Open Bar #16 - She Hulk, Predator 5, New Doctor Who and Rings of Power

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  • Опубліковано 22 тра 2022
  • It's a packed roster tonight as Nerdrotic, ItsAGundam, MauLer and myself talk about the trailer for She-Hulk, the new Predator movie Prey, the casting of a new Doctor, and Amazon's Rings of Power getting desperate as the fan backlash continues.
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  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 2 роки тому +596

    Can’t wait to see Thor cameo in “Thor: Love and Thunder”.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +28

      They’re gonna do the Book Of Boba Fett thing.

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 2 роки тому +19

      @@chasehedges6775 + Loki and Hawkeye thing

    • @SpFlash1523
      @SpFlash1523 2 роки тому +20

      He’ll have less screen time than Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield had in NWH.

    • @aaronrowell6943
      @aaronrowell6943 2 роки тому +5

      Man what an obscure character, I hope they get it right

    • @thekinkypinkies7437
      @thekinkypinkies7437 2 роки тому +12

      @@newenglandrider3189 it's hard for me not to look at car crashes and train wrecks. If that makes me a lemming in your eyes, then I'm happy you're so far above that. *Claps*

  • @barretxiii27
    @barretxiii27 2 роки тому +134

    "Name someone who suffered more than her!"
    The audience.

    • @widexawake_
      @widexawake_ 2 роки тому +10

      My favourite character from ALL of Media is Freya from Final Fantasy IX. She goes through so much shit. The love of her life leaves to "find himself", only to forget that she exists when they eventually meet again. Her Kingdom gets well and truly fingerblasted, and the survivors get fingerblasted when they believe they're safe. She genuinely suffers through most people's worst nightmares but she never plays the victim, and the writers never make her obnoxious like most professional victims are today. She never puts others down to elevate herself. She uses her experience to raise herself up and helps the rest of the party moving forward. This is how you write powerful characters who suffer. If they gave us reasons to sympathise with a character, who they are superficially doesn't matter. I don't love Freya as a character because I identify with her. I can't. She's a fucking Rat Person and I'm a Straight, Huwhite Male. The narrative these days is that people need to see every facet of themselves in a character to identify with them, but that's just not true. We gravitate towards characters who have fantastic writing, and Final Fantasy IX has some of the best character development in all of media, not because of their: labels, sexual orientation, victimhood, political leanings, or Theological opinions. I hope that we can get back to writing characters and not self inserts.

  • @kevinoneil5120
    @kevinoneil5120 2 роки тому +524

    She-Hulk having total mastery of her powers without having to suffer through bouts of uncontrollable rage is like Caitlyn Jenner being awarded woman of the year without ever having suffered through a menstrual cycle.

    • @widexawake_
      @widexawake_ 2 роки тому +45

      How dare you apply logic to someone's emotional journey like that?

    • @QueenAleenaFan
      @QueenAleenaFan 2 роки тому +11

      Her having mastery of her powers could be fine since it's a refined treatment and being trained by the guy who went through it the hard way, but without other side effects it could feel a bit cheap.

    • @kevinoneil5120
      @kevinoneil5120 2 роки тому +19

      @@QueenAleenaFan I'm not suggesting there's not a clever way to make the scenario work. But I doubt that'll be the case here 😞

    • @kevinoneil5120
      @kevinoneil5120 2 роки тому +29

      @@QueenAleenaFan Plus, the only way they can show Bruce being any kind of mentor to her is if they humiliate him and imply that she's just *better.* I'd love to be wrong, but I won't be.

    • @hariman7727
      @hariman7727 2 роки тому +18

      But that was actually a major part of who She-Hulk was. In the '90s cartoon, she got a blood transfusion from Bruce, and she got permanent superhuman strength but kept her mind. She was never as strong as The Hulk, but she had brains too.
      Now... the whole self loathing "Superheroes are narcissists, The Rich, and Orphans" thing? THAT isn't She-Hulk. She absolutely REVELED in going from a small meek lawyer to buff, sexy, AND still having her smarts.

  • @gladiatorscoops4907
    @gladiatorscoops4907 2 роки тому +152

    A Drinker is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.

    • @Icanonlycountto4
      @Icanonlycountto4 2 роки тому +5

      Especially during happy hour

    • @baffledking9902
      @baffledking9902 2 роки тому +1

      Underrated comment

    • @scottjackson1420
      @scottjackson1420 2 роки тому +3

      That's like my minister at church. Since services start when he begins them, by definition he's never late!

  • @nomaddamon2001
    @nomaddamon2001 2 роки тому +171

    0:42 - Hello
    2:10 - Gary (Nerdrotic) Enters
    3:25 - ItsAGundam Enters
    4:40 - *She-Hulk & Marvel*
    52:30 - *Prey (Predator 5)*
    1:09:26 - *Doctor Who*
    1:15:13 - The Point of Apathy
    1:36:50 - X-Men Films
    1:41:50 - *Picard*
    1:55:53 - Retroactive Destruction
    1:59:46 - Quantum Leap Reboot & More
    2:09:45 - Superchats

  • @TrigonAZR
    @TrigonAZR 2 роки тому +99

    She Hulk- Disney's attempt of filling the void created after Batwoman cancellation

  • @inventgineer
    @inventgineer 2 роки тому +226

    I got hit with all this sexist neo-feminist bullshit from an early age, as my mother was a proud part of that cultural effort. An extremely extremely talented woman, and wasn't unloving towards me, but HOOOOLLY SHIT was it confusing growing up in an environment where to be at all aggressive or competitive or any other male traits a woman may not also experience or enjoy..... was viewed as being primitive and immoral. Years after I had left home for college, and actually started getting exposed more to male ideals and virtues?.....omg, everything about who I was, how I felt towards things, etc suddenly made so much more sense.
    All the self-loathing over parts of myself that led to constant conflict between myself and my mom and effeminate father?.....I suddenly realized, "oh, there is actually a way through life using these traits for good -in fact, they're not only NOT evil, they are and always have been NECESSARY to society functioning."
    My mother is an amazing woman and person, but her sexist one-sided views of men and what makes them good or bad?.....goddamn, made growing up as a young boy around those ideals and notions was hell. SO much internal confusion and self-loathing. Can't even imagine what it's like to have that sort of thing not only normalized at home but also completely saturating all the culture. Legitimately scary.

    • @jeffreychatterton8273
      @jeffreychatterton8273 2 роки тому +46

      “We are a generation of men raised by women “ Tyler Durdan

    • @GreatestGamer9000
      @GreatestGamer9000 2 роки тому

      Your mother sounds like a horrible person.

    • @Plax123
      @Plax123 2 роки тому +9

      You might as well have described my own mother

    • @nealsterling8151
      @nealsterling8151 2 роки тому +9

      You described my life in school.

    • @aceambling7685
      @aceambling7685 2 роки тому +2

      Read the article "Heroes Rise and Monsters Fall" on the substack blog "Myth Pilot". You will find it very illuminating and inspiring.

  • @Robwithakick
    @Robwithakick 2 роки тому +45

    They gave Hawkeye a ruthless, killer edge for those years after the Snap. Then they nerfed him down after his family returned and he remained such for “Hawkeye” the show. They barely addressed the darkness that consumed him for those years.

    • @Bad_Gazpacho
      @Bad_Gazpacho 2 роки тому +11

      They turned my man into The Punisher and it was cool, but they dropped that way too quickly.

  • @FeatherRanching
    @FeatherRanching 2 роки тому +36

    I'm convinced that big studios basically just film a huge amount of semi-random scenes, and then smash a (similarly random) selection of them together into something roughly resembling a plot.

  • @doom4136
    @doom4136 2 роки тому +111

    I envy Gary for being able to binge Babylon 5, SG1 and Farscape for the first time. That was when sci-if tv was good.

    • @TheStonewall117
      @TheStonewall117 2 роки тому +7

      Couldn’t get into Babylon 5, sadly.
      But I started watching Farscape and it’s amazing so far.

    • @thoughtsonfitness3249
      @thoughtsonfitness3249 2 роки тому +3

      B5 as to be watched weekly, it was great having meet ups to discuss the arc back in the day. Watching arc episodes required multiple viewings. I had a 5.1 sound system and I even listened to the back speakers for potential mic drops…. We had some great shows from the 60’s right up-to the 90’s.

    • @thoughtsonfitness3249
      @thoughtsonfitness3249 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheStonewall117 what a shame…? Farscape is good though👍🏼

    • @TheRaviotar
      @TheRaviotar 2 роки тому +3

      @@TheStonewall117
      B5 didn't start all that strong for me, I found a lot of the humor particularly cringe early on, but it really does become an amazing show.
      Farscape is of course awesome (although Peacekeeper Wars was a disappointment).

    • @rdf4315
      @rdf4315 2 роки тому +2

      Don't forget Stargate Atlantis

  • @S4ns
    @S4ns 2 роки тому +23

    There's a real problem with the "fix it in post" mentality in current day movies. It breeds a form of laziness, not in the CGI work itself, but the fact that the directors and showrunners can just ignore tiny details, such as dirt on a face or other continuity problems, and just half-ass a quick fix on a computer instead of actually paying attention to what is going on in the scene.

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 2 роки тому +54

    46:40 Thank you for mentioning Kim Wexler.
    She is an example of an actual “strong female character”.
    She is smart, talented and resourceful but the writers never shy to give her flaws that she has to either overcome or succumb to it.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +1

      Such a great female character. 💯💯💯💯

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +1

      but the writers never shy to giver her flaws that she has to overcome
      💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

    • @victora.1329
      @victora.1329 2 роки тому +9

      Yeah watching this last season I kept saying "go Kim!" It's so refreshing to see a well written female lead that is relatable and doesn't teal the male protagonist's thunder. In fact, Saul and Kim compliment each others characters in such a beautiful and twisted way

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +1

      @@victora.1329 Jimmy/Saul and Km are the best.
      ❤️❤️

    • @Eluxor
      @Eluxor 2 роки тому +4

      Have they talked about BCS ever? I think they might have, but I cant see Maulers podcasts because I have a life, I dont know.

  • @fallous
    @fallous 2 роки тому +32

    I'm pretty sure Marvel has turned into some kind of MLM. "OK She-Hulk you can get a show but you have to recruit 3 friends in your down-line and when they get their own shows you'll get a percentage of their revenue!"

    • @thesaltmerchant4564
      @thesaltmerchant4564 2 роки тому

      I think it’s as simple as they found out what a monthly sub base of paying fans feels like and are just scrambling to shove out what they can to keep people thinking about them

  • @theworldsmostplagiarizedma2436
    @theworldsmostplagiarizedma2436 2 роки тому +106

    The World War Hulk and stories like it are the reason I was so vocal about the MCU going multiversal. I thought it would be an opportunity to do the stories they couldn't do because of the strict, established cannon. Instead we get an Echo series about nothing.

    • @isaiahgarraway5568
      @isaiahgarraway5568 2 роки тому +5

      Sadly we cant get world war hulk or many hulk stories due to rights issues but for some reason She hulk and abomination are off the table. Also the moment for any world war hulk storyline was gone since Age of ultron and ragnarok where they already referenced it. It sucks really

    • @HiddenHandMedia
      @HiddenHandMedia 2 роки тому +8

      This whole multiverse cop out shit and having no cannon is the reason every series on tv has gone to complete shit.

    • @isaiahgarraway5568
      @isaiahgarraway5568 2 роки тому +2

      @@HiddenHandMedia The problem is a lot of these tv shows especially Disney case they are newbies and no names who just got the job and have no idea on what they are working on. The showrunner on Wandavisoon didnt know a lot Mephisto and fiege was the the one who added the teases to him depsite he never shows up

  • @KeonVioletWilkins
    @KeonVioletWilkins 2 роки тому +47

    Imagine if they explored Thor with a fraction of the grit and edge Guts from Berserk had? How would someone like that apply their previous lessons of stepping up and taking responsibility and how to protect one's own operate with those lessons taken to a logical extreme after failing to save the majority of his people and kill the man responsible for half the universe being wiped out.
    Marvel has always been held as the company telling human stories compared to the modern myths of DC. However they have lost themselves in unrelatable characters and a cycle of redundant world building that finds itself dated by the next work that contradicts it.
    A man building a suit was much more compelling than... *insert any number of boiled down ploy examples from phase 4*

    • @theVictor-isVonDoom
      @theVictor-isVonDoom 2 роки тому +3

      Infinity war came close then endgame did a huge 180° out of nowhere

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +5

      Iron Man 2008 was a perfect film In every way. It was made during different times than now.
      Back when people cared more about telling good, personal storytelling than just… whatever is going with movies now

    • @theVictor-isVonDoom
      @theVictor-isVonDoom 2 роки тому +3

      @@chasehedges6775 I still think Iron man 1 is one of the top mcu films to date

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +1

      @@theVictor-isVonDoom 💯💯💯

    • @thesaltmerchant4564
      @thesaltmerchant4564 2 роки тому

      I just got and am reading the second volume of the deluxe berserk set and wow no way will they touch anything near what that story covers

  • @ChrisMisMYhandle
    @ChrisMisMYhandle 2 роки тому +56

    I watched predator on Saturday night after watching your chat about it. What a great movie.

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 2 роки тому +2

      Great in the sense that the same film cannot be made in todays woke error.

    • @gladiatorscoops4907
      @gladiatorscoops4907 2 роки тому +9

      Funnily enough I watched Predator 2 Saturday night. I mean I've seen it so many times but who had known that the leading character's skin colour wasn't an overriding factor in his story and that it actually had a good strong female character in it and the writers didn't feel the need to have her kicking every 200 pound man's ass.
      ......She did grab Paxman by the ghoulies, but it was totally within reason and was quite funny too.
      Glover is so damn good in that movie, forgot how solid a sequel it was.....how i miss those days.

    • @stevennewlands2978
      @stevennewlands2978 2 роки тому +2

      @@gladiatorscoops4907 i did the same as you. Totally appreciate how it respected the predator lore with out copying the first and expanded on the mystery of the predators in a respectful way.

    • @ChrisMisMYhandle
      @ChrisMisMYhandle 2 роки тому

      I had seen predator a lot of times before but not for ages. I guess it's predator 2 next movie night then. I haven't seen it before, but I do like Danny Glover.
      Love me some Lethal weapon

    • @JadeRunner
      @JadeRunner 2 роки тому

      @@gladiatorscoops4907 I don't get Predator 2. To me it's a goofy parody of the first movie where the Predator is something of a clown ("mothafocker") and for the life of me I'll never figure out why they thought making the sequel to Predator a _cop_ movie was a good idea. And the drug lord is so over the top ("he's from the udder syde"). AND it was where they started making the Predators these nobel, honourable warriors which the original Predator never was.
      Just don't get it.

  • @arthurrhodes3215
    @arthurrhodes3215 2 роки тому +17

    Ice Pirates holds a special place in my heart. Me and my dad must have watched it a hundred times when i was a kid to the point the VHS tape wore out. Its a very good B movie imo. Super silly throughout and oozing 80's. They don't make them like this anymore

    • @captainblood9616
      @captainblood9616 2 роки тому +2

      I don't know if I saw that.. I loved Yellowbeard though... and Time Bandits. I'll have to look Ice Pirates up.

    • @roybal1975
      @roybal1975 2 роки тому +3

      INDEED I LOVED ICE PIRATES I HAVE THE DVD

  • @piratesnugglecakes
    @piratesnugglecakes 2 роки тому +8

    I like the version of that backdrop picture where they gave Valkyrie a big handlebar mustache. The one laugh I got regarding that movie.

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 2 роки тому +8

    Nerdrotic talking about all these sci-fi shows from late 90s made me miss that era so damn much...

  • @Neat0_o
    @Neat0_o 2 роки тому +30

    Yo that open bar opening is fooking brilliant.

  • @frikabg
    @frikabg 2 роки тому +17

    I love how Gundam is shocked when he hears about the new wave of woke shit coming our way! He is like ''this is not real right?! You are joking!"" :D Ohhh gundam! You are such a national treasure!

  • @chasehedges6775
    @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +39

    17:19
    What isn’t rushed these days.
    Good grief, I miss when films and TV shows were allowed to be slower and take their time with things.
    The Lord Of The Rings films were well made because of that and Breaking Bad is one of the best TV shows made *because* they took their time and you got to connect and relate to the characters.

    • @gloriousmongoose
      @gloriousmongoose 2 роки тому +4

      Actually allowing for a character arc?! MADNESS!

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому

      @@gloriousmongoose 💯💯💯💯

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому

      @@gloriousmongoose THIS IS SPARTA!

    • @gloriousmongoose
      @gloriousmongoose 2 роки тому +1

      @@chasehedges6775 Imagine actually having characters believably progress in some way? Hah! So stupid.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +4

      @@gloriousmongoose Yeah, screw that crud. We can’t have characters making mistakes, facing their mortality, learning more about themselves and the world and figuring things out or becoming a better versions of themselves.
      That’s just dumb nonsense.

  • @javierortiz82
    @javierortiz82 2 роки тому +34

    My takes:
    - Just saw Top Gun Maverick: good movie, made me care about the characters and had me at the edge of the seat in the key action scenes.
    - She Hulk looks like hot Gruntilda from Banjo Kazooie, I would argue looks worse than a N64 character.

    • @nickbarnett8561
      @nickbarnett8561 2 роки тому +3

      Bear and Bird think the writer's a hack, they'll never have their heroes back! *witch laughter*

    • @marcelluslondon4762
      @marcelluslondon4762 2 роки тому

      Gruntilda is already hot

  • @aterriblesliceoftoast4096
    @aterriblesliceoftoast4096 2 роки тому +44

    Completely agree with that sentiment about being happy that you got to have fun growing up. I’d hate to be a teen right now, could imagine myself being cancelled and castrated 3 times a week.

    • @libertyprime6932
      @libertyprime6932 2 роки тому +11

      Worse, you might become one of them. If it's what you're being fed at school every day you might start thinking it's normal.

    • @Top_G_wannabe
      @Top_G_wannabe 2 роки тому +6

      I’m a teen but don’t worry not one of THOSE teens

    • @MemoryMori
      @MemoryMori 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah those days when your furniture was paint with LEAD pain and you as a baby lick it, when you eat plaster, get almost poke your eye when you play Pirates with sticks, then when you were covered in blood and get home your mom almost beat you to *** becouse you just soiled your clothes, you periodicly go to the river and almost drown yourself, you get lost in playing hide and seek and get home 3h later than you should.....
      And we hade McGayver, Knigh Rider, Swarcenator and Rambo :D ....yeah my childhood was aw3s0me compared to anything past 2010...

    • @fesoy1174
      @fesoy1174 2 роки тому

      I feel sad for people like you, who think being bigoted is "having fun" and most likely had a bad childhood. Kids these days are better.

    • @Top_G_wannabe
      @Top_G_wannabe 2 роки тому +4

      @@fesoy1174 I’m a teenager yet I openly admit that our generation can’t take a joke to save their life. People have to pander to hundreds of different groups otherwise they are “bigoted”. The entertainment industry is possibly the worst example, ruining movies and shows trying to suck up to every group and forgetting to tell a good story.

  • @aegaeon117
    @aegaeon117 2 роки тому +23

    Universal Studios still owns rights to The Hulk, that's why World War Hulk was mixed in with Thor Ragnarok.

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 2 роки тому +1

      Still think that film is underatted as hell, Tim Roth was great in it.

    • @MegaSpideyman
      @MegaSpideyman 10 місяців тому

      None of that counts as Planet Hulk or World War Hulk.

  • @Helthrum
    @Helthrum 2 роки тому +15

    The lore for Predators is deep and according to that they have been here from the early 1100s and they only used the wrist blades and knife until firearms enter the scene and even then they only use the cloak until semiautomatic guns.

  • @amarawinchester963
    @amarawinchester963 2 роки тому +4

    MauLeeeeerrrrrr! I want to give you a medal for mentioning spike and Angel! By far the best duo ever! These two needed a show only about them! I love their argument about the caveman and astronaut 🤣 how Wesley just joins them after realizing how stupid their fight was! I love them so much! Joss was so good sometimes … seriously

  • @SumDumGy
    @SumDumGy 2 роки тому +10

    Marvel has always been able to do a solo Hulk film without Universal. From Feige’s own mouth, Universal only had first right of refusal distribution rights. That’s it. Nothing has been done with the Hulk in over a decade. Even those rights should have lapsed long ago. Feige stated very clearly that the only reason a solo Hulk sequel was never made was that he didn’t view it as financially viable.
    This incorrect narrative on this situation has been going on long enough. The facts have been out there for nearly ten years now.

  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 2 роки тому +9

    All our beloved IP laid to waste. Fortunately, those old movies still exist. It is a shame as this should be a golden age of film and TV - the technology and fan base are there. What's missing are the top-tier creatives being free to make these new shows great. What should be a culture of excellence has become a culture of ideology.

  • @HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt
    @HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt 2 роки тому +6

    "Midnight" is one of my all time *FAVE* episodes of any filmed entertainment, *ever* . From start to finish, best pacing you can ask for.

  • @darkknight57691
    @darkknight57691 2 роки тому +12

    More Gundam please. He's always so funny. Him laughing more and more at 2:01:47 is great

  • @blankadams3120
    @blankadams3120 2 роки тому +12

    Something I realized last week: When Cap caught Mjolnir in Infinity War? Did he get the metal plate bikini? No. So, why does Jane Foster get the outfit?

    • @jxetv5049
      @jxetv5049 2 роки тому +3

      Hey! Logic isn't allowed here! Away with you!
      /s

    • @NoQuarterNoMercy1
      @NoQuarterNoMercy1 2 роки тому

      I think she’s going to be a different Jane from another universe.

    • @Ceyx000
      @Ceyx000 2 роки тому

      Cap was already wearing armor.
      If he wanted, he could have altered what he was wearing. He was likely preoccupied with not losing to galactic genocide Grimace.
      It's a Breast plate, it's in the name.

  • @danielquick988
    @danielquick988 2 роки тому +6

    Having a few beers listening to this podcast. Love listening to all your opinions, gives a lot of insight on some things I may have missed

  • @Yup712
    @Yup712 2 роки тому +21

    And I found Gary from Nerdrotic’s mention of the similarities between “Babylon 5” and “ASOIAF” pretty interesting! Your pop culture and comics knowledge will never bore me Gary! LOL

  • @Mitchell_Gant
    @Mitchell_Gant 2 роки тому +33

    I would love you guys watching/rewatching Stargate SG-1, Atlantis and maybe even Universe. And Samantha Carter is indeed a great, strong and likeable female character, on of those that allegedly didn't exist before Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel( FUCK OFF MOVIE).

    • @aaronrowell6943
      @aaronrowell6943 2 роки тому +7

      Well you see they didn't make her so she doesn't count.
      At this point that seems to be the only defense that these people who have no talent have for whenever somebody points out the obvious countless examples of strong female characters who are awesome and that everybody loves but they want you to like their new stuff that is either insulting or just not that great

    • @mrq1
      @mrq1 2 роки тому +5

      Except for that third episode in Season 1. Dialed her up to feminazi for that one. *Cringe*

    • @Grivehn
      @Grivehn 2 роки тому +3

      Yes, please. There are rumors of it coming back, with the show's continuity and one of the original head writers, and likely a bunch of cameos. Wouldnt that be nice... Universe was getting off its feet in the 2nd half of the 2nd season, when it got axed, too. That ep. when they brought back McKay and Langara (Jonas' world) was just a french kiss for longtime fans.

    • @theVictor-isVonDoom
      @theVictor-isVonDoom 2 роки тому

      Amanda Tapping should've played Powergirl I'll never forgive Hollywood for letting her age too far to play the character that was IDENTICAL to her appearance

    • @mohitprakash1408
      @mohitprakash1408 2 роки тому +2

      )In this era of hollywood movies, Nyeteri from Avatar(2009) is a strong female character. in humble my opinion. I know everbody likes to hate avatar right now but i will say it nonethless.

  • @NickSlaten333
    @NickSlaten333 2 роки тому +8

    I really think one strong female character I really like that is overlooked is Dr Elizabeth from Stargate Atlantis. She was in charge, smart, and very reasonable. She also knew she was a scientist and didn't try to be anything she wasn't. I really miss that show.

  • @1701EarlGrey
    @1701EarlGrey 2 роки тому +9

    1:06:34 - yes, Garry and the best one was original "Batman vs Predator" - which was my introduction to Predator. And now Disney will introduce "Pocahontas vs Predator" - a tiny, Indian woman will do better than whole squad of special forces soldiers from 80's... to bad those Indians didn't do so well against XIX century US cavalry armed with Colt pistols and Winchesters rifles - I totally can believe that those Indians are better than space hunter who destroyed team from first Predator movie...🤣

  • @Geminias
    @Geminias 2 роки тому +6

    When I first heard the premise for the new Predator I just assumed that the origin of the lost colony of settlers with the whole Croatoan thing would feature and the Predator would be the reason the town disappeared.

  • @Jetstoanywhere
    @Jetstoanywhere 2 роки тому +15

    Who suffered more than Wanda?
    Lots of people , you point to a normal person on the street and they suffered more than wanda

    • @TheRaviotar
      @TheRaviotar 2 роки тому +2

      Anyone who can't just use magic to solve all their problems has suffered more than Wanda

    • @mrmxyzptlk8906
      @mrmxyzptlk8906 2 роки тому

      I mean she’s suffered a ton man.

  • @andrewhoffman1087
    @andrewhoffman1087 2 роки тому +6

    Edit: I posted this before I got to Drinkers comment that pretty much states what I was also saying. Not trying to plagiarize: just editing this for the record.
    I think part of the reason those of us in The Lord of the Rings fandom are still ready to fight is not just because it hasn't fully been abused to hell and back just yet, but because we know it is done. Yeah, the hobbit movies were far, FAR from great, but they weren't the worst things to come out of Hollywood. Plus, a lot like the Star Wars prequels, they didn't ultimately change anything too crucial about the originals. Things could have gone worse with those films, and I don't think we will get that luck with Amazon.
    But, regarding the story being finished, again, the main quest is over, and our heroes' stories are basically all told. Yes, there are appendices, in the back of the Return of the King. Yes, the Silmarillion is the Genesis of Middle-Earth and all of its tales. But that's really it. Again, the main line story is DONE. There is no new ring to destroy, or Infinty Stone to collect: It. Is. Done. And this is a part of WHY it worked as a movie series. There was a clear goal, with a beginning, middle, and end. MARVEL, the Predator movies, Terminator, and all these other franchises are being forced to continue, well past there expiration date. Adding anymore to them is just like putting more seasonings to a roast that's already been burned, from being left in the cooker far too long. It's pointless, and ultimately pleases no one, or worse, just makes people more bitter and angry then if you had just accepted the loss and tried something new.
    I've posted this sentiment, or nearly identical comment on many videos, but The Lord of the Rings is the hill that I will die on. No studio can take away what we already received, but I cannot bare the thought of them adding to, and tarnishing - "improving" - something that was so great.

  • @governorboltz
    @governorboltz 2 роки тому +10

    Back to the Future, Gremlins and Conan have yet to be tarnished (the Jason Momoa Conan wasn't good, but it wasn't insulting), and let's keep it that way.

  • @policesquad
    @policesquad 2 роки тому +10

    please upload these earlier or stop privatising them on your main channel. sometimes this loses its relevance uploading it nearly a week after it was aired.

  • @WarriorTier
    @WarriorTier 2 роки тому +12

    2022 Marvel is a reminder that existence is pain

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +2

      💯💯💯💯💯💯. It’s pathetic

    • @WarriorTier
      @WarriorTier 2 роки тому +2

      @@chasehedges6775 it’s gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets better

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +1

      @@WarriorTier Life in a nutshell.

    • @gaelofariandel6747
      @gaelofariandel6747 2 роки тому +1

      Marvel Meseeks: "I can't take it any more! I just wanna die! Existence is pain!"

  • @hadayimosi
    @hadayimosi 2 роки тому +32

    They missed a trick with She Hulk. They should have just turned Bruce Banner into Brenda Banner and fully committed to their cult of woke, taking out two birds with one stone.
    It was Disney's chance to shove in "THE MESSAGE," and they/them blew it.

    • @ricardoroque3415
      @ricardoroque3415 2 роки тому +3

      🤣🤣😂

    • @DisTra
      @DisTra 2 роки тому +3

      Don't you mean Caitlyn Banner?

    • @DivineFalcon
      @DivineFalcon 2 роки тому +4

      @@DisTra Nope, alliterations (rhyming names) is pretty much a requirement for comic book characters: Bruce Banner, Peter Parker, Steven Strange, Reed Richards, Matt Murdoch, Sue Storm, Miles Morales, and of course the most egregious of them all: J. Jonah Jameson Jr.
      I've barely scratched the surface on such names just in Marvel (DC is just as bad), but you get the idea.

  • @Dinosreviews
    @Dinosreviews 2 роки тому +7

    An example of a female boss getting her comeuppance would be in the film Wanted. However, you’re so right that would never happen nowadays.

  • @hbleblanc205
    @hbleblanc205 2 роки тому +25

    A Predator movie set in Shogunate Japan would be really cool.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому

      I’d be down for that

    • @hbleblanc205
      @hbleblanc205 2 роки тому +2

      @@chasehedges6775 really easy set up and the people who just have to have diversity could get it. Everyone could love this film.

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 2 роки тому +3

      Disney would just have them go up against non existent female Samurai’s, like this silly Comanche princess? So utterly contrived and nonsensical, pitting a 90lb little girl with a bow and arrow against a 7ft 2 375lb alien with an array of high tech weaponry. Even without them, it would be a huge mismatch???

    • @kevink1575
      @kevink1575 2 роки тому +2

      ^I don't have an issue with a female native. Some tribes were matriarchal (although they still sent their men to fight), but superhuman acts by tiny female characters are way too much to stomach. But who knows? Maybe we'll get a realistic female protagonist like Ripley and it'll be great....but I doubt it.

    • @TheJollyMisanthrope
      @TheJollyMisanthrope 2 роки тому

      Remove the movie logic that says a Katana can cut through anything and the Predators wipe the floor with everyone.

  • @hirnbreg
    @hirnbreg 11 місяців тому +1

    "This far and no further" gave me Gandalf on the bridge vibes "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, weilder if the flame of Anor. You Cannot Pass! ..."

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 2 роки тому +58

    My prediction for the new Thor movie.
    - Thor is gonna be chastised so hard for being how big of a failure he is and how he is so unworthy of the throne because of being fat, in contrast with “Mighty Thor” which we be shown about how awesome she is. Because in Marvel, male’s grief is a laughing stock that should be ridiculed and condemned.
    - Nobody will ever bring up Valkyrie being a former slaver.
    - Thor and Star-Lord will be a gay couple, mainly to mock Chris Pratt (because Marvel had done it once in Star-Lord comics a few years ago by making Star-Lord gay or bi).

    • @ivayloivanov7231
      @ivayloivanov7231 2 роки тому +12

      Not forget black asgardians BS!

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +24

      Nobody will ever bring up Valkyrie being a former slaver.
      Looking back, yeah, that just bugs me immensely.

    • @MultiCommissar
      @MultiCommissar 2 роки тому

      > Because in Marvel, male’s grief is a laughing stock that should be ridiculed and condemned.
      Welcome to Western civilization.

    • @Greggah
      @Greggah 2 роки тому

      Look its ”empowering” when black women do it to white men.

    • @markhill3858
      @markhill3858 2 роки тому

      my prediction .. its taika it will be really good :)

  • @AShockToTheSystem
    @AShockToTheSystem 2 роки тому +11

    All these shows, all these remakes, reimagining, adjustments made for "modern times", all supposedly for the "global audience". And yet, the "global audience" they have in mind and cater to is western countries, primarily the US. They are so self-centered that the rest of the world does not matter to them. In fact, the world should just quietly adjust and blindly accept all these new, superior "western values" that are being pushed on them (same values that even the western population is rejecting).
    Because, of course, those that talk the loudest about valuing other cultures and about "decolonization", are the ones that will gladly stand on the vanguard of a new wave of conquest, to bring "civilization and enlightenment" to the world. Except this time, it's ideological conquest, through modern media.
    But that's ok, the rest of the world is just laughing at them. China already has Hollywood by the balls, others might join soon.

  • @kurington.blogspot7876
    @kurington.blogspot7876 2 роки тому +5

    Nerdrotic makes every conversation better. He brings not only his own sanity filled wisdom into it, but also brings up the best out of who he is having a conversation with. Made for this job.

    • @HerohammerStudios
      @HerohammerStudios Рік тому

      He makes every conversation worse. He brings way too much sexist incel rage

  • @jotun.616
    @jotun.616 2 роки тому +2

    That description of hulk roaring and all the females scoffing is so accurate to real life. They wouldnt be scared of hulk, not cuz hes weak, but cuz hes not allowed to hit them. And just like real life, one dude deciding to blast a chick in the face would send the rest running in a panic.

  • @hakan7346
    @hakan7346 2 роки тому +7

    Just watched Topgun 2. There are some flashback scenes and some clone scenes from the first movie but its a fun movie its an optimistic good old movie IMO. I liked it and will watch again. Good closure. Looking forward to future TOP GUN movie marathon nights. I am sure there are many things you can pull apart but in the end I didnt want to do that. I know its flawd but the feeling it leaves you with is real. You dont need to pixelpeep a good photograph.

  • @hiighcalibre
    @hiighcalibre 2 роки тому +3

    Voyager ruined the Borg when they gave them a queen. The writers didn't even understand their own material, they were a collective consciousness not a hive species.

  • @keenananderson-fears2430
    @keenananderson-fears2430 2 роки тому +11

    Your points on Disney not being able to write male characters with "edge", goes back to Jordan Peterson's line about being able to be a monster. The preverbal becoming one with the shadow a la Tool 46&2 and Carl Jung. In order to be strong capable people, the übermensch, you must confront and become one with the darkest parts of you. Then and only then can you be a hero. Disney's inability to write this is reflected in all their male protagonists in the modern era vis a vis Simba vs Boba Fett. One has to kill his uncle the other has his edge taken from him. This however creates a society in which people are able to determine for themselves their own needs and desires and are no longer dependent.

    • @TheScarletSlayer
      @TheScarletSlayer 2 роки тому +4

      Remember back in the early days of marvel when banner admits he had enough and tried to kill himself but the hulk wouldn't let him die......PPSSSSSSTTTT NEVERMIND THAT KIDDY GARBAGE BECAUSE SHE HULK CANT FIND A DATE ON TINDER

    • @fesoy1174
      @fesoy1174 2 роки тому +1

      Imagine unironically quoting Jordan Peterson. Yikes on several bikes.

    • @JadeRunner
      @JadeRunner 2 роки тому +3

      @@fesoy1174 imagine buying into the corporate press's narrative on Jordan Peterson. 🤦‍♂️

  • @DavidMoore-bl7gb
    @DavidMoore-bl7gb 2 роки тому +5

    Ice Pirates and Yellowbeard two movies my 3 younger brothers and I mention often over a shared bottle of Bourbon. One thing I did no know about Ice Pirates til after watching a great mini-doc about the making of the movie. Initially it started as a serious space epic but after watching the early cuts the writer/director and actors decided it was much better to take itself not so seriously and go a more comedic route. A very good decision as the movie is hilarious and would be so forgettable as a more serious film. Yellowbeard are a few python players which is more than enough for 30 years of inside jokes and quoting for my family. " Stagger , Stagger, get shot, crawl , crawl.. "

  • @Starwarslegorob
    @Starwarslegorob 4 місяці тому

    I love the backlog of Open Bar ! Hours & Hours of Top Notch Entertainment ! Cheers 🍻

  • @crazyralph6386
    @crazyralph6386 2 роки тому +11

    After they defile Obi Wan, it’s time for EVERYONE to move on from giving these fawks their money, to watch them systematically destroy each and every beloved franchise? Don’t even give them the satisfaction of a critique, as they all probably get off on it, since they’re all sociopaths.

  • @rhyshughes9156
    @rhyshughes9156 2 роки тому +3

    With Q n Sisqo, the next line was great. "I'm not Picard"... "no, you can be prevoked"

  • @devilsdenadam1558
    @devilsdenadam1558 2 роки тому +3

    Ice Pirates was 80’s Gold….

  • @friskyfreebe
    @friskyfreebe 2 роки тому +6

    Watching this for the second time. Good back ground stimulation while I play some ark. Thankful to the powers that be for uniting mauler and drinker.

  • @jb6563
    @jb6563 2 роки тому +8

    Finally! When do these happen? I've only ever caught 1 during the live broadcast and that was by complete accident. I hate waiting for the re-upload.

  • @Soyuz2578
    @Soyuz2578 2 роки тому +9

    Just what I needed for the long train ride home niiiiiice

    • @moneyball7908
      @moneyball7908 2 роки тому

      Best feeling sometimes when that happens, enjoy!

  • @laughingmask3118
    @laughingmask3118 2 роки тому +1

    BREAD THREE TIMES ON THEOR GROCERY LIST
    THAT ONE KILLED ME

  • @vanhopecomedy
    @vanhopecomedy 2 роки тому +3

    46:41 Yes thank you for shouting out about Kim Wexler. Fantastic character!

  • @theglanconer6463
    @theglanconer6463 2 роки тому +5

    Hell yeah Yellowbeard and Ice Pirates. Brings me back to my youth. Fun movies, great memories, still quite a few years to go for my first Lagvulin though. Ah well..

  • @megadeuce2350
    @megadeuce2350 2 роки тому +5

    Predator talk was hilarious.
    Also the Preds can time travel

  • @richtifilmpalast5373
    @richtifilmpalast5373 2 роки тому +2

    I loved ""Ice Pirates" !! :-D
    Robbert Urich as swashbuckling starship captain! :-D

  • @phoenixproductions2846
    @phoenixproductions2846 2 роки тому +2

    "The good times are freaking over"
    Gundam
    Hit hard being a teenager who hangs out with adults alot feeling like my teenage years are but scraps of what there's were like it really does suck man

    • @Brownie-ms6sv
      @Brownie-ms6sv 2 роки тому +3

      Don't worry about it. As someone who actually lived through the 80's, I can tell you they weren't as amazing as everyone makes out. Back then we used to look back at the 60s as some kind of lost golden age instead. Its a generational thing, nostalgia always makes the past look better than it actually was.

    • @phoenixproductions2846
      @phoenixproductions2846 2 роки тому +2

      @@Brownie-ms6sv yeah makes sense
      I just can't help but think things were at least alittle better then but I suppose I wouldn't know

  • @johndurham6172
    @johndurham6172 2 роки тому +4

    Echo is going to be like that wrestler who had one leg, he was interesting for a few minutes but faded fast.

  • @supergrovah2729
    @supergrovah2729 2 роки тому +2

    I was today years old when I discovered that Critical Drinker hangs out with my favorite streamer, Nerdrotic...... and just like that, I went on a video binge and haven't found the "bottom of the bottle" yet. Maybe THIS one...... ;)

  • @blemishednicely8402
    @blemishednicely8402 Рік тому +1

    My favourite Brent Spiner role, outside of Data, is as the villain in that movie where he keeps sinister-laughing & loudly farting simultaneously throughout the film...
    (to quote John Callahan's "QUADS":)
    ...I...smell...EMMY!!!~

  • @EGuevarra01
    @EGuevarra01 2 роки тому +3

    Drinker you should do a singular video outlining "The Formula" - like a checklist with multiple examples all over from Marvel, DC and otherwise. You're always mentioning it but might worthwhile to have a video you can reference too, because yeah you see it eeeeeeverywhere! Anyways, Cheers!

  • @chrisschulz88
    @chrisschulz88 2 роки тому +3

    1. Arnold could come back as an older agent.
    2. Aliens are overtaking parts of earth, humans (marines) and predators teams up to wipe out the aliens on earth.

  • @F1rstWorldNomaD
    @F1rstWorldNomaD 2 роки тому +1

    Thor wasnt a great movie or anything but I did kinda like it.
    It was kinda charming and even wholesome at times and they did the whole "fish out of water" thing really rather good.
    He felt really out of place but not like it was forced.
    It felt like how a person like Thor would actually behave in such circumstances.
    One of my favorite jokes in Marvel is in Thor where he walk into the pet store and in a very "I am the lord and you are my subjects" kinda way belows out
    "I NEED A HORSE"!"
    and the guy behind the counter goes:
    "Errr, we sell cats and parrots and stuff"
    and Thor replies with great authority, confidence and regal regal tone
    "Then give me one big enough to ride"
    The joke in itself is kinda so-so but the deliver is just fakking awsome.
    When he enters and demands a horse is just so falwless as to how I would imagine a pompous, douch who knows nothing about the place or situation hes in would act.
    It completely cracks me every time.

  • @datessemoya6201
    @datessemoya6201 2 роки тому +3

    I think a loose adaptation of the Predator Concrete Jungle video game could be fun and it has a fairly good story to work with

  • @HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt
    @HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt 2 роки тому +1

    "for a bowl of _soup_ " ... 🤣 😂

  • @beatrizfernandes1506
    @beatrizfernandes1506 2 роки тому +3

    I'm surprised nobody has come out and exposed these new Hollywood guidelines about representation as a rehash of the Hays code. Cause that's what it reminds me of; except under the Hays code they could still write characters..

  • @RadToucan
    @RadToucan 2 роки тому +9

    The first thing that came mind when I saw the shehulk trailer was “Bruce’s life was so hard that he tried to kill himself, and couldn’t, and now he wants to do the same to a woman?”. It’s gonna be a crap show

    • @ricardoroque3415
      @ricardoroque3415 2 роки тому

      Yeah stupid logic but they’ve never cared about hulks character tbh

  • @teddyharvester
    @teddyharvester 2 роки тому +2

    At this point I have to wonder - did the Russos make Endgame the way they did on purpose just to fuck with everything and everyone that comes after? Like, they make all these bafffling decisions, and right after a movie of so many absolutely boss decisions, just to make the MCU seemingly uncontinuable in any coherent way, just saying "good luck fuckers" to all the writers and directors who will have to pick up from there... Maybe they saw where it was going and just wanted go show us that this is where anything decent cuts off.

  • @Mark-G1978
    @Mark-G1978 2 роки тому +1

    Love you guys.. what’s with The Punisher look with Valkyrie? Lmfao

  • @Cowboycomando54
    @Cowboycomando54 2 роки тому +3

    The problem with the new Top Gun movie is how during production, Tom Cruise was a complete shit head to the sailors on the Theodore Roosevelt during filming. Sailors were give a direct order to not even look at him and to make way in th P-way when ever he passed. Even the CO was forced to give up his cabin so Tom could stay in it.

  • @SansoHumar
    @SansoHumar 9 місяців тому

    Here from the future. Man are you guys in for a treat.

  • @obiwanmacleod5439
    @obiwanmacleod5439 2 роки тому +2

    I actually liked the Ed Norton Hulk

  • @randycliff4045
    @randycliff4045 Рік тому

    Interesting comments -- enjoyed it. I thought of a 40yr old movie during the talks; "Outland (1981)" with Sean Connery and Peter Boyle, is a Federal Marshall plot at a mining colony set in space (on a Jupiter moon). I remember really enjoying it, but haven't seen it in many, many years.

  • @ephasm
    @ephasm 2 роки тому +1

    They should do a Hulk Year 1, but treat it like a Kaiju film

  • @thelaughingrouge
    @thelaughingrouge 2 роки тому +3

    I don't even need to see this movie, we all know how every beat of this things is gonna go note for note.

  • @elwootador
    @elwootador 2 роки тому +1

    Just an aside. Who made your opening theme? It's a banger and I love it.

  • @redtigerproduction8627
    @redtigerproduction8627 2 роки тому

    Yo when hulk said "leave me alone" in Edward Norton's hulk movie had me smile

  • @JenniferMcMahonhawaii78
    @JenniferMcMahonhawaii78 Рік тому

    Ice Pirates is fantastic!
    The movie Mr, Drinker needs to watch if he hasn’t seen it, is THE FINAL COUNTDOWN. Think Top Gun, but with time travel, World War II, actual aerial combat, United States Navy, Martin Sheen, a dog, the villain from the first Muppet movie, Hawaii Pearl Harbor.
    Also, the song the final countdown is not in the movie because the movie came out years before the song was released.

  • @thoughtsonfitness3249
    @thoughtsonfitness3249 2 роки тому +5

    Been waiting for this stream to drop since it went out live… Getting Tyrone Magnus would be awesome got to get him for FNT too!?!

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +2

      Same💯💯💯💯

    • @PunksterOS
      @PunksterOS 2 роки тому +1

      You should keep the link to the original, the video is just unlisted.

    • @thoughtsonfitness3249
      @thoughtsonfitness3249 2 роки тому

      @@PunksterOS I thought I had…? I get them live usually …?? UA-cam shenanigans

  • @steviepruett9232
    @steviepruett9232 2 роки тому +3

    Jane the Goddess of Thunder, Not mighty Thor because Thor is his name not Title.

  • @chasehedges6775
    @chasehedges6775 2 роки тому +7

    Looking back, I don’t see how Moon Knight was any different from any other Disney Marvel show.
    It’s mediocre.
    Oscar Isaac is 💯🔥 though and Ethan Hawk fantastic

    • @libertyprime6932
      @libertyprime6932 2 роки тому +4

      Mediocre is very generous for a Marvel TV show lol

  • @Adino1
    @Adino1 Рік тому +2

    45:35 kek
    1:49:54 that is a hilarious insult, I'll have to remember that one

  • @kylieblair9171
    @kylieblair9171 2 роки тому

    Would love to see you all review/look into the series Raised by Wolves, set in the Alien (Ridley Scott) universe. It got cancelled recently after season 2. Damn shame, one of the few recent projects that's been run by a group that's actually passionate about what they're doing and it's clear in the end result, they even had Ridley working and advising on things with them.

  • @Kwistoweeish
    @Kwistoweeish Рік тому +1

    14:24 If he’s a tough character to build a movie around, and then I guess you would have to be a good writer to do it well. And also, how many times have we revisited King Kong? His movies are of varying levels of quality, but there are compelling things that you can explore.

  • @AnimalMkIV
    @AnimalMkIV 2 роки тому +1

    With the state of Hollywood at the moment, I fully expect Top Gun 2 to have Maverick's plane replaced by a black helicopter after the opening scene.

  • @leipzigergnom
    @leipzigergnom 2 роки тому +2

    Honestly, Oscar Isaac's best role was probably Joseph in "The Nativity," a small film about Jesus' birth.

  • @MatthewRecko
    @MatthewRecko 2 роки тому

    Midnight is by far the scariest and most gripping episode. The writes convinced me for 15 min that the docs plot armor was kaput and that we light lose him. Def something to be said about how constraints and limitations can breed creativity.

  • @Drawnartist
    @Drawnartist 2 роки тому +2

    Gundam is so outta the loop 😭
    Edit: the headset mic is a little too loud drinker my friend

  • @MrEmpireBuilder0000
    @MrEmpireBuilder0000 8 місяців тому

    The one role Oscar Isaacs really shone was in Denis Vilenue's Dune. Gotta say he was a badass Leto Atreides. Of course, he shared the same fate as Sean Bean's Ned Stark but those were really great roles to inhabit.