Plus adobe financially compensated their stock photographers when firefly first came out for being able to train firefly on their images. The compensation structure was very convoluted and complicated, but I always feel that I should support a company that supports its creatives.
I've been playing around with Stable Diffusion (ComfyUI) for random stuff and learning how it all works, but always kick back to Photoshop with the generative fill for serious stuff. It's incredible for photo restoration where portions of photos may be ripped out or scraped off. Managed to do most of my grandpa's communion photo from the 1920s - "crumble in my hands" old and a good 15-20% of the photo missing - with unprompted generative infill. Feels weird hyping Adobe but from what I've seen Firefly is really a perfect counterpoint to most of the anti-AI arguments I've seen.
The ethics of Adobe (as ironic as that sentence is) makes it the main reason why I use firefly. I don't have to worry about the sourcing of training data, which is a valuable advantage.
The credit system is a disgrace. We already pay a subscription and they don't make the credit system clear until you click click click and discover it.....
I just played with it. What I think is great is it’s a great tool to at very least stimulate my imagination for my paintings. I want to see how it can help me improve my initial covert sketches , clear my creative block and inspire compositions for my paintings on panel. Playing with firefly today just to experiment is already helping think about how I want to evolve my art concept . My hope is it will also help me create paintings in less time and reduce frustrations that occur with my process . I’m excited I can upload my own sketches .going to play more and see what happens . I’ve kept some of the experiments I did just with my crazy prompts more as inspiration.
I have a noob question about Firefly, and apologies if this is not the right platform to ask on - if you create a character image, say for an illustration in a book, can you generate subsequent images from that image to show various expressions like fear, joy etc, and from differing points of view. I have noticed with Firefly, that even though you input same prompts the images, although similar, can vary a great deal from your reference image. Is there a way to control this? thx
Thank you so much. I'm looking into creating clip art and I'm overwhelmed by the amount of platforms that I can use to generate images. Liked and subscribed x
Great stuff thanks so much as I had been unsure about the whole rights thing - doing personal work, testing ideas, concepting and ideation I use whichever tool I think does a fabulous job but for commercial work ive always been a bit worried putting stuff out there so it was really cool to see your video today on this topic as whilst I heard before Adobe had come at the AI generation with a sensible rights allowed angle, hearing this again from you has made a difference to my approach going forward. And whilst Adobe stock trained AI will mean some less range of image creation compared to say LEonardo, Dalle3, Midjourney, being able to tell a client that the images are all commercially viable is a big plus!
how do you create a larger than 2 meg image in Firefly or do you have to transfer the AI generated image to firefly . . . ps thanks for the great explanation video
Do you know how to get Firefly to make a composition that is not symmetrical? I’ve tried giving it instructions in the prompt like asymmetrical, not symmetrical, not centered, etc, and it never works. Thanks.
You could upload an outline sketch of the image they way you wan it compositionally and use it as a stricture reference in it. I just saw a video come up on you tube with someone showing how . Very cool .
The only thing Adobe Firefly is good for is generating images which conform to a given structure otherwise it’s model is still very far behind with image quality compared to other tools, you need an AI upscaler to further improve the image quality for images generated in Firefly. You have tools like Midjourney which are more advanced when it comes to detailed & accurate imagery
but now i can't have the generative fill interact with MY IMAGE by going the quick mask, filling with a percent of gray, leaving quick, put in my prompt and watch the generative fill INTERACT with MY IMAGE. I SHURE HOPE ADOBE DOES NOT TAKE AWAY THIS FEATURE as they have with the Beta version
It produces terrible results for me and whenever I try to edit people images, the censorship steps in and removes 80% of my tries without any logical reason. I get a lot better results with stable diffusion.
Elements of Adobe’s Firefly are found in Photoshop Beta 2024. This is free to use, but restricted small composition sizes to generate images. Given this you may need to use a third party app’ to upscale generated images. For the full Adobe Firefly suite of apps, or tools, the consumer pays a monthly fee that includes hundreds of credits. These credits equal the number of images generated. Some say it is only a matter of time before Adobe release Firefly for After Effects. AE’s Content Aware Fill is a hint of what is to come.
The image quality is fine for social media not for print media or packaging industry. Even the 2000pix it is upscaled from 1000pix and when color correcting in cmyk print profiles or do GCR you get big pixel compresión on your image. Firefly is still not suited for print industrie. Better invest in shutterstock images or be creative in foto studio 😊
It's too expensive, adobe is more for business users, not for hobby, and for fun, so it's completely useless. I have nothing against them, I tried the first beta, and it's great, but when someone is more for money, than to enable a wider audience with a smaller budget who want pictures for entertainment, social networks and so on, then ADOBE is the last tool that people should use use. Thank God there are similar tools, which are practically free, that's why I say that Adobe PS belongs to the useless group.
If you're so unhappy about the price, you can learn how to pirate safe versions my friend, I've never paid for any piece of software, look in the r/piracy megathread
Thank you for this informative video. I, too, have avoided using the other pirate happy AI models - sooner or later an enterprising lawyer is going to figure out exactly how to drive a stake into the hearts of the latter-day robber barons and there will be hell to pay. The fact they actually think they have a right to steal other people's work tells us all we need to know about their business model and ethics (or rather lack thereof) and why they should be avoided like the plague.
Dude people love LowJourney but it’s a poop interaction/ui still using Discord, even if you’re a paying member, but most important is how schizophrenic these AI generators are. Even if I copy the exact same prompt as an example; Panda on orange couch, etc… shit will come up with a hippo doing yoga at a rock concert or something. NEVER remotely close. Firefly you can actually work with an image!!!! and the MOST IMPORTANT is the UI. It’s like watching 8k vs 80s Betamax. 😂
(the Only AI Image Generator You Should Use??) Adobe is so very afraid of generating an offensive image..... FF3 is nice but too many other generators blow them out of the water... and don't have the kindergarten restrictions
Tried this firefly nonsense total pain in the you know what, kept getting this stupid pop-up every time I clicked anything that said uh oh something went wrong very annoying. You would think Adobe would be able to come up with something better, their generative fill absolutely sucks. There's got to be something better out there than Adobe firefly.
Why should I use a crippled censored AI? No thanks. Adobe always took great features from other software and copied it, even from tools like gimp and now from Stable Diffusion. Stable Diffusion had inpainting, Outpainting and similar features and is a lot more specialized with all the cool LoRa and models than Firefly will ever be. So again... why should I cripple my creativity using Adobe? Obviously you are not the right person to talk about these things when you are not indepth on the topic here.
Firefly generates horrible images. I tried "Venus emerging from the sea" hoping to get something with a classical look. The Firefly images were garish. Picsart nailed it, generating images that were stunningly creative and beautiful. Firefly has so many restrictions so as not to offend that it generates anodyne images and won't generate many images that it finds violative for some unknown reason.
For people who work with artistic nudes and sensual shoots, I don't recommend Photoshop and its acclaimed Generative Fill. As much as I don't want to photoshop anyone's clothes, it can't understand that and blocks most of my requests. This makes me extremely angry. Adobe Artificial Intelligence still has a lot to learn. He's still very dumb.
![I Replaced ALL my ADOBE APPS with these [free or cheaper] Alternatives!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5EfqHg49kMk/mqdefault.jpg)
Plus adobe financially compensated their stock photographers when firefly first came out for being able to train firefly on their images. The compensation structure was very convoluted and complicated, but I always feel that I should support a company that supports its creatives.
This installer is didn't wоrk nоw, а new version was published on my channel
I've been playing around with Stable Diffusion (ComfyUI) for random stuff and learning how it all works, but always kick back to Photoshop with the generative fill for serious stuff. It's incredible for photo restoration where portions of photos may be ripped out or scraped off. Managed to do most of my grandpa's communion photo from the 1920s - "crumble in my hands" old and a good 15-20% of the photo missing - with unprompted generative infill.
Feels weird hyping Adobe but from what I've seen Firefly is really a perfect counterpoint to most of the anti-AI arguments I've seen.
This installer is didn't wоrk nоw, а new version was published on my channel
The ethics of Adobe (as ironic as that sentence is) makes it the main reason why I use firefly. I don't have to worry about the sourcing of training data, which is a valuable advantage.
We'll see how the 5% is handled in the courts tho
The credit system is a disgrace. We already pay a subscription and they don't make the credit system clear until you click click click and discover it.....
WOW, that's really buried deep. And I had no idea before your comment, thank you!
Hate credit system drip killing your account
I just played with it. What I think is great is it’s a great tool to at very least stimulate my imagination for my paintings. I want to see how it can help me improve my initial covert sketches , clear my creative block and inspire compositions for my paintings on panel. Playing with firefly today just to experiment is already helping think about how I want to evolve my art concept . My hope is it will also help me create paintings in less time and reduce frustrations that occur with my process . I’m excited I can upload my own sketches .going to play more and see what happens . I’ve kept some of the experiments I did just with my crazy prompts more as inspiration.
I have a noob question about Firefly, and apologies if this is not the right platform to ask on - if you create a character image, say for an illustration in a book, can you generate subsequent images from that image to show various expressions like fear, joy etc, and from differing points of view. I have noticed with Firefly, that even though you input same prompts the images, although similar, can vary a great deal from your reference image. Is there a way to control this? thx
I would also like to know the answer too this matter.
Thank you so much. I'm looking into creating clip art and I'm overwhelmed by the amount of platforms that I can use to generate images. Liked and subscribed x
Does it have a seed? Can it generate consistent photos?
This looks insanely useful for graphic designers and photoshop. Jeeeeeze.
Thank! Very informative. I have a question please. Where can I find my old generated images on firefly (free account)?
Thank you for all the great enlightening info!
Great stuff thanks so much as I had been unsure about the whole rights thing - doing personal work, testing ideas, concepting and ideation I use whichever tool I think does a fabulous job but for commercial work ive always been a bit worried putting stuff out there so it was really cool to see your video today on this topic as whilst I heard before Adobe had come at the AI generation with a sensible rights allowed angle, hearing this again from you has made a difference to my approach going forward. And whilst Adobe stock trained AI will mean some less range of image creation compared to say LEonardo, Dalle3, Midjourney, being able to tell a client that the images are all commercially viable is a big plus!
how do you create a larger than 2 meg image in Firefly or do you have to transfer the AI generated image to firefly . . . ps thanks for the great explanation video
But dose Midjourney not also give you the user rights?
how can i create cinematic look images? ideogram is the one who make it best for this specific task ... unlees you can achive the same with firefly
What’s the cost? Breakdown?
Do you know how to get Firefly to make a composition that is not symmetrical? I’ve tried giving it instructions in the prompt like asymmetrical, not symmetrical, not centered, etc, and it never works. Thanks.
You could upload an outline sketch of the image they way you wan it compositionally and use it as a stricture reference in it. I just saw a video come up on you tube with someone showing how . Very cool .
Great video, will try it later. playing with Stylar now, or any tips for that?
Great info. Everyday, I dig, I find a bit more important information.
The only thing Adobe Firefly is good for is generating images which conform to a given structure otherwise it’s model is still very far behind with image quality compared to other tools, you need an AI upscaler to further improve the image quality for images generated in Firefly. You have tools like Midjourney which are more advanced when it comes to detailed & accurate imagery
Super useful dude, thanks!
This installer is didn't wоrk nоw, а new version was published on my channel
but now i can't have the generative fill interact with MY IMAGE by going the quick mask, filling with a percent of gray, leaving quick, put in my prompt and watch the generative fill INTERACT with MY IMAGE. I SHURE HOPE ADOBE DOES NOT TAKE AWAY THIS FEATURE as they have with the Beta version
Thanks for the info 💜
Welcome!
Thanks for the summary
Great video, Is there a video that shows you how to ai your personal photos on your channel ?
i don't want to generate photos, but i want automatic editing / what adobe suite product is the best for that please?
This installer is didn't wоrk nоw, а new version was published on my channel
Only 2 questions, is it possible to create xxx images for personal entertainment; the second question, are the images created unlimited per month?
Awesome video, thanks for the info!
This installer is didn't wоrk nоw, а new version was published on my channel
Nicely done!
Super helpful. Thank you.
Nice coverage of the ethical side of the symbiotic creator element. Hopefully we can all live, happily ever after!
Beautiful video but you did not mention the cost…
It produces terrible results for me and whenever I try to edit people images, the censorship steps in and removes 80% of my tries without any logical reason. I get a lot better results with stable diffusion.
If only we didn’t have to purchase generative credits 🤦🏻♀️
I love adobe but hate their subscription fee😄
Thank you for this, very helpful
Great video, but I laughed at you changing the girl into a dog. I have a feeling she's old news. 🤣😂🤣😂
I wonder if the Photoshop Firefly has the exact same options as the Adobe Firefly? which one to use to get the best out of it? any thought on that?
Elements of Adobe’s Firefly are found in Photoshop Beta 2024. This is free to use, but restricted small composition sizes to generate images. Given this you may need to use a third party app’ to upscale generated images.
For the full Adobe Firefly suite of apps, or tools, the consumer pays a monthly fee that includes hundreds of credits. These credits equal the number of images generated.
Some say it is only a matter of time before Adobe release Firefly for After Effects. AE’s Content Aware Fill is a hint of what is to come.
Can't use it for anything. Its patented. Firefly does not create its own image; it takes it from someone.
Not sure you watched the video
The image quality is fine for social media not for print media or packaging industry. Even the 2000pix it is upscaled from 1000pix and when color correcting in cmyk print profiles or do GCR you get big pixel compresión on your image. Firefly is still not suited for print industrie. Better invest in shutterstock images or be creative in foto studio 😊
It's too expensive, adobe is more for business users, not for hobby, and for fun, so it's completely useless. I have nothing against them, I tried the first beta, and it's great, but when someone is more for money, than to enable a wider audience with a smaller budget who want pictures for entertainment, social networks and so on, then ADOBE is the last tool that people should use use. Thank God there are similar tools, which are practically free, that's why I say that Adobe PS belongs to the useless group.
That's why we have pirated versions
Could you suggest the other free tools?
@@mihajlooz3694 Ali piratske verzije ne rade za generiranje.
What are the free tools we can use if you don't mind sharing
If you're so unhappy about the price, you can learn how to pirate safe versions my friend, I've never paid for any piece of software, look in the r/piracy megathread
Ooo very early morning upload, something to watch before work 😎
Thank you! Good morning!
The rights can be a big deal
So there a heavy censorship huh?
Adobe’s stock is down 18% over the past year. Looks like throwing ai at everything isn’t working.
Thank you for this informative video. I, too, have avoided using the other pirate happy AI models - sooner or later an enterprising lawyer is going to figure out exactly how to drive a stake into the hearts of the latter-day robber barons and there will be hell to pay.
The fact they actually think they have a right to steal other people's work tells us all we need to know about their business model and ethics (or rather lack thereof) and why they should be avoided like the plague.
I swear they used to have a feature like this in Illustrator. Where did it go??
This is a great overview of the product and well done as always. However, no trip to the coffee shop? AI coffee just isn't the same. :)
Dump abode, you have pay every month to access your own data
nice
Dude people love LowJourney but it’s a poop interaction/ui still using Discord, even if you’re a paying member, but most important is how schizophrenic these AI generators are. Even if I copy the exact same prompt as an example; Panda on orange couch, etc… shit will come up with a hippo doing yoga at a rock concert or something. NEVER remotely close. Firefly you can actually work with an image!!!! and the MOST IMPORTANT is the UI. It’s like watching 8k vs 80s Betamax. 😂
(the Only AI Image Generator You Should Use??) Adobe is so very afraid of generating an offensive image.....
FF3 is nice but too many other generators blow them out of the water... and don't have the kindergarten restrictions
Another great video (even without coffee and a tour). It's amazing to see how good AI image generations is becoming.
Thank you so much for watching!
(I did have coffee in the video just didn't say ☕✅ 😂)
too much censorship, next
Tried this firefly nonsense total pain in the you know what, kept getting this stupid pop-up every time I clicked anything that said uh oh something went wrong very annoying. You would think Adobe would be able to come up with something better, their generative fill absolutely sucks. There's got to be something better out there than Adobe firefly.
Why should I use a crippled censored AI? No thanks. Adobe always took great features from other software and copied it, even from tools like gimp and now from Stable Diffusion. Stable Diffusion had inpainting, Outpainting and similar features and is a lot more specialized with all the cool LoRa and models than Firefly will ever be. So again... why should I cripple my creativity using Adobe?
Obviously you are not the right person to talk about these things when you are not indepth on the topic here.
If this was meant to be a "how to" you missed the mark.
Firefly generates horrible images. I tried "Venus emerging from the sea" hoping to get something with a classical look. The Firefly images were garish. Picsart nailed it, generating images that were stunningly creative and beautiful. Firefly has so many restrictions so as not to offend that it generates anodyne images and won't generate many images that it finds violative for some unknown reason.
For people who work with artistic nudes and sensual shoots, I don't recommend Photoshop and its acclaimed Generative Fill. As much as I don't want to photoshop anyone's clothes, it can't understand that and blocks most of my requests. This makes me extremely angry. Adobe Artificial Intelligence still has a lot to learn. He's still very dumb.
It’s for kids projects
Very interesting and innovative beyond my imagination
and don't for get the free watermark with every image....
its 2024 and ai is here... get over it already Adobe!
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Adobe is garbage ...ha better program for cheap or free
so sad we can only do 25 times free i hate payed stuff
generating those images has a cost and the software is not written by volunteers….
Lol. Free for all?
"payed stuff" is basically everything, from food, clothes, to electricity, to softwares 😅
The developers at Adobe need to put food on the table