The BEST (And Worst) Encounters For Your Pokémon Black 2 & White 2 Nuzlocke!

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    Time Stamps
    0:00 - Introduction & Ranking Criteria
    00:56 - Overall Thoughts on Nuzlocking Black 2 & White 2
    02:58 - Major Threats
    07:53 - Starters & Early Game Encounters
    21:15 - Burgh & Elesa Split Encounters
    36:44 - Clay & Skyla Split Encounters
    47:07 - Drayden Split Encounters
    58:20 - Late Game Encounters
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  • @omarbaziz6344
    @omarbaziz6344 Рік тому +1494

    Love how the encounters are presented in actual encounter order and not dex order, thats what this kind of videos need !

    • @lochievaughan9323
      @lochievaughan9323 Рік тому +16

      oh i know right! Pokemon Challenges does his tier lists (which are great) but this is the missing link.

    • @camillalapolentona84480
      @camillalapolentona84480 9 місяців тому +1

      Although Unova encounter order Is pretty much the dex order

  • @TheFourthBlackReaper
    @TheFourthBlackReaper Рік тому +814

    Fun fact! There are actually 6 Pokemon that can have Sturdy that are not Rock or Steel type:
    -Pineco [Bug]
    -Donphan [Ground]
    -Sawk [Fighting]
    -Bergmite [Ice] (Hidden Ability)
    -Avalugg [Ice] (Hidden Ability)
    -Cosmoem [Psychic]

    • @fluffythecat2113
      @fluffythecat2113 Рік тому +35

      Damn, there were six and I couldn't think of a single one 😅

    • @spencerbrummett6712
      @spencerbrummett6712 Рік тому +42

      I was so excited when I remembered avalugg, then I realized I have donphan in a draft league rn and knew something wasn't right. Maybe he meant fully evolved mons with sturdy as of B2W2?

    • @TheFourthBlackReaper
      @TheFourthBlackReaper Рік тому +16

      @@spencerbrummett6712 That would make sense, also I’m not sure if Cosmoem really counts as I don’t think you can actually use it in-game, but I don’t 100% remember, I haven’t played Gen 7 in a while…

    • @spencerbrummett6712
      @spencerbrummett6712 Рік тому +11

      @@TheFourthBlackReaper I feel like you can get cosmog as a gift in post game, bc I remember leveling one up and you'd have to to fill the dex page, right? But still not applicable in a nuzlocke sense bc I'm pretty sure they both don't learn any moves and it's post game.

    • @TheFourthBlackReaper
      @TheFourthBlackReaper Рік тому +4

      @@spencerbrummett6712 I kinda remember it being something like that, but I thought you just might have gotten to scan it once Nebby evolved from a Cosmog but before they evolve into whichever Box Legendary you get and go with you afterwards.

  • @jacobtarallo7079
    @jacobtarallo7079 Рік тому +194

    the guaranteed hidden grotto cincinno with skill link is amazing. Guaranteed 5x hit on tail slap, rock blast, bullet seed is really powerful even towards the late game.

    • @Ash-Hole2000lmao
      @Ash-Hole2000lmao Рік тому +35

      Yea especially with encore,charm,captivate or tickle as good support options for that 4th move slot or wake up slap for steel types but I would go for support. Scope lens or kings rock also gives it a strong hold item for hax to brute force stuff it normally can't kill.

    • @kristianpomida8259
      @kristianpomida8259 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Ash-Hole2000lmaosadly kings rock is post game

    • @nicholasgreen4921
      @nicholasgreen4921 14 днів тому

      Shit I didn't think about bullet seed omg

  • @bestbeekeeper8931
    @bestbeekeeper8931 Рік тому +227

    Dr. HG did not mention this, but one of the things that makes Stoutland work for so long is early access to return and silk scarf. If you're not a bad person and Stoutland likes you, you get a version of return which has close to 150 base power*, accounting for STAB and assuming silk scarf. That plus intim, decent natural bulk, and a base 110** attack stat is pretty darn good into more than you might think
    *actually well over 150! i did my math thinking STAB was ×1.2, for whatever reason. Silk scarf is 1.2, STAB is 1.5, so 102×1.5×1.2=183(and change)!
    **100, actually. i am a goober

    • @that-guy-pearce
      @that-guy-pearce Рік тому +18

      Tragically only base 100 in gen 5 but still, very true

    • @bestbeekeeper8931
      @bestbeekeeper8931 Рік тому +9

      @@that-guy-pearce I did not know it was only 100 in gen 5. Learn something new every day, I guess. Still respectable for single player

    • @keksauce
      @keksauce Рік тому +9

      if you account for STAB it's way stronger than 150 BP
      102 * 1.2x from Silk Scarf * 1.5 from STAB is very powerful

    • @bestbeekeeper8931
      @bestbeekeeper8931 Рік тому

      @@keksauce thought STAB was 1.2 for whatever reason, my bad!

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Рік тому +10

      Stoutland is basically the gen 5 Kanghaskan: Fast enough, bulky enough and strong enough for the adventure so it always has uses. I would say it's better in Black/White though due to less steel and rock types.

  • @deathmerchant4565
    @deathmerchant4565 Рік тому +416

    Would be cool to now see a B2 nuzlocke using the top and bottom pokemon of each tier!

    • @dylanboczar999
      @dylanboczar999 Рік тому +58

      I think it'd be more interesting to just see a B2 nuzlocke with the top tiers excluded. Have a specific prescribed team would be too limiting I think.

    • @matthewcline5040
      @matthewcline5040 Рік тому +1

      @@dylanboczar999 could do two and use the top half and another with the bottom half. But could readjust if one is to limiting

    • @TheMadJellyfish
      @TheMadJellyfish Рік тому +14

      @@dylanboczar999 B2/W2 but only C tier or lower would be neat

    • @Sporeheroforwii
      @Sporeheroforwii Рік тому +1

      He could do a bw2 snaplocke

    • @Sporeheroforwii
      @Sporeheroforwii Рік тому +3

      He could do a bw2 snaplocke

  • @gonzatek2965
    @gonzatek2965 10 місяців тому +21

    Fun fact: you have a 50/50 chance of getting a Metang or a Ditto, by using the repel strat in the Giant Chasm (crater forest), that's because only these 2 Pokémon can appear at level 47

  • @johncarlonalaunan4991
    @johncarlonalaunan4991 Рік тому +65

    17:20
    audino renegerator carried my team until drayden, it's super good for pivot switching especially when you need to pp stall some special attacks or just generally taking hits and damaging back the opponent with rocky helmet, if i dont get ferrothorn i keep audino as my main shock absorber ❤️ plus it's great with triple/rotation battles(pesky ace trainers)

    • @wienerrrrrrrrrrr
      @wienerrrrrrrrrrr Рік тому +16

      Regenerator mons in general are just so good in any game. Amoongus saved my most recent run by being able to single-handedly take on the fighting type e4 member after I lost my plan A to a crit.

  • @karabancha
    @karabancha Рік тому +145

    I love the unova nuzzlockes. Mostly because of the original's "no past gen pokemons before postgame"

    • @Kotenekrazy
      @Kotenekrazy Рік тому +21

      I high-key wish there were a rom like Blaze Black/ Volt White that is just a more challenging updated version of the game, but keeps the original dex. Heck I kinda wish that were the case for all those type of romhacks

    • @iSearchYoutube
      @iSearchYoutube Рік тому

      @@Kotenekrazy But Blaze Black isn't locked to the Unova dex, you have other region mons available as encounters from the start

    • @mgmf46
      @mgmf46 Рік тому +21

      @@iSearchUA-cam that’s what they’re saying

    • @iSearchYoutube
      @iSearchYoutube Рік тому

      @@mgmf46 I read it as "wish there were a rom like BB/VW" as in a rom like them that is an updated difficulty mod with the same dex
      Not "a game like BB/VW but not altering the dex"

  • @rattyxoxo7397
    @rattyxoxo7397 Рік тому +76

    Emolga absolutely deserves to be higher as a fast mon who gets Encore in the Skyla split and has a very common immunity to switch in on and just win in certain matchups. Provided it has passable speed, it can switch in on every E4 ground move, outspeed and Encore the user, then paralyse with T-Wave, spam Flash, set up Screens, Volt Switch or even just let Emolga chip it down while continually Encoring whenever it runs out. A near guaranteed Electric type in a ton of shaking grass spots is also fantastic for Skyla, and Static has some utility in getting other good electric mons more reliably.
    I also think this should be taken into consideration with Magnemite’s ranking as well, as Magnet Pull makes Metagross, Skarmory, Aggron, Ferrothorn and Bisharp all far more accessible, who all are immensely useful mons

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 Рік тому +7

      Encore into Volt Switch was key for gimping HaxRus

    • @marcustulliuscicero5443
      @marcustulliuscicero5443 6 місяців тому

      Repeling at level 38 in doubles grass gives a 75% chance to encounter Skarmory, which is greater than the 50% chance from Magnet Pull. Also Aggron is an (almost) guaranteed encounter.

    • @rattyxoxo7397
      @rattyxoxo7397 6 місяців тому

      @@marcustulliuscicero5443 magnet pull doesnt decrease the chance down to 50%, it adds an additional coin flip at the beginning. In the case of the doubles grass Repel manip you have a 50% chance to guaranteed get Skarm, then a 75% chance to get Skarm, so odds become 7/8 rather than the 3/4 without. It's not a massive increase, but any increase in chance to get such a fantastic mon is worth it. Magnet Pull also triples the odds of Aron on each floor of Mistralton Cave (20% -> 60%), though granted you probably will have the Boldore and Woobat dupes. theres no downside to using Magnet Pull unless you specifically want a mon that's not steel, which is hardly ever a thing considering how strong most every single available steel type is, and having it just makes getting those mons so much more reliable and less prone to getting rng screwed

    • @marcustulliuscicero5443
      @marcustulliuscicero5443 6 місяців тому +1

      @@rattyxoxo7397 That's actually great to know, TIL.
      However, if you want to Magnet Pull Manip with Zone you have to not bring it against Skyla, which depending on your encounters beforehand can make that fight a bit tricky.
      Also since Mistralton Cave is two encounters (Mistralton Cave proper and Guidance Chamber), by repelling with a level 30 Foongus you can (almost) guarantee getting both Aggron and Haxorus.

    • @aidanpeterbio
      @aidanpeterbio 2 місяці тому

      Emolga is special for me, it was the first solo run I ever did on X

  • @stevie1493
    @stevie1493 Рік тому +25

    Lapras has access to ice beam before Drayden and absolutely should be your Village Bridge target with dupes clause if you already have the Marill line

    • @pauldralle8882
      @pauldralle8882 Рік тому +3

      Absolutely, if you happen to get Marill at Floccessy Ranch, get Basculin at Route 14 (where it's 70% to be your surf encounter), and you guarantee yourself a STAB Ice Beam user for Drayden :)

  • @naftalilipman8153
    @naftalilipman8153 Рік тому +205

    Challenge idea: mirror match!
    For each boss you have to mach their type specialty. For the water gym leader, only water types. Any Giovanni fight, only ground types.
    You can select any type before your encounter, and choose only between the mons of that type on that route. This way you won't get softlocked by ban encounter luck.
    Have fun!!!

    • @naftalilipman8153
      @naftalilipman8153 Рік тому +4

      If you see this Mr HG pls say something so I know, even if you're not interested, that I should stop posting this hoping you'll see it lol ❤

    • @RULERZREACHF4N6146
      @RULERZREACHF4N6146 Рік тому

      Cool idea

    • @mrwaffleman8732
      @mrwaffleman8732 Рік тому +23

      ​@@naftalilipman8153 parasocial 😨

    • @owololcat
      @owololcat Рік тому +7

      This is actually pretty cool! I'd allow catching multiple pokemon to make up for the fact you might not have the type you need if you go with 1 encounter per route if I played with this idea.

    • @dragoniteisbased
      @dragoniteisbased Рік тому +2

      Brock in fire red and leaf green:

  • @Glowvie
    @Glowvie Рік тому +118

    This is so helpful because i just started a nuzlocke on Black 2 and im STRUGGLING
    My first two encounters were Purrloin and SUNKERN 😭😭
    Needless to say they died soon after

    • @thetakerofknees9737
      @thetakerofknees9737 Рік тому +12

      That does not bode well for the rest of your run

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 Рік тому +8

      I actually took a Sunflora to the Hall of Fame once. She didn’t do Jack to anyone in the league, but it still worked out, so

  • @anya5054
    @anya5054 Рік тому +76

    I would actually like to briefly correct a small assumption made in this video - it turns out you _can_ access Chargestone Cave before fighting Clay! so this means you can get an earlier magnezone, god bless
    Oh, and the Chargestone Cave encounter table too. If you're wondering if any of those encounters would be good into Clay, here's my general take:
    No. Don't even think about it, really.
    Joltik is a very small Bug/Electric Type who is threatened by the rock coverage Krokorok and Excadrill have while not being able to do much in turn, and Galvantula comes after the level cap
    Tynamo might be immune to Ground but it also cannot meaningfully damage any of Clay's Pokemon (with another evolution that is levels above the cap!)
    Klink is weak to Ground and can't _also_ evolve yet
    Nosepass is either singularly weak or doubly weak depending on if you use Chargestone Cave to evolve it
    ...and okay, Ferroseed's actually a decent enough counter + wall for Clay with Eviolite & Seed Bomb, but you probably have better counters already planned (like, say, that guaranteed Serene Grace Deerling you can get from the Weather Building on Route 6 already)

    • @HonkHonkGoose776
      @HonkHonkGoose776 Рік тому +6

      I did know that, but I never did because why would you need magnezone for clay

    • @marcogypaetus9607
      @marcogypaetus9607 8 місяців тому +1

      Serene Grace on deerling is not that good tho, its movepool has very little that can take advantage of it

    • @anya5054
      @anya5054 8 місяців тому +1

      @@marcogypaetus9607 oh yeah, 100%. it's more about the fact that it is a Guaranteed Encounter than anything else - you don't have to gamble on getting something good on that route when you can know that there is in fact a decent grass-type that can learn Fighting-type moves, perfect for the nearby ground gym.

  • @nishant9289
    @nishant9289 Рік тому +16

    As someone who did a hardcore nuzlocke of this game, I'm hoping Garbodor to be B or even A tier Pokémon. Yes, GARBODOR!
    Both of my fighting types fainted and I my only bug type was shelmet which couldn't evolve!
    So I really had no solid plan against Grimsley. I ultimately decided using the toxic spikes and switching to stall his Pokémon a bit and then deal damage. But this wasn't a good idea either because my only Dark resist was Weavile. Regardless, I trained my boxed Trubbish.
    And after levelling Garbodor up to level 45 I realised ... This thing gets DRAIN PUNCH? A combination of Drain Punch and Toxic Spikes along with defense EVs invested in Garbodor made that battle so much easier. I still can't stress enough how much I underestimated Garbodor. It's bad in competitive, but actually decent in nuzlockes.
    So that's my viewpoint of why Garbodor should be that high: Toxic Spikes. Toxic Spikes are quite good against Grimsley, even better against Marshall and amazing against Iris too. Garbodor is an actual good Elite 4 'mon, especially with drain punch. Other valuable and semi-valuable moves include toxic, clear smog, venoshock etc.

    • @TheGodIvy
      @TheGodIvy Рік тому

      Im too lazy to fact check this but theres probably a better pokemon that can set up toxic spikes, and if you can get that pokemon, Garbodors use instantly goes down

    • @nishant9289
      @nishant9289 Рік тому +1

      @@TheGodIvy Roserade, Amoongus, Drapion or muk? Understandable. Roserade just feels a bit frail to set up toxic spikes, grimer is very unlikely, thus leaving only three players. Obviously Drapion is superior here but in my playthrough I couldn't even run up into a skorupi, thus leaving very few toxic spikes setters and because Garbodor was one of them, it automatically became good for my team.

  • @ramrose3769
    @ramrose3769 Рік тому +17

    The u-turners, volt switchers, and magic guarders may be a little too low but very, very accurate list. Appreciated Sir

  • @kingcutha1448
    @kingcutha1448 Рік тому +21

    Lilagant also gets pedal dance own tempo making it have a 120 move no downsides

    • @raytheman5316
      @raytheman5316 Рік тому +13

      Tho it does get locked on petal dance

    • @kayramah2531
      @kayramah2531 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@raytheman5316not like it gets better coverage

    • @raytheman5316
      @raytheman5316 11 місяців тому +2

      @@kayramah2531 true sadly :c

  • @justamothygirl2143
    @justamothygirl2143 Рік тому +42

    Black 2 was one of the first nuzlockes i ever completed, and I remember losing my starter (samurott) to drayden, and replacing it with the world's most badass golduck, that thing carried me so hard through the rest of the game.

  • @Agumame
    @Agumame Рік тому +4

    My guy, that bit at the beginning explaining the hard fights and why theyre hard was awesome. it added so much to the video cause it makes so much of the ranking easier to understand and see your logic

  • @imn_fauler6098
    @imn_fauler6098 Рік тому +12

    Fun fact: u can get heracross in black 2 and pincer in white 2 via hidden grotto but the chance are so small it is like a 0,015% chance or something, it is in the hidden grotto u can find the monkes

  • @g1829
    @g1829 Рік тому +46

    Between you and Chuggaconroy, I’m glad there’s a resurgence in BW2 content!

    • @phantomtearsca
      @phantomtearsca Рік тому +6

      and Chugga has a Trapinch on his team, which is very cool to see

  • @Nuclearstomp
    @Nuclearstomp Рік тому +7

    That was honestly a really fun tier list. It was really cool to see you talk about the non-Gen 5 Pokemon here when I more recently played B/W instead of B/W 2 and it kind of makes me want to return to B/W 2 sometime soon.
    Anyways, it's time for me to once again recommend returning to a No-Same Type Moves Nuzlocke. This time I'll re-recommend Black / White (Or even Black/White 2 if you want) because of the tier list and also because I actually played through that one with the No-Same Type Moves Challenge.

  • @jasonandrews1770
    @jasonandrews1770 Рік тому +15

    I will prob never run a nuzlocke. But i will always care about the logic and strategy behind running one. Great stuff

  • @noahwizda2924
    @noahwizda2924 Рік тому +8

    Ferrothorn is an extremely good counter for all of draydens team. Use iron defense turn one followed by ingrain to prevent being dragon tailed out of the battle and then go until you reach max defense. At this point the ai sort of breaks and attempts to spam dragon tail untill the end of the battle due to the stat raises on the ferrothorn then just sweep with iron head or any other move. I could be wrong but I just beat drayden in my nuzlocke using this strategy so if you are looking for a hard counter ferrothorn works perfect.

  • @ado-
    @ado- Рік тому +1

    the encounters in this game can be so CRAZY! can't wait to see the rankings

  • @aidanrmacgregor7537
    @aidanrmacgregor7537 Рік тому +6

    Hey Flygon, do a *Hardcore Nuzlocke but Every Pokemon is Used Wrong*! For Pokemon with excellent physical attack, use only special moves, and vice versa!

  • @CoffeeFlavoredMilk
    @CoffeeFlavoredMilk Рік тому +8

    My heart sank when I realized that Camerupt's bulk is like 70/70/70 and is slow as hell to boot. I actually like using him in Emerald (yes the water but still) but I imagine he gets powercreeped hard in this game.

    • @bigjwill
      @bigjwill 9 місяців тому

      yeah it doesn't make sense for it to be frailer than CHANDELURE of all things (60/90/90)

  • @omarbaziz6344
    @omarbaziz6344 Рік тому

    Man i have just rewatched some old tierlists this week and thought that i would love to see more of those ! Thanks Doctor

  • @dragonhunterg6137
    @dragonhunterg6137 Рік тому +18

    I think Zoroark is slept on. Easy S-tier to me, with its absurd IVs (guaranteed 30 in each stat) plus hasty nature allow it to outspeed everything, and has access to HP-Fighting to curbstomp the entire elite 4 save Marshall

    • @lunarixis9957
      @lunarixis9957 Рік тому +11

      Yeah, Illusion is also much more valuable than just a "niche" option, definitely think it's being a little undervalued here

    • @yeta.
      @yeta. Рік тому +2

      Yeh it is good, easily goes S tier as long as you have a Poison type to bait Psychic moves into it

    • @zaneheaston8254
      @zaneheaston8254 Рік тому +6

      Wait, the Gift Zorua has access to Hidden Power Fighting, are you serious

    • @dragonhunterg6137
      @dragonhunterg6137 Рік тому +3

      @@zaneheaston8254 yup, since it's guaranteed to have 30 IVs in each stat

    • @mr.krustykrust
      @mr.krustykrust Рік тому +2

      @@zaneheaston8254pretty sure it’s 70 bp too

  • @TheXehanorto
    @TheXehanorto Рік тому +55

    Before the video, here’s hoping that Riolu is S++ Tier because that is an insane encounter for so early in the game.

    • @DeftestAphid2
      @DeftestAphid2 Рік тому

      My luck got me a damn psyduck...

    • @dancook6114
      @dancook6114 Рік тому +10

      I would guess it won't be quite that high just because it's encounter rate is so low, so you can't rely on getting it. Its obviously a phenomenal pokemon if you can get it but the low odds probably knock its rating a bit since that is a stated criteria

    • @Zoroarkarceus123
      @Zoroarkarceus123 Рік тому

      ​@@dancook6114 if you use dream radar, you can basically guarantee it

    • @rook2215
      @rook2215 Рік тому

      I restart runs till I get lucario or azu

    • @melon42301
      @melon42301 Рік тому

      No doubt THE best encounter

  • @LilPendix10
    @LilPendix10 Рік тому +1

    I love these! I hope you make this a mini series

    • @LilPendix10
      @LilPendix10 Рік тому

      Oh, I see it already is...oops lol

  • @delaneymcdonell5774
    @delaneymcdonell5774 Рік тому +6

    I used Surperior in my White 2 nuzlocke and this thing with Coil and Leaf Blade/Storm was destructive it actually made me like Surperior quite a bit

  • @gavinlee9999
    @gavinlee9999 Рік тому +1

    Loved this vid. Hope to see more tier list videos soon. Especially for Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon

  • @MillsMonstrosity007
    @MillsMonstrosity007 Рік тому +10

    Tried a run of White 2 a few months ago and wiped to Shauntal. Got pretty frustrated and set it down for a while. Gonna give it another go after seeing this video. Thanks for the encouragement!

  • @Galastan
    @Galastan Рік тому +16

    You can technically grind a Pickup mon in order to obtain a King's Rock for fling strats. Chuggaaconroy got one in his playthrough around the Virbank Complex. It's a 1% chance between levels 11 and 30, so definitely not likely but it's an option if you want to use Gliscor.

  • @mazharsiddiqi7288
    @mazharsiddiqi7288 Рік тому +7

    Awesome tier list
    Expected Krookodile and Excadrill as S tier
    Some of the other S tiers were surprising but your reasoning made sense

  • @roethedoe
    @roethedoe Рік тому

    I CANNOT WAIT TO WATCH THIS!! I love ranking videos. I've done a handful of lockes in Black2, with pokemon who surprised and disappointed me so I cannot wait to see where they may rank

  • @murarmight
    @murarmight Рік тому

    Love your videos so much Flygon! Makes me happy to watch them

  • @kamig2127
    @kamig2127 Рік тому +21

    51:04 A slight error, Mantine in this gen doesn't get access to Roost. Mantine didn't receive Roost until Gen 7 where it's a move relearner move that it learns at level 1.

  • @psugamele8
    @psugamele8 Рік тому +1

    This video is great!!! Would love to see videos for the other games as well!

  • @holdommi7505
    @holdommi7505 Рік тому

    This is a really interesting video and I’m really looking forward to other games getting this treatment!

  • @rocksnstarss
    @rocksnstarss Рік тому +3

    currently attempting my own black 2 nuzlocke, this video came out at just the right time! thank you for making this

  • @christianjans1057
    @christianjans1057 Рік тому +6

    Ampharos has static for electric encounters so i would put it higher for sure. Walrein lefties ice body protect definitely viable for drayden though. But great list overall

  • @rhonetalsma3089
    @rhonetalsma3089 Рік тому

    Such a huge fan of your content - you're the GoGOAT. It would be so cool if you did these for other games especially SV! I do Gym Leader Challenges with some hardcore nuzlocke rules and I find these tier lists really helpful and interesting.

  • @MallowPokes
    @MallowPokes Рік тому +1

    I played a Black 2 challenge mode hardcore nuzlocke earlier this year and lost to Iris. Haven’t picked it back up since but you’ve inspired me to give it another try! Love your content, as always another quality video! Thank you!

  • @Balorak146
    @Balorak146 Рік тому

    This comes just in time for my attempt at a Monotype Lines Only run. Thanks!

  • @johnbuffalo4300
    @johnbuffalo4300 10 місяців тому +4

    Hello everyone! I'm currently doing my third attempt at this games' nuzlocke - always wiping to random Victory Road trainers, by the way - and I would love to give you some tips that in my opinion might help you further.
    1)Keep in mind some apparently useless pokemons' abilities are broken. A pokemon with Static such as Mareep - if first in your team - boosts your chances of getting Magnemite in Virbank's complex if you're playing Black 2 (White 2 has wild Elekid there instead of Magby, so you wouldn't really make a profit if you want a Magnemite) and Joltik in Chargestone Cave (in this case Elekid too can be used). Keep in mind electric type 'mons - quick ones especially - are very useful as they can learn Volt Switch, the only repositioning move if you forbid yourself U-Turn's TM, which is only available via PWT. Most importantly, if you don't get a Magnemite without Sturdy - a broken ability - consider that the other one, Magnet Pull, *might be* almost better, as it boosts your chances of encountering Pawniard, Skarmory and Metang in their own locations. Another broken utility pokemon you can get is Eevee: once you get to Castelia City, be sure to get yourself one with repel manipulating strats (if you want to), because not only it can evolve in what you want depending on its stats/nature, but most importantly both Espeon and Umbreon have Synchronize, which means if you put them first in the party they will boost the chances of you finding wild 'mons with the same nature. I would give an arm to get myself a neutral nature (or a special attack hindering nature) Sandile instead of the thousand 0 IVS quiet nature I have found...
    2)There is a static Minccino encounter in Route 5 and it has Skill Link. Not only it is thousand times better than a regular Minccino, but by getting it you can also reroll it on Route 4, which is the route with arguably the strongest guaranteed encounters. Also, consider making a capture in Desert Resort first, 'coz you might make it so that you get both Darumaka and Sandile there and then on Route 4.
    3)I have no idea what the heck does My brother FlygonHG have against Claydol but I think it's a beautiful guaranteed pokemon which can be great when paired up with steel stypes - Magnezone, Bisharp and Aggron especially - making wonderful cores. Don't go for Sandile in the Relic Castle - I never found it - and don't go for Volcarona either: that thing is just broken. If you need a fire type get the guaranteed Litwick and if you need a bug type... Nah, man. You don't. Maybe Galvantula, okay? Or Leavanny. Yeah. And by the way if you truly are getting a Claydol be sure to make it PHYSICALLY defensive. Not specially. The late game special attackers in Black 2 and White 2 are just too strong and one non-resisted move - especially if it crits - is gonna kill you anyway.
    4)Let me get this straight: I don't know what Mr OneballHG was smoking before taking this video - though I'd be happy to share it - but you definitely SHOULD get Sewaddle on Route 20 (not really worth it in later locations IMHO, though). First of all you are VERY likely to, as Sewaddle has a 35% spawn rate on Route 20 (the highest rate on that route), but most importantly you better know this: in the very early game, Sewaddle's line is BROKEN. Solid attack, defense and speed stat(s); Bug Bite - virtually 90 power with STAB - learnt at level 8 and String Shot in its moveset already: with these two you *EAT* Cheren (unless you get very unlucky with nature/IVs). It then gets Razor Leaf and Protect; evolves into Swadloon at level 20 *AND THEN* into Leavanny at level 21 (you're gonna walk a lot to find and fight Audino(s) so happyness is gonna get skyhigh in no time), at that point Leavanny just solo-eats Burgh's entire team and his Leavanny's Sitrus Berry with Bug Bite. It's just an amazing early game encounter. It later falls off pretty damn hard and pretty damn fast too, especially once you reach Reversal Mountain and Route 13, but with those solid stats and STAB moves (including Leaf Blade, X-Scissors and Swords Dance) you can always make some use of it, not to mention it quad-resists ground and grass type moves.
    Also, it can be very useful against Clay, as Leftovers and Protect offer good recovery and will help you smash both Krokorock and Sandslash, although you will need your starter then to get rid of his Excadrill (Eviolite Dewott pairs up pretty good). To play safer, you might need a sacrifice material for free switch-in(s), but I'm pretty sure you will have a lot of sack material at that point, such as any Route 6 encounter, for example.
    Good luck with your journey my friends!

  • @MetallicRose87
    @MetallicRose87 Рік тому

    I love this nuzlocke tierlist type of video, if you did this for the other games too that'd be super cool!

  • @Joenight100
    @Joenight100 Рік тому +2

    Did get Lucario early in a Nuzlocke run a bit back and it was wild how easy he made the early game

  • @KG-jz8di
    @KG-jz8di 11 місяців тому

    Hi FlygonHD!
    Great video as always! I would love to see this for the original Black and White too.

  • @fussel5000
    @fussel5000 Рік тому

    That ad was pretty brilliant. The lengths you go through just for your sponsors.

  • @xxxplayer5xxx906
    @xxxplayer5xxx906 Рік тому +4

    Hey Flygon! I think a fun idea for a bw or b2w2 nuzlocke would be to do an N challenge where you can only use pokemon caught in the routes before the gym and must release all pokemon after beating a gym (not sure how it would fully work but you could fill in the in between). Would give an interesting twist on a non type exclusive nuzlocke run but I do understand that it would take a lot of time.

  • @nishant9289
    @nishant9289 Рік тому +10

    Another request before beginning the video, please keep Sneasel in high A tier. That thing trivialises Iris HARD upon evolving. Black 2 was the first game I nuzlocked (along withhardcore mode, after inspiring from people like you, Silph, Andrew and so on). And I did Iris deathless, largely because of Weavile without even using Swords Dance.
    S Tier is not possible and I understand because Sneasel is available so late!
    EDIT: Yeah I know, Flygon HG didn't suggest B2 as the very first game to nuzlocke. And he's actually right. I remember breaking one of the rules of hardcore nuzlocke when while training for a substitute to my fire fighting starter, my mienfoo got crit by a wild tangela's giga drain (most of them knew only mega drain). I loaded my previous savestate, because I didn't want to get depressed with quickly following permadeaths and leave the nuzlocke in between 😅

    • @nishant9289
      @nishant9289 Рік тому

      Oh, Weavile is S-Tier. Proud of him!

  • @subval
    @subval Рік тому +12

    Arcanine is surprisingly bulky. Rip In pieces JJ, you did your best. But Iris was just a little too strong.

  • @dylansturdivant5404
    @dylansturdivant5404 Рік тому +2

    I ended up with a ton of psychic and ghost pokemon late game and trainers with Scrafty caused a lot of deaths. Definitely any mon that can deal with dark types are much appreciated.

  • @Duckular
    @Duckular Рік тому

    Thanks to this video I ended up beating a hardcore wedlocke of this game on challenge mode, and may I say that Mienshao is a REALLY good encounter to get. Acrobatics easily sweeps through Marshal and she easily one shots everything on Grimsly’s team and gets fake out for his Liepard. Fake out can also help deal with sturdy and Iris’ Haxorus, and regenerator is also just such a great ability, especially when paired with u-turn. Stab drain punch is also just really good too. All in all an excellent Pokémon that ended up carrying the team since it’s arrival and made it alive to the very end.

  • @ArgyleKatt
    @ArgyleKatt Рік тому +38

    Could you do this but for Pokémon Ultra Sun and Moon? I think those games are some of the hardest in the series with it’s plethora of potential run enders and tough early game, so I’d be interested to see your thoughts on those games’ encounters.

  • @jonwoods4590
    @jonwoods4590 Рік тому +1

    i used an electabuzz for my white 2 nuzlocke and i would actually argue that it belongs in A tier bc low kick is a great answer to all those cryogonals and pawniards from team plasma and its ability to hold eviolite gives it surprisingly useful bulk in the mid/late game to add onto its great speed bc of thunder wave/static, mine lasted from virbank complex all the way to a crit from grimsley without leaving my team once :)

  • @madmanmunch9142
    @madmanmunch9142 11 місяців тому

    Beautiful video!

  • @Nick-zb6xl
    @Nick-zb6xl Рік тому

    I love these tier rankings! It would be very interesting to see a challenge where you go back and limit yourself to only the encounters in D or F tier and compare it to only using ones in S tier. While just using S would seem like a breeze, I’m sure it could present some challenges due to lack of encounters in the early / mid game

  • @TrunkaMonk
    @TrunkaMonk Рік тому

    Yay was waiting for a good video to listen to while doing school work

  • @johnny5247
    @johnny5247 10 місяців тому

    I love this video. Everytime i dont know what to watch i come back to it. Dont even know why

  • @mattypanella8027
    @mattypanella8027 Рік тому +2

    I love this video! I’m almost done with my HC Black 2 Nuzlocke (about to fight Ghetsis), and I might do another one because I didn’t know how good some of these Pokémon are (I caught freaking Yamask in Relic Castle instead of waiting for Volcarona)

    • @teethcoat4274
      @teethcoat4274 Рік тому

      You could always give blaze black/volt white a go (1 or 2) if you want a bigger challenge

  • @trippiehippie2967
    @trippiehippie2967 Рік тому

    I was starting my W2 nuzlock and you post a video on encounters on the game it was destiny, love the video hope your day is nice.

  • @patricklynch4074
    @patricklynch4074 Рік тому

    Excellent touch doing them in encounter batch order

  • @hibuscis
    @hibuscis Рік тому

    i really liked the wailord gag, not sure if anyone pointed it out but i appreciated it

  • @quinceekingston4335
    @quinceekingston4335 Рік тому +2

    This was my second hardcore nuzlocke I ever did and used the steel type. Challenging but not too bad since steel is amazing.

  • @NowiRiley
    @NowiRiley Рік тому +1

    1:03:13 There's a lot more than just 2 non Rock or Steel types with Sturdy- There's 4 (6 if you include the pre-evos Bergmite and Pineco): Sawk, Avalugg, Donphan, and Cosmoem.

  • @stans1091
    @stans1091 Рік тому +1

    I’m currently doing a White 2 hardcore nuzlocke with max rare candies on my “Nintendo DSi” and I’ve lost twice to Colress, this is really helpful thank you!!!

  • @MoonDanceGames
    @MoonDanceGames Рік тому

    I’m literally Nuzlocking Black 2 right now! This video could not have come at a better time, thank you!!

  • @NuriaFraga3
    @NuriaFraga3 Рік тому

    Thank you so much i needed a good water type on my team

  • @Notabot-2112
    @Notabot-2112 Рік тому

    52:28 This. This visual just makes sense.

  • @Teanis.
    @Teanis. Рік тому

    Really enjoyed the video! thank you!

  • @earthbloodelf5289
    @earthbloodelf5289 Рік тому +1

    As someone who decided to attempt a White 2 Nuzlocke maybe only having completely one before in Sword (I honestly can't remember if it got completed or not lol), this is really helpful to see what I need to look out for, there were definitely some in here that surprised me (Darmanitan, Crustle, Jellicent, Drapion, and Skarmory just to name a few)
    *Additional things I have to add about the early game is that because Sewaddle has pretty great defenses and a decent attack stat for the early game, having one with Bug Bite for Cheren's gym is a lifesaver, especially against the work up Lilipup. Then additionally, Stoutland with Silk Scarf Return is definitely a hard carry

  • @mateobonavento3939
    @mateobonavento3939 9 місяців тому

    Great timing. I'm currently doing my first B2W2 nuzlocke. It seems my current team consist of mostly top tier mons so I should be fine.

  • @wibble03
    @wibble03 11 місяців тому

    I love these videos, hope to see a Heartgold Soulsilver one in the future!!!

  • @the_godbodor7026
    @the_godbodor7026 Рік тому

    I’m glad that I can use two of my favorite Pokémon, Lilligant and Leavanny, in a nuzlocke without it being a detriment to my run and Garbodor I wasn’t expecting to be anywhere high, but I was honestly expecting F-tier, so D was a nice surprise.

  • @holdommi7505
    @holdommi7505 Рік тому +1

    I think doing some illusion shenanigans with Zoruark and Crobat can be really fun if Zubat is your sewers encounter. Crobat 4x resists Zoruark’s weaknesses in Gen 5, so the trainer AI isn’t likely to use those types of moves if you have Zoruark out and Crobat as its illusion copy. It can be really good into psychic type pokemon, especially, because trainers thinking they can hit you with a super effective psychic will instead do 0 damage.

  • @hatguy3119
    @hatguy3119 Рік тому

    I love how the manscaped section is in the "mayor threats" part in the video

  • @councilhearts1514
    @councilhearts1514 Рік тому +1

    I enjoy these ranking contents. It's nice to hear you go into a bit more depth into why/why not things are good, instead of just slapping something into S tier and calling it a day.

  • @CherryblossomFoxx
    @CherryblossomFoxx Рік тому +7

    Lucario should be S-tier, it has more use cases than the others and even its frailty is covered by the fact that steel is op in that generation

    • @oatmeal0
      @oatmeal0 Рік тому +1

      I disagree. There’s ‘Mons that do Lucario’s job (outside of priority) much better, be it due to having either higher Attack, Speed, or even bulk. Heracross and Mienshao are much better options due to having higher base power moves and higher Attack (at 125) in general. Heracross’s better bulk allows it to pivot into attacks and smack around opponents with stuff like Megahorn and Night Slash for coverage. Getting Close Combat at level 34? Yes please. You can also get it relatively early in the game, in Lostlorn forest. Rare, but worth it.
      Meinshao on the other hand has MUCH higher speed (105) and thus can outspeed and annihilate anything that stands in its way with a nasty 130 base power high jump kick, which gives better odds of surviving attacks due to not lowering your defences like Close Combat does, Lucario’s (and disadvantageously Heracross’) best fighting move.
      And those are just some of the handful of fast attackers that do Lucario’s job better. Unless you’re grinding for that juicy Swords Dance Extreme Speed combo, Lucario isn’t worth it. You’re frail to begin with so resisted hits with that steel typing barely matter, you still take quite a chunk of health. The AI of gym leaders and E4 members isn’t stupid either. It’ll happily select neutral or (even worse) super effective moves and send Anubis here back to Egypt.
      Also Riolu is rare.
      B- in my opinion.

  • @libbyabsher5715
    @libbyabsher5715 Рік тому

    I watch all of your videos, and I think that this is my favorite one because I caught myself wanting to play rather than wanting to watch! Thanks for all the great content!

  • @huskerjon6800
    @huskerjon6800 Рік тому

    I've never played blaze black 2 but after this video I'll have to give it a try on casual a few times w soft nuzlocke rules, seems super fun

  • @pieoverlord
    @pieoverlord Рік тому +1

    Basculin being underestimated as always. Adaptability gives the fish a distressing amount of power and it's pretty darn speedy at base 98 to boot. At least B-tier, even as a sacrifice that goes down swinging.

  • @VerkatosEnsei
    @VerkatosEnsei Рік тому +10

    I did my first Nuzlocke in White 2 on Challenge Mode, and it was brutal, but very fun
    I wanna do it again, since I didn't know about the level disparity, so I think this video will help a lot to see what I could maybe get (again)
    Unova's expanded Dex allows for a lot of variety, I feel

  • @spindash64
    @spindash64 Рік тому +4

    I know that Challenge mode is bugged to not update stats for higher levels, but I still think it makes for an overall fun increase to difficulty, for those who can unlock it: for one, the higher level trainers give you more Exp and resources to work with, without overdoing it like in some later games. For another, the movesets and parties of Gym Leaders are more dangerous, without being utter cheese. I’ve got some personal rankings for most of the dex myself by this point, but I suppose you’re the “old master” at this

  • @girllloyd1214
    @girllloyd1214 Рік тому +1

    in my experience, serperior actually does pretty well into drayden due to bulk + it gets dragon pulse from move tutor

  • @GumyShark
    @GumyShark Рік тому

    im having a bit of a shitty day right now, this video helped brighten it up a bit! thank you!

  • @slowbrodragon6951
    @slowbrodragon6951 Рік тому +1

    1:03:09 The other non Steel or Rock Pokémon with Sturdy are: Pineco, Donphan, Bergmite, Avalugg and Cosmoem 🌌

  • @GrandDuchessTaco
    @GrandDuchessTaco Рік тому +1

    Black 2 was actually my first Nuzlocke! I really enjoyed the run when I did it!

  • @matomi6296
    @matomi6296 Рік тому +1

    I have an idea for a nuzlocke run. You seem to like the concept of team building and it is honestly one of my favourite aspects of the game as well. So how about a run where you have to play the game with at most one active pokemon from each of the tiers that you have mapped out here?

  • @magnum_pig_2004
    @magnum_pig_2004 Рік тому

    This is what I've been waiting for. Great job, buddy.

  • @Bruh_idk69lul
    @Bruh_idk69lul 7 місяців тому

    Something to note about Castelia Park Encounters; Although Lilligant is only an encounter for W2, Route 4 has an ingame trade, being Petilil/Cottonee; that game's version for the other's.

  • @SkullKidman
    @SkullKidman Рік тому +1

    I had done Nuzlockes using the 2 lowest tiers of all your previous tier lists... I guess it's time for me do another Nuzlocke using your tier list lol (Although I haven't really Nuzlocked in a good while, so I hope I'll manage fine if I can squeeze that Nuzlocke between me playing the new Zelda and the Ace Attorney trilogy among other things)
    The selection of D and F tiers look fun to play with

  • @hobbobgob3236
    @hobbobgob3236 Рік тому

    Great video, Eelektros gang, used him to sweep Iris. MVP

  • @Bruh_idk69lul
    @Bruh_idk69lul 7 місяців тому

    58:10 Dewgong actually has a very, *very* niche trait, which is that, if you dont got many munz, seel learns dive by lvl up, allowing you to get the stuff in the 1st floor abyssal ruins before postgame. Lol

  • @deadsparrow132
    @deadsparrow132 Рік тому

    52:28 Love the Wailord bit xD

  • @Lito027
    @Lito027 Рік тому

    Great list. I surf spammed through a lot of the game with Golduck and Swanna on challenge mode. So I was sad to see them so low, but I kinda get it I guess.

  • @gofglida4155
    @gofglida4155 10 місяців тому +1

    I think that sandslash is a bit lower than it should be. It is a fantastic counter to clays excadrill because of its fantastic physical bulk and it can even take some of haxourus’s attacks well.

  • @sultan_3864
    @sultan_3864 8 місяців тому

    I always get Audino in my nuzlocke because of return and work up w either leftover or silk scarf. It does get refresh if youre doing no healing in battle.

  • @VaellinTheBard
    @VaellinTheBard Рік тому +2

    Not the first game I nuzlocked--that goes to HeartGold until I quit after a long grind and then immediately (dumbly) losing my dratini and magnemite--but it IS the first one I beat! With only Barbarian the Darmanitan as the survivor at the end