All through middle and high school I flew scratch built control line planes. The combination of the smell of castor oil, ringing ears, dizziness and cut fingers can't be beat.
Never mind the haters, anyone who flies nitro engines knows, every time you step up to light the fires, it can be a one flip or no start at all. I am putting together a Brodak kit now. Local hobby shop had it marked wrong and I got it for $40! Went back the next week and bought the only Cox engine they had on the shelf... a Venom II for $79! I hope to fly it on new years 2022!
I remember back when you could buy a cox .049 control line plastic plane at yellow front or western auto. That was the good old days. I did love the smell of that fuel.
Thank you for your attention to control line models! I built this particular model in my very early teens. Built a lot of the "Scientific Mfg." kits. Carl Goldberg "Lil Satan" too. Oh, those were the days. The sweet sound of an .049!!! Would love to do it again before I go. Best wishes to you.
Brings back a lot of good memories fro 1952-53. Flew a bunch of these little screamers and loved every minute! Also had (and still have) an outboard engine built around a Cox .049 that I ran on an 18 inch 3 point hydro on Stowe Lake in San Francico's Golden Gate Park. Went across the lake like a scalded cat!! Fun-fun and more fun!!
We used to have a blast with the little o49 planes. I had a "little stinker" similar to the toot. Scratch built alot of planes. We'd have backyard parties and let anyone that wanted to give it a try fly these things. Some of the girls did a pretty good job flying. I wish the Cox engines were still easy to find and not so expensive. I'd build some more!
Great! L'il Toots are a lot of fun as a free flight with a Pee Wee .020, they spiral up pretty quick, watch how much fuel you have, but the glide is pretty brisk back down too.
Kids today have no patience. I recall fondly all the times my friends and I would spend fifteen minutes trying to start the engine, only to be rewarded with fewer than two or three minutes flying time. /s
Always remember this Welsh guy watching two young lads unsuccessfully trying to start a small diesel powered plane. His comment ""Go play with the girls "". In a Welsh accent.
Ah fond memories of my older brothers flying these. Funny you could go the the local hobby shop and buy one for about$25 to 30 bucks 20 to 40 year’s ago now. They sell for over 250 bucks on eBay and one that is in excellent condition in the box close to 400 bucks
i flew RC for years thru 80's and into about 2010, 049 is a cool engine but i always had trouble starting. i did some control line. dizzy just thinking about it.!!!
I had one of these when I was flying a bunch of different 1/2A CL planes in Jr High. A crash damaged the upper wing struts but the rest of the plane was ok. I flew it with the lower wing only and to me it actually flew better that way.
I flew mine on 30 foot dacron lines. It flew ok although a little spongy in the controls. At 25 feet it became fast and squirrelly. Maybe because of the dizzy effect. I did loops, wingovers, figure eights and upside down, over head circles and slackline flying in the wind. I miss that but I still have a couple of engines and two airplanes of my own design. I need to get back into it.
I'm not sure what the point of this video is. Over have of it is spent looking at the pavement while the plane sputters. The rest is a bit of a let down
Cox reed vslve engines were so easy to start! Yes, needed to open the needle valve. Four turns open when cold, prime, connect battery, usually start within three or four spins. Lean it out to peak by turning valve in and go. The needle valve was under the top wing of the Little Toot. They said to reach under and turn it with one finger. This worked on the old reed valve engines with a larger knob on the needle valve, but later engines with small knob, forget it. I drilled a hole in the top wing and stuck a piece of plastic tubing through it and gorced it over the needle valve knob. Thst was my handle.
I built and flew control line back in the mid-1950s. I loved it. My favorite planes were Sterling Ringmasters with a McCoy .35 Redhead engine. I might still have some of these old engines around. Amboid cement, nitrate dope and balsa were smells that filled my bedroom during those wonderful years. Kids today, don't know what they're missing. This hobby taught basic skills with simple tools, planning, patience and creativity. I don't see these things with computer games.
The McCoys were the most hard starting engines I ever had but the Fox 35 was reliable.The kids now days don't have the patients to build a kit.We had real fun as a kid with all the great gas engine toys.I had probably every toy Cox made and then got into large control line planes and all the people in my neighborhood knew when I was out playing.We have great memories as a child but what memories will these kids of today look back on?
great fun in the early 1960's for me too. i only had the 049 control line planes and 020 and 010 cox for freeflight planes. i built my planes from sterling and guillow kits. i always wanted one of those big .35 or .50 motors but when i got older and big enough to handle them i had lost interest.
I was there flying control line models, but in the early 1960s. You are SO right about the smells of the fuel, the dope (paint, not drugs!) the Ambroid cement and the outright joy of flying those models. I first flew a full tank of fuel flying a Baby Ringmaster in March of 1962 as a 12 year old. That was the beginning of my flying career that continues today at 74. Those control line models led me to a career in the sky flying big commercial airliners all over the world. Retired from United as a 767 captain at age 65, but am still flying professionally in a corporate jet. All thanks to those little control line models I flew as a kid.
I found when you are having a hard start condition refill the fuel tank with your thumb over the other port it pushes fuel past the screen and primes the motor .
Seeing all these C/L videos makes me want to do it again. I flew them from 1973 to 1981 when I took up RC. Carl Goldberg's Stuntman 23 was the best in my opinion. I went through 4 of them, the last with a screaming Tee Dee .049 that made it ten times more fun.
Every Cox .049 airplane I tried was 20 minutes of finger-busting frustration getting it to run followed by a high-speed wingover into the dirt. I don't think I've ever seen such a small plane fly so well. Nice job!
Mi primer avión fué un Stuka de plástico regalo de mi padre,y luego seguí construyendo mis propios aviones.El primero con cox 0.49 y luego con Diesel y Mc Coy 0.35 .Bs As.Argentina.
I would like to thank you for bringing back the memories from my youth.its been years since I heard the sounds I heard in my youth. The children of today may never enjoy the happiness of building a model plane and flying it for the first time. Again I say thanks . By the way I am 72 and miss this.
@@richardivy8403 As long as it's NOT an "If"😃 But a "When" will most definitely be a sure thing! I wish you the best my friend! Go and have some fun again! Best regards!
As a kid in the early 70s, I had multiple Cox models with the .049 cu. in. engines. Those buggers we're no two alike. Some, you'd spend 20 minutes flipping the prop to get it started, but I had a couple that would fire on the first or second try. I had one from the Miss America P-51 that would run almost 20 minutes on a tank of fuel. I still get dizzy thinking about that old Mustang.
AWSOME!!!!! Are you DIZZY YET???? I got dizzy just watching it. Brings back memories of my childhood. Unfortunately I never got through an entire tank of fuel. Good job!!! Nicely done!!
I've never had a problem starting my Cox .049 Black Widow... But then again, I hooked up my glow wires to my power panel, shot fuel in the ports, held a thumb over the intake to draw fuel, give it a few flicks with the spring starter and then increased the voltage slightly and then she would start right up and run like a raped ape🦧! Couldn't have run any better. The trick to starting these Cox engines is to prime them good, and make sure your batteries are good. Preferably have a six volt battery with a potentiometer attached to your starter wire so you can add a little bit of fire in your wire. Just make sure the engine is primed really good and you squirt some fuel into the ports first and then slightly increase the voltage, flip the prop, and adjust the mixture screw to lean it out some but leave it on the rich side. That would make your starting problems a whole lot easier. After your done flying for the day. Take the engine apart and soak everything in glow fuel for a couple of hours and the reassemble. And you should be ready to go the next time you fly. Alot of folks have problems starting these engines, but like everything else, you MUST maintain it by thoroughly cleaning it after a flight session at the end of the day. Alot of the problems are small amounts of debris that gets into the engine through the intake. Hope this helps!
Very good advice, but I never needed to disassemble the engine after every session; imho it could cause problems with air leaks etc. I never had problems starting Cox 049, except when they ran backwards!!! A good prime and a rich setting is the thing - and a good battery. The fresh fuel will clear out any sticking or goo from the last session- just be patient. The above over-prime will sometimes drench the plug and you have to wait for the plug to boil dry - makes a sizzling sound like frying sausages!! Btw, nowadays - 60 years later - i use a Norvel electric starter made for 049's. (low inertia, small elec motor, and high speed).... Lazy lazy...
@@fergusreid7118 Nothing wrong with being "lazy" using an electric start. After 60 years of flipping these small engines the fingers need a little rest! You take care my friend and keep on enjoying the flights and hope you have many soft landings!
I SO remember this model from the early 1960s when I was a control line flyer. Those .049 engines and planes such as the Baby Ringmaster and Baby Flight streak led me to a 29 year career as a pilot for United Airlines.
Hey guys here's an open invitation to participate in a virtual Fun Fly in Real Flight Multiplayer field "Montana Madness" every Tuesday night 9pm-10:15pm. It's a lot of fun with RC pilots from all over the world. Spread the word.
Was a p in the a to start those 0.49, but when they start to run the sound was like music, and the smell of the burned fuel so great! The best memories of childhood. I still have a pt 19 from cox and the jumping bean.
Wow that brings back memories of my childhood 1960s and my Lil Stinker U-control biplane. Took forever to start that plane and I never thought my index finger would ever be the same from the nylon prop kick backs and the nitro fuel in the freshly cut finger. I loved every minute of those days.
That was 2 1/2 minutes of my life wasted waiting for you to start the engine. Maybe you should edit more intellengently & yah, I had one in the 60’s, also!
All through middle and high school I flew scratch built control line planes. The combination of the smell of castor oil, ringing ears, dizziness and cut fingers can't be beat.
You are absolutely right.
You aren't the only one.
Yep my fingers show the fun still 30yrs later..wouldn't trade the scars for anything though!
Yep, many a lap has bee flow with a bloody control handle.
pretty much sums it up!
These were so much fun in the 70s. What memories. Thanks
Never mind the haters, anyone who flies nitro engines knows, every time you step up to light the fires, it can be a one flip or no start at all.
I am putting together a Brodak kit now. Local hobby shop had it marked wrong and I got it for $40! Went back the next week and bought the only Cox engine they had on the shelf... a Venom II for $79! I hope to fly it on new years 2022!
School parking lots, exactly where I started flying these when I was a kid. Great video.
I remember back when you could buy a cox .049 control line plastic plane at yellow front or western auto. That was the good old days. I did love the smell of that fuel.
I rememeber 35 ft lines for 049 models.............good job holding up thru the whole flight...........👍👍👍
Thank you for your attention to control line models! I built this particular model in my very early teens. Built a lot of the "Scientific Mfg." kits. Carl Goldberg "Lil Satan" too. Oh, those were the days. The sweet sound of an .049!!! Would love to do it again before I go. Best wishes to you.
Brings back a lot of good memories fro 1952-53. Flew a bunch of these little screamers and loved every minute! Also had (and still have) an outboard engine built around a Cox .049 that I ran on an 18 inch 3 point hydro on Stowe Lake in San Francico's Golden Gate Park. Went across the lake like a scalded cat!! Fun-fun and more fun!!
Hell Yeah I want one of these, great to see people enjoying control line, A Big Thumbs Up
We used to have a blast with the little o49 planes. I had a "little stinker" similar to the toot. Scratch built alot of planes. We'd have backyard parties and let anyone that wanted to give it a try fly these things. Some of the girls did a pretty good job flying. I wish the Cox engines were still easy to find and not so expensive. I'd build some more!
Great flight, brings back so memories of comp. U-control stunt flying ......Thank you
Great! L'il Toots are a lot of fun as a free flight with a Pee Wee .020, they spiral up pretty quick, watch how much fuel you have, but the glide is pretty brisk back down too.
Kids today have no patience. I recall fondly all the times my friends and I would spend fifteen minutes trying to start the engine, only to be rewarded with fewer than two or three minutes flying time. /s
The hours of my golden youth spent trying to start glow plug engines! The battery was always flat!
Always remember this Welsh guy watching two young lads unsuccessfully trying to start a small diesel powered plane. His comment ""Go play with the girls "". In a Welsh accent.
That sound sure brings back memories. I used to have a Lil' Jumpin' Bean. Started out with a Cox PT 19.
Brings back a lot of great memories of my early days in Model Aviation. Now, If you could only smell the Nitro, Butyrate, and Ambroid Glue we used.
Dang, I just remembered I had one of these.
Ah fond memories of my older brothers flying these. Funny you could go the the local hobby shop and buy one for about$25 to 30 bucks 20 to 40 year’s ago now. They sell for over 250 bucks on eBay and one that is in excellent condition in the box close to 400 bucks
Best youngster hobby!
Good Memories!
As a kid I could play with Cox and Testors planes for hours. As an adult watching them on my computer makes me dizzy.
Cierto!
Persistence pays off with little glow motors. That and fresh fuel and a good battery😂
And glow plug
Doesn't change how they start but I cuss a bit between primes.
A friend and I built a pair of these mid 80s. They were pretty indestructible when flown over grass.
i flew RC for years thru 80's and into about 2010, 049 is a cool engine but i always had trouble starting. i did some control line. dizzy just thinking about it.!!!
Damned infernal machines. I got one of those to run, once.
I made and flew one of these in my early teens. I found it to be a most responsive plane in a hurry. 😃
I had one with a .010 on it flew GREAT but a little underpowered but it LOVED TO DO LOOPS ..
Always remember that sound at the school yard and sweet smell of castor😎you could get ringmaster and McCoy for under$15
I had one of these when I was flying a bunch of different 1/2A CL planes in Jr High. A crash damaged the upper wing struts but the rest of the plane was ok. I flew it with the lower wing only and to me it actually flew better that way.
these were popular in the 80’s. the ones by cox
Can't let it drift off center , out of the circle - too many things to hit - fight that dizziness !!
Well, sat here and waited for over half the video for it to get started....
Believe me, some of us waited way more than that to get these things going.
You're lucky it didn't start backwards when you dorked the prop on takeoff!
If its to fast put a mesh screen head on it , that will tame it down a whole lot
You don't want to slow it down if you wish to fly stunts like loops and the like. String tension is critical.
Can’t see plane but part off it when trying to start ? WTF over ? I love line control models !
vc esta filmando o piso?
Too lean
I made 2 of them used a bit of fuel hose on the needle valve
Open the damn needle valve more
2:30 engine start
How long are the lines?
29 feet. darren
I flew mine on 30 foot dacron lines. It flew ok although a little spongy in the controls. At 25 feet it became fast and squirrelly. Maybe because of the dizzy effect. I did loops, wingovers, figure eights and upside down, over head circles and slackline flying in the wind.
I miss that but I still have a couple of engines and two airplanes of my own design.
I need to get back into it.
You could have easily started this at 2 mins in. Kinda cut to the chase. Thanks though.
Aí minha labirintite hahahahah
Don't FUI(fly under the influence)Wow !!!!!!cute plane ,but a spinner
I made one of those,
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz waiting for it to start
I'm not sure what the point of this video is. Over have of it is spent looking at the pavement while the plane sputters. The rest is a bit of a let down
You never forget the sound of an .049 engine. Once you got it started and found the sweet spot it sounded great. Brings back memories, thankyou.
My mind was screaming: Open a half turn...
Cox reed vslve engines were so easy to start! Yes, needed to open the needle valve.
Four turns open when cold, prime, connect battery, usually start within three or four spins. Lean it out to peak by turning valve in and go.
The needle valve was under the top wing of the Little Toot. They said to reach under and turn it with one finger. This worked on the old reed valve engines with a larger knob on the needle valve, but later engines with small knob, forget it. I drilled a hole in the top wing and stuck a piece of plastic tubing through it and gorced it over the needle valve knob. Thst was my handle.
I built and flew control line back in the mid-1950s. I loved it. My favorite planes were Sterling Ringmasters with a McCoy .35 Redhead engine. I might still have some of these old engines around. Amboid cement, nitrate dope and balsa were smells that filled my bedroom during those wonderful years. Kids today, don't know what they're missing. This hobby taught basic skills with simple tools, planning, patience and creativity. I don't see these things with computer games.
The McCoys were the most hard starting engines I ever had but the Fox 35 was reliable.The kids now days don't have the patients to build a kit.We had real fun as a kid with all the great gas engine toys.I had probably every toy Cox made and then got into large control line planes and all the people in my neighborhood knew when I was out playing.We have great memories as a child but what memories will these kids of today look back on?
great fun in the early 1960's for me too. i only had the 049 control line planes and 020 and 010 cox for freeflight planes. i built my planes from sterling and guillow kits. i always wanted one of those big .35 or .50 motors but when i got older and big enough to handle them i had lost interest.
I was there flying control line models, but in the early 1960s. You are SO right about the smells of the fuel, the dope (paint, not drugs!) the Ambroid cement and the outright joy of flying those models. I first flew a full tank of fuel flying a Baby Ringmaster in March of 1962 as a 12 year old. That was the beginning of my flying career that continues today at 74. Those control line models led me to a career in the sky flying big commercial airliners all over the world. Retired from United as a 767 captain at age 65, but am still flying professionally in a corporate jet. All thanks to those little control line models I flew as a kid.
I found when you are having a hard start condition refill the fuel tank with your thumb over the other port it pushes fuel past the screen and primes the motor .
Seeing all these C/L videos makes me want to do it again. I flew them from 1973 to 1981 when I took up RC. Carl Goldberg's Stuntman 23 was the best in my opinion. I went through 4 of them, the last with a screaming Tee Dee .049 that made it ten times more fun.
I had two Stuntman 23's. I think you are correct. The memories!!
Every Cox .049 airplane I tried was 20 minutes of finger-busting frustration getting it to run followed by a high-speed wingover into the dirt.
I don't think I've ever seen such a small plane fly so well. Nice job!
Those were the days!
Great video, It was fun to relive my youth for a minute.
Many hours spend building and flying control line. Worked my way up to full size planes at 16.
Mi primer avión fué un Stuka de plástico regalo de mi padre,y luego seguí construyendo mis propios aviones.El primero con cox 0.49 y luego con Diesel y Mc Coy 0.35 .Bs As.Argentina.
Burning off the prime. Open the needle valve 1/8th turn. Make sure no obstruction in fuel supply line. Happy aviating.
Too lean
I would like to thank you for bringing back the memories from my youth.its been years since I heard the sounds I heard in my youth. The children of today may never enjoy the happiness of building a model plane and flying it for the first time. Again I say thanks . By the way I am 72 and miss this.
I know such a feeling mister.
It's never too late to do it again!
Go and have some more fun and relive those memories of your youth!
@@SolarReturn1966 i.m going to see what I can find. But you know what is said that,"WHEN
@@richardivy8403 As long as it's NOT an "If"😃
But a "When" will most definitely be a sure thing! I wish you the best my friend! Go and have some fun again!
Best regards!
Kids today could not sit for hours building a balsa wood model airplane. They don't have the patience or attention span we had as kids in the 1960s.
I had a wen Mac P39 Aircrobra. Fun to fly.
As a kid in the early 70s, I had multiple Cox models with the .049 cu. in. engines. Those buggers we're no two alike. Some, you'd spend 20 minutes flipping the prop to get it started, but I had a couple that would fire on the first or second try. I had one from the Miss America P-51 that would run almost 20 minutes on a tank of fuel. I still get dizzy thinking about that old Mustang.
Damn temperamental knuckle biters
“Little toot”
That’s my new rapper name now.
Have one same color-----too pretty for me to crash.
AWSOME!!!!! Are you DIZZY YET???? I got dizzy just watching it. Brings back memories of my childhood. Unfortunately I never got through an entire tank of fuel. Good job!!! Nicely done!!
At 73 id get dizzy and fall on my A$$
I've never had a problem starting my Cox .049 Black Widow...
But then again, I hooked up my glow wires to my power panel, shot fuel in the ports, held a thumb over the intake to draw fuel, give it a few flicks with the spring starter and then increased the voltage slightly and then she would start right up and run like a raped ape🦧!
Couldn't have run any better.
The trick to starting these Cox engines is to prime them good, and make sure your batteries are good. Preferably have a six volt battery with a potentiometer attached to your starter wire so you can add a little bit of fire in your wire. Just make sure the engine is primed really good and you squirt some fuel into the ports first and then slightly increase the voltage, flip the prop, and adjust the mixture screw to lean it out some but leave it on the rich side. That would make your starting problems a whole lot easier.
After your done flying for the day. Take the engine apart and soak everything in glow fuel for a couple of hours and the reassemble.
And you should be ready to go the next time you fly.
Alot of folks have problems starting these engines, but like everything else, you MUST maintain it by thoroughly cleaning it after a flight session at the end of the day.
Alot of the problems are small amounts of debris that gets into the engine through the intake.
Hope this helps!
Very good advice, but I never needed to disassemble the engine after every session; imho it could cause problems with air leaks etc. I never had problems starting Cox 049, except when they ran backwards!!! A good prime and a rich setting is the thing - and a good battery. The fresh fuel will clear out any sticking or goo from the last session- just be patient. The above over-prime will sometimes drench the plug and you have to wait for the plug to boil dry - makes a sizzling sound like frying sausages!! Btw, nowadays - 60 years later - i use a Norvel electric starter made for 049's. (low inertia, small elec motor, and high speed).... Lazy lazy...
@@fergusreid7118 Nothing wrong with being "lazy" using an electric start. After 60 years of flipping these small engines the fingers need a little rest! You take care my friend and keep on enjoying the flights and hope you have many soft landings!
Anyone else fly the “lil satin” models??? Build, fly, crash, repair, repeat !!!! 1975-1978!!!
Just built and sold one with cox 049
Yep, built two and flew them, great little stunter, also a few scratch built too, loved them 049 cox engines, practically indestructible.
The sound is like a lot of summer days as a kid. Late 60s and early 70s were a lot of fun.
I SO remember this model from the early 1960s when I was a control line flyer. Those .049 engines and planes such as the Baby Ringmaster and Baby Flight streak led me to a 29 year career as a pilot for United Airlines.
Tak zaczynałem przygodę z modelarstwem lotniczym 👍👋😁🛩️
Muy buen video jjj motores cox y vuelo circular
I built one, it was a first flight victim. I had to build a Ringmaster to get CL flying down, then I could fly ½A but I didn't build a second Lil Toot
The top wing tended to fall off after a couple of landings. It didn't fly that badly with just the lower wing.
Le contrôle line. Ainsi sans intérêt
Pour la maternelle .....!! Bof bof
I have a big scale p51 D control line plane that takes a big .60 that's always been a shelf queen
This is basically where I started
little toot
Starts at 2:40
Dommage que se soit mal filmé
Do some loops, I'm gona puke!
ROCK ON A STRING...!!!
I put only a single ported .049 on it.
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Love you brother. I still have my Toot, and the box it came in. A lovely design. Starting the engine.....same as you.
Was a p in the a to start those 0.49, but when they start to run the sound was like music, and the smell of the burned fuel so great! The best memories of childhood. I still have a pt 19 from cox and the jumping bean.
Wow that brings back memories of my childhood 1960s and my Lil Stinker U-control biplane. Took forever to start that plane and I never thought my index finger would ever be the same from the nylon prop kick backs and the nitro fuel in the freshly cut finger. I loved every minute of those days.
Ha! The little Toot was my second control line plane which got me started in the hobby about 55 years ago. I still have the bits and pieces of it!
Wasting your life ends at 2:55. You're welcome.
CL great to fly just boring to watch 😄
I feel sick going round and round.
Nice
YEAY!!!!!
2:26
This video made me dizzy!
That was 2 1/2 minutes of my life wasted waiting for you to start the engine. Maybe you should edit more intellengently & yah, I had one in the 60’s, also!