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In your old videos on this same series, you did a lot of vowel elision. In the new ones like this one, hardly any. Did you discuss this anywhere? Is this simplified for beginners (but less realistic), or is this reflective of a newer understanding of what is more realistic?
I'll be making an in-depth video for polýMATHY next month in which I explain this in more detail. The merger of vowels between words is called synaloephe, and there are several varieties, forming a spectrum. Elision is where the first vowel is removed entirely, and prodelision is where the following vowel is removed entirely. Both are attested as having existed in Classical Latin, as they do in Italian, Spanish, etc. But modern languages like Italian don't use just elision or prodelision, but unmarked coalescence is much more common, called synizesis. The most important thing for Latin is *not* to have disyllabic hiatus except very very rarely, and instead to ensure a monosyllabic solution. The old videos showed the extreme but acceptable version of elision or prodelision, which is easier than synizesis, a more sophisticated solution to creating a monosyllable. Page 92 of Vox Graeca by Allen has a good schematic on this.
Hi @@ScorpioMartianus this answer of yours got me very excited about that in-depth video you announced. Is it still in the works? Would really love to see it.
If you read from chapter one, you can literally understand every single word progressively from just reading the book and nothing else (As a Spanish speaker). It's actually a pretty cool experience. This series of books gets you to an advanced level where you can the start to read historical latin texts without much Hassel (Just having to look a few words words an expressions up here and there)
@@moacirbarbosacastro8923 It is a guided experience, if you do the exercises and read all the material in order. You can START to read latin texts. You do have to invest quite some time to get there, but the experience is enjoyable! And once you are comfortable with actually latin texts you will learn quite quickly. You will notice tho, that the second book is already quite daunting at the beginning
Ciao Luke, Grazie per le sue video! Mi puo spiegare perchè la pronuncia Latina è cosi lontana di quella di tutte le lingue e dialetti dell'Italia di oggi? Grazie
Innanzitutto, il latino ha cinque vocali (la E e la O erano più probabilmente vocali aperte), mentre l'italiano standard ne ha sette. In secondo luogo, in Sardegna esistono alcuni dialetti che si avvicinano alla pronuncia del latino. Conservano la C e G dure, e, in misura maggiore, le vocali lunghe e brevi.
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Poor Syra, I just wanna give her a hug!!😭
Oh my, hahah 🥲😭
Man, that Marcus is a real piece of work😂
38 years after having studied Latin in school, for one year, I totally understood the text and the syntax!
Really? You must have had a good instructor.
And which languages do you speak? For us Portuguese speakers, and for the other Romance speakers, it is easier to understand.
Optimus et accuratissimus recitatricis pronuntiatus!
Wow, I almost understood that, and I’ve only been listening to these videos for a couple weeks!
And which languages do you speak? For us Portuguese speakers, and for the other Romance speakers, it is easier to understand.
Thank you for doing these recordings. I greatly appreciate all the work you put in to them. 🙏
Thanks for watching! More to come
Great Job!
This second version is even nicer than the first one. Thank you, Luke, regards from Mainz in Germany
Omg… Hans isn’t pulling any punches with Syra.
Nice - I've been waiting for this! I like the new recordings so much!
Io ti ammiro molto... Ti ho conosciuto nei video di Davide... Sei davvero bravo ad imparare lingue
Oh mea! ridet, qui syra foedus magnus. Hehehe. oratrix mirabilia.
In your old videos on this same series, you did a lot of vowel elision. In the new ones like this one, hardly any. Did you discuss this anywhere? Is this simplified for beginners (but less realistic), or is this reflective of a newer understanding of what is more realistic?
I'll be making an in-depth video for polýMATHY next month in which I explain this in more detail. The merger of vowels between words is called synaloephe, and there are several varieties, forming a spectrum. Elision is where the first vowel is removed entirely, and prodelision is where the following vowel is removed entirely. Both are attested as having existed in Classical Latin, as they do in Italian, Spanish, etc. But modern languages like Italian don't use just elision or prodelision, but unmarked coalescence is much more common, called synizesis.
The most important thing for Latin is *not* to have disyllabic hiatus except very very rarely, and instead to ensure a monosyllabic solution. The old videos showed the extreme but acceptable version of elision or prodelision, which is easier than synizesis, a more sophisticated solution to creating a monosyllable.
Page 92 of Vox Graeca by Allen has a good schematic on this.
@@ScorpioMartianus I'm really interested in hearing more about this in a future video
Hi @@ScorpioMartianus this answer of yours got me very excited about that in-depth video you announced. Is it still in the works? Would really love to see it.
@@ScorpioMartianus Could you elaborate on that please? I'm not quite sure I understand what you're saying.
Gratias vobis! Valde placet!
Chiedo un momento di raccoglimento per la povera Syra. Le vogliamo bene comunque.
I still remember that Matella est in Horto.
thankyou for you job.
Thank you!
The nasally voice of Syra got me. 😂 Nice dramatization!
Alia bona lectio! Multas gratias! 😎😎
Finalmente!
I think I like your new recordings better!!!!
Hic liber pulcher est! Propter eum ego possum intellegere aliquid et scribere in Latīne.
Great as always, thanks! Also, sorry to bother, but it's not in order on your LLPSI list.
Thanks!
Even as someone who speaks Spanish, I can make an idea of what the text says.
If you read from chapter one, you can literally understand every single word progressively from just reading the book and nothing else (As a Spanish speaker). It's actually a pretty cool experience. This series of books gets you to an advanced level where you can the start to read historical latin texts without much Hassel (Just having to look a few words words an expressions up here and there)
@@sebastiangudino9377 Are you sure this series can take one so far?
@@moacirbarbosacastro8923 It is a guided experience, if you do the exercises and read all the material in order. You can START to read latin texts. You do have to invest quite some time to get there, but the experience is enjoyable! And once you are comfortable with actually latin texts you will learn quite quickly. You will notice tho, that the second book is already quite daunting at the beginning
Love it 😁
Agit non est tantum modus, sed etiam actiones?
I have just ended this chapter with the old’s video pronunciation 😭😭😭 it sound so much understandable
The pacing was definitely slower
@@carlnikolov fr just hearing at it again this one sounds a lot better actually
Ciao Luke,
Grazie per le sue video! Mi puo spiegare perchè la pronuncia Latina è cosi lontana di quella di tutte le lingue e dialetti dell'Italia di oggi?
Grazie
Ciao Julien, ti consiglio questo mio video
ua-cam.com/video/XeqTuPZv9as/v-deo.html
Innanzitutto, il latino ha cinque vocali (la E e la O erano più probabilmente vocali aperte), mentre l'italiano standard ne ha sette.
In secondo luogo, in Sardegna esistono alcuni dialetti che si avvicinano alla pronuncia del latino. Conservano la C e G dure, e, in misura maggiore, le vocali lunghe e brevi.
Nice!
❤️
:((( Iulia puella proba est
Et Marcus improbus puer est!
Probest!
Has pelliculas novas amo. Gratias vobis. Pelliculas veteres habeo atque has audio, sed hanc pelliculam servabo.
Quam belle textus recitatur.
Grātiās
Is the personal pronoun eius (gen) always an appropiate substitute for the possesive suus -a -um?
Hi. No, because suum etc it’s used only when it refers to the subject of the phrase; it is reflexive. Ejus and suum are not interchangeable
Kilius adest ! 🤣
Quis est femina, cuyo vocem hoc ergo audimus...
In dēscrīptiōne
Is this accent reconstructed?"
Yes ua-cam.com/video/XeqTuPZv9as/v-deo.html
Rosae popillias habentne? Veneris die in campo ruborum eram et observavi multas popillias.
Didicī alia vocābula cum macronīs: vīlla, līlium, nāsus, sōlus, ōstium (ōs est origō, nōnne?), ātrium, dēlectāre (dē simpliciter).
Atque dēsinentiās didicī novās: -ōs, -ās, -īs; -āte, -ēte, -ite, -īte
Where did the idea of pronouncing the "v" like an English "w" (double "u") come from? Villa= wheeler?
It is the correct pronunciation; see here:
ua-cam.com/video/hovf-UK-toQ/v-deo.html
En español es parecido v entre b y w
Domus mea in Ucrania est)