Why was she even in a half way house. She deserves to be in prison. She takes no responsibility, accountability or remorse. She is manipulative. Her lack of empathy is astonishing and infuriating. She makes me angry.
She makes you angry? You are making yourself angry. You do not even know, never have met and never will personally talk to in your life. How can she make you mad?
@sixthwizard2744 I don't know Ted Bundy. I don't personally know any pedophiles. I don't know any murderers. I don't know any people who make dumb comments on the internet. But they make me angry, as they should
Her wide eyed, "I know nothing" excuses are infuriating. She cannot possibly bumble through life being completely unaware of what she does and how it effects everyone else around her. It is an easy way for her to side step responsibility and accountability. She is too old to be so immature. So sad.
Jesus, these comments are so harsh. You have no idea what this woman has done or hasn’t done. Or how the children have thrived or not thrived. Everyone’s got an opinion on someone else’s life but I don’t see you guys out here helping this lady.
Mandoo!! I can’t believe how long it’s been since you started this journey, and you’re still killing it. So glad to watch you grow from the beginning!!
Suboxone changed my life! It takes away all cravings and allows you to live a sober life. If you have never struggled, you may not understand, but it counts as sobriety for recovering addicts.
@Mandoo_TWO no not at all. But I do think that they should stay on it for as long as they need to to get their lives back to normal. The people are not only addicted to the drugs, but to the lifestyle. So reintegration is crucial for some, prior to stopping.
@@Mandoo_TWOabsolutely not. A responsible doctor would slowly ween you off after about year or so. But suboxone makes it possible for one to not experience the horrendous symptoms of opiate withdrawal which is a major thing that keeps people using. It helps you focus on the therapy and tools you need to make sure you can improve yourself and your relationships with substances and how that impacts your relationships with humans. Good work. New subscriber 😊
@Mandoo_TWO there is no reason an addict can't take Suboxone for life. With all do respect, you should do research before putting out dangerous misinformation about this lifesaving medication that does not impair and helps recovering addicts to go on and live functional and fulfilling lives. It is interesting to watch these hearings, but your commentary is lacks compassion and empathy. Why are you so opposed to addicts in recovery take a medication that keeps them from relapse. Also, a addict coming out of prison is at the highest risk of overdose and death. When prescribed Suboxone that risk is greatly reduced. This medication takes away cravings and also reduces the effect of opiates. Why are you so dead set on prisoners being weaned off before getting out? This medication is not a "money grab" for the pharmaceutical companies and the prisons. It saves lives.
There is no rush to wean off Suboxone. If you need to remain on it for life, so be it. Please don't put your recovery in jeopardy and feel pressured into stopping this life saving medication just bc of the negative stigma of MAT that continues to plague society.
I know it's only his opinion and he has a right to that but I know lots of people on Subutex or suboxone that are different people because of it. I think she's way off on her thinking process but to say no one is clean or should be on meds long term is a very dangerous statement to make. My best friend stopped taking it after ten years because of people's opinions that they weren't "clean" even though he had been able to work, gain his kids back, buy a home, car and be in the best health of his life and 2 months later we buried him. We don't know everyone's situation and this disease if life or death so if it works, it's better than dying and who are we to judge?
@@hiddenhand6973You mostly know a lot of people taking it too. Addiction does not discriminate, it can affect anyone from any race or social class, addiction is an equal opportunity disease.
WHY such a comment? Your stigma, is a HUGE part of the problem. Many, many people are on this medication. You wouldn't know it, because they are just as normal as you are. They aren't "hanging out" anywhere besides in our community. People that are on this, are on it to return to being contributing members of society.
@@nothing4mepls973. 100% yes. I see so many people fawn and pray for the criminals to get help. It’s like they forget or fail to realize the fact that these people are where they are means there is one or more victims. They are the ones that need people’s sympathy. They are the ones whose suffering was not brought on by their own choices.
Wow, I guess you’re a mind reader then right and I know you can see the future. I’m sure you’re the most perfect parent. Also aren’t you. It’s not like this lady shoved these drugs down the child’s throat.
@@donnamorgan2522Actually, breaking up the dose of Suboxone is a regular practice for the induction of this medication. Cutting it up into smaller doses is exactly how this medication is prescribed in the beginning. She was trying to get off drugs by taking the Suboxone. This woman seems to have remorse and is taking appropriate accountability. I wish her the best 🤍
She obviously did not write her own statement or even read it in advance. "prepare for successful... reintra... inter... reintegregation into society..."; "...contribute postivately..."
The parole board said the halfway house staff is supposed to help...I'm in a halfway house in ct and they do not help they watch movies and talk on the phone ..I've even heard them I couldn't help you if I wanted to cause I don't have time ct halfway house is terrible
a halfway house is not meant to rehabilitate. it is meant to house people in a structured environment. nobody is here to do your work, you shouldn't be concerned with what the staff is doing. you're there to wake up on time, make your bed, perform hygiene, go to work, and be a productive member of society. period.
She's full of excuses for EVERYTHING that they are asking her about. No accountability for anything. It's doubtful that Londyn died from a tiny piece of Suboxone.She was trying to wean herself off of opiates, yet they found Oxycodone in her system??!! How/WHY was that baby allowed access to such dangerous drugs? This was all so preventable had Heather not been such a horrible mother and also because of all of the occurances that DCF was aware of which is infuriating! 😡 Thankfully, her other children were given a better chance for survival and thrived because of it. She deserves every minute that she's in prison. She should have been given MORE time in prison in my opinion. R.I.P. Rest in Peace Londyn.🙏 R.I.P. Rot in Prison Heather☠
Opioids are not like weed or Meth where the person will be over it after withdrawal. A person who’s been dependent on opioids for a long time does not get high on Suboxone. The Suboxone only helps them to function & live an as normal as possible life.
@@pheonixgray6078 umm actually I think you might be the one who is confused here. To an addict who takes it everyday it does nothing for you! It literally makes you feel normal. It’s intoxicating for someone who isn’t an addict.
@nailsbymaz7214 that's rich, you can't see I'm replying to a comment that's no longer there? Maybe something that went against the O.P.'s comment? I've been on subs 7 years. Luckily for me it hasn't damaged my reading comprehension. 😁
It has to do with how alcoholism affects people long after they have stopped drinking my grandma was an alcoholic for a long period of her life she got sober and she done the samething head bobbing body movements etc. everything that lady did was not voluntary it’s the after affects of becoming sober from alcohol. Alcoholism is the worst kind of addiction to have per popular belief it’s one of the most dangerous addictions to become sober from honestly. It’s sad that it’s legal and no one really does a deep dive of research first..
@@espencer243I'm a recovering drug addict,I know a lot of recovery alcoholics, cosicoff syndrome (sic) or wet brain,sounds horrific to me.alcohol is socially acceptable,yet one of the most dangerous drugs on the planet.
Mandoo, I'm saying this respectfully because I'm sure you're just not aware. But the stigma surrounding medication assisted treatment for opioid use disorder, KILLS people. Many people remain on maintenance doses of Suboxone for decades. They continue to work, manage responsibilities at home, enjoy healthy relationships and satisfying careers, and function successfully with the help of ongoing Suboxone therapy. It is viewed as a medication for a chronic condition, similar to a person with type 1 diabetes needing to take insulin. To say that you aren't really in recovery if you are on Suboxone is stigmatizing to people who take Suboxone, and it's not the medical reality of effective addiction treatment. Research shows that long-term treatment with Suboxone significantly improves outcomes compared to short-term treatment, and saves lives. Buprenorphine does not cause a euphoric high like heroin or other opioids..it is only a "partial" agonist of the main opiate receptor (the "mu" receptor). Unfortunately, within the addiction community and among the public at large, certain myths about Suboxone persist, and these myths add a further barrier to treatment for people who are suffering.
They really need to know more about medications to get off drugs and how the urine testing works if they are going t base their decisions on what they do not know. If her medication caused her to have positive test results then all her test results would be positive, not just 6. When you take suboxone or methadone you take it every day, i mean you might rarely miss a day but that’s it. If you miss 3 doses in a row they cut you off because you build up to your dose gradually and it is dangerous to miss 3 days and then take a full dose. Which means if you are on one of those types of medications you will always test positive for those meds. But their tests do check for what you have taken, not just that you took something. I have been on methadone for 12 years, clean within 3 months of going on it, and i know a lot of other people on it, those rules are laid out by the government and all clinics follow thm.
Before methadone 3 felonies 29 misdemeanors 9 rehabs over 1000 AA NA meetimg absolutely nothing worked i get on methadone been clean 5 years have a good job a house no crimes committed in 5 yrs got off parole finished college
@@SecondHandReactionYep, I've been on Suboxone for 6yrs now. I don't like having to take a medication everyday.. but it's better than shooting fentanyl or death.
Same. But they stopped the pee test at most of the clinics in my state and do swabs. Much less fraud. You sit in a room with chairs and 1 monitor to make sure the swab is in your mouth. This chick is so full of it. Suboxone, methadone and subutex show up separately than opioids, benzos or crystal meth. The fact that the board member fell for this is crazy. She denied everything- acted like she had no idea that they can't stand her at the halfway house and have written her up. Pretty sure in any situation involving write ups, the person written up has to sign it.
Regardless of what she did ( first mom) , losing not one but two kids to addiction has probably broken her completely. She probably sees no way out. No one deserves the pain of burying a child. I’ve lost a child, he had a brain bleed. It takes years to heal and maybe never fully. I pray she sticks to getting help and can have some sort of decent life with peace My heart cries for her ❤️🩹
I dunno but this whole "I do my best to follow the rules" is a sly/manipulative way to say that she does not follow the rules.. softening her infractions and trying to gain sympathy
I totally agree. She was quite rude. Definitely didn't show much empathy and seemed like she didn't think of herself on the same "level" within society as these defendants are. Very sad.
@@debfox When you finally hit that point in your life. Yeah there certain aspects I guess you could prove….but essentially when you Actually Make a True Transformation, Everyone starts noticing
Man I don't think you're trying to be disrespectful, but as a person who is an addict and will always be an addict in current sobriety for 14 years Suboxone saved my life and I'm on a number of prescription medications for number of illnesses not to mention I do smoke weed as well I haven't committed any major crimes like these people but that doesn't mean that it has not helped me and help me become a better person.
Mandoo seems to H8 addicts and knows nothing about addiction. It's an illness based on trauma, almost ALL addicts started drugs because of TRAUMA. No one decides to get addicted but that's how drugs work, they rewire the brain. Subuxone and methadone are medicines that help addicts stay away from opiates. Weed also helps some people. Stop judging addicts, most addicts are NOT violent criminals. Addiction is an illness and some people need treatment for life, just like diabetics do.
The bad part of a suboxone is once you get on it it's really hard to get off of it that's why I personally been honored for over 10 years it's so hard to get off of it. But if it wasn't for suboxone I wouldn't be a functioning member of society
@@stephanieambrose9761yep, but the different between those others is the intoxicating effect, Suboxone doesn't have the effect but methadone and heroin do😂
I hate to see when drugs have someone so far gone like the first woman. It is heartbreaking. I have been on methadone almost two years and ill tell you when it comes to my sobriety and what saved my life.....ill mever give a fuck about someone elses opinion.
I'm sure I'll get plenty of hate, and that's fine. I'll admit that I made the same mistake... and I'll say that anyone who has infants or children in the house at all should always keep all medications in a lock box. My 2yr old son climbed up into the cupboard and got into my Suboxone and ate a piece. Within a few minutes he fell asleep and wouldn't wake up. I don't even have words to describe how horrible and terrifying it was. I thought my baby was dying. I called 911 and they took us to the hospital. Thankfully his vitals were ok.. just a bit slower than normal. They kept him overnight to monitor him, but he ended up being fine and didn't need any treatment at all. I spoke with DCFS at the hospital, but didn't get in trouble because it was an accident.
Omg same! When mine was 2 he was always climbing up to my medicine cabinet n balancing on the sink to randomly go straight for my subs too! Luckily he would only rip off a piece after managing to open that nearly impossible wrapping, so he only went into a small coma. CPS recognized it wasn't one of those "big deal" comas when they came to the hospital. They were very understanding, just like in your case. Crazy as it sounds, at first they wanted to say it was a toddler overdoses and child neglect!! But after I explained that it was just a silly accident, they realized it was a big fuss over nothing. We left the hospital the next day and never heard from CPS again. My baby is grown now , he's a trapeze artist and a member of his area Mensa chapter.. obviously
Bro.... wtf... You're not even supposed to rip the strips at all or even leave pieces outside the wrapper/bottle. Then to let a 2 year old into them? Even my 3 year old who climbs onto the counters couldnt get into a childproof bottle @awkwardautistic
@@pheonixgray6078 They don't come in a bottle.. they come in a paper box. It was in the cupboard and folded up in the wrapper, so I didn't think he could get to it. And I was following my doctor's instructions to cut them in half...as I was tapering my dose. We had a whole lot going on at the time, and I made a huge mistake. I've kept all of our medications in a lock box since then...
@@pheonixgray6078 thank you for recognizing the insane levels of ridiculousness here! I really hope it's a totally made up story, if not, there's a community populated with a frightening number of additional negligent idiots, seemingly in varying positions of power...
😂 there was multiple females. So which one are you talking about !? 😅 It's funny because you guys are agreeing with each other when there's no clarification on which one of the females any of you are speaking about 😅
Right? Ridiculous. I would guarantee her friend opened the door to get out and she started driving off (if she even came to a full stop) because she was so angry, her friend wasn’t trying to get back in,she was trying to get out.
😂 how do you both fail to understand that once she got out she was out, then since she was out she could also get back in instead of walking away ?!?!? It's like you heard the parole broad question the validity of that story and she swayed you into not believing it 😅 The parole lady also said "how does one get attached to the car?" Like that is so crazy to think about. It's simple, one can get attached to car via the seatbelt or they could get their hair caught on the door or their clothing could get hooked on something 😂 its like people have no mind of their own plus no life experience so no way to relate nor and skills of deduction 😮 It's just wild 😂
I'm a people pleaser I need help learning to tell people no but I also have a bad attitude and don't get along with people!! Ok ok go sit down somewhere
51:15 the ineptitude of this person to ask "did you ask for help?" It's quite common for people to be preoccupied in their own lives and not willing to help until it's to late and they have to help. It's also common for drug addicts and even functional people to avoid asking for help as it's a burden to others and will also create feelings of judgement that can lead people to strong aversions towards asking for help. It's not hard it's just common psychological factors... The question was entirely inept of that. 52:40 "you know this. Everybody knows this" the lack of understanding of common psychological factors is just mind boggling. No not everyone considers and has information at the forefront of their mind. Some people don't look past when their next hit will be. The lack of empathy is clear and this woman shouldn't be running these hearings. 55:30 the hostility this woman has towards her is astounding. You can tell she has a Steck up her a*s.
Oh my God She did this to her own child? My Lord It seems to be rampant Rich Poor Every race Are abusing or killing kids in their care. They need much stricter laws
I feel you were to judgmental on the first lady. She had had a tough go addiction is a beast! I think she was doing pretty good for a woman in her circumstances. I grew up around addiction and I have seen first hand what it does to you. She is working hard to better her self most people don't get that far in progress when they are at the level she is at. She is trying hard. I hope the best for her. Most people that was that far down the rabbit hole don't even try to crawl out she has made great progress in my opinion. Also yes some times suboxon is for the first stages of getting clean but some people are so bad that being on the suboxon long term is the best thing for them . I watch a lot of these channels this is the first video of yours I watched. I am not impressed you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to addiction. Suboxon and Marijuana.saves lives I won't be watching your channel try and Educate yourself before you make a video.
My father was addicted and died from heroin in New Haven, CT. When your that far gone in addiction, I think there's no turning back. If you don't get them help early, or even midway, it's near impossible
55:50 The gaslighting is intense. No, throwing a cd is not a violent act. A violent act is intended to cause PHYSICAL harm. You can't conflate physical violence with mental anguish. Definitions matter
It looks like she's on a lot of psych meds. Tardive dyskinesia is involuntary movements, mainly of the tongue and mouth with twisting of the tongue, chewing, and grimacing movements of the face. It can develop after chronic exposure to antipsychotics..
@@kalipw0210It can manifest as early as 1 to 6 months but many develop it after several years. It is unlikely for a patient to develop TD if an antipsychotic is taken for a short period of time. And you're right..In many patients, TD is irreversible and can persist long after the medications that may be causing the symptoms are stopped.
@@kalipw0210 Tardive means delayed or appearing late - TD usually develops after you've been taking medication for a few months, or sometimes years. But you're right.. in many patients, TD is irreversible and can persist long after the medications that may be causing the symptoms are stopped..
She doesn't realize it, but she acts as if they are against her. The system is actually keeping her alive. If wasn't for these systems in place she wouldn't be on camera.
she says she’s a “people pleaser” yet she can’t get along w anyone! she OD’d WHILE in halfway house! it’s possible she has some lingering effects from that. she acts unaware & unaffected by reality of what she’s done or what’s happening now or regarding her future!
I think they should start a new way of therephy by recording themselves and then sitting and watching theirselves so they can get a picture of how awful they really sound and until they can really get what damage theyve done showing a complete 💯% difference they dont get out. If their not saying things like how tf could i have been so heartless, did i really say " the deseased child" when talking about my baby that died because of mr and my drug use... Etc. i know hearing myself talk through things helps me reconize my.errors. you can feel you changed they can feel you changed but until you can sit and hear yourself talk and point out your errors and be upset about them you haven't changed
My Sister has been on Suboxone for 15 years. Some people are so dependent on Opioids that they have to stay on Suboxone for life & it is best for not only them, but the community also. Addiction is a disease & Opioid dependency is an often a lifelong condition. So it’s best that DOC give inmates Suboxone. Opioid dependent persons need to be on it in or out of prison. It is a human right. Not a luxury. Yes, the pharmaceutical companies profit big time. But it is what it is.
That's why they made suboxone.. subutex was about to go out of patent. So they made this bs about "oh we have to put narcan in it so u can't inject it" .. that we can get another 10-20 years of patent has absolutely nothing to do with it!
2nd hearing: yes, for the vast majority of people their worst mistake of all their mistakes does not define them but context here matters so there are times where your single "mistake" is exactly who you are... just wanted to address that as we hear this so many times
@@ThePonyaS the baby accidentally getting into the medication was not a choice.. it was an accident. She didn't keep it in a lock box.. which was a huge mistake but one that many parents make.
@@awkwardautisticit's been a long time since I messed around with Suboxone or anyone else who has but from what I remember those Suboxone strips are clear and there's no reason to cut them up unless you're abusing them, sharing them or selling them. Many people don't make the accident of leaving drugs they are abusing laying around. I smoked crack and abused drugs and didn't leave my sh*t out like that. Who here believes this young child stumbled upon this stuff and has the dexterity to fumble with it much less open the foil? The strips are clear and sticky/gelly, from what I remember. I dunno. Maybe the stuff has changed over the years or perhaps I'm remembering incorrectly but I don't think so because that stuff made me vomit so much and I had an incredible tolerance for drugs so I can't imagine how that poor little girl felt and I just had a tiny sliver of a strip....she deserves to be in prison because of this and her personality traits, IMO
@@ThePonyaSwhat crime did she commit? Not keeping the medication in a safe enough place... the same crime many parents make. I highly doubt that every parent has all medications in the house locked up.
There are numerous drugs that warn against driving or operating heavy equipment but the patient isn't told and SOL if the patient doesn't read the fine print!
I was just given that suboxone at my pain management office and my Dr cut the strip and it almost killed me. It say big as day don’t cut the strip. The warning on the package says it can cause death. I saw it the next day after vomitting 12 hours couldn’t stand was almost passed out. It was the worse ever. It took my stomach over a month and a half to get back right. So she killed her child and I’m sure she had more then one piece… ❤
The reason you were vomiting is because your tolerance is low.. not because the strip was cut. Had it not been cut and you took the full dose you would have been even sicker
@@awkward79 I took the whole dose 2 days later and I was fine. The strip said on the package do not cut it could make you sick or even kill you. Once I saw that and called the office the nurse went off bcuz she said he knew that I should not have been giving the strip cut. An they took me off them completely after I told them that happened and I couldn’t get my stomach back together after it…
@@awkward79 Sorry I forgot each dose I had to take in the Dr office. They wanted to see how it would affect me. I was fine until I walked outside and got in the car, and soon as the car started moving that was it…
@@shantemilburn5044had u been taking other opiat pain drugs for a long time when u started taking sub? Bcoz it sounds like u crashed on it... when u are "addicted" to another opiate and takes suboxone before you are in hard withdrawal then you will go into total hard withdrawal immediately.
Saying that you've been clean for seven years even though you've been on pot and suboxone the whole time because you had permission to use those things is like saying that you've been sober for seven years because all that liquor you drank didn't violate any laws. It's just not what sober means, and it's just not what "clean" means.
This woman NEEDS so much more. She’s got the twitches and she isn’t over her drug use. This woman is going to come out and fail. She’s not there mentally and especially since her son offed himself. A lot of work is needed..
I agree. She is also finding a way to pass her urine tests by using someone’s clean urine In my opinion because she is all over the place. And I feel like once she gets out of the halfway house in 3 months then goes on to start her 3 years of probation and no longer has the free meals and shelter then the overwhelming stress of having to keep her job with nowhere to live and even if she gets a place having so many responsibilities of working and suddenly having to pay rent and food and being on probation with all the stipulations i can guarantee she will relapse. I think it’s a horrible idea that they let her leave in 3 months. She will literally be homeless because her aunt can’t take her so where will she go?
@GigglingHamster a half way house is a tool, you learn responsibility, how to be on time, have a set routine in place, you work while you stay there & they help w resources for transportation, government assistance, shes proven she can’t follow authority or rules, that she isn’t ready for sobriety, sadly it may take bring at rock bottom so far down she can never recover to realize. she’s actively high as hell fighting the nod during the call. you use every resource you can & really take the chance given to you/opportunity for it to better you, like she said she’s defiant, and clearly she hasn’t made any improvements, i have no idea why they didn’t acknowledge her being high, failing 6 tests, as recently as the week before the hearing, hoarded her medication rather than taking it (bc u can’t get high on opiates on that med) so she skipped many doses, could be selling & trading them too. there’s not much you can do tho, forcing her into impatient treatment would fail as well if she isn’t ready & willing & fed up w the cycle.
Hi Mandoo. Responding to 1:05:38 - if I'm not mistaken the Board avoided saying the victims' names, even in the order to stay away ("no contact with the family members of the victim initials D.S."). I wonder if the offender was told to keep the names of the victims out of the public hearing?
I don’t like when people say, “my addiction”, like it’s another person. She said “my addiction took my child” , but SHE lost her child by taking drugs. “IT” ruined her life, well no she ruined her life. It just rubs me the wrong way.
That lady has neurological issues from doing so much drugs . Long hard drug use and get bad shit will cause jerky movements and almost like Parkinson's in a way ive known 3 good friends at one point in time that has burnt out and been beat from the men and it cause one of my friends to go from a very good RN who was into the community and doing for others and and now shes off in left field now and its heartbreaking
I grew up around other ppls addictions. All I hear is excuses with no accountability. Just trying to say the right thing to get their way. Addiction is horrible and its hard to trust a professional liar. 😢
I have been sober since 11-17-18 and 100% agree with the medical marijuana thing for people in “early recovery/monitored/forced recovery.” Recovering addicts should be 100% clean for 12+ months before being prescribed marijuana or controlled substances besides opiate blockers. I was sober for 3 years before addressing my ADHD struggles with my doctor. The first lady is pathetic…watching 2nd now
Sorry, but she appears high right now. Not all there. Zacanini gets down to better questioning but doesn't do anything with it. Why isn't this woman still in prison? She is a danger to society. I agree with you about the suboxin and THC. Totally unbelievable.
After hearing about how the mother beat the Child. I agree, she’s an evil person. Or if she suff w post natal depression, addiction & or mental health- She should have asked DCF for help or sought help from Family.
Why didn't the cops arrest her for beating the kid? That was a criminal referral that the cops didn't act. They passed the buck to CPS, who has no authority to do anything without a family court judge signing orders to remove the kids. You're ripping on the caseworkers for "monitoring" but until a Judge orders CPS to REMOVE the kids CPS literally has no authority to do anything but "encourage" parents to work with them and the services they are getting referred to.
Just a thought about the last woman Ms Robinson and the suboxone she is been taking since she’s been in prison. Let’s keep in mind the State has been prescribing and paying for this highly addictive drug for countless people. . I imagine she chooses to take it and is calling it maintenance. Or is it considered “complying” by taking it? Suboxone is said to be as difficult to come off of as any of the other opioids. Sure sounds like the State is playing a big role in that particular part of the multitude of issues at hand.
I was wondering the same thing. I wasn’t sure if she started it in prison or at the halfway house. If she started after prison, that was a huge mistake. She’s setting herself up for needless withdrawals when she’s already been through them. I’ve been on it for 7 years. One of the rehabs I went to started subscribing soboxon ( I was already on it) To people that didn’t need to be. Opioids wasn’t even their drug of choice, but would hear about when they got there and requested it. They were selling them and others were getting sick because they weren’t used to taking stuff that strong. It was a mess.
Why was she even in a half way house. She deserves to be in prison. She takes no responsibility, accountability or remorse. She is manipulative. Her lack of empathy is astonishing and infuriating. She makes me angry.
I believe she's stoned out of her mind! The meds are really working! 🥴
Exactly! Well said😢😢🎉
She makes you angry? You are making yourself angry. You do not even know, never have met and never will personally talk to in your life. How can she make you mad?
@@sixthwizard2744Lack of accountability gets on a *lot* of people's nerves.
@sixthwizard2744 I don't know Ted Bundy. I don't personally know any pedophiles. I don't know any murderers. I don't know any people who make dumb comments on the internet. But they make me angry, as they should
Thus far, her therapy is not working. No insight and an absence of accountability.
Are you talking the second case? I don't see any lack of accountability.
I agree it's the first case. Haven't watched the second case yet. I'm still too upset about the first one.
@@awkwardautistic2nd case
@@nancyfahey75182nd case but in the 1st one she minimizes a lot which isn't a good thing for sobriety
@@melodywilliams9124 She says it's her fault multiple times.
Her wide eyed, "I know nothing" excuses are infuriating. She cannot possibly bumble through life being completely unaware of what she does and how it effects everyone else around her. It is an easy way for her to side step responsibility and accountability. She is too old to be so immature. So sad.
Great comment. I know a couple 70-80 year olds that behave like this. Infuriating.
@@hiddenhand6973omg😂😂 same!!!
@@hiddenhand6973 Age regression as the brain shrinks over 70-80 years
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That womans children are in college and doing well in spite of her, not because of her.
Is that really necessary? She wasn't claiming they were doing well because of her... she said that they're doing well because they made good choices.
@@awkwardautisticWITHOUT her in their lives,they thrived.
COOL @@donnamorgan2522
Jesus, these comments are so harsh. You have no idea what this woman has done or hasn’t done. Or how the children have thrived or not thrived. Everyone’s got an opinion on someone else’s life but I don’t see you guys out here helping this lady.
@@awkwardautisticthank you
Mandoo!! I can’t believe how long it’s been since you started this journey, and you’re still killing it. So glad to watch you grow from the beginning!!
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Agree!
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He doesn't even realize it😊 His accomplishments are getting GREATER and NOTICED 🎉🎉🎉! More and more of on daily. AWESOME CHANNEL MANDOO..❤❤❤
Suboxone changed my life! It takes away all cravings and allows you to live a sober life. If you have never struggled, you may not understand, but it counts as sobriety for recovering addicts.
Do you believe that one should remain on it for life?
@Mandoo_TWO no not at all. But I do think that they should stay on it for as long as they need to to get their lives back to normal. The people are not only addicted to the drugs, but to the lifestyle. So reintegration is crucial for some, prior to stopping.
@@Mandoo_TWOabsolutely not. A responsible doctor would slowly ween you off after about year or so. But suboxone makes it possible for one to not experience the horrendous symptoms of opiate withdrawal which is a major thing that keeps people using. It helps you focus on the therapy and tools you need to make sure you can improve yourself and your relationships with substances and how that impacts your relationships with humans. Good work. New subscriber 😊
@Mandoo_TWO there is no reason an addict can't take Suboxone for life. With all do respect, you should do research before putting out dangerous misinformation about this lifesaving medication that does not impair and helps recovering addicts to go on and live functional and fulfilling lives. It is interesting to watch these hearings, but your commentary is lacks compassion and empathy. Why are you so opposed to addicts in recovery take a medication that keeps them from relapse. Also, a addict coming out of prison is at the highest risk of overdose and death. When prescribed Suboxone that risk is greatly reduced. This medication takes away cravings and also reduces the effect of opiates. Why are you so dead set on prisoners being weaned off before getting out?
This medication is not a "money grab" for the pharmaceutical companies and the prisons. It saves lives.
There is no rush to wean off Suboxone. If you need to remain on it for life, so be it. Please don't put your recovery in jeopardy and feel pressured into stopping this life saving medication just bc of the negative stigma of MAT that continues to plague society.
The first chick has a Marijuana card?....she is so far gone, unfortunately
Crazy that inmates have cards
I know it's only his opinion and he has a right to that but I know lots of people on Subutex or suboxone that are different people because of it. I think she's way off on her thinking process but to say no one is clean or should be on meds long term is a very dangerous statement to make. My best friend stopped taking it after ten years because of people's opinions that they weren't "clean" even though he had been able to work, gain his kids back, buy a home, car and be in the best health of his life and 2 months later we buried him. We don't know everyone's situation and this disease if life or death so if it works, it's better than dying and who are we to judge?
You know lots of people on it? Where are you hanging out, miss?
I’m so sorry for your loss. I wish negative people would just keep their mouths shut
@StaceyNew I agree with everything you said here.
@@hiddenhand6973You mostly know a lot of people taking it too. Addiction does not discriminate, it can affect anyone from any race or social class, addiction is an equal opportunity disease.
WHY such a comment? Your stigma, is a HUGE part of the problem. Many, many people are on this medication. You wouldn't know it, because they are just as normal as you are. They aren't "hanging out" anywhere besides in our community. People that are on this, are on it to return to being contributing members of society.
I pray for all drug addicts in recovery, its not easy getting off heavy drugs.
I pray for their families and victims.
She had no choice 😮 she was locked up, and she couldn't do drugs or drinking
@@nothing4mepls973thanks for pointing that out…there is always a victim that gets traumatized.😔
@@nothing4mepls973. 100% yes. I see so many people fawn and pray for the criminals to get help. It’s like they forget or fail to realize the fact that these people are where they are means there is one or more victims. They are the ones that need people’s sympathy. They are the ones whose suffering was not brought on by their own choices.
@Nicc93 Amen 🙏
She doesn’t get it-without her in their lives,her children have THRIVED!
Had she not gone to Prison,I seriously doubt their futures would be so bright
Wow, I guess you’re a mind reader then right and I know you can see the future. I’m sure you’re the most perfect parent. Also aren’t you. It’s not like this lady shoved these drugs down the child’s throat.
@@Just_Jess01 SHE says she didn’t…sure makes sense breaking tablets down to pieces…to feed to a young child
@@Just_Jess01 I've been around *plenty* of addicts who were decent parents! THIS woman is beyond the pale with her excuses, lies and selfishness.
@@donnamorgan2522Actually, breaking up the dose of Suboxone is a regular practice for the induction of this medication. Cutting it up into smaller doses is exactly how this medication is prescribed in the beginning. She was trying to get off drugs by taking the Suboxone.
This woman seems to have remorse and is taking appropriate accountability.
I wish her the best 🤍
She obviously did not write her own statement or even read it in advance. "prepare for successful... reintra... inter... reintegregation into society..."; "...contribute postivately..."
That's exactly what I was thinking 🤔
my EXACT thoughts too! i believe it had to be a generic “prisoner’s letter to the parole board template”!!!
There's no way the woman on the first call is clean. She is high as a kite. The frozen facial expressions, the extraneous movements, she is soaring
The parole board said the halfway house staff is supposed to help...I'm in a halfway house in ct and they do not help they watch movies and talk on the phone ..I've even heard them I couldn't help you if I wanted to cause I don't have time ct halfway house is terrible
a halfway house is not meant to rehabilitate. it is meant to house people in a structured environment. nobody is here to do your work, you shouldn't be concerned with what the staff is doing. you're there to wake up on time, make your bed, perform hygiene, go to work, and be a productive member of society. period.
@@notyourdaddie8454that’s hard for them to do…they’re used to using others for the basic things.. they feel entitled, it’s crazy.
As a mother how do you refer to your child as "the deceased child"?
The parole board referred to the one who died as the deceased child so the woman used the same language.
That second girl with the passing away of the baby OHH MYY GAWDDD. She had me fuming 🤬she had an excuse for EVERYTHING
She's full of excuses for EVERYTHING that they are asking her about. No accountability for anything. It's doubtful that Londyn died from a tiny piece of Suboxone.She was trying to wean herself off of opiates, yet they found Oxycodone in her system??!! How/WHY was that baby allowed access to such dangerous drugs? This was all so preventable had Heather not been such a horrible mother and also because of all of the occurances that DCF was aware of which is infuriating! 😡 Thankfully, her other children were given a better chance for survival and thrived because of it. She deserves every minute that she's in prison. She should have been given MORE time in prison in my opinion. R.I.P. Rest in Peace Londyn.🙏 R.I.P. Rot in Prison Heather☠
Absolutely CORRECT and Well said ok every point.🎉🎉🎉
@@stephanieambrose9761 Thank you.
It is absolutely possible for someone to still be positive for oxycodone while also starting Suboxone.
@@tigerlilygirl2643 I don't recall hearing anything about her being on Suboxone.
@@Oceaneyes-eh6vs Both of the women in these cases are now prescribed Suboxone in order to maintain their sobriety.
Watching the replay. This woman can't even keep her story straight! She's such a liar! She knows she ran this woman over intentionally!
Opioids are not like weed or Meth where the person will be over it after withdrawal. A person who’s been dependent on opioids for a long time does not get high on Suboxone. The Suboxone only helps them to function & live an as normal as possible life.
This is true.
Actually, Suboxone isn’t really intoxicating, especially if you have been taking it for a long time.
@MichaelSmith-hk2uu you don't even know what you're talking about 😂
That's not stupid, it's accurate @MichaelSmith-hk2uu
@@pheonixgray6078 umm actually I think you might be the one who is confused here. To an addict who takes it everyday it does nothing for you! It literally makes you feel normal. It’s intoxicating for someone who isn’t an addict.
@nailsbymaz7214 that's rich, you can't see I'm replying to a comment that's no longer there? Maybe something that went against the O.P.'s comment? I've been on subs 7 years. Luckily for me it hasn't damaged my reading comprehension. 😁
It's true it does not have an intoxicating effect.. You certainly wouldn't lose your memory on it.
Mr. Marabella would be having a coronary!!!!!
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This comment wins first place 🎉👏 I'm going to miss him so much! 😢
@@lauracook8203 me too 😢
Best comment ever!!!!!😂
Tony would probably go back to drinking, he'd be so stresseed!
I love seeing active members of Mandoo World Representing. And saying what is accurate assessment of what we viewing. Much Respect 🎉🎉❤
What a mess.. so sad
Thank you so much, Mandoo! Excellent work! ❤
They never said stay off of drugs... coke, heroin, just don't drink alcohol... like WTF
I think it goes into "don't commit crimes".
Why is she bobbing her head like that
Antipsychotics
It has to do with how alcoholism affects people long after they have stopped drinking my grandma was an alcoholic for a long period of her life she got sober and she done the samething head bobbing body movements etc. everything that lady did was not voluntary it’s the after affects of becoming sober from alcohol. Alcoholism is the worst kind of addiction to have per popular belief it’s one of the most dangerous addictions to become sober from honestly. It’s sad that it’s legal and no one really does a deep dive of research first..
@@espencer243I'm a recovering drug addict,I know a lot of recovery alcoholics, cosicoff syndrome (sic) or wet brain,sounds horrific to me.alcohol is socially acceptable,yet one of the most dangerous drugs on the planet.
Can be a symptom of chronic drug use, illicit and pharmacutical, even years after stopping.
Could be a nervous tick.
Mandoo, I'm saying this respectfully because I'm sure you're just not aware.
But the stigma surrounding medication assisted treatment for opioid use disorder, KILLS people.
Many people remain on maintenance doses of Suboxone for decades. They continue to work, manage responsibilities at home, enjoy healthy relationships and satisfying careers, and function successfully with the help of ongoing Suboxone therapy.
It is viewed as a medication for a chronic condition, similar to a person with type 1 diabetes needing to take insulin. To say that you aren't really in recovery if you are on Suboxone is stigmatizing to people who take Suboxone, and it's not the medical reality of effective addiction treatment.
Research shows that long-term treatment with Suboxone significantly improves outcomes compared to short-term treatment, and saves lives.
Buprenorphine does not cause a euphoric high like heroin or other opioids..it is only a "partial" agonist of the main opiate receptor (the "mu" receptor).
Unfortunately, within the addiction community and among the public at large, certain myths about Suboxone persist, and these myths add a further barrier to treatment for people who are suffering.
You said it perfectly! Thanks!
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@@jenniferthacker4231 💕.
@@jenniferthacker4231 So much stigma and misinformation surrounding Suboxone.
Thank you for saying this. Yes.
They really need to know more about medications to get off drugs and how the urine testing works if they are going t base their decisions on what they do not know. If her medication caused her to have positive test results then all her test results would be positive, not just 6. When you take suboxone or methadone you take it every day, i mean you might rarely miss a day but that’s it. If you miss 3 doses in a row they cut you off because you build up to your dose gradually and it is dangerous to miss 3 days and then take a full dose. Which means if you are on one of those types of medications you will always test positive for those meds. But their tests do check for what you have taken, not just that you took something. I have been on methadone for 12 years, clean within 3 months of going on it, and i know a lot of other people on it, those rules are laid out by the government and all clinics follow thm.
That’s a long time do you try to taper?
Some people do better to stay on it the rest of their lives just like a diabetic uses insulin
Before methadone 3 felonies 29 misdemeanors 9 rehabs over 1000 AA NA meetimg absolutely nothing worked i get on methadone been clean 5 years have a good job a house no crimes committed in 5 yrs got off parole finished college
@@SecondHandReactionYep, I've been on Suboxone for 6yrs now. I don't like having to take a medication everyday.. but it's better than shooting fentanyl or death.
Same. But they stopped the pee test at most of the clinics in my state and do swabs. Much less fraud. You sit in a room with chairs and 1 monitor to make sure the swab is in your mouth.
This chick is so full of it. Suboxone, methadone and subutex show up separately than opioids, benzos or crystal meth. The fact that the board member fell for this is crazy. She denied everything- acted like she had no idea that they can't stand her at the halfway house and have written her up. Pretty sure in any situation involving write ups, the person written up has to sign it.
Regardless of what she did ( first mom) , losing not one but two kids to addiction has probably broken her completely. She probably sees no way out. No one deserves the pain of burying a child. I’ve lost a child, he had a brain bleed. It takes years to heal and maybe never fully. I pray she sticks to getting help and can have some sort of decent life with peace
My heart cries for her ❤️🩹
Great job, Mandoo. You hit the nail on the head. As always. Much love and thank you for all of your hard work! ❤ We love you!!
Yes we LOVE YOU MANDO!!😊😊😊❤❤
She looks high af 1:30
Antipsychotics
no, that's not antipychotics. that's alcohol and/or drugs.
@@notyourdaddie8454 no, it's not.
You every do drugs before?@awkwardautistic
^ I’m on lithium & it doesn’t make me look like I’m on meth or some shit lol
I dunno but this whole "I do my best to follow the rules" is a sly/manipulative way to say that she does not follow the rules.. softening her infractions and trying to gain sympathy
That parole board lady obviously doesn't understand the power of addiction. She is rude and should not be on that board.
I totally agree. She was quite rude. Definitely didn't show much empathy and seemed like she didn't think of herself on the same "level" within society as these defendants are. Very sad.
Yeah she hasn’t accepted full responsibility. Thats really sad 😞
she isn't capable
I agree! All I hear is I, I , I.
@@debfox When you finally hit that point in your life. Yeah there certain aspects I guess you could prove….but essentially when you Actually Make a True Transformation, Everyone starts noticing
Man I don't think you're trying to be disrespectful, but as a person who is an addict and will always be an addict in current sobriety for 14 years Suboxone saved my life and I'm on a number of prescription medications for number of illnesses not to mention I do smoke weed as well I haven't committed any major crimes like these people but that doesn't mean that it has not helped me and help me become a better person.
Exactly!!!
Mandoo seems to H8 addicts and knows nothing about addiction. It's an illness based on trauma, almost ALL addicts started drugs because of TRAUMA. No one decides to get addicted but that's how drugs work, they rewire the brain.
Subuxone and methadone are medicines that help addicts stay away from opiates.
Weed also helps some people.
Stop judging addicts, most addicts are NOT violent criminals.
Addiction is an illness and some people need treatment for life, just like diabetics do.
Thank you Mandoo 💖
The bad part of a suboxone is once you get on it it's really hard to get off of it that's why I personally been honored for over 10 years it's so hard to get off of it. But if it wasn't for suboxone I wouldn't be a functioning member of society
Just like Heroin, I hear you and Methadone is in the same category. 😮😮😮 Just saying😮😮
@@stephanieambrose9761yep, but the different between those others is the intoxicating effect, Suboxone doesn't have the effect but methadone and heroin do😂
I hate to see when drugs have someone so far gone like the first woman. It is heartbreaking. I have been on methadone almost two years and ill tell you when it comes to my sobriety and what saved my life.....ill mever give a fuck about someone elses opinion.
I'm sure I'll get plenty of hate, and that's fine. I'll admit that I made the same mistake... and I'll say that anyone who has infants or children in the house at all should always keep all medications in a lock box.
My 2yr old son climbed up into the cupboard and got into my Suboxone and ate a piece. Within a few minutes he fell asleep and wouldn't wake up. I don't even have words to describe how horrible and terrifying it was. I thought my baby was dying.
I called 911 and they took us to the hospital. Thankfully his vitals were ok.. just a bit slower than normal. They kept him overnight to monitor him, but he ended up being fine and didn't need any treatment at all. I spoke with DCFS at the hospital, but didn't get in trouble because it was an accident.
Omg same! When mine was 2 he was always climbing up to my medicine cabinet n balancing on the sink to randomly go straight for my subs too! Luckily he would only rip off a piece after managing to open that nearly impossible wrapping, so he only went into a small coma. CPS recognized it wasn't one of those "big deal" comas when they came to the hospital. They were very understanding, just like in your case. Crazy as it sounds, at first they wanted to say it was a toddler overdoses and child neglect!! But after I explained that it was just a silly accident, they realized it was a big fuss over nothing. We left the hospital the next day and never heard from CPS again. My baby is grown now , he's a trapeze artist and a member of his area Mensa chapter.. obviously
@@hannahrose266 He wasn't in a coma at all.. and it was already opened with a small piece inside. Crazy lady.
Bro.... wtf... You're not even supposed to rip the strips at all or even leave pieces outside the wrapper/bottle. Then to let a 2 year old into them? Even my 3 year old who climbs onto the counters couldnt get into a childproof bottle @awkwardautistic
@@pheonixgray6078 They don't come in a bottle.. they come in a paper box. It was in the cupboard and folded up in the wrapper, so I didn't think he could get to it.
And I was following my doctor's instructions to cut them in half...as I was tapering my dose.
We had a whole lot going on at the time, and I made a huge mistake. I've kept all of our medications in a lock box since then...
@@pheonixgray6078 thank you for recognizing the insane levels of ridiculousness here! I really hope it's a totally made up story, if not, there's a community populated with a frightening number of additional negligent idiots, seemingly in varying positions of power...
Im not getting good vibe about her
That a nice way of saying it..agreed
She is not taking any responsibility 😊
Yah that's what happens when the drug addict steps into that world their brain 🧠 is affected for life.
😂 there was multiple females. So which one are you talking about !?
😅 It's funny because you guys are agreeing with each other when there's no clarification on which one of the females any of you are speaking about 😅
@auntjenifer7774 don't even worry about it lol they probably don't know ❤😂
19:09 is it just me or does she act like she’s on something during this call? Those faces she makes are crazy.
I'm thinking the same thing. 😢
She is on weed.. and something else.. couldn't hear what they said.
I would guess she was on meth and that crap gives you ticks that last year's if not for life. That stuff fries your brain.
She's definitely on something. 100%
Her friend was getting out of the car, at the same time, she was trying to get back in the car 🤔
Right? Ridiculous. I would guarantee her friend opened the door to get out and she started driving off (if she even came to a full stop) because she was so angry, her friend wasn’t trying to get back in,she was trying to get out.
@@karidennis6154 she was trying to escape the crazy woman
😂 how do you both fail to understand that once she got out she was out, then since she was out she could also get back in instead of walking away ?!?!? It's like you heard the parole broad question the validity of that story and she swayed you into not believing it 😅
The parole lady also said "how does one get attached to the car?" Like that is so crazy to think about. It's simple, one can get attached to car via the seatbelt or they could get their hair caught on the door or their clothing could get hooked on something 😂 its like people have no mind of their own plus no life experience so no way to relate nor and skills of deduction 😮
It's just wild 😂
I'm a people pleaser I need help learning to tell people no but I also have a bad attitude and don't get along with people!! Ok ok go sit down somewhere
OMG 😡 Such a tragedy for baby Londyn.
A Terrible Injustice if they release and give her kids back. 😢😢😢😢
We DO need to watch you vent about this because you are right on!
51:15 the ineptitude of this person to ask "did you ask for help?" It's quite common for people to be preoccupied in their own lives and not willing to help until it's to late and they have to help. It's also common for drug addicts and even functional people to avoid asking for help as it's a burden to others and will also create feelings of judgement that can lead people to strong aversions towards asking for help. It's not hard it's just common psychological factors... The question was entirely inept of that.
52:40 "you know this. Everybody knows this" the lack of understanding of common psychological factors is just mind boggling. No not everyone considers and has information at the forefront of their mind. Some people don't look past when their next hit will be. The lack of empathy is clear and this woman shouldn't be running these hearings.
55:30 the hostility this woman has towards her is astounding. You can tell she has a Steck up her a*s.
The faces the two women are making at each other is sickening.
Oh my God
She did this to her own child?
My Lord
It seems to be rampant
Rich
Poor
Every race
Are abusing or killing kids in their care.
They need much stricter laws
Yes SHE DID!! A MOTHER OF EXCUSES!! SHE IS NOT READY😮 NO, NO, 😢NO, NO NO 😮😮
Thank you feedback after Richards surgery and i pray that he goes from strength to strength. Richard is still in my prayers 🙏
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Hey well Richard, take care of yourself because Mandoo World needs YOU!!❤❤❤
I feel you were to judgmental on the first lady. She had had a tough go addiction is a beast! I think she was doing pretty good for a woman in her circumstances. I grew up around addiction and I have seen first hand what it does to you. She is working hard to better her self most people don't get that far in progress when they are at the level she is at. She is trying hard. I hope the best for her. Most people that was that far down the rabbit hole don't even try to crawl out she has made great progress in my opinion. Also yes some times suboxon is for the first stages of getting clean but some people are so bad that being on the suboxon long term is the best thing for them . I watch a lot of these channels this is the first video of yours I watched. I am not impressed you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to addiction. Suboxon and Marijuana.saves lives I won't be watching your channel try and Educate yourself before you make a video.
Thanks again Mandoo and chat fam for another awesome premier. 😊
51:40 starting here is a MASSIVE lie. She got the illegal suboxone and was crushing it to snort it. Shes acting like she was trying to get off lol
You can't get high on subs unless you're a first time user so I don't believe that at all
My father was addicted and died from heroin in New Haven, CT. When your that far gone in addiction, I think there's no turning back. If you don't get them help early, or even midway, it's near impossible
55:50 The gaslighting is intense. No, throwing a cd is not a violent act. A violent act is intended to cause PHYSICAL harm. You can't conflate physical violence with mental anguish. Definitions matter
She is a crazy person
Mandoo, I love your passion for these child victims. Thank you so much for standing up for them!!!!
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She's obviously not self aware bc the faces she makes can't be helpful
It looks like she's on a lot of psych meds. Tardive dyskinesia is involuntary movements, mainly of the tongue and mouth with twisting of the tongue, chewing, and grimacing movements of the face.
It can develop after chronic exposure to antipsychotics..
@@awkwardautisticIt can develope at any time and become permanent.
@@kalipw0210It can manifest as early as 1 to 6 months but many develop it after several years. It is unlikely for a patient to develop TD if an antipsychotic is taken for a short period of time.
And you're right..In many patients, TD is irreversible and can persist long after the medications that may be causing the symptoms are stopped.
@@awkwardautisticMeth spasms
@@kalipw0210 Tardive means delayed or appearing late - TD usually develops after you've been taking medication for a few months, or sometimes years.
But you're right.. in many patients, TD is irreversible and can persist long after the medications that may be causing the symptoms are stopped..
Poor woman. Those meds have caused Tardive dyskinesia.
She doesn't realize it, but she acts as if they are against her. The system is actually keeping her alive. If wasn't for these systems in place she wouldn't be on camera.
The second one is sad and irresponsible of her and she makes alot of excuses
8:43 This mother is STILL in denial. NO accountability! 😡
she says she’s a “people pleaser” yet she can’t get along w anyone! she OD’d WHILE in halfway house! it’s possible she has some lingering effects from that. she acts unaware & unaffected by reality of what she’s done or what’s happening now or regarding her future!
Sounds like she was robbing her friend and got caught in the door or held on and either got dragged to death or run over or both.
Ok i mean this with all do respect you shouldnt be talking about MAT treatment if you dont really know shit about it.
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I think they should start a new way of therephy by recording themselves and then sitting and watching theirselves so they can get a picture of how awful they really sound and until they can really get what damage theyve done showing a complete 💯% difference they dont get out. If their not saying things like how tf could i have been so heartless, did i really say " the deseased child" when talking about my baby that died because of mr and my drug use... Etc. i know hearing myself talk through things helps me reconize my.errors. you can feel you changed they can feel you changed but until you can sit and hear yourself talk and point out your errors and be upset about them you haven't changed
My Sister has been on Suboxone for 15 years. Some people are so dependent on Opioids that they have to stay on Suboxone for life & it is best for not only them, but the community also. Addiction is a disease & Opioid dependency is an often a lifelong condition. So it’s best that DOC give inmates Suboxone. Opioid dependent persons need to be on it in or out of prison. It is a human right. Not a luxury. Yes, the pharmaceutical companies profit big time. But it is what it is.
That's why they made suboxone.. subutex was about to go out of patent. So they made this bs about "oh we have to put narcan in it so u can't inject it" .. that we can get another 10-20 years of patent has absolutely nothing to do with it!
2nd hearing: yes, for the vast majority of people their worst mistake of all their mistakes does not define them but context here matters so there are times where your single "mistake" is exactly who you are... just wanted to address that as we hear this so many times
I hate when they say “it was a mistake” 🙄 nope it was a CHOICE”‼️
@@ThePonyaS the baby accidentally getting into the medication was not a choice.. it was an accident. She didn't keep it in a lock box.. which was a huge mistake but one that many parents make.
@@awkwardautistic I was talking about the ppl who commit crimes, not the Baby
@@awkwardautisticit's been a long time since I messed around with Suboxone or anyone else who has but from what I remember those Suboxone strips are clear and there's no reason to cut them up unless you're abusing them, sharing them or selling them. Many people don't make the accident of leaving drugs they are abusing laying around. I smoked crack and abused drugs and didn't leave my sh*t out like that. Who here believes this young child stumbled upon this stuff and has the dexterity to fumble with it much less open the foil? The strips are clear and sticky/gelly, from what I remember. I dunno. Maybe the stuff has changed over the years or perhaps I'm remembering incorrectly but I don't think so because that stuff made me vomit so much and I had an incredible tolerance for drugs so I can't imagine how that poor little girl felt and I just had a tiny sliver of a strip....she deserves to be in prison because of this and her personality traits, IMO
@@ThePonyaSwhat crime did she commit? Not keeping the medication in a safe enough place... the same crime many parents make. I highly doubt that every parent has all medications in the house locked up.
Mandoo thank you for bringing us these cases even though they we feel like going through the ceiling when these horrid people get granted parole.
There are numerous drugs that warn against driving or operating heavy equipment but the patient isn't told and SOL if the patient doesn't read the fine print!
Suboxon withdrawal is so much worse than opioids.
Nah not at all.
I was just given that suboxone at my pain management office and my Dr cut the strip and it almost killed me. It say big as day don’t cut the strip. The warning on the package says it can cause death. I saw it the next day after vomitting 12 hours couldn’t stand was almost passed out. It was the worse ever. It took my stomach over a month and a half to get back right. So she killed her child and I’m sure she had more then one piece… ❤
It does not cause death when you cut it.. you're just taking less and it's perfectly fine.
The reason you were vomiting is because your tolerance is low.. not because the strip was cut. Had it not been cut and you took the full dose you would have been even sicker
@@awkward79 I took the whole dose 2 days later and I was fine. The strip said on the package do not cut it could make you sick or even kill you. Once I saw that and called the office the nurse went off bcuz she said he knew that I should not have been giving the strip cut. An they took me off them completely after I told them that happened and I couldn’t get my stomach back together after it…
@@awkward79 Sorry I forgot each dose I had to take in the Dr office. They wanted to see how it would affect me. I was fine until I walked outside and got in the car, and soon as the car started moving that was it…
@@shantemilburn5044had u been taking other opiat pain drugs for a long time when u started taking sub?
Bcoz it sounds like u crashed on it... when u are "addicted" to another opiate and takes suboxone before you are in hard withdrawal then you will go into total hard withdrawal immediately.
She sounds and looks high in the parole interview 😮
She's all twitchy
Leave her in there !
Dang she is hard core! She may need to be in long term rehab and CBT.
I love you Mandoo in the most plantonic way. Thanks for posting parole hearings!
The half way house lady is either high or drunk 🙄
Both she is drunk and high at the same time 😂
100%, I was looking for this comment
😂😂😂 RIGHT!!!
@@notyourdaddie8454same.. Thank you
She would be kicked out of the halfway house if she was using.
Saying that you've been clean for seven years even though you've been on pot and suboxone the whole time because you had permission to use those things is like saying that you've been sober for seven years because all that liquor you drank didn't violate any laws. It's just not what sober means, and it's just not what "clean" means.
Lmfao ok Patrick😂🎉
This woman NEEDS so much more. She’s got the twitches and she isn’t over her drug use. This woman is going to come out and fail. She’s not there mentally and especially since her son offed himself. A lot of work is needed..
I agree. She is also finding a way to pass her urine tests by using someone’s clean urine In my opinion because she is all over the place. And I feel like once she gets out of the halfway house in 3 months then goes on to start her 3 years of probation and no longer has the free meals and shelter then the overwhelming stress of having to keep her job with nowhere to live and even if she gets a place having so many responsibilities of working and suddenly having to pay rent and food and being on probation with all the stipulations i can guarantee she will relapse. I think it’s a horrible idea that they let her leave in 3 months. She will literally be homeless because her aunt can’t take her so where will she go?
@GigglingHamster a half way house is a tool, you learn responsibility, how to be on time, have a set routine in place, you work while you stay there & they help w resources for transportation, government assistance, shes proven she can’t follow authority or rules, that she isn’t ready for sobriety, sadly it may take bring at rock bottom so far down she can never recover to realize. she’s actively high as hell fighting the nod during the call. you use every resource you can & really take the chance given to you/opportunity for it to better you, like she said she’s defiant, and clearly she hasn’t made any improvements, i have no idea why they didn’t acknowledge her being high, failing 6 tests, as recently as the week before the hearing, hoarded her medication rather than taking it (bc u can’t get high on opiates on that med) so she skipped many doses, could be selling & trading them too. there’s not much you can do tho, forcing her into impatient treatment would fail as well if she isn’t ready & willing & fed up w the cycle.
That little girl was so beautiful
Hi Mandoo. Responding to 1:05:38 - if I'm not mistaken the Board avoided saying the victims' names, even in the order to stay away ("no contact with the family members of the victim initials D.S."). I wonder if the offender was told to keep the names of the victims out of the public hearing?
😂Mandoo saying "Oh, I thought it was a stomach bug!" 😂😂
She’s on the right path???????
She shouldn’t even be in a half way house. She needs to be in prison. She says she’s been clean 4 years. She sounds high now!
I don’t like when people say, “my addiction”, like it’s another person. She said “my addiction took my child” , but SHE lost her child by taking drugs. “IT” ruined her life, well no she ruined her life. It just rubs me the wrong way.
What would you like them to say?
@@Michael-pf8we she could say “My choices led to…”
@@BlueGirafffes who cares?
@@Michael-pf8we shows ownership for behavior
I have no words Thanks mandoo 👋👋👋💜💜💜
That lady has neurological issues from doing so much drugs . Long hard drug use and get bad shit will cause jerky movements and almost like Parkinson's in a way ive known 3 good friends at one point in time that has burnt out and been beat from the men and it cause one of my friends to go from a very good RN who was into the community and doing for others and and now shes off in left field now and its heartbreaking
I thought exactly the same. Very sad x
I grew up around other ppls addictions. All I hear is excuses with no accountability. Just trying to say the right thing to get their way. Addiction is horrible and its hard to trust a professional liar. 😢
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So sad.. that sweet baby 😢💔🙏🏼
I have been sober since 11-17-18 and 100% agree with the medical marijuana thing for people in “early recovery/monitored/forced recovery.” Recovering addicts should be 100% clean for 12+ months before being prescribed marijuana or controlled substances besides opiate blockers. I was sober for 3 years before addressing my ADHD struggles with my doctor. The first lady is pathetic…watching 2nd now
Damn her eyes are scaring the crap outta me 😳
Sorry, but she appears high right now. Not all there.
Zacanini gets down to better questioning but doesn't do anything with it. Why isn't this woman still in prison? She is a danger to society.
I agree with you about the suboxin and THC. Totally unbelievable.
Joette KATZ has lawsuits and complaints, however is no longer Commissioner for the Connecticut Department of Children and Families thankfully
After hearing about how the mother beat the Child. I agree, she’s an evil person. Or if she suff w post natal depression, addiction & or mental health- She should have asked DCF for help or sought help from Family.
Why didn't the cops arrest her for beating the kid? That was a criminal referral that the cops didn't act. They passed the buck to CPS, who has no authority to do anything without a family court judge signing orders to remove the kids. You're ripping on the caseworkers for "monitoring" but until a Judge orders CPS to REMOVE the kids CPS literally has no authority to do anything but "encourage" parents to work with them and the services they are getting referred to.
could you possibly timestamp the narrator at the end of each case so i can skip it easily?
Prison. Disgusting evil person. Poor child. Praying the child recovers and lives a good life without her in it. ❤➕❤🙏😇
This second one breaks my soul. She should never be allowed around children again.
DOC number meaningless without the state.
Where's the board
Just a thought about the last woman Ms Robinson and the suboxone she is been taking since she’s been in prison.
Let’s keep in mind the State has been prescribing and paying for this highly addictive drug for countless people. . I imagine she chooses to take it and is calling it maintenance. Or is it considered “complying” by taking it?
Suboxone is said to be as difficult to come off of as any of the other opioids.
Sure sounds like the State is playing a big role in that particular part of the multitude of issues at hand.
I was wondering the same thing. I wasn’t sure if she started it in prison or at the halfway house. If she started after prison, that was a huge mistake. She’s setting herself up for needless withdrawals when she’s already been through them. I’ve been on it for 7 years. One of the rehabs I went to started subscribing soboxon ( I was already on it)
To people that didn’t need to be. Opioids wasn’t even their drug of choice, but would hear about when they got there and requested it. They were selling them and others were getting sick because they weren’t used to taking stuff that strong. It was a mess.
It's SAVING addicts! Your comment is ignorant.
What ?
Tell me you didn’t write your own speech without telling me. She can’t pronounce half the words 🤦♀️😂🤯
1:11:39 This Report should have a few people in Jail.. Seriously,!!😢😢😢😢