@@SidVacant69 bro her and Michelle never met Michelle only new her bc she was an Iaa agent they never met and it’s not confirmed that Andreas was wearing a wire Eliabeta just speculated that
@@SidVacant69 It's actually Jorge, he only appears in GTA IV (in the packie mcreary mission, where we have to take care of him with the sniper, and I think he comes out on another mission but I'm not sure)
I like how Niko's only stake in all the major overarching storylines is like $10,000. Really shows how much of an outsider he is to not just America but even the criminal underworld. He's not fighting for gang supremacy, Or for the control of Liberty City's night clubs, He's literally just doing it for money. The fact that he starts as just a immigrant looking for some work, to literally the top hitman in Liberty City is so cool to me. He's my favorite GTA protagonist. And I'd say he's tied with Arthur Morgan as my favorite Rockstar protagonist.
Is it just me, or does IV feel like a more thought out and well designed game, at least story wise, than V? This game with all the upsides from V and SA and this game would be the best of the decade if not more!
Well, I recall a cutscene about Niko buying a gun courtesy of Dimitri. In it Niko says: "The mayor's got a hard on for gun control" I don't remember the exact conversation, but basically it points out that gun control is completely useless. So, yeah the script is written VERY well.
It's subjective. I personally never understood the hate GTA 5 is getting for the story. Whatever video about GTA 4 I watch there is always someone in the comments having an erection about the fact that GTA 4 has a bit darker story than GTA 5. Both stories are great in my opinion. I like that GTA 5 has such a different atmosphere that GTA 4. Such a drastic change works in GTA because GTA games are mostly unrelated to one another. Therefore having one feel completely different from the previous one works. I'm just saying that people are kinda getting annoying with complaining about GTA 5, because we all know both games have great stories that feel unique. And yes I am aware that I'm replying to a 2 year old comment.
@@alexaurum913 I think something both SA and IV did great was getting us attached to the protagonists. I didn't feel that for the characters in V and the story doesn't really give me an urge to replay it, like I've done countless times for the others. It IS subjective of course, the atmosphere in V is great and a good setting with a warm vibe. But that doesn't really make up for it feeling kinda cold otherwise.
I think Manny only wanted to clean up the streets so he can go back to his old ways and take them over, probably why he always took the credit from NiKo.
Loved gta 4 when it came out but thought 5 was another level. Now realising 4 was special. The characters. Story, atmosphere and liberty city still looks beautiful 13tears later. Effing masterpiece
Unbelievable that the GTA IV story arch will be fully a decade old by 2019. The base game is already 9, and you have to think of the character's. Niko was just 30 in 2008, and according to the wiki page, he'd be turning 40 next year. Even in gaming, age is kinda sedimental.
I know right, but at least shit like cops driver into the water and acting a bit stupid or funny makes the game so much better. I haven t played much of GTA V lately, but I did play some GTA IV or the other two storylines.. even though as "LIVE" part is no more.
13:18 I love how Niko stops for a moment and is just standing there, like saying, the hell they doing over there, when the patrol car dives into the river 😂
The reason I think Have a Heart still comes before all of the TLaD missions with Malc is bc Liz's first body guard is no longer there. He's turned states. If Have a Heart happens after all of the TLaD missions, then wouldn't he be there with Andre? Why all of a sudden she got a new body guard after Karen reveals herself? I think Liz just gets extremely paranoid after Karen's reveal, and for good reason bc she knows she's about to get taken down, but maybe the feds don't have all the evidence they need and let Liz incriminate herself even more as well as continue to collect info on her associates. We do know that the feds are looking into The Lost by this point and it would make some sense to let her keep operating to gather more info on The Lost. She then gets reckless as she continues to work with The Lost and the feds have to go ahead and arrest her before moving in on Billy and The Lost. Niko also never sees Marta who was very prominent in TLaD's cutscenes. This could be the only inconsitiency with the three stories of IV and EFLC, but I think the feds took their time collecting all the evidence, witnesses, and known associates as they could before taking her down. Liz knew it was coming, but not when.
If you look closely, on the back of malcs jacket is the uptown riders symbol. In gta 5, Franklin also owns one of these jackets, which probably explains why he's so good at operating motorcycles.
It was never clearly said that Packie was buying coke (but we assume that because he is addicted to it), and anyway the "coke" in that deal is not bought or sold by Liz and has no story behind it (like the coke in the missions "Liquidize the Assets" and "Catch the Wave" that also had coke it them).
GTA IV is one of my all time favorite games along with original Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid on PSOne. Def digging your videos! They bring back good memories. TY for all your hard work on posting them.
Watching this video bummed me out about Johnny dying in Gta 5! He was one of my favorite characters, he was a badass biker, but in gta 5 they killed him off in a way that makes him look like a pussy, by crying on trevor's shoulder, then getting his face stopped in.
If you sneak up the back to the old hospital, climb up the ladder and collect the package that way; the gangs will fight the police when they roll up instead of fighting you.
Wow man, thanks for that huge compliment... I like better the story and characters in IV, but V looks much better and is a lot of fun (great cars, planes, animals better AI and a lot more great stuff)
One thing I want to say is the reason why the bridge guard at 4:08 acts like this because GTA is meant to be over-the-top sure, a cop like that wouldn't exist, but in GTA's ridiculous world it does... Along with changing clothes super fast.
Your videos are the best. The Rockstar Editor in this game was such an underrated feature but u make great use of it during the chases and even during simple dialogue when driving. I've used the editor before and I know how much work it must've been to do all that camerawork. Great stuff.
TBH, You should go to the internet cafe and check the weazel news website after every mission, you can understand the story more easily, I once gone to theweazelnews website and saw elizabeta was arrested, also I saw that gambetti died, I feeled really emotional and I can relateit to the real world... It attaches you more with the game
Huh, didn't know that, gotta check that out on my next playthrough, I mean in V is easy you only need to get into a car and the news flash will player over any radio station you're listening to.
Why does Niko give Michelle the coke at 14.50? I know she says shes a cop and that but theres no gun on them and its 2 on 1. What criminal would give a cop something so valuable just because they ask for it?
I had a whole process for that hospital mission. I’d go in only using a pistol then escape avoiding the cops on foot then hop on the train to meet Jacob
My only problem with claiming that the coke time lines work that way is that, HAVE A HEART unlocks Packie's missions including THREE LEAF CLOVER which is also I LUV LC which takes place before CHINESE TAKEOUT which takes place before THIS SHIT'S CURSED which is before HEAVY TOLL. So the timeline actually suggests that all that happened in THE SNOW STORM and HAVE A HEART happened long before Johnny's missions for Elizabeta.
I agree however, I'd like to believe that having Billy in Chinese Takeout is a big screw up by Rockstar since it ruins the pacing of the story missions in GTA IV so, we can always consider a different order for GTA IV Trilogy where Billy's meeting with the Triad doesn't happen during Chinese Takeout
@mistera2834 Even so it would be extremely unlikely that everything between BUYER'S MARKET and HEAVY TOLL happened between BLOW YOUR COVER and THE SNOW STORM because you can't get to Packie's missions until you complete HAVE A HEART. I get the impression that in the original draft THE SNOW STORM was meant to unlock much later in the story but they decided they needed to get Michelle dumped before introducing Niko to Kate.
This entire subplot is literally the entire downfall of Elizabeta.
300 years life sentence. Crazy.
Liberty City crime: Dimitri, Pegorino, Petrovic, it's all mafia.
Police: We should focus only on Elizabieta, no wonder this city is full of crime.
Did she even have a carrer..?👀 Her impact was not that great for me
@@cars_squad2223 we dont see her much, niko worked for her for like a week and then she got busted
@@billross9132 but we saw her kind off backstory in the lost and damm
GTA 4 is like a fucking Tarantino movie. That's why it's so amazing compared to the others , especially with the way you broke the storyline down.
Ace Boogie ikr
More like Michael Mann film mixed with Alex Balabanov
More like a David Chase show or movie
GTA 4 is like a fuckinq
Tarantino GTA 4 like
fuckinq Tarantino GTA 4 IIKE
GTA 4 is epic.
27:38 _Getting_ _chased_ _by_ _the_ _police_ _and_ _the_ _FIB._
*TWO* *HOTDOGS,* *PLEASE.*
He has his priorities straight
Can't run on an empty stomach.
Man can’t escape the police and the federal government on a empty stomach
Warum ApoRed
@@YahyaCanEren warum nicht amk
I think Mallorie put the heat on Liz accidentally since she knew both Michelle and Liz.
Yea Michelle even said there about too take down Elizabeta in The Snow Storm
@@nunziodepalma5944 Andreas was an undercover cop, Liz was in the heat before she "met" Michelle
@@SidVacant69 bro her and Michelle never met Michelle only new her bc she was an Iaa agent they never met and it’s not confirmed that Andreas was wearing a wire Eliabeta just speculated that
@@SidVacant69
It's actually Jorge, he only appears in GTA IV (in the packie mcreary mission, where we have to take care of him with the sniper, and I think he comes out on another mission but I'm not sure)
@@SidVacant69
Besides, Liz never at any time suspects Andreas or calls him a sneak. Liz, on the other hand, never met Michelle/Karen.
I like how Niko's only stake in all the major overarching storylines is like $10,000. Really shows how much of an outsider he is to not just America but even the criminal underworld. He's not fighting for gang supremacy, Or for the control of Liberty City's night clubs, He's literally just doing it for money. The fact that he starts as just a immigrant looking for some work, to literally the top hitman in Liberty City is so cool to me. He's my favorite GTA protagonist. And I'd say he's tied with Arthur Morgan as my favorite Rockstar protagonist.
No, he wants to find Florian and Darko
@@dxfifa that's true.
Bit different from what we were used to...
From buildind empires with CJ,Tommy,Vic to just a worker basically that stays low
@dxfifa yeah, he's fighting for something that actually matters to him. not about making money for others or getting others power
But whoever thought Infinity War was the most ambitious crossover ever obviously never experienced the intertwines of GTA IV, TLaD, and TBoGT.
Gta 5 fucked everything
Little Jacob is probably the only person that got in Elizabeta's face and lived
Because he is a badass.
He is a Jamaican bad man I wonder how we ain’t hear about him in gta 5 or got any new Jamaican characters
@@rasheemthebestfirstone3274Franklin's cousin mentions him and Badman in an email.
Little Jacobs one of my favorite characters in the GTA series.
ya and he also really cool to hangout with
Justin Scroco absolutely
Yea he is one of those homies, we all like to hang out with
I love him, I only wish I didn't have to turn on subtitles so I could at least understand half of what he's saying.
GTA 4 is more fun
Is it just me, or does IV feel like a more thought out and well designed game, at least story wise, than V?
This game with all the upsides from V and SA and this game would be the best of the decade if not more!
Well, I recall a cutscene about Niko buying a gun courtesy of Dimitri. In it Niko says: "The mayor's got a hard on for gun control" I don't remember the exact conversation, but basically it points out that gun control is completely useless. So, yeah the script is written VERY well.
It's subjective. I personally never understood the hate GTA 5 is getting for the story. Whatever video about GTA 4 I watch there is always someone in the comments having an erection about the fact that GTA 4 has a bit darker story than GTA 5. Both stories are great in my opinion. I like that GTA 5 has such a different atmosphere that GTA 4. Such a drastic change works in GTA because GTA games are mostly unrelated to one another. Therefore having one feel completely different from the previous one works. I'm just saying that people are kinda getting annoying with complaining about GTA 5, because we all know both games have great stories that feel unique.
And yes I am aware that I'm replying to a 2 year old comment.
@@alexaurum913 I think something both SA and IV did great was getting us attached to the protagonists. I didn't feel that for the characters in V and the story doesn't really give me an urge to replay it, like I've done countless times for the others.
It IS subjective of course, the atmosphere in V is great and a good setting with a warm vibe. But that doesn't really make up for it feeling kinda cold otherwise.
I still be playing IV. It's story is definitely way better
@@alexaurum913 finally I have met someone who feels the same way
Poor Manny, the streets were never the same without him. LOL 😂
he is so sad
Tony name is posiedon my real name is not important i am an CIA agent leader of the 22 void
Well at least in death he finally started doing something useful and helping people out... by giving them his organs.
I think Manny only wanted to clean up the streets so he can go back to his old ways and take them over, probably why he always took the credit from NiKo.
@@blackpoptart4781 No he took the credit from Niko because Niko didn't wanna be known for his work
13:18 Classic LCPD
Yeah! HAHAH! I lost it there!
That's also classic "The Dukes Of Hazzard" driving too
Do any of you know what the hispanic cop says at 13:20 It sounds like"Say good night, sea cow" but I could be wrong.
Suicidal lcpd
@@NicholasBarton2005he says singao, a Cuban insult
Loved gta 4 when it came out but thought 5 was another level. Now realising 4 was special. The characters. Story, atmosphere and liberty city still looks beautiful 13tears later. Effing masterpiece
5 definitely wasn't another level compared to IV, nor in story, nor in gameplay, everything aside from the movement/control scheme is a downgrade.
Downgrade
People being assholes and trying to disprove anyone that says gta 5 was good, great. THANKS EVERYONE! dissapointments.
@danwordgod2017better graphics, better gameplay, better controls.
But gta 4 was defo better in what counts
Unbelievable that the GTA IV story arch will be fully a decade old by 2019. The base game is already 9, and you have to think of the character's. Niko was just 30 in 2008, and according to the wiki page, he'd be turning 40 next year. Even in gaming, age is kinda sedimental.
FeelsBadMan
But seriously, I still remember getting this game barely after it had released. So many good times over the years.
COOLMCDEN GAMING when
COOLMCDEN 219 No one ever said he's dead , there were mentions that he's PROPABLY dead , not COMPLETELY dead
COOLMCDEN 219
Um no they didn't. Niko is actually still alive, and Roman, too.
@@retrokingranch Roman is dead. niko either dead or went quiet to step in for mallories unborn child
I love how the cop DROVE past Niko..
Into the water..
What the fuck was he trying to do?
knock Niko off the ladder with the car?
Nice A.I R*
Pirate Perfector xD "Where do you think you're go, HUH!"
I know right, but at least shit like cops driver into the water and acting a bit stupid or funny makes the game so much better. I haven t played much of GTA V lately, but I did play some GTA IV or the other two storylines.. even though as "LIVE" part is no more.
Still better than GTA 5
That fucking shotgun that had Johhny has is a monster.
HHHHHHHHHH Yeah !!!
if it was in COD it will be the nightmare for the players XDD
sniper 1 If the Striker had a full auto attachment in MW3 0_o
It is called DAO-12 in Battlefield 3 and was noobs' favourite weapon :)
@@Mxrks1x im pretty sure it was in a few cods, cold war included now
Johnny: Hey i got some change right here, come on let's get this shit moving
He's the Best
Elizabeta never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
realdude111 I must be the only one who gets that.
The Sopranos, lol.
TFW you get the reference.
Now go home and get your fucking shine box.
or a varsity coke dealer
Uncle Junior: “Small hands I reckon”
13:18 I love how Niko stops for a moment and is just standing there, like saying, the hell they doing over there, when the patrol car dives into the river 😂
The reason I think Have a Heart still comes before all of the TLaD missions with Malc is bc Liz's first body guard is no longer there. He's turned states. If Have a Heart happens after all of the TLaD missions, then wouldn't he be there with Andre? Why all of a sudden she got a new body guard after Karen reveals herself?
I think Liz just gets extremely paranoid after Karen's reveal, and for good reason bc she knows she's about to get taken down, but maybe the feds don't have all the evidence they need and let Liz incriminate herself even more as well as continue to collect info on her associates. We do know that the feds are looking into The Lost by this point and it would make some sense to let her keep operating to gather more info on The Lost. She then gets reckless as she continues to work with The Lost and the feds have to go ahead and arrest her before moving in on Billy and The Lost. Niko also never sees Marta who was very prominent in TLaD's cutscenes.
This could be the only inconsitiency with the three stories of IV and EFLC, but I think the feds took their time collecting all the evidence, witnesses, and known associates as they could before taking her down. Liz knew it was coming, but not when.
Niko "Well he said he was going to bust a dealer" 😂
Jacob's subtitles are priceless.
If you look closely, on the back of malcs jacket is the uptown riders symbol. In gta 5, Franklin also owns one of these jackets, which probably explains why he's so good at operating motorcycles.
William Washington or because it became a brand. Doubt that Franklin was part of any gang besides Families.
AlexZebol but he probably likes motorcycles cuz he’s influenced by the Uptown Rider brand
Frank is the vehicle expert in GTA V that is why he has the ability to slow down when he's driving
Frank is the vehicle expert in GTA V that is why he has the ability to slow down when he's driving
He learned from one of the best.
4:45 I like how nobody notices Johnny with a fully auto shotgun
Semi auto*
@@Misfit_1-5 that thing is so powerful it feels like an auto shotgun.
@@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565 it IS called automatic shotgun in the game
Sneak 100
@@Misfit_1-5 full semi-auto*
Source: Media
I love at the end of the game if you look up the news you see she's got like 200 years in prison
300*
Elizabeta should have escaped liberty City. Moved to another country.
gta 4 has a best dying amination ever
Quan Nguyen Ragdoll sure is a treat
One of the best I would say.
The way you made the mission segments cinematic
Yo facts 📈
GTA IV's humor is one of the neat part of the game, he doesn't try to be funny so hard, it's more organic the way things go
all these videos on youtube with gta IV makes me think that gta IV is better than gta V....
Foxy The Pirate it is :P
yeah ur probably right, btw ur videos are awesome!
Foxy The Pirate
Thanks man :D
Np ;D
whatever57010 It so is! GTA V is awful boring and the endorphin physics are so much better in IV.
4:00 OMG LMAO
"Hey hey, look. I got some change right here!" *BANG* xD
300 YEARS?!? Free my girl Liz😭
29:57 Wasted opportunity by R* to make Johnny actually show up in a cop car
24:36 the way she tried to act gangster 😂🤣
20:00 i like how u start the mission with a simple task and then immediately turns into a bloodbath
5:48 AOD killed his own brother
Bruh he did that on purpose 😂
I wonder how the ppl even understand Little Jacob and Badaman. One love me breda
It was never clearly said that Packie was buying coke (but we assume that because he is addicted to it), and anyway the "coke" in that deal is not bought or sold by Liz and has no story behind it (like the coke in the missions "Liquidize the Assets" and "Catch the Wave" that also had coke it them).
🦷🦷🦷🧠🧠🧠
I'm pretty sure Andreas asking for rubber gloves is foreshadowing in cutscene #1. Dude's collecting evidence and doesn't want his prints on it.
GTA IV is one of my all time favorite games along with original Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid on PSOne. Def digging your videos! They bring back good memories. TY for all your hard work on posting them.
Watching this video bummed me out about Johnny dying in Gta 5! He was one of my favorite characters, he was a badass biker, but in gta 5 they killed him off in a way that makes him look like a pussy, by crying on trevor's shoulder, then getting his face stopped in.
Johnny don't die that was Billy grey
The drugs got him...
I feel like they completely changed Johnny's character in GTA 5 just to make Trevor look like a badass. it just made the story feel more silly..
+Elliot Pierson that doesn't make Trevor badass more like jackass
B/c by GTA 5, Johnny had become a weak, defenseless, & useless meth head. In other words, 180 degrees opposite of his former self.
Lost MC and Sons of Anarchy were going to be a very dangerous biker gang.
Man I love your videos you really worked hard to make them... I'll watch the diamonds video tomorrow thanks for the entertainment man
Thanks... really happy you enjoy my videos :)
Like the camera positions when there's a shootout. Great job
He is a cool person
The Auto Shotgun at 5:28 so powerful, it knocks enemies directly in 1 hit per shells
Nice editing skills.
WhyBother? Thanks man :)
Johnny liked Marta
should have got together with her instead of going back with Ashley
Irvin Alexander Flores yeah Ashley is a pos
Poor Marta, she didn't deserve to go out like that.
I feels like Niko is the most trustworthy, he's always clean things up.
god i love this game the main reason why I didn't get rid of my 360 so many good memories playing gta 4!
3:34 theres no other car behind Them But they holding up the traffic?
If you sneak up the back to the old hospital, climb up the ladder and collect the package that way; the gangs will fight the police when they roll up instead of fighting you.
2 hot dogs, please.
Scotty the Pope I’m actually eating a hotdog right now
@@gustarddonut1452 RIP
Wow man, thanks for that huge compliment... I like better the story and characters in IV, but V looks much better and is a lot of fun (great cars, planes, animals better AI and a lot more great stuff)
whatever57010 I know this is a 3 year old comment but I thought the story in 5 was pretty good but IV did have a excellent story!
You mean 300 years as you can hear at 32:38 in this video? :P
Ok maybe I sound dumb, but why had Niko to retrieve the coke for Elizabeta when Johnny and Malc already stole it for her from AoD???
TheMuzillajeff have you watched the video?
TheMuzillajeff She asked Jacob to find a buyer, but he unknowlingly brought it back to those from who it was stolen. So Niko had to get it back.
Johnny getting killed the way he did in V was complete bs
One thing I want to say is the reason why the bridge guard at 4:08 acts like this because GTA is meant to be over-the-top sure, a cop like that wouldn't exist, but in GTA's ridiculous world it does... Along with changing clothes super fast.
19:46 OMFG instant pinball flashback!
You forgot to include the fact this isn’t Elizabeta’s coke. This coke originally belonged to the angels of death
You're confusing the coke with the heroin. Btw the heroin didn't belong to the Angels either it belonged to the Chinese.
25:34 you can hear someone screaming because they are falling to their death that's messed up
13:20 there goes the sirens
Maybe you should've added Gracie Ancelotti to your GTA IV/TLaD/TBoGT Crossovers playlist.
Gracie is part of the Diamond deal
Great video man, I just wish you get more view by doing these thing :P
Also I love when you edit this part 19:40
I finish this mission 3 weeks ago.. didn't kno liz got put down..damn... she waz my main bitch :(
Damn, Johnny was the Trevor Philips of Liberty City
No he wasn’t he was Johnny of the liberty city
poor andreas
:(
Thanks, happy you enjoyed it :)
people should pay you for these videos
Leonard Deblock fuck off
Should he pay rockstar? Shut up douchebag
2:20 dude in the back is having a great time man lol
13:10 I didn't know there was a boat there. I normally just try to lose the cops by stealing one of their cars. XD
Your videos are the best. The Rockstar Editor in this game was such an underrated feature but u make great use of it during the chases and even during simple dialogue when driving. I've used the editor before and I know how much work it must've been to do all that camerawork. Great stuff.
9:09 - 9:48 laughed so hard, your videos are awesome
Raul sgt Thanks man :D
TBH, You should go to the internet cafe and check the weazel news website after every mission, you can understand the story more easily, I once gone to theweazelnews website and saw elizabeta was arrested, also I saw that gambetti died, I feeled really emotional and I can relateit to the real world... It attaches you more with the game
Huh, didn't know that, gotta check that out on my next playthrough, I mean in V is easy you only need to get into a car and the news flash will player over any radio station you're listening to.
31:23 Elizabeta: kills Manny
The music: 💃
Logic in Heavy Toll: There is a better hospital in Dukes..
Yeah I know :(
la, i can really appreciate this channel. great vids.
This game has something that makes it more realistic and crude than gtaV.
10:52 Im sure Mr. Balkan would've said "I ain't Russian"
Edit: Also, that means that NB was acknowledged amongst spanish gangs cubans, PR, etc
Moral of this story? Drugs always brings trouble, there are better ways to make a money.
Thanks, happy you like it :)
I know these vids are from ages ago, but I love 'em subbing for sure.
I love how Torres and Jacob argue. 😀
This is funny.
Nice work! Like a GTA Movie
13:30 Stupid cops! xD
Why does Niko give Michelle the coke at 14.50? I know she says shes a cop and that but theres no gun on them and its 2 on 1. What criminal would give a cop something so valuable just because they ask for it?
These are all her missions that involve cocaine
30:54
It's the streets, man.
gets me every time XD
Elizabeta is genuinely a Puerto Rican version of Young M.A.
She is Jim Jones
GTA 4 > GTA 5
32:43 "EYLIZABEETHA TORRRIS"
0:54 nine years later still a recession going on lol
About 15 actually
It surprises me that this many people can understand Jacob. I had a hard time understanding him.
He isn't easy to understand but I like his music.
Yea I have to turn on the subtitles just to know what he saying.
Dude you are a fucking boss,keep making these video's,thanks .
“That’s right. I’m gonna be waiting for you and you and anybody else who shows up,ok? Cos that’s the way I roll” - Adreas is awesome :D
I had a whole process for that hospital mission. I’d go in only using a pistol then escape avoiding the cops on foot then hop on the train to meet Jacob
so elizabeta got herself end up in prison or she died? please tell me
Prison
She will die in the prison.
5:20 DAMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNN!!!!!!
Elizabeta should be a playable character in the next one.... Like she gets out of prison and moves down to Vice City. Meets up with Packie and Luis.
Thata be cool actually
Nah she’s way to annoying and full of herself imo
Luis moved to Vice City?
It would be nice if for a change female character would be main character in GTA but it will never happen.
@@shadoixydarkness4685 well this aged well.
Thanks man
My only problem with claiming that the coke time lines work that way is that, HAVE A HEART unlocks Packie's missions including THREE LEAF CLOVER which is also I LUV LC which takes place before CHINESE TAKEOUT which takes place before THIS SHIT'S CURSED which is before HEAVY TOLL. So the timeline actually suggests that all that happened in THE SNOW STORM and HAVE A HEART happened long before Johnny's missions for Elizabeta.
I agree
however, I'd like to believe that having Billy in Chinese Takeout is a big screw up by Rockstar since it ruins the pacing of the story missions in GTA IV
so, we can always consider a different order for GTA IV Trilogy where Billy's meeting with the Triad doesn't happen during Chinese Takeout
@mistera2834 Even so it would be extremely unlikely that everything between BUYER'S MARKET and HEAVY TOLL happened between BLOW YOUR COVER and THE SNOW STORM because you can't get to Packie's missions until you complete HAVE A HEART. I get the impression that in the original draft THE SNOW STORM was meant to unlock much later in the story but they decided they needed to get Michelle dumped before introducing Niko to Kate.
Never knew about that post mission phone call with Johnny! Thanks!