Some people might love the attitude v4s, but IMO there are some better options out there for the $$$. Such a shame because Fatshark used to be well above the rest. LINKS - Attitude v4 link - bit.ly/2ttEDu1 Aomway commander link - bit.ly/2qfmiCn Flykey - bit.ly/2nSG2au
Problem with the Commanders is that they have been really hard to get since your original review. I have been waiting for 4 months for my pre ordered set...
Yeah Aomway need to actual make some of those goggles and get them out to customers. They're listed on every FPV store but not actually in stock anywhere. When they turn up I might pick up a set and compare them to my DomV3 but Im happy with the current fat sharks I have
UAVfutures Stew can you do a review on the Eachine ev800 with TBS antenna cause I'm trying to get into this hobby and these goggles seem awesome so I was hoping you could.
Stu, good on you for being truthful and giving honest reviews warts and all. There's far too much selling out to sponsors on youtube and frankly even great channels become totally pointless when you can't trust their recommendations. Thanks for the work you put in bringing us your content, you play an important role keeping us up to date in a very fast changing hobby.
Mate thanks so much for this. means a lot to me. All my reviews are honest and I just want to give you guys the info so you can make your own decisions.
@cragonaut. Well said, I was thinking the same thing! How could the company be angry with you Stu? Especially when you give an honest review and you had to repair the new goggles, sponsored or not!
GoPro are doing the same. They lag behind in technology, such as 4K stabilisation and chopped image in a hi frame rate video, which products such as the Yi 4K + has achieved extremely well but much cheaper. FatShark and GoPro are sitting on top of their lazy dollars, which is why Intel are in panic mode too.
...same with Canon - pioneers in digital cameras, and now they keep recycling the hw and just keep internal functionality. Meanwhile, every cheapo phone can do 4k without moire artifacts, but not their 2000+$ cameras. The only reason being probably to not compete with their "real cameras". Good thing that we have these chinese guys at least copying+improving stuff...
Fatshark have been market leaders for so long it seems they may have become somewhat complacent in there attitude towards peoples preferences. As you say Stu there are a lot of people comming into the hobby and looking to get into FPV as its definately the most exciting aspect of it. I have only recently ventured into this side of things and started with the original box style V2's (crap) as grumpy trev would say. So now i have ordered the Aomways mostely due to your review but also because once you have them apart from adding an aditional polarized antenna you have the complete package. Plus for me as i am still learning the ability to hook up to my favourite sim through the HDMI is a tremendous bonus. As you say i think Fatshark need to take a step back and have a good hard look at what pilots actualy want instead of just churning out stuff that they believe people will buy because it has there name on it. great honest review stu, love the channel. :)
Ahhh the mythical Aomway Commander... do they really exist? Are they like Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster? Did Stu just paint a fatshark gray and call it an Aomway? Inquiring minds want to know...
Get the Skyzones, pretty much exactly the same except the Aomways have the fan, but the Skyzones have better firmware/GUI (That's what my mate who owns Aomways says. He used my Skyzone for a month or two before he bought his Aomways).
Thanks for the honest review stu, I own a pair of these and noticed bad signal like you experienced during the review and just though maybe it was maybe a faulty Antenna, but seeing this least I can save some money from troubleshooting and get a True D 3.5 module :). Keep up the work with the videos really enjoy them and the time/effort you put into them especially with having a little one recently know it's hard work alone without having to keep up the content on your channel :)
Even the 1800mah 2s they provide with the Dom V3s suck, they should supply the 18650 enclosure and 2 x 18650 cells for the amount we spend on these things.
DavyBoy It's charging the 18650s they don't want to be responsible for. I know they don't provide a charger for their lipos either but at least they can be charged on a regular charger.
Jesse Peacock then they should just supply the enclosure, their lipos puff and don't hold charge for very long after a few months use, I've even had mine saying I had 2 bars left and when I stuck my next pack in I'd get about 1 minute into the pack and my goggles would beep once and the screens go black, causing me to have to disarm from quite a height, this has happened on at least 4 occasions now. I'm either going to make my own18650 packs or buy their enclosure and some cells.
DavyBoy Preaching to the choir DavyBoy. I have no less than 3 fatshark batteries sitting puffy in a drawer and have made some Frankenstein 18650 packs with the led indicator. I wish they made the 18650 case with a proper balance lead so we could charge in the case. If you have the ability to charge 18650s definitely use the enclosure. It could be worse they could have given us a AA battery enclosure like comes with the Frsky Q7.
Jesse Peacock lol, I only have the one pack for my goggles as I've only been flying for about 5 months or so, isn't there a mod that can be done to their enclosure so that you can charge the 18650s in there, I'm sure I watched a video where the guy modded his case, I can't remember what channel it was though.
Thanks again for your great reviews Stew. On your recommendation I bought the Aomway commander. These are my first google and I think they are awesome! I would certainly recommend them to any first time fpv'er. Cheers!
My view is that if the ribbon cable was disconnected when you got these it was probably due to shipping damage and this could have resulted in damage to other components. I think you should have sent these goggles back for inspection/repair before doing a full blown review. I often imagine postal guys playing warehouse soccer with our parcels, lol! Cheers.
$350 is the 'good value' model? Lol, just think about what you could actually get for $350. You could get a diversity receiver for only $58! To compare it to things outside of FPV, you could get (for $20 more), a 28" 4k adaptive refresh rate computer monitor. And we're paying $300 for (what seems like) two camcorder viewfinders with two lenses?
I wonder what they cost to produce... A couple of LCDs, plastic case, faceplate, DVR, various ports. They could be a lot less, but that wouldn't be retail!
Hey Stu. Thanks heaps for posting all of the great videos. I have just placed an order for the Aomway goggles. Congrats on reaching your 100,000 subscribers as well. I’m sure you must be ecstatic. Keep up the awesome work and I’ll definitely be watching all your new videos 🤘🏼
UAVfutures it's good to see you're still at it. I have hobby ADD, and tend to lose interest in things typically 6 weeks or so. Sometimes I lose interest during a long research phase...before I even make it to a purchase. I'm in the first step on the road to recovery, which is recognizing I have a problem. Actually I don't know if there is a cure for me, since there are no 12 step programs for Hobby ADD. I need help. Back to woodworking vids. :p
Wow, Stu! I just glanced at your subscribers button. 70k?!? The first UAVFutures video I saw was your giveaway to celebrate 10k subscribers. Pushing up to that Silver Play Button!! Congrats and keep it up!
Fat Shark has now issued a voluntary recall to fix some V4 video filtering problems. Do yourself a favour and contact FS support to have these repaired. Then, test again and do everyone a favour. Thanks and cheers.
Hey Stew...First off...Congratulations on the kid! I have a request...Could you do a best of in x price range video for goggles/faceboxes? So for example...Under $100 Under $250, Under $350 and Under $500, and then talk about which you would choose overall? Thank you for all that you do, and thanks in advance even if you don't do this.
Does Armattan sell that strap anywhere else besides on their site? Is there something similar out there? I would love to see a 3 point head strap that has that same padding as the Armattan head strap. Thanks Stu for the review!
One thing I did on my predators is the IPD is slightly off by like 1mm and the weight of the goggles made them droop down too much so one eye was always blurred so after weeks of trying foam etc I found the best and simplest fix was to put double sided tape in the nose groove so my nose took the weight of the goggles like glasses do, it took me ages to notice this was the issue.
The ribbon cable problem has happened to me as well with a pair of Attitude V3s.. It turns out that they come loose during transportation in case the package is bumped etc, but it is no excuse. The ribbon cable connector on the V3 is even easier to come loose.
Stu, you did right to open it. That's the DIY spirit!! And most important >>> Now we know there is not gold inside fatshark goggles that justify the price. It is one big 4in² red board, a lot of resistors surrounded by plastic with nothing special on it. Makers must been very happy selling them :/
Nice review mate. I think Josh Bardwell will be doing a direct comparison of the Aomway and these goggles soon. We'll see what his outcome is then Cheers
I'd like to try to the Aomway Commander to compare w/my FS Dominator HD V3 + LaForge Diversity. Based on price, features, and positive Commander reviews such as yours, I'm recommending a hard look at the Commander for a full featured goggle purchase.
I was going to buy the fat shark dominator HD then I realized the skyzone have duel diversity already and the same 480p screens..... with a spironet and aomway it's half the price of my mates FShd and better because of the 16/9 runcam split. Thx Stu great channel love your work
I fly with Skyzones and I feel like they are worthy of being added to this comparison but I would pick the commanders of the three you were suggesting.
My dom v3's were DOA. No image at all just a black screen. I sent them back to where I bought them and they found a display ribbon had come loose. Could be a similar problem with the one white screen.
great video as always stu, just wished you put in also the skyzone goggles in the comparison, I won't buy fatshark so i'm deciding between skyzone or aomway, any suggestion since you tried both?
You are the first person who acknowledged that Fat Shark dropped the ball. Finally! They stopped innovating ages ago. I know designing and manufacturing of a new product is difficult, but come on. I really hope Aomway will keep releasing new things!
I'm spewing I bought the x220 before knowing about the x220s, it's like they watched all the reviews on the x220 and just fixed it accordingly. OSD, 30a ESCs, a new ccd camera (wait for reviews on that one), a pigtail from the vtx to the antenna so no more broken VTX (I had to do this manually after breaking my vtx), pagoda antenna, soft mounted motors, bigger motors, 4s battery... I seriously can't see a downside, I'm sure Stu will cover it :)
Heavier, 4 in one ESC, and not pure carbon fiber, for more money. I´m not saying it is a bad buy, or a bad copter for the money, but I doné see it as such an easy pick.
I'm still rockin my trusty DomV2's with a LaForge V2. I've tried the HD2/3's and couldn't get on with them.. blurry edges. All other brands seem to be 16:9, which isn't for me. It's kinda furstrating that in three years, which in quad world is basically forever, there hasn't been anything I'd call a worthy upgrade :/ and yes that battery is almost insulting, WTF FS?
Haha, we have the Avegant Glyphs...sweet piece of tech by the way, Took the Dominator V3 HD's back, 600$ by the time you buy the receiver unit, honestly an obscene amount of money for what you actually get. I really think they have really fallen off of inovation the last two years. I totally agree that they will be overtaken by other companies in the next 5 years. We have the Quanum Cyclopes 2's, great entry level box goggle and honestly has to be one of the best for under 100 dollars. We also have the Skyzone 02S's which beat the Fatshark on every front, especially when it comes to image and they are almost half the money. A goggle should never loose contrast like the Fatsharks did. The ground would literally disappear. The 02S"s fed the same cams and settings and low and behold no ground black out. I need a display that will work with a broad range of cams. Micro's to runcam eagles, thank god we bought them from Amazon so we could take them back immediately with no fuss. We basically gave our Fatshark passports away as it had the picture of a potato....I would not even sell those as I would be washed with waves of guilt...lol I do agree that we need even more options out there. I mean this industry is big money and we need more innovators in the market. I also cant wait for more digital HD solutions to show up. I mean the only choice I have now is to wait for Connex Pro Sight V2 to come out and that is a sad place to be..... I want an HD feed in my life sooo bad.
Avant quads have had like 3-4 frames come out since your leggero video, come on stu we need these reviews...that new 3" that weighs 27 grams looks amazing
I was recently in the market for a second pair of googles. I really wanted the Aomways but they are never in stock and after being on a 3 different waiting list. I finally gave up up and just got another pair of fatsharks. And I think that's why fatshark remains dominate in this market despite them having descent competitors out there. Most of the time they are on pre-order are under restock and the stay that way for months at a time. Where as I can drive to any of my local RC shops and they have fatsharks just sitting on the shelf as whale as being very easy to find online.
I've had the choise , I've chosed Attitude . At this moment there is special True-D receiver, that fits attitudes. Aomways got some negative feedback for the QC , they are quite often out of stock. Also today banggood ships them with 18650 case, which is great.
Great review dude...always appreciate when people tell it how it 'actually' is!! Having said that I really like my HD V3's but just wondering...if you don't like the 1800mAh LiPo that comes with...what are the alternatives? Cheers
Fatshark in these only gives you a 1000mah. I like these ones for $7 and over twice as big 2200mah bit.ly/2sAtXtw it really shows you how much fatshark is just ripping us off with the battery when this is $7
Hey Stu! Love the channel. You got me into the hobby and I am waiting for my first components to arrive to build my first quad! I was curious with the low amount of MaH batteries out there(like 1500MaH) why aren't people setting up multiple 18650 batteries and soldering them together to make a more powerful battery? They would still be light weight and a single 18650 can hold 2x the charge of most quad batteries that exist on the market. Again, I am completely new so this may be a stupid question but I figured I would ask!
Love my commanders but my little joystick buttons have come off randomly on the goggles. Have you seen this happen as well or know where to find replacement?
I love my dom v3s ... has anything came out to compete with the dom v3s yet .. I spent 500.00 usd to get my module and cameras right for the 16:9 ..but I do love them
Definitely the Commanders. I own a pair and love them. The are not "Vaporware" you just need to wait it out and the goggles will get shipped. It took about 2.5 months to get mine
Stew how's it going buddy.. Long time subscriber from Perth, like your content.. Racing quads fpv is something I'm looking forward to getting into soon.. Just wondering though.. Do you fly anything other than race quads? Cheers Dave
Fantastic review! I've been flying with Headplays for 2 years. I'm ready for something less bulky. I struggle with choosing between Aomway or Skyzone. Not sure the Skyzone price is justifiable compared to Aomways. cheers!
If only the commanders had a 4:3 option. I have tried and just can't seem to adjust to 16:9, my eyes wander and I crash. However that size/profile with a DVR and the fact that it comes with a fan, battery, receiver, and has aftermarket diversity options makes it well worth the price in my opinion. Especially when compared to prices of other Fatshark goggles with said options. I feel the name matters when it comes to FPV as well. I just don't feel the competition has been in the game long enough to truly compare to the quality and longevity of Fatshark products. Hell, my Eachine VRD2s blew the reception, and video quality of my Teleporters out of the water, but after about 4 months they started freezing and frame lagging. The Teleporters had been used and abused for years before being passed down to me and are still running like a boss with tons of life left. Total comfort is only a bonus as well, no one set of goggles is going to be perfectly comfortable for everyone. And yes, ALL Fatshark batteries are crap. I use a no name 2s 1200mah with a jst/barrel adapter. Weighs less and lasts significantly longer as well for only being a 200mah difference. Not to mention I got 4 of them with chargers for $40 on amazon.
What vtx were you using on the copter? I'm running a Tramp HV and my picture quality on my Attitude v4s is crappy just like yours - full of white flashes. Might be a sync issue?
Just repaired my old crappy lowres fatshark which were waiting for your video for about 2 years. Everywhere I read that if on LCD is white it is an lcd-driver failure. I contacted fatshark via email and had a conversation about that (they usually respond in 24hours) but all was useless and they suggest me to send it to the authorized service for repair. Btw which batteries would you suggest with same plug for Fatshark googles? Thanks a lot for your videos!
If you fly quads then you should have more than enough batteries. By including a battery it can change the shipping method to most countries, so I would have to pay $25 DHL shipping if the product has a battery.
I hait Fatshark. Me and my Friends were into FPV from the get go, where people like us made their own headtracking devices, and then fatshark came out, first not just for fpv but later the Guy who owns Fatshark could not believe his luck!! He got very rich because the Only reliable googles out there were the Fatshark, everything else were BS!, Because of that Fatshark set not the standards, but fix the PRICES so that anyone coming into google business had to sell something which cost 50-100 dollars for 400-800 and sometimes even more!!!? This is DOUBLE STANDARD from Fatshark, to set the Prices so high that it nearly made it next to impossible for many people to own a good par of googles
My new HD3s come with similar problem but it was the ribbon cable between receiver module and main module that was loose.. Was an easy fix to do but come on fatshark.
The battery is let down... but there is the same plastic case just for two Li-ion bats ( 18650 Li-ion Headset Battery Case ) which is 10 times better , you can put in 2x 2500mAh and it work fine. I still have my old fatshark Dominator V2 since 2014 ( I bought diversity module and the fan attachment ) and I'm happy with them now, but when they break I'll go for Aomway
Waiting for my Aomways to ship but isn't it kinda wrong to say they support 4:3? I mean they've got 16:9 ress lens in them so really the only thing they can do is crop the image but you'd still be losing the height surely
I do imagine you'd be losing the extra height that 4:3 goggles can offer. For me, and I think many new pilots coming into the hobby, 16:9 is going to make more sense because widescreen displays are the norm now. I've always worked in 16:9 for video projects, it's what online players are running and what monitors are being sold with; however, FPV is different, so I would be curious to mess with some more 16:9 and 4:3 goggles to really discover if the height difference will affect my racing as my skills progress. I'm interested to see where 4:3 vs. 16:9 goes. - Hamish
I've only ever used 16:9 goggles myself, I've heard from few people they wouldn't use anything other then 4:3 for racing, I guess due to seeing more of the gate and ground so you can judge it better but I sorta do wonder if they're using it as a way to justify the $500 HD3 purchase
I'll try and get more info about it! I reckon I'd prefer 16:9 with a wider lens. Plus, my camera (the one I was flying on in the video) is 4:3, so I guess I'd get that same height only stretched. I do not notice the stretch.
Guys if you want some really awesome designs of them fabric straps for your goggles look up scuba diving mask straps, from what I can tell they are almost identical and there is hundreds of awesome designs out there you can bling up with. If you want you can even just get a padded strap cover and put it over your current strap!!
fatshark have been a disappointment for me since attitude v3's. expensive, modules are junk, adjustability is limited and expensive. the only thing others havent done is modules. that you could get 2.4 and other modules is the only redeeming feature of them.. cheers and thanks stu.
this has SEALED the deal for me. I currently have the teleporters and wanted to upgrade but not go all the way to an hdv4 or something like that and the commanders look like the best choice for me especially for the price!
I have Dom HD V2 with LaForge diversity and Attitude V4's. I prefer the Attitudes, the reception is better, the DVR is great, I put an 18650 8amp pack on and they last for days. I have never flown so far on 25mW flicker free. I would recommend them.
just wondering if anyone could help me! I have just ordered a wizard X220 and was wondering if a 1300Mah battery will work with it? I also order one of those 'rubish' chargers and a voltage bleeper alarm , I'm hoping they should be good to get me started.
Drone Hero's thanks. I am new to racing quads and it's my first racer, I'm familiar with toy drones and have flown the a lot so I'm familiar with the controls, but wanted to try out a fpv racer. so I ordered the Wizard x220 with a flysky reciver, an echine 00-7 fpv goggles with a triamph antenna. it comes with a 3s 1500mah. I also ordered a new spare battery which is a 1300mah 3s. ( the Wizard hasn't arrived yet)
I don't know why any goggles need a LIPO. Wouldn't a Lithium Ion be lighter, provide adequate current, and leave all the charging and storage headaches behind?
I´ve got both, the commander and the atti v4. I wanted to get my first fpv googles. I decide to keep the v4. I had and awful post service with the commanders, also since they do not have a removable module, if you want to improve (as this hobby has been doing in the last two years) the module can be easly swap. Also with ft, you have way more info about problems than the commander.
The Commander Goggles do have a 4:3 version. Is this just a chopped image? How does the field of view in this mode compare to fatsharks? Questions over questions. For such a huge investment this is a minefield :D
I really wanted to get the commanders, but they are just not available after a couple weeks I just wanted to fly so I got the fatsharks v4 and Im happy with them so far for the park flying I do...
Some people might love the attitude v4s, but IMO there are some better options out there for the $$$. Such a shame because Fatshark used to be well above the rest. LINKS - Attitude v4 link - bit.ly/2ttEDu1
Aomway commander link - bit.ly/2qfmiCn
Flykey - bit.ly/2nSG2au
Problem with the Commanders is that they have been really hard to get since your original review. I have been waiting for 4 months for my pre ordered set...
Indeed, Stu - we need some really bashing review for the Commander googles! :-)
Yeah Aomway need to actual make some of those goggles and get them out to customers. They're listed on every FPV store but not actually in stock anywhere. When they turn up I might pick up a set and compare them to my DomV3 but Im happy with the current fat sharks I have
UAVfutures 😆 i dont hate fat sharks ...... to mutch 😆 yust dissapoited? 😆
UAVfutures Stew can you do a review on the Eachine ev800 with TBS antenna cause I'm trying to get into this hobby and these goggles seem awesome so I was hoping you could.
Stu, good on you for being truthful and giving honest reviews warts and all. There's far too much selling out to sponsors on youtube and frankly even great channels become totally pointless when you can't trust their recommendations. Thanks for the work you put in bringing us your content, you play an important role keeping us up to date in a very fast changing hobby.
Mate thanks so much for this. means a lot to me. All my reviews are honest and I just want to give you guys the info so you can make your own decisions.
@cragonaut. Well said, I was thinking the same thing! How could the company be angry with you Stu? Especially when you give an honest review and you had to repair the new goggles, sponsored or not!
GoPro are doing the same. They lag behind in technology, such as 4K stabilisation and chopped image in a hi frame rate video, which products such as the Yi 4K + has achieved extremely well but much cheaper. FatShark and GoPro are sitting on top of their lazy dollars, which is why Intel are in panic mode too.
...same with Canon - pioneers in digital cameras, and now they keep recycling the hw and just keep internal functionality. Meanwhile, every cheapo phone can do 4k without moire artifacts, but not their 2000+$ cameras. The only reason being probably to not compete with their "real cameras". Good thing that we have these chinese guys at least copying+improving stuff...
andree182 ikr. Sony is raping Canon and Nikon right now
Nicholas Heidl Futaba too :P
I would buy a Sony SLR camera if I wasn't so invested in canon lenses. Canon needs to step up their game.
mPky1 They, including Intel have been sitting on their arses whilst competition has caught up and in most cases caught up.
legend has it that 'aomway' is pronounced "I'm on me way"
Fatshark have been market leaders for so long it seems they may have become somewhat complacent in there attitude towards peoples preferences. As you say Stu there are a lot of people comming into the hobby and looking to get into FPV as its definately the most exciting aspect of it. I have only recently ventured into this side of things and started with the original box style V2's (crap) as grumpy trev would say. So now i have ordered the Aomways mostely due to your review but also because once you have them apart from adding an aditional polarized antenna you have the complete package. Plus for me as i am still learning the ability to hook up to my favourite sim through the HDMI is a tremendous bonus. As you say i think Fatshark need to take a step back and have a good hard look at what pilots actualy want instead of just churning out stuff that they believe people will buy because it has there name on it. great honest review stu, love the channel. :)
I'm an electronics tech so I'm fully qualified to void warranties
Ahhh the mythical Aomway Commander... do they really exist? Are they like Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster? Did Stu just paint a fatshark gray and call it an Aomway? Inquiring minds want to know...
Mark Scott lol best comment i've read today
Get the Skyzones, pretty much exactly the same except the Aomways have the fan, but the Skyzones have better firmware/GUI (That's what my mate who owns Aomways says. He used my Skyzone for a month or two before he bought his Aomways).
jtan163 do sky zones have dvr and hdmi now?
God damn I've refreshed banggood every day... Baaaaaaaaaaaaaang goooooooood. Stupid name.
Yes they do, I got a pair of Skyzone 02s last week...
Thanks for the honest review stu, I own a pair of these and noticed bad signal like you experienced during the review and just though maybe it was maybe a faulty Antenna, but seeing this least I can save some money from troubleshooting and get a True D 3.5 module :).
Keep up the work with the videos really enjoy them and the time/effort you put into them especially with having a little one recently know it's hard work alone without having to keep up the content on your channel :)
Even the 1800mah 2s they provide with the Dom V3s suck, they should supply the 18650 enclosure and 2 x 18650 cells for the amount we spend on these things.
yes, I agree
DavyBoy It's charging the 18650s they don't want to be responsible for. I know they don't provide a charger for their lipos either but at least they can be charged on a regular charger.
Jesse Peacock then they should just supply the enclosure, their lipos puff and don't hold charge for very long after a few months use, I've even had mine saying I had 2 bars left and when I stuck my next pack in I'd get about 1 minute into the pack and my goggles would beep once and the screens go black, causing me to have to disarm from quite a height, this has happened on at least 4 occasions now.
I'm either going to make my own18650 packs or buy their enclosure and some cells.
DavyBoy Preaching to the choir DavyBoy. I have no less than 3 fatshark batteries sitting puffy in a drawer and have made some Frankenstein 18650 packs with the led indicator. I wish they made the 18650 case with a proper balance lead so we could charge in the case. If you have the ability to charge 18650s definitely use the enclosure. It could be worse they could have given us a AA battery enclosure like comes with the Frsky Q7.
Jesse Peacock lol, I only have the one pack for my goggles as I've only been flying for about 5 months or so, isn't there a mod that can be done to their enclosure so that you can charge the 18650s in there, I'm sure I watched a video where the guy modded his case, I can't remember what channel it was though.
Thanks again for your great reviews Stew. On your recommendation I bought the Aomway commander. These are my first google and I think they are awesome! I would certainly recommend them to any first time fpv'er. Cheers!
My view is that if the ribbon cable was disconnected when you got these it was probably due to shipping damage and this could have resulted in damage to other components. I think you should have sent these goggles back for inspection/repair before doing a full blown review. I often imagine postal guys playing warehouse soccer with our parcels, lol! Cheers.
$350 is the 'good value' model? Lol, just think about what you could actually get for $350. You could get a diversity receiver for only $58!
To compare it to things outside of FPV, you could get (for $20 more), a 28" 4k adaptive refresh rate computer monitor.
And we're paying $300 for (what seems like) two camcorder viewfinders with two lenses?
LazerLord10 or a good cpu for the same or a little less
I wonder what they cost to produce... A couple of LCDs, plastic case, faceplate, DVR, various ports. They could be a lot less, but that wouldn't be retail!
Hey Stu. Thanks heaps for posting all of the great videos. I have just placed an order for the Aomway goggles. Congrats on reaching your 100,000 subscribers as well. I’m sure you must be ecstatic. Keep up the awesome work and I’ll definitely be watching all your new videos 🤘🏼
UAVfutures it's good to see you're still at it. I have hobby ADD, and tend to lose interest in things typically 6 weeks or so. Sometimes I lose interest during a long research phase...before I even make it to a purchase. I'm in the first step on the road to recovery, which is recognizing I have a problem. Actually I don't know if there is a cure for me, since there are no 12 step programs for Hobby ADD. I need help. Back to woodworking vids. :p
That Dude There I have the same thing my dude. Only thing that I’ve been doing the longest is rc and I’ve only been doing it since May
Love the channel Stu watching from the UK and bought the Wizard kit to get into the drones because of you. Keep up the great work :-)
Wow, Stu! I just glanced at your subscribers button. 70k?!? The first UAVFutures video I saw was your giveaway to celebrate 10k subscribers. Pushing up to that Silver Play Button!! Congrats and keep it up!
thanks for being with me since the 10k. seems crazy we are at 70k
*Seriously now. Where is the Karearea Talon flight vid???*
3R45U5 Right?!
Seriously considering those Commanders. loving the reviews as ever Stu!
Great review Stu! As always!
Greetings from South Korea~
Fat Shark has now issued a voluntary recall to fix some V4 video filtering problems. Do yourself a favour and contact FS support to have these repaired. Then, test again and do everyone a favour. Thanks and cheers.
Stu, thanks! this review and comparison is what I was waiting for!
Hey Stew...First off...Congratulations on the kid!
I have a request...Could you do a best of in x price range video for goggles/faceboxes? So for example...Under $100 Under $250, Under $350 and Under $500, and then talk about which you would choose overall?
Thank you for all that you do, and thanks in advance even if you don't do this.
Does Armattan sell that strap anywhere else besides on their site? Is there something similar out there? I would love to see a 3 point head strap that has that same padding as the Armattan head strap. Thanks Stu for the review!
One thing I did on my predators is the IPD is slightly off by like 1mm and the weight of the goggles made them droop down too much so one eye was always blurred so after weeks of trying foam etc I found the best and simplest fix was to put double sided tape in the nose groove so my nose took the weight of the goggles like glasses do, it took me ages to notice this was the issue.
The ribbon cable problem has happened to me as well with a pair of Attitude V3s.. It turns out that they come loose during transportation in case the package is bumped etc, but it is no excuse.
The ribbon cable connector on the V3 is even easier to come loose.
Stu, you did right to open it. That's the DIY spirit!! And most important >>> Now we know there is not gold inside fatshark goggles that justify the price. It is one big 4in² red board, a lot of resistors surrounded by plastic with nothing special on it. Makers must been very happy selling them :/
Great review. Thank you for uploading. I will likely end up with the AOMWAY.
Nice review mate. I think Josh Bardwell will be doing a direct comparison of the Aomway and these goggles soon. We'll see what his outcome is then
Cheers
I'd like to try to the Aomway Commander to compare w/my FS Dominator HD V3 + LaForge Diversity. Based on price, features, and positive Commander reviews such as yours, I'm recommending a hard look at the Commander for a full featured goggle purchase.
Thanks for the review Stu. Really appreciate it. Wish I could find somewhere that had stock of the Aomways, I can't find anyone with stock..
I was going to buy the fat shark dominator HD then I realized the skyzone have duel diversity already and the same 480p screens..... with a spironet and aomway it's half the price of my mates FShd and better because of the 16/9 runcam split. Thx Stu great channel love your work
that armattan strap is a must have. I don't say that lightly, it makes the goggles waaaay way more comfortable.
I fly with Skyzones and I feel like they are worthy of being added to this comparison but I would pick the commanders of the three you were suggesting.
My dom v3's were DOA. No image at all just a black screen. I sent them back to where I bought them and they found a display ribbon had come loose. Could be a similar problem with the one white screen.
great video as always stu, just wished you put in also the skyzone goggles in the comparison, I won't buy fatshark so i'm deciding between skyzone or aomway, any suggestion since you tried both?
You are the first person who acknowledged that Fat Shark dropped the ball. Finally! They stopped innovating ages ago. I know designing and manufacturing of a new product is difficult, but come on. I really hope Aomway will keep releasing new things!
is there a reason you bent the antenna and didn't use the included 90 degree angled adapter?
C. Lyons every connector you put in you Rx/Tx creates loss. like 1/2 a dB each. -3dB is half power....
Hey Stu the Eachine Wizard x220S is out!
It whould be awesome if you could review it :-)
and 5s
I'm spewing I bought the x220 before knowing about the x220s, it's like they watched all the reviews on the x220 and just fixed it accordingly.
OSD, 30a ESCs, a new ccd camera (wait for reviews on that one), a pigtail from the vtx to the antenna so no more broken VTX (I had to do this manually after breaking my vtx), pagoda antenna, soft mounted motors, bigger motors, 4s battery...
I seriously can't see a downside, I'm sure Stu will cover it :)
Heavier, 4 in one ESC, and not pure carbon fiber, for more money. I´m not saying it is a bad buy, or a bad copter for the money, but I doné see it as such an easy pick.
Not full carbon so theres tgat
I'm still rockin my trusty DomV2's with a LaForge V2. I've tried the HD2/3's and couldn't get on with them.. blurry edges. All other brands seem to be 16:9, which isn't for me. It's kinda furstrating that in three years, which in quad world is basically forever, there hasn't been anything I'd call a worthy upgrade :/ and yes that battery is almost insulting, WTF FS?
Haha, we have the Avegant Glyphs...sweet piece of tech by the way, Took the Dominator V3 HD's back, 600$ by the time you buy the receiver unit, honestly an obscene amount of money for what you actually get. I really think they have really fallen off of inovation the last two years. I totally agree that they will be overtaken by other companies in the next 5 years. We have the Quanum Cyclopes 2's, great entry level box goggle and honestly has to be one of the best for under 100 dollars. We also have the Skyzone 02S's which beat the Fatshark on every front, especially when it comes to image and they are almost half the money. A goggle should never loose contrast like the Fatsharks did. The ground would literally disappear. The 02S"s fed the same cams and settings and low and behold no ground black out. I need a display that will work with a broad range of cams. Micro's to runcam eagles, thank god we bought them from Amazon so we could take them back immediately with no fuss. We basically gave our Fatshark passports away as it had the picture of a potato....I would not even sell those as I would be washed with waves of guilt...lol I do agree that we need even more options out there. I mean this industry is big money and we need more innovators in the market. I also cant wait for more digital HD solutions to show up. I mean the only choice I have now is to wait for Connex Pro Sight V2 to come out and that is a sad place to be..... I want an HD feed in my life sooo bad.
Thanks Stew! I'm going to get the HD3's with the GE FPV module!
Avant quads have had like 3-4 frames come out since your leggero video, come on stu we need these reviews...that new 3" that weighs 27 grams looks amazing
I had a loose ribbon cable for my Hiee goggles too from the ax in/out board to the main board.
Your close to 100k stu keep up the videos 👍
I really want to fly with u stew I got my first drone and I see u guys r at the Barwon river I hope to see ya there soon ;) before I crash it ahahaha
I was recently in the market for a second pair of googles. I really wanted the Aomways but they are never in stock and after being on a 3 different waiting list. I finally gave up up and just got another pair of fatsharks. And I think that's why fatshark remains dominate in this market despite them having descent competitors out there. Most of the time they are on pre-order are under restock and the stay that way for months at a time. Where as I can drive to any of my local RC shops and they have fatsharks just sitting on the shelf as whale as being very easy to find online.
love your honesty and fair analysis! 👍👍
Spent $100 for some refurbished attitude v2's; couldn't be happier.
I've had the choise , I've chosed Attitude . At this moment there is special True-D receiver, that fits attitudes. Aomways got some negative feedback for the QC , they are quite often out of stock. Also today banggood ships them with 18650 case, which is great.
Great review dude...always appreciate when people tell it how it 'actually' is!! Having said that I really like my HD V3's but just wondering...if you don't like the 1800mAh LiPo that comes with...what are the alternatives? Cheers
Fatshark in these only gives you a 1000mah. I like these ones for $7 and over twice as big 2200mah bit.ly/2sAtXtw it really shows you how much fatshark is just ripping us off with the battery when this is $7
Great video!
Is it possible to use the Aomways with DJI Spark?
Nice review stew, im happy with my eachine goggles 2, picture is pretty sweet🤙🏼
Hey Stu! Love the channel. You got me into the hobby and I am waiting for my first components to arrive to build my first quad! I was curious with the low amount of MaH batteries out there(like 1500MaH) why aren't people setting up multiple 18650 batteries and soldering them together to make a more powerful battery? They would still be light weight and a single 18650 can hold 2x the charge of most quad batteries that exist on the market.
Again, I am completely new so this may be a stupid question but I figured I would ask!
Love my commanders but my little joystick buttons have come off randomly on the goggles. Have you seen this happen as well or know where to find replacement?
I love my dom v3s ... has anything came out to compete with the dom v3s yet .. I spent 500.00 usd to get my module and cameras right for the 16:9 ..but I do love them
Definitely the Commanders. I own a pair and love them. The are not "Vaporware" you just need to wait it out and the goggles will get shipped. It took about 2.5 months to get mine
can you get them in lhcp or yet its another antenna to put on the bench ,not every one runs right hand
Hey stew, could you recommend a replacement foam for the commanders that is better then the original
Stew how's it going buddy.. Long time subscriber from Perth, like your content.. Racing quads fpv is something I'm looking forward to getting into soon.. Just wondering though.. Do you fly anything other than race quads? Cheers Dave
not really but I want to try a wing one day
Fantastic review! I've been flying with Headplays for 2 years. I'm ready for something less bulky. I struggle with choosing between Aomway or Skyzone. Not sure the Skyzone price is justifiable compared to Aomways. cheers!
Greg Patterson Skyzone is 345 at banggood now
Ohhhh....yes. Both the Skyzone and Aomway are $459 Canadian. That's not too bad at all.
Why no mention of the Skyzones? They have to be up there with the Aomways.
'Reviewer's curse' is probably more often the curse that you get a product that works, and everyone else gets one that doesn't.
If only the commanders had a 4:3 option. I have tried and just can't seem to adjust to 16:9, my eyes wander and I crash. However that size/profile with a DVR and the fact that it comes with a fan, battery, receiver, and has aftermarket diversity options makes it well worth the price in my opinion. Especially when compared to prices of other Fatshark goggles with said options. I feel the name matters when it comes to FPV as well. I just don't feel the competition has been in the game long enough to truly compare to the quality and longevity of Fatshark products. Hell, my Eachine VRD2s blew the reception, and video quality of my Teleporters out of the water, but after about 4 months they started freezing and frame lagging. The Teleporters had been used and abused for years before being passed down to me and are still running like a boss with tons of life left. Total comfort is only a bonus as well, no one set of goggles is going to be perfectly comfortable for everyone. And yes, ALL Fatshark batteries are crap. I use a no name 2s 1200mah with a jst/barrel adapter. Weighs less and lasts significantly longer as well for only being a 200mah difference. Not to mention I got 4 of them with chargers for $40 on amazon.
Hi Stu
There is a firmware update for the Aomway commander goggles
Have you done this and if so What does this fix if anything at all
Cheers
What antennas can make the V4 have better reception? Or module?
What vtx were you using on the copter? I'm running a Tramp HV and my picture quality on my Attitude v4s is crappy just like yours - full of white flashes. Might be a sync issue?
I rigged a top strap on my dominators and it really works great. stops that google droop.
and I like the charge indicator on the battery.
Just repaired my old crappy lowres fatshark which were waiting for your video for about 2 years. Everywhere I read that if on LCD is white it is an lcd-driver failure. I contacted fatshark via email and had a conversation about that (they usually respond in 24hours) but all was useless and they suggest me to send it to the authorized service for repair.
Btw which batteries would you suggest with same plug for Fatshark googles?
Thanks a lot for your videos!
Hi, what antennas do you use at your Aomway commanders? Greetings Alex
I'm going for the aomway, one thing I should mention. The battery that comes with the fatsharks is better than no battery with the aomways ;)
If you fly quads then you should have more than enough batteries.
By including a battery it can change the shipping method to most countries, so I would have to pay $25 DHL shipping if the product has a battery.
the Aomways have a great battery lead that connects to any 2, 3 or 4s battery balance lead.
I hait Fatshark. Me and my Friends were into FPV from the get go, where people like us made their own headtracking devices, and then fatshark came out, first not just for fpv but later the Guy who owns Fatshark could not believe his luck!! He got very rich because the Only reliable googles out there were the Fatshark, everything else were BS!, Because of that Fatshark set not the standards, but fix the PRICES so that anyone coming into google business had to sell something which cost 50-100 dollars for 400-800 and sometimes even more!!!? This is DOUBLE STANDARD from Fatshark, to set the Prices so high that it nearly made it next to impossible for many people to own a good par of googles
For the money and quality. Your opinion is gold. Aomway Comander.
How is the lag on the DVR for the amways.
My new HD3s come with similar problem but it was the ribbon cable between receiver module and main module that was loose.. Was an easy fix to do but come on fatshark.
The battery is let down... but there is the same plastic case just for two Li-ion bats ( 18650 Li-ion Headset Battery Case ) which is 10 times better , you can put in 2x 2500mAh and it work fine. I still have my old fatshark Dominator V2 since 2014 ( I bought diversity module and the fan attachment ) and I'm happy with them now, but when they break I'll go for Aomway
Waiting for my Aomways to ship but isn't it kinda wrong to say they support 4:3? I mean they've got 16:9 ress lens in them so really the only thing they can do is crop the image but you'd still be losing the height surely
I do imagine you'd be losing the extra height that 4:3 goggles can offer. For me, and I think many new pilots coming into the hobby, 16:9 is going to make more sense because widescreen displays are the norm now. I've always worked in 16:9 for video projects, it's what online players are running and what monitors are being sold with; however, FPV is different, so I would be curious to mess with some more 16:9 and 4:3 goggles to really discover if the height difference will affect my racing as my skills progress. I'm interested to see where 4:3 vs. 16:9 goes.
- Hamish
I've only ever used 16:9 goggles myself, I've heard from few people they wouldn't use anything other then 4:3 for racing, I guess due to seeing more of the gate and ground so you can judge it better but I sorta do wonder if they're using it as a way to justify the $500 HD3 purchase
I'll try and get more info about it! I reckon I'd prefer 16:9 with a wider lens. Plus, my camera (the one I was flying on in the video) is 4:3, so I guess I'd get that same height only stretched. I do not notice the stretch.
Guys if you want some really awesome designs of them fabric straps for your goggles look up scuba diving mask straps, from what I can tell they are almost identical and there is hundreds of awesome designs out there you can bling up with. If you want you can even just get a padded strap cover and put it over your current strap!!
Are the Aomway compatible with the vortex quadcopter?
Trev looks like Hank from Breaking Bad with those goggles on.
can you compare these to the dominator v3. They are close in price, would these be better than the V3's?
Thanks for the review! I'm just making a decision right now and guess what...Aomway will be my choice!
fatshark have been a disappointment for me since attitude v3's.
expensive, modules are junk, adjustability is limited and expensive.
the only thing others havent done is modules. that you could get 2.4 and other modules is the only redeeming feature of them..
cheers and thanks stu.
how do u hang ur drones on the walll
do you sell the goggles after the videos or what do you do with them?
had the HD3's for AGES awaiting them to bring out the next evolution - not looking like it will happen for a while!
hi .
I'm a little confused. what is the model that you normally you use? I shopping and I want to use what professionals use. Thanks
Mario Flores he uses those Commanders or the fatshark HD3
this has SEALED the deal for me. I currently have the teleporters and wanted to upgrade but not go all the way to an hdv4 or something like that and the commanders look like the best choice for me especially for the price!
I have Dom HD V2 with LaForge diversity and Attitude V4's. I prefer the Attitudes, the reception is better, the DVR is great, I put an 18650 8amp pack on and they last for days. I have never flown so far on 25mW flicker free. I would recommend them.
why did you power on the goggles without the antenna connected? isn’t that bad
There seems to be a problem purchasing these commander Aomway ,Everywhere seems to be out of stock and have been for months
do the diversity module Furious True-D V3.5 Diversity Receiver System work with these?
I would take the Aomway, but no stock here in SA, so got the Skyzone 02S... also a great goggle.
Yes Stew. Those batteries are total garbage. 18650 all day long, literally.
Do you no anywhere in Melbourne to buy aomway goggles?
Hey stew , Does the Aomway have the option for a fan
Quad Father 504 FPV it has a fan but it's underneath, right above your nose, works quite well and it's quiet.
Itza Bird oh ok thanks
just wondering if anyone could help me!
I have just ordered a wizard X220 and was wondering if a 1300Mah battery will work with it?
I also order one of those 'rubish' chargers and a voltage bleeper alarm , I'm hoping they should be good to get me started.
Drone Hero's thanks. I am new to racing quads and it's my first racer, I'm familiar with toy drones and have flown the a lot so I'm familiar with the controls, but wanted to try out a fpv racer. so I ordered the Wizard x220 with a flysky reciver, an echine 00-7 fpv goggles with a triamph antenna. it comes with a 3s 1500mah. I also ordered a new spare battery which is a 1300mah 3s. ( the Wizard hasn't arrived yet)
I don't know why any goggles need a LIPO. Wouldn't a Lithium Ion be lighter, provide adequate current, and leave all the charging and storage headaches behind?
I´ve got both, the commander and the atti v4. I wanted to get my first fpv googles. I decide to keep the v4. I had and awful post service with the commanders, also since they do not have a removable module, if you want to improve (as this hobby has been doing in the last two years) the module can be easly swap. Also with ft, you have way more info about problems than the commander.
The Commander Goggles do have a 4:3 version. Is this just a chopped image? How does the field of view in this mode compare to fatsharks?
Questions over questions. For such a huge investment this is a minefield :D
could i buy the attitude v4 reciever and use it in my dominator v3?
I really wanted to get the commanders, but they are just not available after a couple weeks I just wanted to fly so I got the fatsharks v4 and Im happy with them so far for the park flying I do...