What is going on between Dana White and Cris Cyborg?
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2019
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Chael Sonne discusses the situation between UFC President Dana White and former Champ Cris Cyborg. - Розваги
After hearing both sides, and reviewing video evidence, the clear conclusion is that Chael is still the undisputed 🐐
You Suck
An Dana has always been a liar
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All right,then we can continue ...💪
Dana made that relationship toxic long before invicta mma.this all on mma media
Cyborg - I want the rematch right away
Amanda - cyborg has to wait 2 years for a rematch
Dana - cyborg does not want the rematch
Dana = TOXIC. Pretend tough-guy wanting too much of a profile on the backs of real tough-guys.
yeah because a relationship is the same as a contract... LOL
RedoranGuard's-SkyrimBattles true. But the one thing Tito made sure of is, that any money the promotion makes off a fighter. The fighter will get a good chuck of it. Tito learned early in his career that Dana and the promotion are not his friend. Dana hates the fact that Tito was able to make money without the ufc Getting any of it .
Winston Brown at least several fighters have clued in to Dana and his toxicity
Dana is a piece of shit and Amanda is a coward on peds
I think it's fairly simple. Cyborg was upset at Dana and Rogan for using their platform to make fun of her prior to her signing. Which caused her real problems, even lead to her daughter being bullied. And then she loses to Amanda. Cyborg asked for a rematch immediately and publicly. Amanda turned it down publicly. So cyborg had to take another fight and listen to the promoter tell the world she's looking for easier fights. Which nobody believes
Completely wrong mate. I feel bad for Chris daughter, but this all kinda hit the fan when she decided to take loads of anabolic steroids and beat up on far smaller, less experienced and CLEAN women. Jokes about her looking like a dude and having a penis are consequences of her actions. Its not dana’s fault, it’s not joes fault that her daughter is getting bullied. After all that, she goes to sign a contract with exactly; them.. gets popped again for a diuretic, eh no biggie... fights a couple fights, all cool, fights nunes, looses, and here we are. She does not want that second fight with nunes. I 100% believe that. A lot of shit can be said publicly without it being meant.
Facts
Absolutely,I heard it immediately after her loss. Amanda said she wanted her to wait 2 years. I wouldn't doubt if Dana been chirping in Amanda's ear.
Cyborg never wanted to fight amanda in the first place. If you remember, Amanda campaigned for that fight for a long time and Cyborg kept turning it down and fighting scrub fighters. Then she finally took the fight, lost, then put out a fake video of Dana that was literally fakely edited and was caught. Then she put out an apology after being caught. She never wanted to fight Nunes. Ever. She did everything she could to not fight her except for say to you (the public eye) that she did want to fight her.
@johnnydaniels18 Chael constantly spreads misinformation..
I heard about cyborg getting paid by zuffa from chael years ago. Chael quietly breaks more news than okamoto and helwani combined
Yet she keeps whining and complaining about how she's been treated unfair by the UFC. She's a proven cheater, and cheaters know how to lie well.
@@mrYsignal By cheating I assume you mean using PEDs. If the penalty for cheating was being banned from the sport, there wouldn't be enough current fighters to have a UFC. (Nor enough riders for a Tour de France)
Um, as soon as they bought Strikeforce you should have known just by basic logic. edit: Zuffa owns Invicta too
@David Osborne think he means he BROKE the news years ago, and people think they are just now breaking the news haha
Dana cant afford to let anyone do what she did, just like dana wont even let conor take advantage.
If Chael doesn’t even know what’s going on, how can any of us mere mortals understand ?!?!?!!
Chael isn't too stupid to see that the UFC is bullying Cyborg but has to play dumb to protect his precious Dana relationship.
@@agenthex thanks. This is obvious. Bullying and disrespecting
@@agenthex awk ssshhh
Dana White saying "She looks like Wanderlei Silva in a dress" might have something to do with it.
Buried the hatchet and decided to work for him anyways all those years ago...
Dana also said that when Cyborg didn't even understand English.. That's fucking cold man. #mutedanawhite
I agree. It wasn't professional whatsoever.
She does look like a guy
Exactly. Chael sounding like a real company man here. It's not all about the money, Chael. You can take a raise at work and still hate your boss.
Most people don't know that, Chael has been ghost writing for Kendrick Lamar......
"" Be Humble ... Bitch sit down. "" It's pretty clear to me Kendrick Lamars ghost writer is khabib nurmagomedov
LoL
I've never seen chael and Kendrick in the same room.
@@mistersonnen848 of course not it's a secret
@@keyodi they're the same people
I think Dana fell in love and Cyborg resisted his advances
Nailed it!!!🤫
I don't think Dana is gay.
Dana wanted his face sat on and cyborgs bf messed up the deal.
@Aye Bossman lol
@@Tommyboy574 💀💀
Without the subtitles the conversation still favored Cyborg.
"Cyborg was a dirty fighter!"
"Jon is a dirty fighter but he puts food on my table more than her so..."
You guys act like she got fired for being dirty
@@BLACKmaigc Fact is that Dana kinda wants that to be the reason for his way dealing with the situation.
She is only dirty because she is a roider.
@@natel9019 she is not you clown
@@hondamanvtec2894 You could be on steroids if you injected her blood in to you.
She has more testosterone than a15 year old kid.
Dana White VS Cris Cyborg!!! Needs to happen on the same card as Joe Rogan Vs BJ Penn.... Dominic Cruz Vs Micheal Bisping.... Justin Beber Vs SteveO... Amanda Nunes Vs Henry Cejudo....
And add Tom Cruise vs Justin Bieber for the main event and I think it will break ppv records.
It's obvious. Cyborg wanted Nunez with a new contract. Dana wanted the fight as her last fight.
Seems reasonable
@@rationalguardian2297 ive heard from a few people cyborg was affraid to fight amanda again. I heard dana gave her the option to fight her again and she said no. She chose the easier fight to win.
@@sariahreigns3666 That's clearly not true cause you watch her post fight interview, she says she wants a rematch. Then when you watch Amanda Nunes post fight interview, she says she wants to fight at 135 next, not a rematch.
@@rationalguardian2297 but if Cyborg won the belt in her last fight, the contract auto-renews, isn't that how it works in the UFC?
@@sariahreigns3666 “I heard”….Seems credible
Imagine a Dana White Cris Cyborg baby.....
THaNoS?
Well considering Cris was born with XY chromosomes, that my friend is physically impossible
@@sourcelight3448 ukno Cyborg already Had/Has a kid right...
Dana White natural looked like a skinny hobo
@@johntrudell8023 No, he adopted a kid. Look into it
better cyborg and ngannou
I want to see the best fighters. Not only the people Dana currently likes.
Agreed
It's fucking criminal, (not literally obviously), that in the UFC they haven't yet created some sort of ranking/bracket which determines who fighters fight, rather than Dana and his match makers having unilateral decision over who a fighter fights. It fuckin disgusting. Cyborg got put to sleep by Nunes no doubt, but that was literally her first fuckin loss in 13 effin fights, fights where Cyrborg didn't just win - but absolutely maul her opponents even worse than what Nunes did to her. It's fuckin despicable the way Dana treated her, (and many/most fighters for that matter), because it was/is obvious that there simply is NOT A SINGLE OTHER FEMALE FIGHTER out there that stands a chance against either Nunes or Cyborg, The fact that they didn't get a rematch is a travesty, maybe not an automatic one, but eventually. It's obvious plain as day that Dana hated/hates Cyborg and she has even more legit of a reason to despise him as well. Could you imagine Liddell, Anderson Silva, GSP, or any other legendary fighter in the ufc, (and yes Cyborg is similarly on that same level for women's fighting, at least the second female fighter of all time for fuck's sake), could you imagine when GSP got ok'd by Matt Sera, that he wouldn't have given GSP a either an immediate rematch or at least what he ended up doing, doing everything possible to keep him in the promotion and give him two fights before having the rematch we all knew was coming?! How the fuck can the personal grudge of a single egomaniacal dick determine who fights who at any given time. Since she's left to Bellator Cyrborg has continued to dominate everyone in front of her. If Dana wasn't such an arrogant ass, he would have done everything possible to keep Cyborg in the UFC. Oh, then there's also all the fucked shit he said about her which is ridiculously unprofessional to say the least.
I dont feel like it wasn't so "all of a sudden" as you beleive. This relationship has been tarnished well before this.
Right
CWALLACETV Danas job is to give fans the fight they want and match up the top ranked fighters. Cyborg and Nunes are like 2 of the top 3 in womens MMA. Cyborg an Nunes want to fight. Dana is trying r
Keep his big female money maker a champ champ.
Connor Phebus agreed with everything u said but like her or not Cyborg pulls bigger numbers then Amanda
You're forgetting the "Wanderlei Silva in a dress" comment among other things
Thing is she really did look Silva in a dress
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq I know she did, but that's not why I brought it up. It was something she was upset about (I don't think Dana ever apologised either) and a reason her and Dana never got on, amongst other shit that happened.
What's wrong with speaking the truth?
Günther Jauch you are an idiot
Dude she was on stanozolol SHE did look like wanderlei silva.
Dana lies so often how could he have any credibility at all at this point? How many fights have been promised ?
True and OG MMA fans (not ones that are ignorant fans from late 2018) know Conor is a better fighter than Khabib, better precision, better timing, more powerful WAY faster and WAY more agile, can counter way better than Khabib (Khabib cant even counter), he can throw killer kicks (Khabib cant even kick) and he is better at Khabibs turf (Ground) than Khabib is at Conors turf (standup and striking), he was rusty against Khabib, all he needs to do is work on stamina/cardio and a bit on jiu jitsu he would rip khabibs head off. Conor's composure and footwork was also off and there was more action in the aftermath, there should be a rematch, and for khabib fans who have a SEVERE disconnect with reality and have a mental capacity of a dead squirrels genitals who go "Haha McTapper mcnugget irish loser" You would also tap, jesus christ even Joe Rogan mocked u retarded ignorant wanks that know nothing about MMA that say "McTapper". Khabib installs too much of his religion in his fighting and uses it as a victim card and he thinks hes badass and tough when he just hugs midgets and bums on the ground for 25 minutes and its just boring highlights. And Conor isnt a cokehead like u used to be Conor fans now brainless ass clowns say, USADA would test him and test him positive and he would be banned, ignorant wank stains smh
Dana's just greedy, hes a bitch
Dana is a clown.
Uncle Chael , Dana and the UFC boned her, plan and simple . She didnt deserve to be cut regardless . Dana didnt say i wish her the best he trashed her and said she can go fight the easy fights she wants .
We all know this is to protect their asset Amanda Nunez .
To protect Amanda Nunes? From who? The fighter she KOed in less than a minute? 😂
@@nickbarnes8279 Bisping KO'd Luke in their rematch and he was a massive underdog. Every fight is different
They already fought late last year. Nunes KO'ed Cyborg in the first round. you're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
Amanda doesn't need protected from Cyborg, she proved that in under a minute. Wtf are you talking about?
@@nickbarnes8279 exactly LMAO
Very informative, thanks.
Chael, create stories out of stories, Chael ahould work for Marvel/DC!
Chael should play Batman!
@@IM-xs3uv if they ever make crime syndicate movie i would LOVE to see him as Ultraman. think he make a great villain superman.
I M He is actually perfect to play Bruce Wayne lol
Chael im going through watching every single one of your videos.
Great content chael
Dana White making his UFC debut against Cyborg, I wonder how that would go? 😂
B randon Dana would literally gas out within 50 seconds and then get his head beaten to an even redder pulp!!! Bro Cyborg would tear him apart!!!
Dana dies
Obviously I think we all agree on this fight but what about Oscar de la hoya vs Dana?
@Massmerize really? I like to think so but I don't know anything about what Oscar is doing now
It go only 1way Street cyborg it wud smesh him like kabib says lol and then bully him and pull is pants down 😂😂😂😁
First of all thanks for making this video ❤️
Used to not be a big fan of Chael, but this set up is the exact vibe I need when watching him. Loving this ! More realness please 💪🏻
I really appreciate you coming out and talking about this subject. Some people are afraid to talk about their bosses publicy.
Gilbert Aispuro Dana isn’t Chael’s boss. Chael’s boss is ESPN and maybe still Bellator
I have nothing but respect for Cris Cyborg!
I have nothing but respect for the guy who invented anal beads
You have nothing but respect for a steroid cheat that made her career fighting smaller women?
@@rlucas7374 shut up and stop hating on Cris Cyborg! She is a highly respectable woman! And yes she is a woman!
@@eddyeddy9296 what about cheating and besting up smaller women makes her respectable? Biologically a woman? Sure. Too bad she ingested so many male hormones she hardly looks like one.
@@rlucas7374 I'm pretty sure she's biologically a female! Brazil does produce some fine looking females! Let me correct you she was defeating woman in a sport known as mix martial arts! She only violated once and only once! Other than that are you man enough to talk that shit to her face?
I think we’re all looking at this thinking it’s about cyborg and Dana feeling disrespected, it ain’t about that. It’s probably all about cash. She’s probably demanding more money to fight Nunez and Dana doesn’t wanna pay. Makes more sense to me.
I always like to hear Professor Chael's take
But this begs the question....just how good are Cyborg's subtitles?
Ralph's Eggs lol bro
Thank you
Ty Chael
Chael you need some new locations...where are the uber videos???
Grega Pavlin yessssss
Grega Pavlin He mainly does those are when he goes to the ufc event and on his way back to his hotel he records he thoughts, guess he just hasn’t been to an event in a while
@@egablee there was a time when there was no studio and every video was filmed on a different location...those were fun
Hair salon videos
@@thepolticalone961 my favorite by far :)
Wow words matter great stuff from chael the goat sonnen
Chael doesn't take anyone's side.
There's only the Sonnen side
Are you actually alluding to the German word "Sonnenseite" (which means sunny side)? Then kudos to you, Sir/Madam! 👍
"smart marks in the cheap seats"
Its like uncle chael is up there spying on us guys.
I just realize how much Chael and Owen Wilson sound alike
I don’t see it.
Wowwwww
Bob Saget’s Bastard Daughter try to hear it as most people don’t see voices.
Myera TV You’re hilarious.
Chael said “do do.”
chaels videos are brilliant at 1.25 speed
I agree it feels like there is more to this story.
Cyborg was upset they kept having her fight at a 140 catch weight that was damaging her health
Then why sign with the ufc when theres no division for you ufc cant just magic actual 145ers out of thin air it takes time
Imagine having to fight at a weight you’ve signed a contract to fight at.
The horror.
One day life is all moonlight and canoes.
And then one day it's not.
Moonlight and canoes, what the hell is that
Dana CLEARLY said to the media last week, IF Cyborg CALLS me today or tomorrow AND AGREES to fight Amanda, I WILL DO THE FIGHT!! BUT she WILL NOT CALL, BECAUSE she IS SCARED of another LOSS!!
I'm not a fighter, but I would like, and I may be wrong, that the ultimate goal of any fighter in the UFC is to get a title shot. Why are you in the business if you don't want to be a champion. Dana definitely has not been objective over the years with his decisions in title shots, but the one thing that has stayed true is if he comes out and says he wants to make a fight, if it doesn't happen, its usually a fighter/manager issue. I have to side with Dana on this one, especially after the doctored video. Lying is a strong indicator of guilt.
“Words matter” - Chael “Noam Chomsky” Sonnen
Cyborg is Tito Ortiz spirit animal
This is Sad, I hope They can sort this out, 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
I believe what's "missing" is the fact that Dana interprets Cyborgs camp saying "we want more money for that fight" as "she doesn't want the fight". I think the reality is they aren't willing to pay cyborg what shes worth.
Much like Mcgregor, i think Dana doesnt want to risk Nunes getting caught with a hard Cyborg shot. Nunes is such a big money maker that Dana doesnt want to lose that, just like what he does with Jones as well. Chael, the "Thing" that is missing is the truth from Dana. He is a notorious liar if you look at his track record. Its amazing how many idiotic mouth breathers out there thnk Dana is being truthful. Cyborg LITERALLY MADE A T-SHIRT that said, "Cyborg vs. Nunes January 2020." She has also said 100 plus times since she lost to Nunes that she wants a rematch. What more does Cyborg have to do? Parade around in a T-shirt saying she wants to fight Nunes? Oh- wait. She already did that. Case closed.
Iron Bear what does that have to do with her asking to fight Nunes and Dana wont set the fight up. An you are going off Danas word that he said something else. Danas known as the biggest liar in sports so only a Tard muffin would trust what Dana says. Cyborg has multiple charities and is a nice and humble person. Dana is a 50 year old man baby throwing a temper tantrum.
Iron Bear has Cyborg failed a single drug test in 5 years with the UFC? NOPE. Does Dana lie every event? Yea he does, there are hours of footage showing all his lies. Cyborg is one of the top female fighters in the world an has like 3 legit charities. An here is the only proof needed to show which one is lying. After Cyborgs fight with Spencer she literally wore a shirt that said, "Cyborg vs Nunes, January 2020." While she had the shirt on an saying she wants the Nunes rematch. While this is going on Dana was telling the media, "Cyborg doesnt want to fight Nunes. She is scared and i dont blame her." That's case closed on who is lying. Even someone 3 feet up Danas ass, such as yourself, should easily be able to see the blatant truth. Dana has enough personal dick cleaners. So, pull your head out and let go of Danas 50 year old man- baby dick an come on back to the real world. Where logic and common sense prevail.
Would you do a commentary video on WWE and the rise of their competition?
is there anything better than having chael unpack something for you? i feel like tippin him. good shit
Make the fight happen Chael
Chael: “were kinda splitting hairs, it wasn’t the biggest deal”
...literally minutes later...
Chael: “misquoting someone is a huge deal”
Have to say chaelmdoes a great job
And how does wanderlai Silva feel about this??
damn yo i want Chael's sweater
Deep analysis. Off course we all have blind spots. Chale cops to his. Final summation: spot on....clean break.
Not a Dana defender, but Cyborg('s team) didn't just misquote the subtitles... They cut out some of what Dana said when they changed angles to make it look like he said "I'm not telling... the truth." Not an accident- an incredibly stupid move when there are other cameras around and when there is so much attention on Cyborg's contract/relationship with Dana
When you are the best ever and then you loss , you deserve a rematch regardless of what happened during the fight.
It's probably just because of that confrontation video. Re-awakened Dana's alter ego Dana Red and decided to cut her as payback
Dana Red vs. Cyborg at MSG
It amazes me how chael somehow became the best mma news guy in such a short time
Chael says it the way it is and wont back down from what he says. He isnt afraid of anyone. If me makes a mistake he says he did. but he wont back down from the truth. Got to really admire him for it.
Who else is waiting for ol Chael to start talking about DC vs Stipe 2
The anatomy of a fighter crew goes back stage. Now I don't know if they are part of the UFC but I got the idea that they were not. I hope this whole drama doesn't stop that production from happening.
I like this Chael he seems all worked up with something to prove. (Probably not really but you know what I mean he's very matter of fact here it's the best part about watching him)
Themaclife is also a production company that’s allowed backstage
Am I the only one who thinks this is just about Dana not wanting to apologize?
Chael Sonnen, the great speaker.
Cyborg/Dana reminds me of Bret Hart/Vince McMahon, and Cyborg had a camera crew just like Wrestling with Shadows lol.
Wrestling with Shadows and the whole Montreal Screwjob is the biggest work in Wrasslin' history though ... it was groundbreaking when it happened, it was what finally kicked the door open for a new way of Wrasslin' ...
UFC has a fair amount of heroes and villains among their fighters and management with a lot of conflict among them that is the right stuff for comic-books. There needs to be a comic book made by someone, suggested title: UFC VS The Tomorrow Warriors of Today
I have to agree, simply because, the ppv numbers would have been good for a rematch. She would have made good money
Didn't Cyborg say on Helwani's show that her contract was up and she just wanted a one fight contract with nunes and dana wanted her to sign a multi-fight contract and she didn't want to do that because she wasn't getting enough fights per year? I don't see why Dana wouldn't sign her to a one fight contract with nunes (the rematch that would draw numbers) then let her go. Both sides would be happy............
kcrich13 Because if cyborg wins then the division will have a vacant title which isn’t good
The focus shouldn't be on the end of their conversation, it should be about the part where Dana says it was management... that part wasn't edited, but insinuates that he recognizes cyborg wanted the fight but it was a management issue.
Words of wisdom from the 🐐
Where does Kevin Lee fit into this drama?
Other than Chael saying it, I have never heard this 90k thing.
R.I.P uber chael 😪
Thank you for your 2 cents on this. It's all really weird. I think they are both rough when they talk to each other but it shouldn't be a big deal it's MMA
Love Chael Sonne
7:24 Does The Mac Life count?
Anatomy of a Fighter also.
definitely. also anatomy of a fighter
Words matter, except when talking about Colby right😂
She went on Ariel’s show saying she wanted an apology. Dana just wasn’t having it. Scooping about Dana to Ariel is just a sure exit ticket.
I believe Dana White said it in an interview cyborg would not sign a multiple fight contract.... I think she wanted a one fight deal with Nunez
It started with the beef between Tito Ortiz and Dana White you have to remember Tito Ortiz is one of Chris cyborgs managers
I didn’t know that
The truth is simple, women’s featherweight devision is not working. There are just no enough talent. Therefore Dana wants to shut it down, and to do so, release Cyborg is necessary. Also, the Spencer fight is the last fight on the contract.
So of course her team did the shit job on the subtitle, and most likely she or her team said something about not want to fight Amanda because of the contract is not good enough. But Dana just exaggerate the point and did what he wanted.
I heard on Joe Rogan yesterday that the video was edited
Thank you Chael I too have been following the whole thing as well and I agree that something is missing! I think a lot of us fans are wondering why Dana went straight for the jugular without a legitimate reason, unless that reason being the “fake” #cyborgnation subtitles was infact the straw that broke Dana’s back!! Who knows exactly, thanks for the video!!
Cyborg asked for the rematch immediately after losing to Nunez, Dana mentioned he won't match what cyborg wants for that fight. Cyborg won't fight for peanuts, Dana offers her penuts to protect Amanda, she's his favorite female fighter. He has said so many times It seems rather obvious when you watch every interview since cyborg vs Nunez.
I remember her asking about a bonus & he (Dana ) said No Bonus... everything else I could not make out between Dana & Cyborg
Chael said do do
Chael 'animals can't communicate' Sonnen
Dana bashed Cyborg verbally prior to her joining the UFC. Before the UFC and during the UFC, the bashing stained her reputation to the point, 7 years later, her daughter is being harassed by the same comments Dana made. Morally, how can Cyborg continue with the organization that began the verbal bullying. The words Dana said still have an impact on her and her family, compromising her having to decide "do I work for someone who has permanently affected the perception of me and my daughter, or do I leave the toxicity?" Leaving the toxicity may be the move she has to make...
it benifits dana to not allow cyborgs last fight win against nunes .if nunes lost dana would be forced to resign cyborg with big money.
lmao, you a special kind of dumb.
Dadson worldwide exactly! More than that, he doesnt want to lose his 1st womens champ champ. She is also Lesbian so that gives UFC more attention an makes them look inclusive and progressive. Nunes brings in so much money and just like McGregor Dana doesnr want to lsoe her.
pakjin007 nope you are just blind and def
@@MrTiton536 triggered ! lol
Dadson worldwide exactly
I think Cyborg knows what her mistakes were; she rushed in, and didn't expect Nunes had the power to knock her out. I fully expected rematch to go Cyborgs way. Uncle Dana doesn't want that to happen and knows it's a possibility, so he won't let that fight happen. He favors some fighters and craps on the rest. I want to see the rematch for sure.
I loved your analysis of what could have taken place. 2 questions I have : If , as Dana has said , Cyborg did not want the rematch with Nunes why would she be wearing Nunes/Cyborg 2 t-shirt ? ....... and ....... could they not agree to the terms of rematch - MONEY ?
I want to see the REMATCH as I think that Cyborg could win. It needs to happen to SETTLE ..... GOAT at this point in history ! If they fight and Cyborg wins then the " rubber " must take place to determint the GOAT.
Chael should play The Beyonder in the MCU.
Sonnen is a smart dude well versed and the best shit talker in his day
I find it hard to believe Dana after he tried to do the same exact thing with GSP.