Why The Hamilton/Russell F1 Battle Could Get Messy
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- The 2024 F1 Belgian Grand Prix was a thriller. George Russell's gamble to one-stop initially paid of as he won the race, but he was later disqualified for being below the weight limit. On the other side of the garage, Lewis Hamilton had controlled the race perfectly from start to finish, but was pretty annoyed to find out his teammate had beaten him through an alternate strategy. In this video, we take a look into the radio messages between the drivers and engineers, and discuss why this won't be the last flashpoint between the two.
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So they tried to take Hamiltonian knowledge and experience and give it to Russell whilst denying Hamilton the use of his own idea.
Merc tried to pull a McLaren strategy under Hamilton’s nose. If it was the McLaren’s going long they would have told him, but because it’s his teammate why would they.
Merc just pissed off the betting complains.
i'm a merc, but imma throw shades at them real quick.
1. it's making sense about how Russell had been ahead of Lewis in quali and races this season. They've been putting just about enough fuel in Russell's car; and opposite for Lewis.
Bad move by Merc with Russel because he doesn't manage his tyres as well as LEWIS.
This race just proved that he can...
@@professorzoom1497This race had lower deg than expected. Bono said so when Lewis came in to drop off his hards from the 2nd stint.
He did manage it better on Sunday
Most of drivers in top 8 who pitted for 2nd times had Hard of which had more life than closer to death.
@@professorzoom1497 Not really, because a few factors came into play. Russell's tyre management from all past races indicates he is poor with race pace. Russel chews up his tyres. In Spa no one really chewed up their tyres.
Reason why Lewis has won championships and so many races is because he refuses to lose his head.
He could have gone hard on George, risking a collision, but thought against it to preserve a P2 so he could get the pts. Yet by providence, he got more!
I’m glad you brought up Toto’s face, felt very odd given a 1-2
Imagine calling yourself tyre whisperer when your 8 time teammate is ACTUALLY a tyre whisperer
Or imagine calling yourself the tyre whisperer when Stroll did almost the same stint as you 😂
😂😂😂@@Shifftee
Or imagine the 6 time wdc + 1 stolen from Nico, the worst teamate complaining about strategy 😂😂
@@user-yt7jb7kk1i that’s one of the stupidest comment on the internet. Which one is stolen from Rosberg, aka the one born with silver spoon. For all what’s worth, it was Hamilton who was robbed by Mercedes in 2016 by car failures which only hit his side of the garage and Mercedes deciding to swap Hamilton mechanics with Rosberg.
Don’t forget Hamilton was robbed in broad day light by the FIA own admission in 2021.
So in reality, Hamilton is 9 time wdc. And don’t bring up 2008, that’s down to Renault cheating to give Bitterlonso a win and Ferrari incompetence and Massa lack of awareness by forgetting the hose and driving with hastily with the hose still attached.
@@Shifftee Exactly.
Lewis actually said it was before the race even started that he said he wanted to do a 1 stop and they told him no he couldn’t that was before the race not during 2:13
Do what's the difference he told them he wanted one stop they said no what is the point you trying to make sir
Look mate ! Totos face at the end said it all!!!
Why did Mercedes allow themselves to look so bad in the media 👀 ,because of GEORGE RUSSELL,,I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK ANYMORE, LEWIS YOU ARE ALONE FIGHTING YOUR OWN BATTLE..JUST KEEP ON PUSHING THEY CANT STOP YOU YOU ARE THE FACE OF F1 AND EVERYONE KNOWES THAT...
LET THEM KNOW HOW YOU GET THERE ..IT WASN'T EASY SO ALL THAT IS COMING INTO PLAY....
😂
Lewis Hamilton was able to overtake Lecrec so why did Mercedes panic about the under cut from Lecrec
Lets just face it, Hamilton had just the same problems with the team when Rosberg won his only title.
If not for his puncture on the second last lap of the 2010 Spanish GP, then Hamilton finishes the race in 2nd behind Webber. Earns 18 points. Hamilton had finished the 2010 season with 240 points. Vettel was champion with 256 points (won the last race). 240 + 18 = 258 points. No puncture with two laps to go? Hamilton is 2010 champion with 5 points ahead of Vettel (who finished 4th rather than 3rd in Spain getting 12 points rather than 15).
The China pitstop debacle in 2007 when the team insisted he should stay out yet another lap led to the 2007 title being lost. Even so he only missed it by a single point being a rookie.
My point it wasn't his fault his team kept him out way too long in China in 2007, why he had a puncture with just 2 more laps to go in the Spanish GP in 2010 and why his power unit went up in smoke in the 2016 Malaysian GP with just 16 more laps to go while he was in the lead... So if not for those unfortunate events/bad luck...
I won't even go into Masi's controversial (putting it mildly) decision at Abu Dhabi.
@@McLarenMercedesspot on you hit the target 🎯 with every point made and I’ve always felt Lewis should be 10 champion at the moment based on the times he sabotaged by both McLaren and Mercedes!
@@McLarenMercedes 2021 would have been Hamiltons 12 th title. 2025 he would be clinching his 16th. But with all the snakes in F1 over the years.... Spa just revealed the sabotage that he has had to deal during MOST OF HIS F1 CAREER.
Most definetly
The question is how long this illegal car exist since? Is this the reason of Russell's advantage to Ham in Q battle? The way Russell's team didn't fully empty the fuel tank shed something about they tried to game the system.
George’s advantage in qualifying has been thoroughly explained by Mercedes & for once I believe them.
Can any of you give another example where the team changes the strategy to put their slower driver in front of the their leading driver to win the race. Quote in china nico is leading the race, Lewis ‘I can do a one stopper’ team ‘we don’t do that here Lewis’ when the strategy is agreed on the morning it is never changed to assist one driver over the other period.
This public embarrassment for Mercedes and Russell is an eye opener.
Lewis said that you have to trust the team and that is the same for Russell where his side of the garage decided that because he was out qualified by his team mate, the only way to beat Lewis was to change strategy......they did but with a twist as Russell request a one stop which was already in their plan.....God is good
Lewis is always n1
Lewis is forever the #1 at that team lol he’s the reason they’re as famous as they are rn and they’re gonna lose a ton of fans to Ferrari next year too so I’d say no drama for top seat lol
44 will no longer rely on his team strategist. He'll just do whatever he knows that is best for him.
I don't know how people can defend Mercedes at all, Lewis literally made them to what they are, there would've been such a successful Mercedes F1 team without Lewis Hamilton.
In return they screwed him over year by year, simply because Red Bull beat them once.
It's not Lewis Hamilton who's lost his spirit, skill-set and determination, it's rather Mercedes themselves.
That is exactly what I was telling other fans. You hit the nail on the head. I tried to explain to them it’s how Mercedes handled the situation. Lewis drove the best out there. George “saw” an opportunity. Instead of telling George knowing that Lewis was faster not to fight it, they told Lewis and only Lewis as far as I’m concerned to give each other room. If that were Russel, he would’ve been the quickest to be asked for a let by. Instead he made up his mind he was going to fight. George hasn’t priced he can beat Lewis. I believed in him at one point. But I no longer do. Selfish prick.
Glad you're back making content on YT bro
Just finished uni so pumping them out! Thanks for the patience!
Did you erase my comment ??
@BMPHF1 As a current student at uni, I can relate to content being on hold haha! Congratulations man 🍻
" just finished uni " congratulations, you were seriously missed, welcome back
👍
As fans we might want to leave the drivers to it, but as a team they fucked up. George should have let Lewis through, lewis was about as fast as Oscar until he caught George, then oscar closed the gap in juat a few laps. A huge unessasery risk, especially since as a team you shouldn't take the win from one driver via strategy. That doesn't sit well.
Lewis had a chance at the end of the kemmel straight to overtake on one lap, and if it wasn't his teammate im certain he'd have gone for it, but it would have been a risky move when the team had a 1/2 on the cards.
Also the team seemed to have weighted the car for a two stop, they say they lost the weight in tyre wear, Lewis apparently talked about a one stop before the race but the models said it was a good idea. Merc should have never said George could try it knowing they hadn't prepared for it. They got greedy and lost the 4th or 5th he could have had.
I think Toto's face at the end was because him and Lewis both went through 14-16 and he know that mercs line is that drivers get the same strategy and in Lewis's eye from all hes been through in the team, he should have been let through as George was only infront because of the team and not because he was faster.
The funny thing is a similar thing happened in Japan 2019
Lewis started in 5th and VB in third
VB got the best start in f1 history and jumped both Ferraris ahead
Lewis after a few laps was third
Between the 2 was vettel
Lewis could have done a 1 stop and win whilst VB would have finished second and maximum points for the team (everyone else in the top group did the 2 stop btw )
But with 11 laps to go (lap 43/53) and still decent pace (I think it was 0,5 slower than VB whilst he was managing ) they pulled him in he fall behind seb and Suzuka is very difficult to overtake on (especially with the 2019 gen cars) and he only finished 3rd
So they lost 3 pts because of that cause VB outqualified him and Lewis couldn’t make enough progress on the normal strat
With George now they don’t care😂😂
Crazy how Lewis is getting f***** by his own team
Na, Merc was trying to play Lewis!
They tried to screw over Hamilton, but karma came along and said ' Nope, not today!'
Coping much??.
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They didn't screw over LH.. GR, a relative amateur, took a bold call and it paid off... And LH, a supposedly 7 time WDC, neither had the balls nor the brain to probably even think of risking such a strategy... 😂😂😂😂
@@NemysisPrime
I think what Rus and the team did in the last few laps, risking Piastri reaching/passing Ham because he was holding Ham behind (Ham who actually fought for the 1st place with Perez, Leclerc and was faster) was off.
Also, tyre whisperer? Didn't Stroll do the same thing? 1 pit stop? He went from 15 to 10, the same number of positions Rus gained by staining out. They all had minimum tyre deg, much lighter than expected.
I also can't help but wonder, in the beginning of this season and other seasons as well, how much did Rus experimented with setups and everything to try and help the team improve the car and how much did Ham?
I think one may have been more involved and capable of doing that than the other.
George is a good driver but lets look at the overall picture.
Piastri is beating Norris and people are not hating on him, I wonder why?
@NemysisPrime I think you've misunderstood. lewis wanted to attempt 1-stop but was told to pit instead, whereas GR was presented with both options by his race coordinator. both raced well tho and it's a shame that mercs did a McLaren's cosplay. supposedly joyous occasion for 1-2 tainted
@@NemysisPrime You are just show how much of a dumb as^ you are. Hamilton wanted to go longer on both his runs, he knew his tyres were fine ( still had loads of grip left on em when he boxed ) But was told both time by his team to come in. They didn't tell him GR was thinking about a one stop and they never told him GR might be a threat to his race. Had they done that Hamilton would of 100% stayed out longer and did a one stop. The only thing Hamilton is guilty of is trusting his team to have his back!
If that was any other team on the grid, they would of been warning him well in advance of the pace and threat of Russell. The team didn't do that... I wonder why 🤔
@@florinas9103 👍 100% Ham trusted the team and the team let him down again... Thank god he is off to Ferrari next year, was the right call.
Toto was puttin on a act, he is on GRs side, dont be fooled
Sorry to say but Russell wasnt really a tyre whisperer if you buy the explanation that his tyres truly lost much much more tread than others like Lewis.
Personally there's no way its the whole explanation, unless you say he was actually pushing his tyres most of the race, not whispering them. Alonso and Stroll did 31/32 laps, just a couple fewer than George and still managed to be legal, so i dont think its the whole answer.
I read elsewhere someone asked the team and they daid ir was tyre wear and a worn plank was the rest.
Did they check the plank was legal? I also read elsewhere the "FIA was silent on other checks other than to say "The impressive five-page scrutineering document released by the FIA post-race, as per usual, is silent on measuring plank wear other than Leclerc’s Ferrari being randomly selected for extra physical checks which I would assume includes the plank.". This is from an article written by Marin Brundle.
What does this (above quote) mean? Was there something more untoward going on? Why is the FIA silent on measuring plank wear? Did Russell fail that too? Weird...
I did hear elsewhere some was thought to be plank wear, on F1 technical someone posted that someone asked the team and they said it was tyre AND plank wear. Take woth a pinch of salt as it is anecdotal.
Also this could have ended in tears for Mercedes with Piastri catching. It was a daft risk iki for the team result. Imagine George and Lewis squabble, Piastri gets past Lewis, Russell wins but gets DSQ. They'd basically have lost the win TWICE in one day to Oscar with Lewis as well.
Tbh it was George's own greed that partially cost him here. He was running fifth, sometimes better, sometimes worse most of the race.
They basically screwed Lewis here. He had just set the fastest lap, maybe two laps by 4 tenths, yet they brought him in to cover Charles anyway. With that pace he orobabky had him covered, bur two stops may have protected him winning in hindsight.
Still I felt it was a bit dodgy they overruled Lewis yet let George do whatever. The right guy won and I was defending Russell's drive before the underweight car was known, but sadly the guy in an illegal car doesnt deserve to win.
It is never unfortunate that a guy in a legal car wins the race though, this business has took the shine out of a great drive by Lewis. A real shame, and a lesson that risky strategies are risky for a reason.
I have a few conspiracy theories, too. Remember when Lewis said the tire temperature was off on his Mercedes (sabotage), and Toto called the police. Could it be that Lewis was right, and now Mercs, no, they cannot mess with his car because Lewis will know the difference. So instead, they decide to give Russell a lighter car to help him become the Merc's number 1 driver for next year. This is my hot take/conspiracy theory...
@@grospipo20 i think you are right.
Toto claimed he would have sacrificed Russell if the race went one more lap…🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩. If there was one more lap Piastri would have moved around both of them like a slow motion replay…I don’t understand how 1 stopping your supposed teammate does anything other than create division that will only grow with the entire summer break for this negative strategy to metastasize throughout the second half of the season. Not a good look. How do you virtually 1,2 a race and ultimately lower the morale across BOTH sides of your team?!?! Smells like 2016 all over again. I guess if you don’t learn from the past it will inevitably repeat itself… Resolve this now to maintain the momentum after the break. 🏁🐐🏅🏅🏅🏅🏅🏅🏅🏅🏁
I am beginning to wonder who is the real nightmare team mate between Russel and Ocon.
They’re not very different
Lewis was told to give plenty of space, George was not!
To tell Lewis, the cleanest F1 driver of all, to give space, is a bloody joke! No wonder he was upset and didn’t speak to Bono post race 🤬
@Lewishamiltonprivat3 England
It probably will get messy if MB keeps playing the sort of underhand games they did at Belgium, I'd still like to know if where the weight loss was, I really think they were trying underweight components on Russell and him insisting on one stop meant they were going to be weighed.
they have to make russel look good... remember da goat is leavin!!!
Car 44, 44 laps and disqualification document 44. Toto, George is no tyre whisperer is he? It's Lewis that has the better stats for tyre management and previous outright race wins because of it. He is the original tyre whisperer, not George. Toto please show some respect to Sir Lewis Hamilton. Two drivers different tyre strategies and Lewis still won even when you and George blind-sided him. It's like divine intervention - be careful 😮
Lewis is the GOAT
A Goat and a Diva
@@pietervanbreda4360 🤣 keep crying
@@pietervanbreda4360keep crying
@@louisbeerreviews8964keep crying😜🖕
He’s Dutch. His comment is all but a surprise.
What happened?
Isn't it pretty obvious?
Russel is a snake!
He only made that call for a one stop once he knew Lewis was in the box for the second time.
Ok some may call that clever, but it was no clean move towards his team-mate by any stretch of the Imagination.
Beeing given the win later through Russels disqualifikation, will still not make Lewis happy, as he wants to win on the track and not at the green table!
Toto Wolf had that look on his face because he knew they screwd Lewis!
I don't think intentionally, as they probably thought Lewis would get Russel anyway, but i think they underestimated the tyre wear Lewis would have having to catch up and at the same time having to fend off Piastri.
in a race the only thing a driver cares about is himself.
snake for not telling his teammate before piting, its a race not a meeting
@@ovrk9439 To inform Hamilton of what is going on, with other parts of the race is the teams job! It's the teams responsibility to keep Hamilton informed of anything that might effect his race, as they can see what's going on else where, Hamilton can't. This is on the team 100% Lewis trusted them they let him down!
Least they could've done is get Russell to let Lewis through, especially since Lewis had fought hard to control the race. Russell is a cheat, trying to steal p1 from underneath his teammate's nose! Alas, God did the final judgement and not even Toto can help Russell in that case!
@@ovrk9439are you nuts? 🔩 so teams shouldn’t tell each other what’s going on? So why was Russell told Lewis is in the pits? Some of you people are shocking how biased you are. Is this racism or lack of knowledge of the sport?
I can’t actually tell anymore. Same for the commentators. Nasty people.
@@wilton999 if you mean drivers of the same team then it depends but in this situation no because only 2 drivers did it for a reason (risky) and for a team to commit with both drivers on it is retarded some of you people just look at the result and start running your mouth from there like the strategists had the same amount of information and everything is on purpose.
damn, i was talking about cars racing eachother now i am accused of being a racist, people with your character are repulsive.
Toto look guilty it was all over is face
Russell.... the slime-ball team mate 😂😂😂
LH fans are wild.
Lewis Hamilton the Muhammad Ali of F1 ! Alone against everybody !!!!!! The greatest ! Today God has corrected the verdict !!!
He more like Jack Roosevelt Robinson
Yeah, this business has taken away the shine of a great drive by Lewis. It's still all moping about George.
What did Martin Brundle mean by this? He said "The impressive five-page scrutineering document released by the FIA post-race, as per usual, is silent on measuring plank wear other than Leclerc’s Ferrari being randomly selected for extra physical checks which I would assume includes the plank."
Was something else going on and George's plank was illegal as well? For once something actually went right for Lewis.
Funny how the team were ok with George doing a one stop and not Lewis. He'd just done fastest lap by a decent margin (4 tenths or so) too, so maybe felt covering Charles so soon was unnecessary.
Still, glad he two stopped in hindsight, but whether he'd be underweight if one stopping can't be known. It's possible the clean air would help him look after his tyres and pace, or they may have been different weights anyway idk. Russell gambled and lost, his decision cost him in the end.
Also nobody mentions how much Russell must have pushed rather than whispered his tyres if they believe the rubber theory. Aston drivers one stopped and did similar stints to Russell and were fine, plus that extra fuel meant he ran rich, could do less lift and coast and full on push all race. Some of that was obtained from F1 technical.
Good thing god did right back in 2021 😂
In 2021 God also corrected
Lewis is a great driver but u don’t need to glaze him
Can we imagine what was going through Hamiltons head when Russell jumped in his seat, as he was benched with covid in 2020?
Because of Russell trying so hard to impress, prepared fertile ground for Hamilton haters to scoff, "it's just the car", that was all Mercedes fault. Fast forward to qualifying in Brasil 22, Russell on his last run, beached his car in the gravel, bringing out yellow flags, just to prevent Hamilton from getting pole. I can understand him wanting to prove himself, but can we imagine Ferrari in 2006 allowing Massa to race against a 7x wdc Schumacher in such a disrespectful manner?
Then why is Mercedes allowing it.?
Black, that's why
HAMILTON SHOULD NOT TRUST ANYONE IN THAT TEAM, NOT EVEN HIS BELOVED BONO. HE IS MUCH TO BLAME THAN ANYONE ELSE, BECAUSE HE IS HIS ENGINEER AND SHOULD HAVE INFORMED HAMILTON WHAT GEORGE PLANED TO DO ONE STOP, IMMEDIATELY THEY GAVE GOERGE THE GO AHEAD.
Toto and murc did the same in 2016 to give Rusburg gave a championship and he shamed himself and toto murc then retired toto should have lurned from that never fuck over Sir Hamilton lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Georgie Porgie the Disqualified tirewhisperer eating humble tire pie
Think he needs to go to weight watchers.
I never disliked a F1 driver like I dislike George Russell. I know that type of guy really well. A snake in the grass, a little rat, a little weasel. I hope him and Mercedes keep getting that good karma like they did last weekend. They aren't fooling anybody we can see what they are doing.
💯 I love how you put it!
Agree, Russell and Norris are snakes, and Hamilton and Piastri are the best drivers in their respective teams. The teams always trying to favor them.
@@nestorlarez336 Well said
I will happily take the foil hat Russell is noooo tyre whisperer a gambler but not a whisperer that underweight car is part of a secret plot. And if it was an innocent miscalculation Mercedes need a new calculator ..
Toto wolff knows something is going wrong...
Lewis Hamilton definitely knows stupid Russell is going to be disqualify.. a 7 time world champion knows he doesn't need to overtakes Russell, because he already knows about the 1-stop consequences.. that's why there's NO aggressive overtaking Russell.
Two thing is achieved here..
1) Humiliating Russell's stupidity..!!
2) Russell losses every-single points.
3) Mercedes are also Humiliated for trying to cheat.!!
KARMA!
Hamilton shouldve won
Im glad he did
They tried to.cheat the system and it backfired... Simples. There is clearly no parity in the team but that's to be expected given the impending departure of LH. They are just not being honest about it but it is natural for them to side with GR.
The lack of smile on Toto 😮😮😮
He knew it wasn't right.
Why didn't Mercedes drain the fuel before sending it to the FIA? Did they not know? Not buying it
They come and take the fuel. Not the way around.
It's an odd one for sure. Splitting the strategy is not a new thing, teams do it all the time to cover different people
The decision to let them race was the biggest issue. At first, I thought they were going to use George to give Lewis the slipstream, then vice versa so they can guarantee beating piastri 🤷🏿♂️
Splitting strategies isn’t new but both drivers were told no one stopping before the race.
@@thekitowl Good point, but there are always plan b, c and d etc
I still find it odd, but I don't think there's foulplay on the strategy side. On the weight side however, I'm not sure
I must admit I found it very strange Toto didn't really react at all when they crossed the line and took the one two. they must have already known about the miscalculation before the race had even ended by measuring the amount of mass lost on the other tyres used in the race or something
Lewis said he had talked about the one stop with the team prior to the race, yet it was Russell that got the go ahead to one stop. You can see why they were more willing to risk GR as he had gone nowhere in the race, but LH should have been kept informed of the possibilities. It’s a shame to see LH serve out his time at Mercedes like this.
It ended well in end(on track atleast) but still dont understand why they risked a win when they were lockup away from Piastri taking them both. Would have been hilarious to see that happen.
To be honest, I don't see (gr63) as fit to be called a 'king' nor 'tyre whisperer,' he's more of a 'tyre eater' to me. I think that he's being hyped up way too much for whatever nefarious reason or agenda a particular sect of people may have... True Kings are honorable, this (gr63) character however, he's not a genuine bloke.... notice how (gr63) eyes deviates from the camera as he holds his head down while speaking of the great race which (lh44) drove.... all empty and meaningless words from someone who definitely CANNOT be trusted (G.R.) - 'Great-Britain's Rattlesnake'
(check him out in the post race conference)
congrats on finishing Uni and I'm loving the fast uploads!!! great stuff
Thanks mate! Will continue 🫡
I totally agree on the explanation of 'if the roles were reversed' George would have made a request to be allowed through by Hamilton; as that kind of message has been relayed before on more than a couple of occasions.
That’s the worst I’ve ever heard him talk about anyone, let alone the team. LH mad
😮 people don't talk about the real issues and wasn't that lewis needed to on one stop...the problem was they didn't lewis pass Russell that was a huge risk considering iscar pace no team will ever put a win in jeopardy like this
before i even watch this video ima just say ur tripping its not gonna get messy. lewis is leaving and merc is rly not in title contention despite being in win contention now
Fairs. Whatever happens doesn’t matter in the grand-scheme of things. Just for future races, could see similar scenarios occur.
Yeah, they'll fight each other from time to time and they'll have a few heated moments but it won't be anything new. It will be over and reset for the next race until Lewis leaves and that will be it.
There will be more fighting with fans than there will be on track lol.
@@BMPHF1Lewis is 34 points clear, unless he has a DNF he’ll finish ahead of Russell so this is a non story really
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks couldnt have put it better, theyre just in completely different situations with their careers
Bro? WTF!! Lost your job or something? Not used to so many routine uploads.
Finished uni 😂
@@BMPHF1Congrats 🙌
FERRARI F Merc
Where would it have end had Lewis not pitted prematurly. Would Lewis have had even more control over the race and assured win?
Mercedes mercedes mercedes 😂 wtf is happening over there lool that reaction by toto hints other backroom overlord conversations
King George isn't in any league to SLH
Races won King George 2 wins
SLH 105 wins
No comparison
Mercedes knew what they were doing!
F1 Fan Since 1976
...and MERCEDES AMG PETRONAS PITWALL told Lewis, only Lewis to give each other space!
We aren't stupid, we know what team orders are?
Lewis to ferrari, imagine if maurizio arrivabene was team principal, that would have been 💣💥
Honestly I think Toto let George have his way with the one stop to prove a point to him. Basically to say George you don’t know as much as you think you know.
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This is nothing new and from my memory this all started with a TV interview with a Major German computer company whom clearly stated that they would only sponsor Mercedes with German drivers. Prior to George joining I note the following instances including but not limited to the following..
Lewis Hamilton has faced several instances where team decisions or errors have impacted his race performance. Here are a few notable examples:
1. **2015 with 12 laps to go at the Monaco Grand Prix**: A late pit stop call cost him a certain victory.
2. **2016 Formula One Season**: Multiple reliability issues, including engine failures, affected his championship bid. But not his team mates vehicle.
3. **2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix**: A loose headrest forced an unscheduled pit stop, costing him a potential win.
4. **2021 Monaco Grand Prix**: Slow pit stops and strategy errors left him finishing in 7th place.
5. **2021 Turkish Grand Prix**: A late pit stop call led to a 5th place finish instead of a potential podium.
These are just a few instances, and there have been other moments throughout his career where team decisions have played a significant role in the outcome of his races.
This statement is ignoring the "covert racism" by Sky and Mercedes. Personally I believe someone above Toto is behind all of this and if you doubt me go back and look at the expression on Toto,s face at the end of the Spa race 2024. With his team coming in 1st and 2nd he looked miserable. Something is going on.
Both cars were fueled for a two stop race. If Russell had done the two stop
his car weight would have made the legal requirements BuT they were
gambling that a caution period would come and save them the additional fuel
That Would have been required if they had planned to do a one stop race.
Who’s here after they made contact at Monza?
Watch my prediction cook
make the video on piastri
Will! 🫡
If a piece of the car falls off during the race can they still be disqualified for being underweight?
They can replace it with an identical part at the end for weighing - all parts are homologated.
Vettel vs Leclerc 2.0?
I don't think it'll get as bad as that, but I agree that there will be flashpoints.
Ham should expect no less. He's leaving.
Cream rises to the top regardless
He is leaving because Mercedes forced him out. He has been loyal to the team but yet the team had no loyalty towards him. Mercedes shouldn’t be bitter. They wanted Lewis out, so why are they jealous and mad when he decided to leave ?
I dont think Lewis is coming back after the break.
0:07 Toto knew. Drivers are usually allowed one more in lap after the race in which they pickup left over rubber off the track to gain weight. After the race they immediately went into the pit entrance this time. That combined with Russell’s long stint, made the car underweight.
Mercedes say it wasn’t just the tyres.
Everyone goes back into the pits at Spa because it’s such a long lap. But that’s not why they were overweight
Toto ,Mercedes strategy, all eat smarty candy from George and there they go to 🚻 😊
Merc just continue to inflict Lewis with pains, over and over again..
Is it a CRIME to leave the team for another team?
All i would have said, you said it all
Damn, judging by the comments here, what they said about LH fans is true.
Everyone dogging on Russell for no reason.
Lewis Hamilton has the experience to tell Mercedes he doesn't want to pit, you know.
I am of the impression that Mercedes, only won seven titles, not eight, one with Rosberg, and six with a Lewis, Can anyone confirm.
That is what you get George
Look, I am a LH fan, but Mercedes' strategic calls made sense for him. They had to protect from the Undercut from Charles. For once, I don't agree with Lewis, he was clearly on a great strategy that enabled him to always stay ahead of rivals and have clean air. It's just that George's call was out of left field. George was not in it for the win for most of the race, why would Lewis' side consider him when they made their strategy calls?
In the end, it didn't matter because of the stewards' decision. And I get Lewis' reaction in the moment, probably felt robbed. But I don't think Merc had any malicious intent or showed favoritism towards Russell.
For sure. Having read through the radio messages, Lewis basically accepted the strategy the team put him on. And it was the correct one as you say.
I get that but they didn’t info him that he was racing Russell. And they didn’t give info when he entered the pits for a 2nd time that George was on a one stop. But I do agree with the fact that the strategy on the 2 stop was the right one
@@SwaggySimon20 because that wasn't in the plan, not even for Mercedes. They didn't believe Lewis or even George, that those tyres would keep performing, the projected deg was way lower than expected.
I agree with you that there's no way Merc tried to sabotage Lewis.
The problem is with the team managing the situation. When it was clear that Russell's call could be a race winner they should have communicated to both guys that that call was made to see if they could get a 1 2 and George should let Lewis pass because it wasn't fair to loose the race that way when he dominated the race from the 3rd lap.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks I understand that… But that still doesn’t take away from my point. They should’ve still informed Lewis from the jump about who he was racing. Regardless of if merc thought the one stop wasn’t plausible. Lewis should’ve been given that information considering the fact that he was in control for most of the race.
Hail Mary George was on strat mode six this the power he had over Hamilton.
My man had already left...😆😆😆
The problem is they under value SLH because he's leaving.. maybe if ToTo had shown more grit in 2021 SLH may have stayed. Everyone could see it was wrong, and true to form it's slowly coming out that it was. Stand by your man ffs. George is an OK driver not world class. He's no good under pressure. SLH is a seasoned Pro, and you didn't back him, so why should he stay.. MS and SV made the ferrari work even tho I wasn't the best car and I think SLH will do the same. You can't imagine the let down SLH felt in 2021. But in true Championship fashion he kept on going. The media didn't help they all supported MV, look at how max talks to his team. And the media are still making excuses for him, hes just rude. He's a disrespectful cry baby. Support the Best British F1 driver the world has ever seen. Jim Clark was good in his day. SLH is good today. It make me sick no matter how much we achieve it get down played. Jonny Herbert called it out and lost his media job.All the rest wanted to keep there's. Even DH treads carefully and look what MS did to him.. Sort it out and stop being Pu$$¥s.. 8X WC SLH British Driver GOAT. The whole paddock knows of the in justice did to SLH and Mercedes...
Russell is a coward. He caused that problem because he didn't want to fight MV for 5th place which reflected his race. So he ran away to mess up LH. It was bad team management.
both of them should just focus to get the constructor title. whoever gets to win races.
just like how U.S politic currently. regardless how evil the blue deepstate is, there are people in other part of the world will suffer more if trump wins. focus on the "greater good" thing.
besides, lewis will want to close his final season with his long time champion team with a high note, and try to get them the constructor title. thats what i would do if im in his shoes. george will have many wins coming for him in the future. so it doesnt matter who getting the race wins. so long they could get maximum points as much as they could.
the russel hate and teamLH glazing in ths comment is crazy
0:19 Mercedes AMG not Benz why do people keep mispronouncing them lol
I disagree. Russell did not deserve that win. If his car was legal then yes he would have deserved it. He is not good at tyre management and so it only worked here because the car was light.
If Hamilton would have one stopped, wouldn't his car been most likely underweight as well at the end of the race so he would have been disqualified too? Seems like this car weight rule really hinders taking chances like Russell took. Why can't FIA have a rule that states the car must weigh X amount at beginning of race instead of it cannot be under Y weight at end of race? The risk that Russell took made the race a lot more entertaining and also paid off (at least initially)...
The other cars that one stopped weren’t under weight.
My Dogg won.. I'm feeling good.
LOVE ❤️ HIM OR HATE HIM STILL SIR LEWIS HAMILTON IS THE KING 🤴 OF FORMEL1 AND NOBODY CAN TAKE IT OUT FROM HIM ❤❤❤
Stop Gaslighting! there was never any battle because Russel is not on the same level as Hamilton, stats already proves that, despite Mercedes doctoring Russel´s car to make it lighter,Hamilton is still outperforming him! just look what Hamilton did last season in a dog of a car.. Toto thought he could string Hamilton along with some putrid 1+1 year rolling contract and Hamilton outfoxed the wolf so now he's huffing and puffing..
See the shit was already messy people just got to pay attention and stop being reactionary when the obvious happens. it was messy from when the wolf in sheep clothing disrespected Hamilton by going back on his word of not following through and taking FIA and F1 to court to get back what was stollen from Hamilton in 2021.. and how could he when he got his own skeletons in his closet by being in bed with them and he also knows who stole Hamilton´s 2016 title and gave it to Rosberg he did not want that coming up in court.. he was stone face in the video because he knows he effed up again and dreaded another email being caught again red handed, because how many more excuses can one have when being caught out in the cold light of day..
there are no comparison since the car wasnt ilegal.. i never against someone greatness, and i wont also say that is not good enough, he is good, but well how can you compare someone who drove an ilegal to be compare to a driver that drove the legal car..for me, too bad for george, and i also wont give him any credit for him at spa because his dq,, its not george fault, its the team fault wheter its the strategy or underwight car..too bad,, i'm happy for lewis to win that race but yeah its all feel awkward and at the end also feels sorry for lewis because i know this is not the way he want to win a race..the win feels meaningless
1 kg is 3 tenths off a lap.
Sepisp4 is that you ???
Does anyone know what the consequences are if you defy team orders? So let’s say Lewis wanted to stay out and defy the orders to pit but went on to win what would happen?