FFVII Rebirth - Cloud & Zack, Bonds of Friendship (No Magic, Stylish Combo)

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  • Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
  • Final fantasy 7 rebirth, Legendary Bout - Bonds of Friendship
    Cloud & Zack gameplay
    Titan 00:00
    Hueyacoatl 01:34
    Phoenix 03:32
    Brineborn Demon 05:35
    Kujata 06:37
    Ironclad 9:34
    Alexander 11:15
    Mindflayer 12:30
    Bahamut Arisen 14:07
    Odin 17:03
    Time & Build 19:14
    ff7rebirth cloud vs Bonds of friendship
    ff7rebirth zack vs Bonds of friendship
    stylish no magic
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  • @fable23
    @fable23 Місяць тому +190

    Watching this video and seeing them fight side-by-side, I've only just now noticed how differently Zack and Cloud use the Buster Sword. Zack swings that thing like it weighs nothing, whereas in Cloud's hands it feels very heavy and powerful. A great, subtle way to demonstrate the differences between them: Zack having gone through actual SOLDIER treatment and the training that comes with it, whereas Cloud only got the fucked up Hojo version, and is mostly mimicking Zack's style through his own messed up memories. It's in pretty much all over their animations, but it's most visible in their victory animations; Cloud's sword twirl is very clearly an imitation of Zack's, but Zack spins it a lot faster and smoother.

    • @user-sm6gn3nl6o
      @user-sm6gn3nl6o Місяць тому +41

      That's why AC Cloud fight with 6 swords that fuse into 1. He is developing his own style.

    • @verynormalguy7352
      @verynormalguy7352 Місяць тому +61

      I don’t think it’s because of the difference in strength (they’re gone through same physical enhancement), both Cloud and Zack swing Buster Sword like it’s a paper sword. The real difference is their combat style and swordsmanship.
      Cloud handle his sword in pretty methodical way, so it feel weighty and organized. He also rely more on technique and “I have to look cool” factor which is why most of his move look smooth and flow like sword dance, one of his main gimmick in gameplay is counter. Cloud might copy many move from Zack and Sephiroth, but he adapt all of them to his own preference so it totally feel like his style.
      Zack on the other hand, he clearly is a freestyle fighter, he swing the sword fast and wild, throwing punch and kick into the mix, fight however he want with no clear form. Zack love freedom down to his own fighting style. Dude just smack things hard and fast until it done, simple and clean just like his personality.
      Their combat style can’t be anymore different even if some of their move look similar.

    • @charlesthomas708
      @charlesthomas708 Місяць тому +9

      @@verynormalguy7352this. Zack is more free form also utilizing punches and kicks. I really like how they differentiate both their styles

    • @Chaddingway
      @Chaddingway Місяць тому +16

      ​@@user-sm6gn3nl6o One thing I like about AC Cloud is how his Fusion Sword is symbolic of his journey. It took several people to piece him together so that he could become whole again. They're the pieces that support him and allow him to become the strongest version of himself.

    • @theplatdream26
      @theplatdream26 Місяць тому +5

      ​@@verynormalguy7352 I think also cloud did get sword training too while working for shinra, so he's not fully copying what he's seen from Zack. He is quite proficient with swords on his own but the jenova cells for sure souped him up. But another difference is that when dodging Zack definitely feels faster and I think it just comes down to Zack having more years of combat experience than cloud.

  • @meteor22
    @meteor22 Місяць тому +23

    If only they allowed you to play Zack and Sephiroth in all the VR missions as an extra reward for beating those 2 challenges. Seems like such an obvious thing to do.

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  Місяць тому +2

      Yes... Maybe with mods on PC version.

  • @cjtheman2985
    @cjtheman2985 27 днів тому +6

    19:12
    Zack: Why are you posing with the sword
    Cloud: It's my thing Zack

  • @Collin255
    @Collin255 Місяць тому +8

    Incredible. It took me so many attempts to finally beat this WITH magic. Truly impressive!

  • @michaelmachabee7106
    @michaelmachabee7106 Місяць тому +16

    I've been waiting for more of your incredibly beautiful Rebirth gameplay.

  • @vicdaman
    @vicdaman Місяць тому +5

    This is insanely impressive. I can only hope to get even half as good as you. Amazing work. Thank you.

  • @andykim6123
    @andykim6123 Місяць тому +20

    This is the most impressive display of skill I’ve seen, and I’ve seen like 100 videos of Combat Simulator videos. Hats off to you sir, I can’t imagine how long it took you to get to this point

    • @DOC_951
      @DOC_951 10 днів тому

      Idk… watching people do Aerith no hit solo on “rulers of the over world” is very impressive lol

  • @josetomascamposrobledano4618
    @josetomascamposrobledano4618 6 днів тому +1

    While the inexperienced in FF7 might think that the victory pose of Cloud VS Zack shows that Cloud “needs practice”.
    In truth the reason is that Zack from Rebirth is a Crisis Core Reunion Port.
    Original FF7 was the one who started the spin so the Re-sequel version might have been an attempt to make the victory pose “realistic”.

  • @emptymelodies3316
    @emptymelodies3316 Місяць тому +2

    THIS is what I’ve been looking for. Some _style_

  • @LivncA_Dis3
    @LivncA_Dis3 22 дні тому +1

    Another one, jeez this is fun to watch!
    God tier gameplay!

  • @NotSoFat
    @NotSoFat Місяць тому +7

    Insanely great! Perfect cloud+zack combo and in jp dub! Looked like a 2v1 battle

  • @chrisvalen
    @chrisvalen Місяць тому +2

    Good job man keep up the awesome vids

  • @jaredwalla3064
    @jaredwalla3064 Місяць тому +1

    You are what Imagine what I look like when I play. So much skill and practice; you are very good!!

  • @letpcreation1490
    @letpcreation1490 Місяць тому +20

    For people that are saying this game is easy and it is just about smashing the attack button, they’re clearly mistaken. This is about skills , timing and so much more in which you clearly have. Well done !

    • @WL-bs4nc
      @WL-bs4nc Місяць тому +3

      As someone who still can’t beat Bahamut in the first game, I 100% agree

    • @cjtheman2985
      @cjtheman2985 27 днів тому +1

      Whoever said that this game is easy button mashing clearly has not played it

  • @mayrokspsn9068
    @mayrokspsn9068 Місяць тому +1

    Nice one , similar to my but I use cloud more for supporting Zack , while I’m spamming high braver , nice vid and Aerial onslaught is top tier

  • @ty4ler416
    @ty4ler416 Місяць тому +1

    Finally a non magic build video …. I’ve beaten this challenge 15 or so times , there are so much combat options but people just Vito to magic cuz it’s easy …. Good job man

  • @aali4726
    @aali4726 15 днів тому

    Wow magnificent work u make it look easy just wow impressive wish I could be hf as good GG man

  • @supergaara2
    @supergaara2 Місяць тому +2

    I love this duo. Cloud and Zack are 2 of my favourite characters of all FF. This gameplay is amazing!
    Have you ever noticed that the voice actors of Sting (the guy with blond hair) and Rogue (the guy with black hair) from Fairy Tail are Takahiro Sakurai and Kenichi Suzumura, just like Cloud and Zack? Do you think that this is a coincidence or a reference to FF7?

  • @rifakcaz9393
    @rifakcaz9393 Місяць тому +5

    Zack Combat mechanics definitely way harder than cloud but i think they gonna tweak it for the next game so more Casual player can find it easier to use him

    • @phantom-X2086
      @phantom-X2086 29 днів тому

      He's pretty easy once you get the charge timing down. But that's just me.

    • @PrincessNine
      @PrincessNine 20 днів тому +1

      It's melee, pause for a beat, press triangle. It's actually easy, despite the speed zack swings, you're really meant to pause for 1 Mississippi or so ya. Issue is picking up the timing in a sink or situation is extremely impractical

  • @Daxma006
    @Daxma006 Місяць тому +1

    I didn't know TAS was on ps5 yet.
    Oh, it's not TAS? Nice of god to visit us!

  • @Andreaperepe
    @Andreaperepe Місяць тому +4

    How do you jump with cloud like that? Also how do you get in the air after braver to do aerial onslaught? I thought you had to dodge and hold attack to launch yourself in the air…

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  Місяць тому +4

      Prime mode ability + triangle

    • @hwp8729
      @hwp8729 Місяць тому

      Wow i didnt know that you have the freedom to move with prime mode triangle. I thought it was just standing jump

  • @WRATHOFW1LL
    @WRATHOFW1LL Місяць тому

    what is the immune is that you doing perfect blocks? If so I will probably never get this far lol.

  • @hawashiamarunaga9917
    @hawashiamarunaga9917 Місяць тому +5

    Big brother and little brother energy.

    • @This_Is_TinN
      @This_Is_TinN Місяць тому

      I screamed "BROTHER" like Liquid Snake does when I realized I was gonna fight Sephiroth with Zack in my playthrough lol

    • @hawashiamarunaga9917
      @hawashiamarunaga9917 Місяць тому

      @@This_Is_TinN 😂😂😂Right!

  • @pantsubegoox7370
    @pantsubegoox7370 Місяць тому

    a true legendary skill 👍

  • @cloudcs
    @cloudcs Місяць тому +4

    Thought you gonna do this solo lol. Glad to see you see the value of prime mode

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  Місяць тому +5

      I like to use it for positioning. Zack solo is very long, and it's hard to make it clean, so i paused this challenge and tried this one. And i loved it.

    • @cloudcs
      @cloudcs Місяць тому

      @@Avtenom You gonna try this challenge Cloud solo next?

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  Місяць тому +1

      @@cloudcs Maybe, if i have time. Need to play FF16 and Stellar Blade is coming soon

  • @user-mm5zf2ey4g
    @user-mm5zf2ey4g Місяць тому +1

    I still think its funny to see Zack do Holy Order Sol cancels.

  • @CloudStrife777FF
    @CloudStrife777FF 20 днів тому

    Serious question, how do you do that jump with cloud out of nowhere??? I need to know, it seems useful as hell and much quicker than holding ranged attack. Is it by pressing triangle mid attack during prime mode?

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  19 днів тому +1

      Yes. Prime mode + triangle

  • @SergyAZ
    @SergyAZ 28 днів тому

    EPIC!!!

  • @rinnegan3754
    @rinnegan3754 Місяць тому +1

    How do you do these quick counters in punisher/prime mode before cloud finishes the counterattack animation?

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  Місяць тому

      Press R1

    • @rinnegan3754
      @rinnegan3754 Місяць тому

      @@Avtenom Thanks, for some reason I thought it didn’t work like that and would often get hit during the counterattack animation. Beautiful gameplay, refreshing to see something that isn’t hpmp swap 😁

  • @chrislee5268
    @chrislee5268 Місяць тому +12

    Jesus, this combat really blows XVI's out of the water... Goes to show that you can have stylish action without sacrificing what makes a game feel like FF (A party, buffs/debuffs/status effects)...

  • @therealchecho1868
    @therealchecho1868 Місяць тому

    This is the sexiest video of rebirth that I’ve seen

  • @cooperlittlehales6268
    @cooperlittlehales6268 17 днів тому

    Interesting to note that Zack and Cloud sheathe their swords differently. Cloud sheathes his blade up, while Zack sheathes his blade down. Wonder if that's an experience thing or personal preference.

    • @noxlumine
      @noxlumine 9 днів тому

      More of a reference to how they fight. To Cloud, the Buster Sword is a big friggin sword.
      Zack inherited it from Angeal, who never used the blade itself due to "use bringing about wear, tear, and rust". Storywise, Zack uses the flat of the Buster Sword more like a club- but obviously that would be more of a pain to animate.

  • @sorasmalls294
    @sorasmalls294 Місяць тому +6

    Best duo in the game, unfortunately I cant play with zack here because im bad at the game and cant get there

  • @ShadeKazin
    @ShadeKazin Місяць тому

    How did you get Cloud to use ATB without the slowdown?

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  Місяць тому +1

      By using shortcuts. You can define them in Combat settings.

  • @eauvni
    @eauvni Місяць тому +1

    😍😍😍😍

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  Місяць тому

      😂 😍😍😍

  • @Strafio
    @Strafio Місяць тому

    Not even healing?? 😮
    Incredible work!
    I'd love to be able to play like this someday but it'll take a lot of work to get all the guard timings down!
    Bravo!! 👏🏻

  • @jirajirawoo6900
    @jirajirawoo6900 27 днів тому

    17:13 18:23 How to counter attack without damage taken? When I countered with triangle, I received damage from Odin's charge.

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  27 днів тому

      With perfect timing

  • @ramirojoseduransaenz7352
    @ramirojoseduransaenz7352 5 днів тому

    19:10 CLOUD X ZACK HEROES UNITED

  • @chemicalist
    @chemicalist Місяць тому

    How did you do that jump after sonic boom

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  Місяць тому

      I pressed triangle in Prime mode.

    • @danielmillward9947
      @danielmillward9947 28 днів тому

      ​@@Avtenombut that just changes it to his other style

  • @shanebluesky7452
    @shanebluesky7452 Місяць тому +1

    Bro where is your rising tide gameplay?

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  Місяць тому +2

      I loved it, so it's coming.

  • @BoyBawalKo
    @BoyBawalKo Місяць тому +1

    0:47 daayyyum there is levels. Capcom would be proud.

  • @aali4726
    @aali4726 15 днів тому

    I got to round 10 +10 times now and everytime odin find a new way to beat me up or onshot me it's so frustrating makeing me hate a game that I love so can I humbly ask u to help me via ps5 gameshre if u could find time or anyone who is interested I only got this and outer world challenge any help will be appreciated thank u in advance

  • @ricardolopez-ry5hz
    @ricardolopez-ry5hz Місяць тому +1

    I clearly heard zack said faya so you used magic

  • @theblissone
    @theblissone 14 днів тому

    Less Smart boys with Big sword

  • @user-ki4no3ly5
    @user-ki4no3ly5 Місяць тому +3

    0:10 wtf is that?

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  Місяць тому +3

      Prime mode ability + triangle. 😐

    • @user-ki4no3ly5
      @user-ki4no3ly5 Місяць тому

      @@Avtenom sheeshhh clean game play

  • @SonicWind25
    @SonicWind25 26 днів тому

    What is the build?

    • @Avtenom
      @Avtenom  26 днів тому +1

      The build is shown at the end of the video

    • @SonicWind25
      @SonicWind25 26 днів тому

      @@Avtenom thank you

  • @unholyrevenger72
    @unholyrevenger72 28 днів тому

    I still don't get why Cid and Vincent aren't playable as stripped down characters like Zack an Sephiroth.

    • @juliogomesdesouza9035
      @juliogomesdesouza9035 24 дні тому

      Because they appear at the very end and they want to have surprises for the 3rd part. Putting much effort into them for literally just the last 10 hours is may not have seemed worth it to them so they saved for the last game

  • @kerutoto
    @kerutoto Місяць тому

    B U S S I N & N U T T I N 🔥🤙