My dad went on the original Pirates of the Caribbean back in the 70's, and thought it was the best. When we went on the ride in 2010, he was very surprised, but not shocked, on how much it had changed, mainly at the end with Captain Jack Sparrow singing to himself in a room full of treasure. He thought it was downright groundbreaking with how realistic the animatronic was and kept saying it felt like Johnny Depp was in the room with him
The only change that has "offended" me is that during the scene where the village is on fire, the WDW version no longer has the smellitizer that used to blast the smell of burning wood (like the smell they use in the Roman library burning in Spaceship Earth).
they have that vanilla smell now. in disney world when you go by the guy with the cats (or pigs) thers a barrel that has some reallllyyy good vanilla smell
I think the problem most people had with these elements of the ride boil down to the intent. The scenes were created to be comical, being historically accurate was a byproduct. First and foremost it’s supposed to be fun, not (just) accurate. People probably just had issues with such things being made light of.
I made a comment before I read yours but I'm going to say the same thing to you as I did on the other one and that is these people that are complaining about such idiotic stuff well they need to get a life!! Why can't they leave things alone you know it's a ride at Disney it's helping us get through our daily lives of stress and aggravation. Just sit back and relax and enjoy the damn ride already
If the original intent was to be comical, it was darky comical. As a small child in the 1970's version, this ride was scary. The original intent, I think, is that the ride was originally conceived as something along the lines of a pirate-themed haunted house - an Adventureland counterpart to Haunted Mansion, if you will. Although I'm hesitant to defend Disney - they have a larger army of lawyers to do that for them than most - I think the biggest two elements at play here are 1) those of us who grew up with it, and so think of PotC as a "kids' ride," and 2) the idea of what "children's media" is has changed since the 1960's from something closer to the morbidity of _Grimm's Fairy Tales_ to a more sanitized post-"Barney and Friends" ideal.
i think people forget that pirates are criminals. they have a tenancy toward violence. Ironically Disney is doing much worse for society by making pirates the heros rather than the villains. traditionally all the pirates featured in disney movies were the bad guys. Now their most popular pirate themed franchise is about making pirates out to be rock stars.
It’s a family attraction and the parts involving rape were way too much I’m down with the update to the auction I just wouldn’t have screwed with the scenario, centering it around Jack I mean. They change the scenario too much and too little at the same time: the pirates instead of ransacking the town for treasure, and I guess they still are, but hearing the interrogating pirate demand jacks whereabouts sounds awkward. Also the fact that our hero Captain Jack Sparrow is just fucking around while women are being auctioned for god knows what, it’s a problem for both the ride and the franchise
I'm fine with changing rides, my biggest objection to the Pirates updates is that so many of them make no sense within the story of the ride itself. The mayor of the town used to be interrogated about the location of the town's gold and he refused to tell the pirates so they kept dunking him in the well. Now, they're asking him where Captain Jack is. Why on Earth would this guy accept being tortured rather than tell them what he knows about a pirate that he has no allegiance to? And in the new auction scene, why would pirates bid for the right to own chickens? They need to get back on a ship, not start a farm! Pirates would take gold, jewelry, and things that they could quickly sell off and then just split the money. They keep adding weird touches like this as they graft on new "fixes" and I wish they'd put more thought into making the ride a cohesive whole again. No, we don't need a deep story in a dark ride but it would be nice if the story that is there actually has some kind of internal logic that it adheres to.
I completely agree It sucks when they make a movie and try to force the ride to fit the movie, half the time they are talking about captain jack now and the story is completely broken.
I never knew about the woman being shot in the ride, I always saw it after the change and thought she was afraid of a pirate trying to climb into her window!
Went to Disneyland last month and thank god this is still there! The other bits with the naked woman hiding in the barrel from the pervy pirate, and the women being auctioned off is understandably controversial topics on the ride. However, I have to agree, that is what pirates did. To say pirates had a moral compass is a bit of an oxymoron.
Sincerest apologies for the re-upload, but in my haste to get this video up, as a comment quickly pointed out, I misread an element of Walt Disney’s timeline that I felt had to be corrected. Thanks to channel “Messy” to pointing it out.
Not reall. the movies are for entertainment purposes, as is the ride. They aren't saying it was a historically accurate experience. There's freaking cursed skeletons man.
If they somehow incorporate it so maybe the guys on the bridge could be like "We don't want treasure! We wants the redhead!" And the redhead could be like shut up and shoot at them XD
I thought this too, but based oh the movies, the impression is that they are heroes, at least in kids eyes. Maybe that's why they take these sort of depictions more seriously now
CaptainNarwhal225 feminazi...yes, because people being upset and asking for women to be displayed with respect makes them “nazis”. Way to persuade people to see your point, champ. I agree that it’s silly to get upset because it’s not set in today’s world and the changes make it less historically accurate. But your tags do nothing to help your argument. It makes you look whiny.
CaptainNarwhal225 - you're whiny. - they only changed the auction scene in Paris. - I feel, for A Pirate themed rid,e it's definitely not necessary to change it, but it's not a crime to get them to stop auctioning off women...
I dislike the change to the cave before entering the ship battle scene. it used to be dark and ominous. now it's loud and obnoxious. saying "dead men tell no tales" every 3 seconds is annoying. then the mist hologram yelling at you too with the music going. it really ruined one of the more immersive moments in the ride and disrupts the overall pacing and feel.
They’ve now changed it again! I grew up with the Davy Jones mist screen and was always terrified of it, but now there’s a brief display of a pirate who turns into a skeleton as you pass him by (it actually uses a very effective mirror trick!). They brought back the original haunted grotto narration for that section as well!
Yeah. But this is from same ppl that added an Ellen animotronic into the universe of energy ride. The little changes they made are annoying agreed. It’s not that I don’t like change. It feels like a committee came in and patted themselves on the bsck for their ideas and job well done making the ride modern. But walt and the original developers had it right the first time.
They are men. In those people, treated women as dirt and other people who weren't like them and they still are except now this political correctness has made everyone hypocrites.
I agree. Most risque things I saw as a kid went completely over my head, it's actually funny for me to think how naive I was back then but that's one of life's fun realizations. However I'm glad that he pointed out that this isn't the first time changes have been made to the park like with the Settler's Cabin example at 3:59 because that is legitimately awful for a few reasons. But for Pirates, I feel like if a kid actually does start asking uncomfortable questions after the ride, all a parent needs to do is have a discussion, simple as that. I guess some folks really are just terrified of talking with their children.
At least it wasn’t like Pirates of the Pancreas in Anatomy Park. Rick wanted a REAL authentic experience with the Pirates which meant no censoring whatsoever.
Another brilliant video! I personally enjoy seeing Disney attractions evolve through time, like the addition of movie elements to Pirates, the addition of Disney characters to Small World, etc. as long as the main theme and vibe of the original attraction is maintained.
Thank you kind sir! For me, it's a very bittersweet feeling; sad to see beloved attraction elements (or a ride as a whole) go, but enjoy seeing new implementations of creativity and technology...in most cases at least ;)
Yesterworld Entertainment I think it's not for the best, BUT, I would much rather them change one scene then completely remove the entire ride. Something Universal should learn from Disney is don't get rid of classic attractions but keep them and simply update them!
I saw the original Pirates Of The Caribbean ride, as well as the western scene with the burning cabin during a visit in the summer of 1967. I had no idea that the rides were altered shortly thereafter. Makes me feel rather fortunate.
Your theme park videos are fascinating. I love learning about their histories and changes over the years. As long as you keep making these videos, I will continue to watch them 👍🏻
I mean for me personally i think it’s cool to represent it in a historically accurate way but if I had kids I wouldn’t want them seeing a lot of that stuff tbh...and considering Disneyland is family oriented it’s important to remember that most if not all decisions made to change rides like this is because they want families to feel comfortable and welcome rather than disturbed, even if the disturbing content is the truth. the kids can learn about the gritty stuff when they’re older :)
Don't be so overprotective, you shouldn't care what you're future kids see and Disneyland doesn't have to be overly family oriented, families can't be made to feel comfortable all the time, they need to deal with being disturbed. kids can learn about the gritty stuff anytime.
Thanks! I'd love to say I brilliantly timed the release of this video to coincide with the anniversary, but believe it or not, it was just a happy accident brought on by computer issues pushing the video from last week :)
Thanks for the understanding. I panicked at the thought of having to re-upload based on incorrect information I gave in my haste to post the video, but this comment helped put me at ease :)
Yesterworld Entertainment Aww. of course! I love your videos. And listen everyone makes mistakes. just makes us human. still doesn't take away from the fact that you make great videos. Keep up the great work! 😄👍😀
I remember the og ride from when I was like 10 in '93 and we went to CA on vacation, wow that brought back memories! I didn't even know they changed it. wow, awesome work man, keep it up!
I first visited Disney World back in 1972 at age 10. It was beyond magical. And it was affordable and not nearly as crowded at today. I hate how they tampered with Pirates of the Caribbean to make it more politically correct. And I hate the Johnny Depp dolls all over the thing. And I hate how they removed some of Paul Frees' brilliant audio cues.
The removal of the original ride elements is always a bad move. Worldly moments like these are also something to take into account when making a wholesome family experience. You can't just wash them away. Children should also be shown that the world isn't sunshine and happy smiling rainbows all the time, something Walt himself understood and opted to show in the movies he directed. That's why they were there in the first place. The entire concept of Pirates of the Caribbean as an attraction is actually quite gruesome: pirates raid a port town, ransack the village, harm or kill the population, then burn it to the ground. If Disney wanted to make a wholesome family experience, the entire attraction would need to be retooled or be removed entirely. So changes like these baffle me.
Trying to project a world that's sunshine and happy smiling rainbows all the time is basically the Disney theme park brand. What are you talking about?
After I seize control of Disney in a hostile takeover, I will change Pirates back to its original 1967 non PC self and even cite that quote as one the main reasons. I also plan on issuing an apology to Atencio's family.
@@SirBuzz yes I am sure. I understand other rides were changed but it was changed and that's it. You shouldn't vouch yourself off of not going to the park ever again.
@@SirBuzz What are you even talking about. The real elephant in the room was that song of the south was a racist movie Disney hates to be reminded of. Not to mention this has nothing to do with Marxism. Maybe do research instead of assuming they used George Floyds death as a ploy to change a ride. You are just mad that one of your favorite rides was changed when in reality the ride is based off the imagineers vision and realism is sprinkled in their. Nostalgia is blocking you from enjoy things.
@@SirBuzz Your the ignorant one here and most childish because oh your favorite ride got switched and it feels like the world has turned it's back on you. Grow up man stop blaming everyone else just because a ride was changed. Also nothing of this conversation was due to money we never even talked about it. I was just saying that you shouldn't get that mad about a ride change but you decided to talk about Marxism and exploitation of someone's death and OF COURSE you bring up the word "agenda".
I think the ride overalls paints pirates in a friendly and fun light. It makes sense that Disney needed to choose between this and historical accuracy.
The movie was inspired by the ride so I'm a little butthurt that the ride is just the movie now But I love both so I can't actually be that mad. I've gotten to see both in my lifetime so im satisfied and I'll be forever obsessed with it
I'm glad I experienced this ride several times as a child, teenager and young adult. I will always cherish the memories of the ride back then. I love Paris so this will give me one of many reasons to visit again someday.
I never heard of anyone complaining about the ride being offensive, pirates are criminals, so they are suppose to do bad things it's in their nature and culture, I hope the overly sensitive people are happy now with the changes. Such nonsense.
Another excellent piece here.I for one, do not agree with the changes made to cater to the popularity of the film franchise. It was a ride first, Walt's contributions went into the look and feel of it. I felt like the changes were disrespectful to what he wanted. Just curious btw... anyone else remember the smell of this ride? waiting in line as well as through the ride? one of the greatest, same as splash mountain. If they could bottle it it'd be called eau de nostalgique :)
Holy shit! I thought I remember seeing some pirates chase around women when I was younger. Of course as a kid I thought nothing of it, but as I grew older and learned about pirates being pillagers, thieves, and rapists, my perspective on that changed a bit....
The pirates of the Caribbean ride is truly one of/the best ride at Disney land Florida. If u are going there you CANNOT miss this amazing ride as you will remember it forever
Loved this video as I have all of your vids that I've watched. You did forget one thing though that itself was VERY controversial when "Pirates" first opened--the nude painting of the woman (wearing only a pirate hat and eye patch) that adorns the captain's hidden treasure trove scene. Yeah, you don't really see anything, but as a former Disneylander myself, we were told that Anaheim area preachers were pressuring them to remove it for years!
From what I remember, legend has it the skull on the pirates bed headboard was initially real and eventually replaced, though I can't say for certain. The rumor of all or most of the skeletons being real seems to be an undying myth that (I believe) has been discounted.
I really appreciate your video on this. Your ability to remain unbiased and open ended on it was really cool. Just stating the facts as they are and leaving it open to discussion.
I find the changes unnecessary. Too much sensitivity. Are we supposed to wash out history? Part of what I love about history is it's flaws. You don't need to agree with it, but it is an important part of human existence. And to me, quite interesting.
Well according to liberal whiners, history HAS to be re-written to keep from offending them. They truly are ridiculous on a level that never fails to amaze me.
The parents are to blame.. killing the parks attractions and the original idea that made them walt disney.
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BeachsideYeti well... some ideas just aren’t culturally friendly. I would think Walt would appreciate that being a futurist. I mean I agree that people need to toughen up we also do need to learn how to truly respect all people’s.
Laura Bow It is one of their buzzwords they employ to bitch about political correctness. It is funny how it is actually they that are the whiniest, not the SWJs. It is called projecting. The internet certainly helps spread this rot. Look at all these commenters bitch about nonsense. One can hope the majority are trolls but with recent politics (the collapse of the establishemnt movement conservatism in the GOP and the rise of right wing politics) I fear it will get worse.
@@irvinortega7 Right? I mean the bride auction scene being taken out was basically due to a few people pointing out "Hey, maybe we should reconsider showing some pretty brazen examples of sexual violence in a ride intended to entertain families" and Disney quietly agreeing, then removing those elements during the next planned maintenance. The anti-SJW crowd would frame it as lines of protesters demanding and threatening Disney with lawsuits unless they change it, because of course any change they don't like is a personal attack on them.
it's understandable that they updated the ride to reflect current views. To people whining about it...the ride isn't supposed to be a historically accurate depiction of pirates, it's a family friendly ride in a family theme park. If you want to see historical facts and such, watch a documentary.
Whist watching this I was thinking "I've seen all that and my first time on Pirates of the Caribbean was in 2014!" , until you revealed that Paris was the only one not to change the original story. I guess us Europeans prefer historical accuracy to offending anyone :D
lol why are you all looking to Disneyland for historical accuracy ... god forbid DISNEY censors graphic material ... a company built on historical revisionism and fiction ... zippity doo daaaaaa (also, may i recommend bangs for that forehead?)
Jesus Christ. You know the scene in the spong Bob movie where king Neptune takes off his crown and blinds everyone? That's what it feels like looking at your profile pic. Try bangs. Maybe wear a beanie. This is Disneyland and does not need to honour "history". It doesn't have to be historically accurate and I'm glad they've decided to change it. Yes, pirates did rape women and treat them like they were less than human but, why should we show that to children? You're honestly just a fucking idiot if you can't see how that's harmful.
@@ellieblunden1463 Calm down there, Karen, it's not as harmful as you make it seem to be lol. When my siblings, friends, and I rode the ride as kids, most of the risque things we saw went completely over our heads. If a child actually does start asking uncomfortable questions after the ride, all a parent needs to do is have a discussion, simple as that. I guess folks like you really are just terrified of talking with their children.
Thankfully, I have the original ride soundtrack on CD as it was sold at Disney World for a while...all the dialog, "We wants the redhead," "Oist me colors on that lass"....all on there. Will guard it with my life.
You honestly have great and interesting content. Your content is informative and refreshing, when I show my friends these videos it's a great conversation starter.
a lot of these comments are complaining about "pc culture" and junk but.. it has little to nothing to do with that? it has to do with parents wanting something family friendly to bring their kids on. i mean, i never considered pirates of the caribbean to be a family ride but its disney so what do you expect
Frankly, I think the addition of Jack Sparrow was the dumbest change to the ride It's a family-friendly ride, so the other alterations can be excused a bit, but I think adding Johnny Depp to it made it lose some of the charm that made it a classic It was a pirate ride with no real cohesive story, just a slice of pirate life. Suddenly, with the addition of the movie references, it lost the element of mystery where you could wonder what the plot was for yourself. I mean, the ride is still great now, and one of my favorites, but I do miss the fun of piecing together the story on my own.
Is it really so weird for parents to not want to have to explain to their curious children the implications of sexual violence while just trying to have a nice time at Disney World? I get the desire to reject censorship but honestly this is quite dark for a children's ride. I get why people complained. The argument of historical accuracy also seems weird to me. Like, this ride was never historically accurate lol. It would be much more historically accurate if the pirates didn't sing and actually did rape those women, and then murdered them. Would that make this theme park ride better though?
Nobody on earth cared about the auction scene until it was suggested that it would be removed and then all of a sudden it's everyone's favourite moment from the ride. That scene never got into any of the movies (which was aimed at an older audience where it would be more appropriate), so clearly it was never that iconic. Evidently Disney didn't feel it suited their brand and nobody cared about that part of the ride so they changed it, I really don't think a company as large and powerful as Disney would allow a "SJW" boogeyman influence multi-million dollar refurbishments to their attractions, that's just ridiculous.
It was always my favorite scene and I'm going to put it back the way it was after I seize the Disney company in a hostile takeover. I will be the Donald Trump that Disney needs to make it great again.
lol yall acting like changing a few unimportant elements ruins the whole thing. it's not a history lesson, but an amusement ride. but in all honesty, pirates weren't good people to start with.
Ah yes keep making subtle small changes to remove offense material and using that as the prime motivation for the updates (and not expanding the ride, or updating to show more modern technology in animatronics, or features, or story development) and eventually the guns will be removed with slingshots and the pirates won’t speak in old timey slurs because it’s racist or something. But what difference does it make, it’s all for amusement, doesn’t matter if the pirate ride isn’t pirates anymore 🙄
I guess I wasn't paying much attention the last time I went to Disneyland, but is 5:49 meant to imply that the cigars from both Pinocchio and Roger Rabbit were removed?
Yeah, I'm 45, went to Orlando Disney World when I was super young, and I remember some parts that were removed later. It made me feel awful even then, the idea of women running from men. That horrible theme should be gotten rid of. If Disney was actually trying to pay honor to reality, most of these rides would either not exist at all, or they would be blood and horror shows of human atrocities. Pirates should be re-thought and the sexually suggestive threads removed entirely.
2:35 I took a trip up to Lake Placid with a brief stop at the Barkeater Chocolates factory store in North Creek on the exact day that marked the 50th anniversary of that fateful moment for the company.
@@Dvgteeth It's NOT a children's ride, numbskull. You need to get this in your head once and for all: Disneyland is NOT for kids. Never has been and never will be. "You're dead if you aim for kids, adults are just kids grown up anyway." - Walt Disney
I loved the original ride. Older children (meaning Some teens) and adults would have likely been the main ones to notice like that. Disney should have kept it the way it was and made no changes after all Pirates of the Caribbean movies have just as much risque scenes.
I said a few weeks. You know because they announced they're changing the auction scene and all? If the video was made after the fact you could have added that Disney was in fact changing that scene to whatever it'll be. Before any of that was announced though you discussed how it was a big deal and that a change might happen.... you called it before it happened.
Yup, if we don't like something it's "Don't watch/attend if you don't like it." If they(SJW Marxists) don't like something it's 'change it/ get rid of it, now!!!' We must stop this scourge.
My dad went on the original Pirates of the Caribbean back in the 70's, and thought it was the best. When we went on the ride in 2010, he was very surprised, but not shocked, on how much it had changed, mainly at the end with Captain Jack Sparrow singing to himself in a room full of treasure. He thought it was downright groundbreaking with how realistic the animatronic was and kept saying it felt like Johnny Depp was in the room with him
When I went there last, I had fun looking for Jack Sparrow XD
Wanna hear something weird? Once in a great while it actually IS Depp. He is a Disney freak and likes doing things like that from time to time.
Darryl Bernard it could’ve even been him lol
He looks so much like wax lately, it's easy to make that mixup
Your dad must think J.D does not move his mouth when he talks if he thought it looked real
The only change that has "offended" me is that during the scene where the village is on fire, the WDW version no longer has the smellitizer that used to blast the smell of burning wood (like the smell they use in the Roman library burning in Spaceship Earth).
Holy shit they used that smell there too?
Maybe I experienced that in the 2000s?
they have that vanilla smell now. in disney world when you go by the guy with the cats (or pigs) thers a barrel that has some reallllyyy good vanilla smell
i was just there a few months ago, and the year before, and it does in fact still smell like burning wood.
I think the problem most people had with these elements of the ride boil down to the intent. The scenes were created to be comical, being historically accurate was a byproduct. First and foremost it’s supposed to be fun, not (just) accurate. People probably just had issues with such things being made light of.
I made a comment before I read yours but I'm going to say the same thing to you as I did on the other one and that is these people that are complaining about such idiotic stuff well they need to get a life!! Why can't they leave things alone you know it's a ride at Disney it's helping us get through our daily lives of stress and aggravation. Just sit back and relax and enjoy the damn ride already
If the original intent was to be comical, it was darky comical. As a small child in the 1970's version, this ride was scary. The original intent, I think, is that the ride was originally conceived as something along the lines of a pirate-themed haunted house - an Adventureland counterpart to Haunted Mansion, if you will.
Although I'm hesitant to defend Disney - they have a larger army of lawyers to do that for them than most - I think the biggest two elements at play here are 1) those of us who grew up with it, and so think of PotC as a "kids' ride," and 2) the idea of what "children's media" is has changed since the 1960's from something closer to the morbidity of _Grimm's Fairy Tales_ to a more sanitized post-"Barney and Friends" ideal.
i think people forget that pirates are criminals. they have a tenancy toward violence. Ironically Disney is doing much worse for society by making pirates the heros rather than the villains. traditionally all the pirates featured in disney movies were the bad guys. Now their most popular pirate themed franchise is about making pirates out to be rock stars.
History has been filled with misery & cruelty.
It’s a family attraction and the parts involving rape were way too much
I’m down with the update to the auction
I just wouldn’t have screwed with the scenario, centering it around Jack I mean. They change the scenario too much and too little at the same time: the pirates instead of ransacking the town for treasure, and I guess they still are, but hearing the interrogating pirate demand jacks whereabouts sounds awkward.
Also the fact that our hero Captain Jack Sparrow is just fucking around while women are being auctioned for god knows what, it’s a problem for both the ride and the franchise
I'm fine with changing rides, my biggest objection to the Pirates updates is that so many of them make no sense within the story of the ride itself. The mayor of the town used to be interrogated about the location of the town's gold and he refused to tell the pirates so they kept dunking him in the well. Now, they're asking him where Captain Jack is. Why on Earth would this guy accept being tortured rather than tell them what he knows about a pirate that he has no allegiance to? And in the new auction scene, why would pirates bid for the right to own chickens? They need to get back on a ship, not start a farm! Pirates would take gold, jewelry, and things that they could quickly sell off and then just split the money.
They keep adding weird touches like this as they graft on new "fixes" and I wish they'd put more thought into making the ride a cohesive whole again. No, we don't need a deep story in a dark ride but it would be nice if the story that is there actually has some kind of internal logic that it adheres to.
I completely agree It sucks when they make a movie and try to force the ride to fit the movie, half the time they are talking about captain jack now and the story is completely broken.
I never knew about the woman being shot in the ride, I always saw it after the change and thought she was afraid of a pirate trying to climb into her window!
She was not shot. The bullet split the flower pot beneath her window.
Went to Disneyland last month and thank god this is still there! The other bits with the naked woman hiding in the barrel from the pervy pirate, and the women being auctioned off is understandably controversial topics on the ride. However, I have to agree, that is what pirates did. To say pirates had a moral compass is a bit of an oxymoron.
@@Bluemgwes The compasses they had were for navigation
Sincerest apologies for the re-upload, but in my haste to get this video up, as a comment quickly pointed out, I misread an element of Walt Disney’s timeline that I felt had to be corrected. Thanks to channel “Messy” to pointing it out.
Yeah boy
Well plus Disneyland Paris changed its POTC ride too
where is the indian village footage from? its fantastic quality
It's not a huge deal, so whatever, but really, it was pirates. Pirates weren't good dudes.
That's something the people making the movies need to remember too
Not reall. the movies are for entertainment purposes, as is the ride. They aren't saying it was a historically accurate experience. There's freaking cursed skeletons man.
If they somehow incorporate it so maybe the guys on the bridge could be like "We don't want treasure! We wants the redhead!" And the redhead could be like shut up and shoot at them XD
So true. Soon they will want ninjas not to sneak into people's house and steal or kill people .Shredder will have to be nice to the turtles, too.
I thought this too, but based oh the movies, the impression is that they are heroes, at least in kids eyes. Maybe that's why they take these sort of depictions more seriously now
Guess it's time to update this video AGAIN with the new Pirate's controversy.
Happiest Place have they removed depp?
CaptainNarwhal225 feminazi...yes, because people being upset and asking for women to be displayed with respect makes them “nazis”.
Way to persuade people to see your point, champ. I agree that it’s silly to get upset because it’s not set in today’s world and the changes make it less historically accurate. But your tags do nothing to help your argument. It makes you look whiny.
CaptainNarwhal225
- you're whiny.
- they only changed the auction scene in Paris.
- I feel, for A Pirate themed rid,e it's definitely not necessary to change it, but it's not a crime to get them to stop auctioning off women...
HollowMind There were female pirates idk why you're so pressed
Soon they will replace the guns in their hands with slingshots XD
I dislike the change to the cave before entering the ship battle scene. it used to be dark and ominous. now it's loud and obnoxious. saying "dead men tell no tales" every 3 seconds is annoying. then the mist hologram yelling at you too with the music going. it really ruined one of the more immersive moments in the ride and disrupts the overall pacing and feel.
agree with you there
They’ve now changed it again! I grew up with the Davy Jones mist screen and was always terrified of it, but now there’s a brief display of a pirate who turns into a skeleton as you pass him by (it actually uses a very effective mirror trick!). They brought back the original haunted grotto narration for that section as well!
This used to scare the shit out of me as a child
Yeah. But this is from same ppl that added an Ellen animotronic into the universe of energy ride. The little changes they made are annoying agreed. It’s not that I don’t like change. It feels like a committee came in and patted themselves on the bsck for their ideas and job well done making the ride modern. But walt and the original developers had it right the first time.
Dude, your videos are great. Love em.
Why does this have no likes? Your awesome
we wants the redhead
RhythmGrizz dont be chicken lol
when the log cabin is set on fire that was my fav part..
I know it's stupid and I didn't understand what was going on until know.
RhythmGrizz when they change the scene I will chant that out of protest
They are men. In those people, treated women as dirt and other people who weren't like them and they still are except now this political correctness has made everyone hypocrites.
When I was a kid I wouldn't have understood what any of that stuff meant.
I agree. Most risque things I saw as a kid went completely over my head, it's actually funny for me to think how naive I was back then but that's one of life's fun realizations. However I'm glad that he pointed out that this isn't the first time changes have been made to the park like with the Settler's Cabin example at 3:59 because that is legitimately awful for a few reasons. But for Pirates, I feel like if a kid actually does start asking uncomfortable questions after the ride, all a parent needs to do is have a discussion, simple as that. I guess some folks really are just terrified of talking with their children.
@@SirBuzz That's not how it works
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2:27 Ah yes, pirates. My favorite mythical creature.
That was a weird ass question 😭 lmao
At least it wasn’t like Pirates of the Pancreas in Anatomy Park. Rick wanted a REAL authentic experience with the Pirates which meant no censoring whatsoever.
Another brilliant video!
I personally enjoy seeing Disney attractions evolve through time, like the addition of movie elements to Pirates, the addition of Disney characters to Small World, etc. as long as the main theme and vibe of the original attraction is maintained.
Thank you kind sir! For me, it's a very bittersweet feeling; sad to see beloved attraction elements (or a ride as a whole) go, but enjoy seeing new implementations of creativity and technology...in most cases at least ;)
Yesterworld Entertainment I think it's not for the best, BUT, I would much rather them change one scene then completely remove the entire ride. Something Universal should learn from Disney is don't get rid of classic attractions but keep them and simply update them!
I disagree. I think the movie elements destroy the ride. Feels too commercial. Also, the new story is lame.
There are Disney characters in Small World now?
I saw the original Pirates Of The Caribbean ride, as well as the western scene with the burning cabin during a visit in the summer of 1967. I had no idea that the rides were altered shortly thereafter. Makes me feel rather fortunate.
Your theme park videos are fascinating. I love learning about their histories and changes over the years. As long as you keep making these videos, I will continue to watch them 👍🏻
I mean for me personally i think it’s cool to represent it in a historically accurate way but if I had kids I wouldn’t want them seeing a lot of that stuff tbh...and considering Disneyland is family oriented it’s important to remember that most if not all decisions made to change rides like this is because they want families to feel comfortable and welcome rather than disturbed, even if the disturbing content is the truth. the kids can learn about the gritty stuff when they’re older :)
exactly :)
Don't be so overprotective, you shouldn't care what you're future kids see and Disneyland doesn't have to be overly family oriented, families can't be made to feel comfortable all the time, they need to deal with being disturbed. kids can learn about the gritty stuff anytime.
Great video as always, love the use of Spaceship Earth's Earth for the world at the end. And impeccable timing with Pirates' 50th birthday this week!
Thanks! I'd love to say I brilliantly timed the release of this video to coincide with the anniversary, but believe it or not, it was just a happy accident brought on by computer issues pushing the video from last week :)
Watched it the first time. enjoyed it.
watching it the second time. still gonna enjoy it. 👍😃
Thanks for the understanding. I panicked at the thought of having to re-upload based on incorrect information I gave in my haste to post the video, but this comment helped put me at ease :)
Yesterworld Entertainment Aww. of course! I love your videos. And listen everyone makes mistakes. just makes us human. still doesn't take away from the fact that you make great videos. Keep up the great work! 😄👍😀
Andrew Blossoms I second that!
Love your channel and dedication! Please keep the videos coming!
Dear Yesterworld
How dare you make us so addicted to your videos and have us clamoring for our next fix. PS keep up the good work.
I remember the og ride from when I was like 10 in '93 and we went to CA on vacation, wow that brought back memories! I didn't even know they changed it. wow, awesome work man, keep it up!
i don't mind it. At the end of the day disney is a company and they'll make reasonable changes if they have to protect they're profit.
Have watched every single one of your videos multiple times. Please keep them coming.
I first visited Disney World back in 1972 at age 10. It was beyond magical. And it was affordable and not nearly as crowded at today. I hate how they tampered with Pirates of the Caribbean to make it more politically correct. And I hate the Johnny Depp dolls all over the thing. And I hate how they removed some of Paul Frees' brilliant audio cues.
The removal of the original ride elements is always a bad move. Worldly moments like these are also something to take into account when making a wholesome family experience. You can't just wash them away. Children should also be shown that the world isn't sunshine and happy smiling rainbows all the time, something Walt himself understood and opted to show in the movies he directed. That's why they were there in the first place. The entire concept of Pirates of the Caribbean as an attraction is actually quite gruesome: pirates raid a port town, ransack the village, harm or kill the population, then burn it to the ground. If Disney wanted to make a wholesome family experience, the entire attraction would need to be retooled or be removed entirely. So changes like these baffle me.
Trying to project a world that's sunshine and happy smiling rainbows all the time is basically the Disney theme park brand. What are you talking about?
"This is Pirates of the Caribbean, not Boy Scouts of the Caribbean." -X Atencio
After I seize control of Disney in a hostile takeover, I will change Pirates back to its original 1967 non PC self and even cite that quote as one the main reasons. I also plan on issuing an apology to Atencio's family.
@@SirBuzz No need to be so mad, I mean it's just one ride.
@@SirBuzz yes I am sure. I understand other rides were changed but it was changed and that's it. You shouldn't vouch yourself off of not going to the park ever again.
@@SirBuzz What are you even talking about. The real elephant in the room was that song of the south was a racist movie Disney hates to be reminded of. Not to mention this has nothing to do with Marxism. Maybe do research instead of assuming they used George Floyds death as a ploy to change a ride. You are just mad that one of your favorite rides was changed when in reality the ride is based off the imagineers vision and realism is sprinkled in their. Nostalgia is blocking you from enjoy things.
@@SirBuzz Your the ignorant one here and most childish because oh your favorite ride got switched and it feels like the world has turned it's back on you. Grow up man stop blaming everyone else just because a ride was changed. Also nothing of this conversation was due to money we never even talked about it. I was just saying that you shouldn't get that mad about a ride change but you decided to talk about Marxism and exploitation of someone's death and OF COURSE you bring up the word "agenda".
This channel is absolutely great, I am glad I have stumbled upon it!
I think the ride overalls paints pirates in a friendly and fun light. It makes sense that Disney needed to choose between this and historical accuracy.
The movie was inspired by the ride so I'm a little butthurt that the ride is just the movie now
But I love both so I can't actually be that mad. I've gotten to see both in my lifetime so im satisfied and I'll be forever obsessed with it
Love your theme park history videos! Well done!
I'm glad I experienced this ride several times as a child, teenager and young adult. I will always cherish the memories of the ride back then. I love Paris so this will give me one of many reasons to visit again someday.
I never heard of anyone complaining about the ride being offensive, pirates are criminals, so they are suppose to do bad things it's in their nature and culture, I hope the overly sensitive people are happy now with the changes. Such nonsense.
Another excellent piece here.I for one, do not agree with the changes made to cater to the popularity of the film franchise. It was a ride first, Walt's contributions went into the look and feel of it. I felt like the changes were disrespectful to what he wanted.
Just curious btw... anyone else remember the smell of this ride? waiting in line as well as through the ride? one of the greatest, same as splash mountain. If they could bottle it it'd be called eau de nostalgique :)
Holy shit! I thought I remember seeing some pirates chase around women when I was younger. Of course as a kid I thought nothing of it, but as I grew older and learned about pirates being pillagers, thieves, and rapists, my perspective on that changed a bit....
I also noticed there used to be a menorah in the window of a burning house. Since my last visit to Disneyland it was removed.
I'm alright with rapey elements from a family ride being removed.
So am I.
Aww the ones responsible for such changes
LOVE this channel. Keep these fantastic videos up! My family and I adore hearing about Disney when we can't always be there.✨
The pirates of the Caribbean ride is truly one of/the best ride at Disney land Florida. If u are going there you CANNOT miss this amazing ride as you will remember it forever
Cheese Puff No where near close to being as good as the one in Disneyland. For one thing it's only half the length of the original.
Loved this video as I have all of your vids that I've watched. You did forget one thing though that itself was VERY controversial when "Pirates" first opened--the nude painting of the woman (wearing only a pirate hat and eye patch) that adorns the captain's hidden treasure trove scene. Yeah, you don't really see anything, but as a former Disneylander myself, we were told that Anaheim area preachers were pressuring them to remove it for years!
werent there also real human bones used in skeletons but they were later on replaced with plastic ones at some point.
From what I remember, legend has it the skull on the pirates bed headboard was initially real and eventually replaced, though I can't say for certain. The rumor of all or most of the skeletons being real seems to be an undying myth that (I believe) has been discounted.
MrAnimepredator I thought tht ws jst an urban legend
I really appreciate your video on this. Your ability to remain unbiased and open ended on it was really cool. Just stating the facts as they are and leaving it open to discussion.
I find the changes unnecessary. Too much sensitivity. Are we supposed to wash out history? Part of what I love about history is it's flaws. You don't need to agree with it, but it is an important part of human existence. And to me, quite interesting.
Well according to liberal whiners, history HAS to be re-written to keep from offending them. They truly are ridiculous on a level that never fails to amaze me.
I adore these videos. Found this channel and love the topics. Great job keep up the great work
The parents are to blame.. killing the parks attractions and the original idea that made them walt disney.
BeachsideYeti well... some ideas just aren’t culturally friendly. I would think Walt would appreciate that being a futurist.
I mean I agree that people need to toughen up we also do need to learn how to truly respect all people’s.
Hey idk but I don't think sexual assault is one of those great Disney values
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Are people really claiming "historical accuracy" here? I didn't know Jack Sparrow was a historical figure.
Laura Bow It is one of their buzzwords they employ to bitch about political correctness. It is funny how it is actually they that are the whiniest, not the SWJs. It is called projecting. The internet certainly helps spread this rot. Look at all these commenters bitch about nonsense. One can hope the majority are trolls but with recent politics (the collapse of the establishemnt movement conservatism in the GOP and the rise of right wing politics) I fear it will get worse.
@@irvinortega7 Right? I mean the bride auction scene being taken out was basically due to a few people pointing out "Hey, maybe we should reconsider showing some pretty brazen examples of sexual violence in a ride intended to entertain families" and Disney quietly agreeing, then removing those elements during the next planned maintenance. The anti-SJW crowd would frame it as lines of protesters demanding and threatening Disney with lawsuits unless they change it, because of course any change they don't like is a personal attack on them.
He *was* based on Jack Rackham, an actual pirate.
Laura Bow he is now 😎 🏴☠️ 🏴☠️
Well, the movie tie-in changes are far more offensive than the nonsensical PC changes.
I absolutely love your videos, especially the ones on theme parks. Keep up the fantastic work!!
it's understandable that they updated the ride to reflect current views. To people whining about it...the ride isn't supposed to be a historically accurate depiction of pirates, it's a family friendly ride in a family theme park. If you want to see historical facts and such, watch a documentary.
I'm already a big fan of your channel! Love all the information and can't wait for more videos to come!
Whist watching this I was thinking "I've seen all that and my first time on Pirates of the Caribbean was in 2014!" , until you revealed that Paris was the only one not to change the original story. I guess us Europeans prefer historical accuracy to offending anyone :D
sadly they updated the ride this year to be more like the movie based rides that are almost everywhere else based on what i've heard
lol why are you all looking to Disneyland for historical accuracy ... god forbid DISNEY censors graphic material ... a company built on historical revisionism and fiction ... zippity doo daaaaaa
(also, may i recommend bangs for that forehead?)
Jesus Christ.
You know the scene in the spong Bob movie where king Neptune takes off his crown and blinds everyone? That's what it feels like looking at your profile pic. Try bangs. Maybe wear a beanie.
This is Disneyland and does not need to honour "history". It doesn't have to be historically accurate and I'm glad they've decided to change it.
Yes, pirates did rape women and treat them like they were less than human but, why should we show that to children? You're honestly just a fucking idiot if you can't see how that's harmful.
Ellie Blunden It clearly fucked you up.
@@ellieblunden1463 Calm down there, Karen, it's not as harmful as you make it seem to be lol. When my siblings, friends, and I rode the ride as kids, most of the risque things we saw went completely over our heads. If a child actually does start asking uncomfortable questions after the ride, all a parent needs to do is have a discussion, simple as that. I guess folks like you really are just terrified of talking with their children.
Thankfully, I have the original ride soundtrack on CD as it was sold at Disney World for a while...all the dialog, "We wants the redhead," "Oist me colors on that lass"....all on there. Will guard it with my life.
the sub count here is way too damn low
your channel is so interesting and informative! I hope you keep making videos :D
fish gota swim, pirates gota pillage
Excellent video! I am always interested in things that evolve in rides over the decades, and having the comparisons is perfect!
Can people stop being weird.
What do you want to tell your kids? Pirates plunder only peacefully and killing was forbidden?
it's a fantasy, not a history lesson
we'll burst their bubbles with education later
@@driftingdruid Yes
Your videos are great. The stories behind this stuff is so interesting.
i mean, the changes all make sense, and the pirates are still pretty damn piratical. i don't see a problem
You honestly have great and interesting content. Your content is informative and refreshing, when I show my friends these videos it's a great conversation starter.
a lot of these comments are complaining about "pc culture" and junk but.. it has little to nothing to do with that? it has to do with parents wanting something family friendly to bring their kids on. i mean, i never considered pirates of the caribbean to be a family ride but its disney so what do you expect
Bri Angel This ride is so old and thousands of children have been on it with no problem... but now there's an issue? That's the point.
I was happy to discover your channel today and then saddened to discover you've only posted 8 videos. I can imagine these are quite time consuming.
It's the 50th anniversary of the soft opening of Pirates of the Caribbean!
Is that your voice as well? Your work is so professional, like tv quality!
It is indeed! Having just read a comment comparing my voice to a "6th grader reading a report", your words of positivity are much appreciated!
incredibly glad I was a able to experience it before the change when I was a kid.
love your videos keep them coming my new favorite channel seen all your videos
Frankly, I think the addition of Jack Sparrow was the dumbest change to the ride
It's a family-friendly ride, so the other alterations can be excused a bit, but I think adding Johnny Depp to it made it lose some of the charm that made it a classic
It was a pirate ride with no real cohesive story, just a slice of pirate life. Suddenly, with the addition of the movie references, it lost the element of mystery where you could wonder what the plot was for yourself.
I mean, the ride is still great now, and one of my favorites, but I do miss the fun of piecing together the story on my own.
Ellie i agree but i can see why they did it. it annoys me now and pirates is my favorite ride i wish they would bring it back how it was
Ironic as the movies are INSPIRED by the ride.
You are doing such a great job with these videos.
Is it really so weird for parents to not want to have to explain to their curious children the implications of sexual violence while just trying to have a nice time at Disney World? I get the desire to reject censorship but honestly this is quite dark for a children's ride. I get why people complained.
The argument of historical accuracy also seems weird to me. Like, this ride was never historically accurate lol. It would be much more historically accurate if the pirates didn't sing and actually did rape those women, and then murdered them. Would that make this theme park ride better though?
indeed, historical accuracy does not make a fun ride in a family-friendly park
They shouldn't have ever had these things on a ride at disney world. Ever.
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Nobody on earth cared about the auction scene until it was suggested that it would be removed and then all of a sudden it's everyone's favourite moment from the ride. That scene never got into any of the movies (which was aimed at an older audience where it would be more appropriate), so clearly it was never that iconic. Evidently Disney didn't feel it suited their brand and nobody cared about that part of the ride so they changed it, I really don't think a company as large and powerful as Disney would allow a "SJW" boogeyman influence multi-million dollar refurbishments to their attractions, that's just ridiculous.
It was always my favorite scene and I'm going to put it back the way it was after I seize the Disney company in a hostile takeover. I will be the Donald Trump that Disney needs to make it great again.
“Do you believe in pirates” is my favourite phrase possibly ever
lol yall acting like changing a few unimportant elements ruins the whole thing. it's not a history lesson, but an amusement ride. but in all honesty, pirates weren't good people to start with.
Ah yes keep making subtle small changes to remove offense material and using that as the prime motivation for the updates (and not expanding the ride, or updating to show more modern technology in animatronics, or features, or story development) and eventually the guns will be removed with slingshots and the pirates won’t speak in old timey slurs because it’s racist or something. But what difference does it make, it’s all for amusement, doesn’t matter if the pirate ride isn’t pirates anymore 🙄
Dominant Wolf theyre probably the same type of person who wanted splash mountain to change haha
Thank you for another intriguing video. LOVE all the history on the Disney parks!
They finally did get rid of the bride auction in the ride
Fantastic videos, I'm hooked! Please make more!
Disneyland will never be complete as long as the current management finds new ways to screw up classic rides.
great channel man, keep up the great videos.
It's also not accurate because women were not allowed on ships due to superstition.
I guess I wasn't paying much attention the last time I went to Disneyland, but is 5:49 meant to imply that the cigars from both Pinocchio and Roger Rabbit were removed?
I’m still here in 2019 when the auction scene is gone, but I’m still shouting “we wants the red head.”
Your a hero to future generations.
Now the controversy is JOHNNY FUCK1NG DEEP
Yeah, I'm 45, went to Orlando Disney World when I was super young, and I remember some parts that were removed later. It made me feel awful even then, the idea of women running from men. That horrible theme should be gotten rid of. If Disney was actually trying to pay honor to reality, most of these rides would either not exist at all, or they would be blood and horror shows of human atrocities. Pirates should be re-thought and the sexually suggestive threads removed entirely.
2:35 I took a trip up to Lake Placid with a brief stop at the Barkeater Chocolates factory store in North Creek on the exact day that marked the 50th anniversary of that fateful moment for the company.
I wish it was possible to easily RETRO-fit (hah, see what I did there?) the rides to original versions for special occasions.
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Pirates are not PC.
exactly
ITS A FUCKING KIDS RIDE. if you have a problem with it being G rated, go get an adult hobby instead of obsessing over a theme park for children.
@@Dvgteeth It's NOT a children's ride, numbskull. You need to get this in your head once and for all: Disneyland is NOT for kids. Never has been and never will be. "You're dead if you aim for kids, adults are just kids grown up anyway." - Walt Disney
I loved the original ride. Older children (meaning Some teens) and adults would have likely been the main ones to notice like that. Disney should have kept it the way it was and made no changes after all Pirates of the Caribbean movies have just as much risque scenes.
i wish they kept it pg 13/ pg
Published this video a few weeks too soon! Still covered the auction though and the video was very well done.
About 3 months to soon, but at least I called it?
I said a few weeks. You know because they announced they're changing the auction scene and all? If the video was made after the fact you could have added that Disney was in fact changing that scene to whatever it'll be. Before any of that was announced though you discussed how it was a big deal and that a change might happen.... you called it before it happened.
Historically correct? It is a ride in an AMUSEMENT park.
Love your videos! Keep them coming!
If it's out dated and would effect children that are impressionable, it is better to scrap it for something that is more family friendly.
When I went to Disney World in the mid 90s, the scene of the drunk pirate on the cannon, & possibly the pirate ship, weren't moving or lit.
That's ridiculous to change Walt Disney's dream because people felt whiney and prideful against historic accuracy.
Yup, if we don't like something it's "Don't watch/attend if you don't like it." If they(SJW Marxists) don't like something it's 'change it/ get rid of it, now!!!' We must stop this scourge.
Sage-Bong that and Walt Disney wanted Disney land/world to be a place where it could change and evolve with the times.
I love the pirates ride. The line is always the quickest
People whine to much these days.
wwall57 People don’t know proper grammar these days. too*
I think it isn't asking too much to not include rape in a Disney ride
Demond Wilson bro shutup you can't censor history if you don't like it don't come idiot
He said whinily...
Love the art from when Walt passed, thank you for including it!