To be honest im not sure. Empire claims 5-15 hp and so does big gun. To answer properly i would need 2 identical bikes dyno them add exhaust and dyno them again to have a proper answer
Get that tuner in a water proof case of some sort got mine wet and it messed with the fule ratios and what not and almost blew my bike up. Went with the v force john ecu refresh and bike works better then ever! Love the bike tho looks good!
Thank you Yeah i couldnt get it properly tuned and did the same vfj ecu and for the exhaust it was the best bang for the buck those dobel tuners make em run hot
@@northern-blaze yeah I mounted mine Tuesday and I just thought that wasn’t very much material to actually hold the gasket down. Plus it destroyed my gaskets so I’m hesitant to run it even though I already put new ones in.
@@northern-blaze dude I so appreciate it! I love the way this thing sounds.. it’s so freaking bassy now. Your head pipes get a little glow in the dark?
@tty117 no they do not you need a dobeck tuner or tuned ecu there are plenty of people who tune you have vforce john ftgu DGCustoms and it runs it right
What’s the horsepower difference between empire and big gun? Which one put out more horsepower? Do you know?
To be honest im not sure.
Empire claims 5-15 hp and so does big gun. To answer properly i would need 2 identical bikes dyno them add exhaust and dyno them again to have a proper answer
Stock tires single empire/muzzy 5-7 rwhp. Dual 8-12 rwhp. The upper hp number will definitely be if you modify air box and get a custom dyno tune.
Thank you for the information
Duels aren’t good in mud tho
Get that tuner in a water proof case of some sort got mine wet and it messed with the fule ratios and what not and almost blew my bike up. Went with the v force john ecu refresh and bike works better then ever! Love the bike tho looks good!
Thank you
Yeah i couldnt get it properly tuned and did the same vfj ecu and for the exhaust it was the best bang for the buck those dobel tuners make em run hot
So when you put your empire on was the connection to the head only the little circle? Because that just doesn’t seem as solid as the stock connection.
The pipe is bigger then stock so far i haven’t had any problems with it the pipe widens so the collar just seals it
@@northern-blaze yeah I mounted mine Tuesday and I just thought that wasn’t very much material to actually hold the gasket down. Plus it destroyed my gaskets so I’m hesitant to run it even though I already put new ones in.
I think i broke mine also and i just kept it together tighten more and it doesn’t leak.
@@northern-blaze dude I so appreciate it! I love the way this thing sounds.. it’s so freaking bassy now. Your head pipes get a little glow in the dark?
@tty117 no they do not you need a dobeck tuner or tuned ecu there are plenty of people who tune you have vforce john ftgu DGCustoms and it runs it right
Nice man. I have the duals and have to wear ear plugs haha
Stock is loud those duels must scream
What'd you do with the stock exhaust?
I put it in storage in case someone ever needs it.
@@northern-blazeI saved mine also
Where did you buy from? On the empire website won’t let you enter a vehicle that’s year 2023
Its the same for 2019+
And yes i got it from empire directly
@@northern-blaze ok thanks I figured but wanted to be sure. I appreciate your reply. Love the quad can’t wait to see what you do next.
Waiting on parts at the moment
Thanks for watching i appreciate it
Did the stock o2 sensors fit fine ?
Yes it did had to move wire from original spot thats about it
I’m gonna put a full BigGun EXO stainless steel exhaust on my 2021. I’m gonna wrap the exhaust
Let me know how she sounds and how fitment is.
I am liking the sound and everything but find her a little tight of a fit
@@northern-blaze I will let you know.
Link?
empireindustriesinc.com/product-category/kawasaki/kawasaki-atv/kawasaki-kvf-650750-brute-force/exhaust-kawasaki-kvf-650750-brute-force/