seeing an even fright after 8, then Loma whooping his ass 3 of the last 4…..then the decision, you got cheated out of money
Aye man you earned yourself a subscriber.
To all the professional boxers out there, knock your opponents out, that’s the only way you are guaranteed a clean win!
Brother ! You are a true boxing fan and a true fan is never bias!👍🏻🥊
Haney won that fight. Ive watched it 3x's. The judges definitely got it right.
10th round was not remotely close
Loma beat Haney 115-113
Haney sent like 30 body shots and plenty left hooks to Loma face. Thats real reason Loma crying post-fight. Man is in pain. Where was Loma’s famous step around angle offense..Haney boxed and yall need any excuse
This is why we love you brother. You are a true boxing fan. You don't look at who is fighting, you care about the sport and say it like it is. Boxing has been corrupted for a long time. From Chavez vs Whitaker, Holyfield vs Lennox luis, Pacquiao vs Tim Bradley, Pacquiao vs Jeff Horn, Canelo vs GGG to last week when Rolly Romero was gifted tko victory and now we have this fight Haney vs Loma. This just shows how manipulated and corrupted boxing is. Scorecard of Canelo vs Bivol had all 3 judges 115-113 while we clearly know Bivol won at least 10 rounds. They still tried hard to give the fight to Canelo. This is really sad for boxing. These boxers dedicate their entire life for the sport and it's so unfair that they are robbed like this.
those belts came around full circle for a reason.
Much respect to anybody that’s unbiased 🫡
This is why your channel is number one. Whether you a Haney fan or Loma fan. You are a boxing fan first. Loma deserved that victory. Closed fight
No he didn't.
Y'all are hopped up on Loma nostalgia.
Haney CLEARLY won more rounds.
The boxing judges don’t even try to hide their corruption anymore!!! This was pitiful!
maybe they had to do it that way.
Much respect for you saying that thank you very much 👍👏🤝👊✊🫵The man ✌️🥊
Devin won a close fight. 7-5 is the closest you can get to a draw. Any decision in a close fight is a good decision
That’s tough. I appreciate your sincerity brother. And you had incentive to back it up.
Thanks for not being biased. Helps to absorb the breakdowns when people aren't just fanboys
this why im still subscribed to u my brother, keep it real bizz
Seriously one of those judges was called Tim CHEATham….
Lived up to his name!
Bro, knock it all the way off! You want ALL them belts, you better make it decisive. You can’t take a champion to the score cards if you only CLEARLY won three rounds. 🤷🏽♂️ #StoppageOrNothing
Stoppage or nothing? If that's the case there's no reason to have scores at all.
The judges literal name is: CHEATHIM
Love this dudes channel. Boxing owes him for getting people engaged when casuals like me are turning the corner to watch his channel to see whats going on.
Facts Bizz... I feel so bad for Loma he worked so hard to get there and its taken from him!!!
Dude, it was disheartening to see him cry man i can't imagine the pain
I watched the whole fight over and over and I swear I got Haney winning
I keep telling people to watch it again. Stop letting the media fool you. Haney won the fight yet a close but he won
One thing for sure is Lomachenko Sr created a winner. All Loma does is win!
Can’t call a close fight a robbery
I’m not even gone lie man seeing Loma cry like that hit me different and makes me so upset.. I know what it feels like to be the looser of a situation i won !! 😡
🎻🎻🎻🎻🎻🤣🤣🤣🤣
Stop it!! 🧢 Loma did not do enough to take all of Devin’s belts that was a close fight that went Haney’s way.
Well that's what alot of black people will say.
Been on UA-cam for a dozen years daily. Haven't once felt the need to comment, but you earned yourself a follow and all the respect in the world.
Love you bro, you the man.
I appreciate you man, that's why you are the face of boxing commentary.
Cut it out. Devin won more rounds fair and square. Loma just had more moments. Boxing isn’t scored like that.
This was a closer fight than your making it out to be. This was no robbery. It could have gone either way.
Nope
I Totally appreciate YOU siding with what is right,...not cheering for Haney, when the whole world saw Loma win- the judges gave a unanimous decision to Haney! WOW! A draw would not be as-as bad, but "unanimous decision!" You gain the world's respect for calling it as it is-"a step back in boxing!" I thank you, may God bless and protect you.amen.
Haney won.
You got exited bro…along with everyone else here in the comments. I listened you live while I was driving home from work and you were saying “Loma’s whooping his ass Loma’s whooping his ass”. You made me feel bad for Loma and bad for boxing. Then I got home and watched the fight. You got exited. No one was whooping anyone’s ass until round 10 and 11. Up until then it was high level with both men having spots of success. Loma clearly won rounds 10 and 11. I would’ve been happy with 115-112 to either fighter or a draw. But this robbery, dark day for boxing BS. Come on bro 🙄
He's buck dancing for his core audience of white racists. He's just another Stephen A Smith.
It's so sad the corruption with the boxing judges happens so often and things never get done about it. They just get away with robbing a person of all their hard work
To me, Devin's reaction says it all. You don't react like that if you thought you had it in the bag. I feel like he thought it was at the very least it was 50/50
Yeah aight.....
Haney was punishing Loma's body all night....ALLL NIGHT
And anytime Loma got a combination the fans AND THE COMMENTATORS were caressing Loma's sack.
Biased fans is understandable. They were rooting for Loma before the fight even started. But commentators....That was nasty work.
@nsolo7490 i hear you & personally I think it was close. I probably would've given it to Loma but that's not my poibt. Im saying that I dont think Devin was sure he'd won. You don't celebrate like that for a fight you're sure about. I think he was worried a lil bit.
The 116-112 judge in favor of Haney needs to be investigated
Finally a brother that is not a bias
All other fight fans are biased against black fighters
Man bruh love everything about this video ! About to subscribe respect the honesty
These bloody judges should be held accountable for their actions...
Boxing will never be number 1 with judges like these !
Nobody beats the Bizz!!!!!
Sheesh you can say that again! Good grief… 1st we get a 10-10rd when Tank knocks down Ryan and now this!? Smh good grief!
Just imagine if Loma wasn’t the smaller man 😳
Thank you for keeping it 💯🥊🥊
Devin won the fight 😂😂 it’s crazy how decisive it was
Showbizz my brother you a real one!
Damn 😢💯 Loma will rise again even better next time man Loma did his thing forreal
No he won't he has lost several times and he will lose several more if he fights the top fighters
Nope 😂
Hats off to you to say it like it is even if you have reason to be bias. Boxing is weird these days. The month of May has been trash
Just pulled over at a rest area to re-watch the fight showbiz. You are my favorite guy as of late. By me saying, "Haney won a very competitive fight," won't change that bc I give credit that is earned. Loma had moments, but that was all. (I pulled for Loma to win in this re-watch.)
Devin haney won the fight simple loma had the crowd and bias commentary on his side every little thing he did they overreacted ofc it’s going to look like haney lost a close fight is not a robbery 116/112 is bad but still doesn’t change nothing
Frfr
Oh yeah lol I asked him how he scored the fight..... Dude gave Devin Haney 4 rounds. SHOWBIZZ the Adult... He gave Devin Haney 4 rounds.
@@Steve_Takes he gave devin 4 rnds? 😂
Nah
Haney was out landed and out worked in this fight he landed body shots, Loma forced Haney to work at his pace, threw more punches and landed more as well.
And that the reason why I like this channel it’s real all the time
Honestly watching it last night I felt bad I felt like giving Devin a draw would have been generous but after watching it again today with no sound and on .75 speed 7-5 was accurate. Rounds 1,2,4,5,7,9,12 Devin Haney
Thank u ash
I had Loma winning that night... Then I rewatched it and wrote down the rounds one by one... I had to apologize on Twitter because last night I said Loma won... But today I know for a fact Haney won... I gave Loma rounds 3 and 4 ... 8 ... 10 and 11 ... 7 to 5 Haney
Thank u for being honest
@@hsny76h4l9 yeah... That night I was on Twitter saying Loma got robbed... Told my boy Gritty from Detroit who said Haney won that they were delusional.... Then I got a pen and paper and scored it ... And each time it was 7 to 5 Haney or 8 to 4 Haney ... But I settled on 7 to 5 Haney... What I think threw me off the night of the fight was that from rounds 8 to 11 Loma won 3 out of those 4 rounds... So that night I thought he got robbed with Haney winning round 12 ... But this is what boxing needed ... A fight so high skilled that you have to watch it again to really see who won
Didn't expected nothing else from someone like you ........ Haney won he is the truth , better than Shakur .
How’s that meat taste?
@@nellyc3669 stop asking dumb ass questions, quit hating it's not good for your blood pressure and definitely your mental health
@@nellyc3669 How does the tears taste!?!?
@@nellyc3669 tastes like dic* 🤣
Bro said better than shakur 😂😂😂
Thats why I like your channel. Agree or disagree you do your best to be honest , fair and truthful.
Dude you already gave away the glove 😂
This man 🧢🧢🧢🧢
Welcome to the era of Devin "The American Dream" Haney.🔥🥊
That "Haney's are my brothers" is definitely disingenuous. Fam, when Devin's hand was raised you almost did a Loma & broke out in tears.
He playing both sides I couldn't even mess with him nomore if I was Devin's team
That’s because he saw the fight and saw who actually won
@@terrellnesbitt8835 I saw the fight an think Devin one.... GTA come harder to beat the Champ
Man that was sad that man won 💯 percent
See this what the other channels don’t do they simply ride for the Boxers they like or the Boxers who support them they never stand on the TRUTH when it’s not there Guy You showed character instead of giving your loyalty to the highest bidder Salute YOU