listening to this talk I am reminded of what Sir Winston Churchill said, "...the truth is so precious that she should be attended by a bodyguard of lies"
Steve Burstein You're defending the fucking pope? Especially "Hitler's pope" Pius was a piece of shit collaborator; he should've been hanged with other war criminals. He gave up lots of Jews to the nazis & hid behind his bullshit role as some sort of "holy" man, which is a joke!! All popes are venal, power-mad bastards.
@@MrKmanthie Wrong. The Catholic Church was one of the most prolific smugglers of Jews OUT of Nazi Germany through a combination of issuing fake Vatican IDs, hiring them as missionaries, arranging safe houses among members of the church, etc.
no offense! have you read, Red Horizons? to understand what Pacepa did. I recommend that book to you ... he affected the entire Romanian system and I am not talking only about espionage, but an entire ensemble. In Romania, investments were made on various branches, and he released all these investments ... to make progress since he has decriminalized everything ... the communist system cannot appreciate it as a positive or negative factor ... in each political system there are gaps (positive and negative) ... and I do not want to make a political discussion ... I will ask you something more, if you want to answer! but first I want to know if you are Romanian? ... what is the difference between Mihai Pacepa and Ion Antonescu?
@@angelacret he could unveil the spy system ... but not the economic interests ... here wrong in my opinion ... not affect the economy and development ... he could give names as he did, but without saying the interests ... here he was wrong and showed that the personal interest was greater than the social interest (to remove Ceausescu) ...
Very interesting and one of my favorite subjects on world history especially about the history of the Catholic Church and the Nazis along with espinoge conducted against the Russian Intelligence service's.
The Russians/Soviets are widely acknowledge to be very skilled at disinformation, but this talk will give you no insight into this. This is a very bad talk at two levels. First, the presentation rambles. Second, he destroys his credibility. For example, he characterizes basic PR - such as a picture of Putin with a puppy - as "disinformation". For example, he throws up a slide on "Potemkin Villages" with only a faulty understanding of the origins -- too lazy to do a quick lookup in Wikipedia. For example, when he lays out all the connections of the Soviets to the play "The Deputy", he includes I.F. Stone as a Soviet agent, apparently unaware of how thin and questionable the evidence is. Stone's role: He praised the play. In the context of how much of the world had turned a blind eye to the Holocaust, isn't it more likely that Stone--being Jewish--identified with the claim that the Catholic Church did too little (recognize that the Catholic political parties in German helped the rise of the Nazis). For example, he cites US politicians blaming their predecessors for problems as signs of Russian successes. Similarly for "attacks on religion" (not identified) as necessary precursors to install a murderous regime. With a bunch of other instances where the presenter seemed too credulous, I started picturing him with an aluminum-foil cap. The Spy Museum should have been embarrassed by this talk and if they decided they had to publish it, at least warn people that this was nonsense.
The speaker uses exactly the same technique that he describes in his talk - sending subtle messages, equating the then US government with behaviour of Soviet leaders. Coming from someone who is an invited speaker in TheSpyMuseum should make it sound credible. Then right after his subtle messages from the last slide comes the question regarding RadioFreeEurope - discrediting this institution in one go. The whole rumble of a presentation seemed to be just a foreplay for these two subtle final messages.
When one realizes they're doing something wrong, the only thing they can do is stop. If they are in a situation where if they stop they will be killed, then they should stop, flee, and warn people about what is going on.
He is defending Pope Pius XII, because of the Communist disinformation campaign. It played well to Atheists, Protestants, Jews, Liberals, and anybody that already hated the Church. The Communists and Freemasons finally got their guy in John XXIII and the Council of Apostasy that was Vatican II. The lecturer knows Pacepa is Romanian.
Excellent! Thank you, Sir! And everybody involved in this presentation.
Carter, the peanut grower: "Ceauescu is a guy we can do business with."
As Ceausescu said to Pacepa as his limo left the Carter White House: “Peanut head.”
And Regan believed that he was dealing with Iranian ‘moderates’ in Tehran. Gave them a Bible.
@@manatee2500 Mr Biden and the Taliban?
Wanted to sell him some peanut butter?
Reagan made decisions about when to land his plane, and when to meet with key people, based on the advice of a medium/spiritist.
Very well done lecture. 👏
Why aren't books like that found in American public libraries anymore?
You are asking, why don't the same woke librarians who sponsor "drag queen story hours", allow books like this one?
@@anng.4542you are literally the embodiment of a useful idiot.
They are?
Ion Mihai Pacepa
Oct 28, 1928 - Feb 14, 2021
RIP
listening to this talk I am reminded of what Sir Winston Churchill said, "...the truth is so precious that she should be attended by a bodyguard of lies"
Good presentation, thank you.
My Aunt referred to Pius XII as "The original anti-Semite", and I tried to set her straight.
Steve Burstein You're defending the fucking pope? Especially "Hitler's pope" Pius was a piece of shit collaborator; he should've been hanged with other war criminals. He gave up lots of Jews to the nazis & hid behind his bullshit role as some sort of "holy" man, which is a joke!! All popes are venal, power-mad bastards.
@@MrKmanthie Wrong. The Catholic Church was one of the most prolific smugglers of Jews OUT of Nazi Germany through a combination of issuing fake Vatican IDs, hiring them as missionaries, arranging safe houses among members of the church, etc.
@@MrKmanthie And the communists murdered forty million Russians. Fuck you.
@@MrKmanthie Hitler's pope? Stop using KGB slurs please. He was involved in 3 plots to kill Hitler. How is that a collaborator?
@@MrKmanthie lol did you even watch the video?
Totally awesome !
What it is awesome?
@@AngOny-007
I happen to agree with the presenter. He is educated, articulate, animated, and well-informed.
no offense! have you read, Red Horizons? to understand what Pacepa did. I recommend that book to you ... he affected the entire Romanian system and I am not talking only about espionage, but an entire ensemble. In Romania, investments were made on various branches, and he released all these investments ... to make progress since he has decriminalized everything ... the communist system cannot appreciate it as a positive or negative factor ... in each political system there are gaps (positive and negative) ... and I do not want to make a political discussion ... I will ask you something more, if you want to answer! but first I want to know if you are Romanian? ... what is the difference between Mihai Pacepa and Ion Antonescu?
@@angelacret he could unveil the spy system ... but not the economic interests ... here wrong in my opinion ... not affect the economy and development ... he could give names as he did, but without saying the interests ... here he was wrong and showed that the personal interest was greater than the social interest (to remove Ceausescu) ...
I would like to see a lecture or interview with Gen Pacepa, himself.
I wonder if that exists.
bluewater454 He is still in hiding.
Janis Ladigs
I supose the Russians dont forgive easily, do they?
How about Boris Badenov?
we have one in romania
Yes, there is an interview with gen. Pacepa, a radio interview in the Romanian language.
Marxist such outrage, criminals
Jorge Semprún was also a concentration camp collaborationist guard or "Kapo" That's how he managed to survive
I wonder how many people believed Carter's Soviet-inspired pablum about Ceausescu?
Very interesting and one of my favorite subjects on world history especially about the history of the Catholic Church and the Nazis along with espinoge conducted against the Russian Intelligence service's.
viva Pacepa!.....go Pacepa!
thank you for your response!
Newsweek is back!
Jorge Semprun actually survived the concentration camps because he was a Kapo at the camp.
If Amanda is director of adult education why does she then talk to adults like children ?
Terrible orator
This is a great channel......lots of propaganda, and the " winner writes the story" kind of stuff, but still.....very facsinating. Very informative
The whalen papers , the nin documents , and the steele dossier.
The Russians/Soviets are widely acknowledge to be very skilled at disinformation, but this talk will give you no insight into this.
This is a very bad talk at two levels. First, the presentation rambles. Second, he destroys his credibility.
For example, he characterizes basic PR - such as a picture of Putin with a puppy - as "disinformation".
For example, he throws up a slide on "Potemkin Villages" with only a faulty understanding of the origins -- too lazy to do a quick lookup in Wikipedia.
For example, when he lays out all the connections of the Soviets to the play "The Deputy", he includes I.F. Stone as a Soviet agent, apparently unaware of how thin and questionable the evidence is. Stone's role: He praised the play. In the context of how much of the world had turned a blind eye to the Holocaust, isn't it more likely that Stone--being Jewish--identified with the claim that the Catholic Church did too little (recognize that the Catholic political parties in German helped the rise of the Nazis).
For example, he cites US politicians blaming their predecessors for problems as signs of Russian successes. Similarly for "attacks on religion" (not identified) as necessary precursors to install a murderous regime.
With a bunch of other instances where the presenter seemed too credulous, I started picturing him with an aluminum-foil cap.
The Spy Museum should have been embarrassed by this talk and if they decided they had to publish it, at least warn people that this was nonsense.
Douglas Moran so what will? Please provide links
Maybe when you’re invited to speak in D.C. at the Spy Museum because of your credentials you can correct him. Fuckin idiot
The speaker uses exactly the same technique that he describes in his talk - sending subtle messages, equating the then US government with behaviour of Soviet leaders. Coming from someone who is an invited speaker in TheSpyMuseum should make it sound credible.
Then right after his subtle messages from the last slide comes the question regarding RadioFreeEurope - discrediting this institution in one go.
The whole rumble of a presentation seemed to be just a foreplay for these two subtle final messages.
Doug Moron is a Communist agent 🗽
25:00 CNN SOP.
Not your best speaker 😢
Jack Demon!
Spy chief runs off after killing and destroying ppl,now hes a "hero"
When one realizes they're doing something wrong, the only thing they can do is stop. If they are in a situation where if they stop they will be killed, then they should stop, flee, and warn people about what is going on.
Wonder what this guy thinks of Trump & the GOP embracing Putin🥴
He would recognize that story for the BS that it is.
Ion Mihai Pacepa is ROMANIAN, not Russian. SMH!!! And this guy is defending the pope. Done at this point.
Silvana Smith (778Denver) Yeah, but communist Romania was a satellite country of the Eastern Bloc (all subjected to the Soviet Union).
Silvana Smith (778Denver) Same diffrence from american pov, it doesn't really matter.
He is defending Pope Pius XII, because of the Communist disinformation campaign. It played well to Atheists, Protestants, Jews, Liberals, and anybody that already hated the Church. The Communists and Freemasons finally got their guy in John XXIII and the Council of Apostasy that was Vatican II. The lecturer knows Pacepa is Romanian.
A fost spion KGB !
He is defending an important resistance figure.
Had a hard time taking seriously anyone who has connections to the Catholic League. Talk about propoganda.
Unseen author. Book on disinformation. Sure the book isn't some disinfo as well? Trust no one. Not even yourself. You could very well be deceived.
Yes.
Nowhere do I hear it said "professional liar now tells truth". We can learn a lot from his books, but I don't think it'll be the truth.
Lies after lies after lies this book is not being made by pacepa was made by some academicians from USA a nice SF story 😂
Shit
Rambling, disorganized and scattershot. If he thinks that blaming previous leaders is unique to communism, he should really study history.
Poorly researched, poorly presented catholic propaganda.
Catholic propaganda? This is an ex-communist spy.