'The Interview': James Lankford Tried to Solve Immigration for the GOP
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I am a lifelong Republican. I will vote for the Democratic candidate for President -- no matter who the flagbearer is -- if it means making Trump irrelevant once and for all. It is time to take our party back.
It feels like your party has been highkact by grifters
once trump is gone im interested in what republicans try to to do, until then its really just sad at this point
lol dude the party is not going back to the establishment years that the bushes started. If you want that you may as well register as a democrat. We’ve gone back to the populism of Nixon and Reagan through Trump. The party won’t be DJT’s anymore but the nonsense of the bushes is done.
Thank you. It's imperative that Trump is removed and the conservatives in this country can reform around first principles rather than continuing to exist as a cult of personality. This country needs two strong and cooperative parties in order to succeed.
Good for you
I'm a democrat from Oklahoma. I don't always see eye-to-eye with Senator Lankford, but I have a deep respect for him, and I appreciate him actually trying to work across the aisle to get things done. I feel he is actually trying to serve the public, instead of just trying to make a name for himself like so many other politicians. He is light years ahead of our other Oklahoma Senator in terms of character and substance. I am happy he represents Oklahoma with character and dignity.
I'm also a Democrat (from Pennsylvania) and I agree with your perspective. I don't agree with Senator Lankford politically, but I can see even from here that the man has a brain and integrity. That's a foundation that even people who disagree can build on. We need more people like him in our government.
Senator Lankford has voiced and/or voted for positions that I find indefensible. Still, we should give people credit for their good works. On the issue of border security, Senator Lankford has prioritized doing his job and solving problems for our country over personal political gain. That is commendable.
He's a really sweet talking guy, but he's just not consistent. He says that the Bible should be taught because of its cultural influence on Western culture and I agree with him. I live in a much less religious Europe and we learn some biblical texts in literature classes. But why is it necessary to prescribe the Bible by law? Why prescribe the Bible but not prescribe Homer or Shakespeare or Twain? He also dodged the question about the Ten Commandments in Lousiana. I do not believe him - he trampled over too many of his basic Christian principles to be taken genuine!
I love me some New York Times but these interviews sound like they are reading off a list of prepared questions and just moving on even if they hear something that clearly requires push back (they seem to do this with all the people they interview)...it's frustrating as hell.
[Edit] when they do push back, they are surface level, as if to intentionally NOT try to challenge their guest to not risk offending them or whatever...they don't owe them courtesy if they are contradicting themselves, you can push back without taking sides 🤦🏿♂️
The 10 commandments one had a simple follow up, what if it was Islamic laws or Buddhist laws that were mandated to be shown!?
Ugh!
If the Bible is to be taught as literature in public schools, why not teach the Koran as well? Over a billion people live by that book as well.
@@shtguard I don't know, it seems to range. I remember I listened to the Pete one a bit ago and when it finished I was like "Damn that was pretty intense", and that was the same interviewer.
@@mitchellscheer677 fair enough, I guess I can't make a general summary about all their Interviews...i just think interviews like this with key players in the political discourse normalize behaviour and talk that should be challenged, even if you don't get an answer, ask the obvious question!
Sometimes is much easier for a European to see through the American extreme right wing bull shit than for Americans to do so. It’s our unique kind of societal illness that drags our country down (I’m American). Thank you for your comment
It boggles my mind that a deeply religious man who says he bases everything he says and does on his faith can still back a convicted felon who has been found liable for sexual assault. These people seem to thrive on cognitive dissonance.
Why does God seem to reveal things along party lines sir? Tell us more about the things that come to you from an invisible guy in the sky..
Broaden your mind a bit, and it will be just as boggled by a deeply patriotic man who claims that Trump is an existential threat to democracy, and yet refuses to state publicly that a rapidly deteriorating president is unfit to run for reelection. Lankford has to step carefully, whenever possible, having taken great political risks by working across the aisle. As a Democrat in Oklahoma, I assure you that Lankford is head and shoulders above anyone who might replace him. I suspect he's going to have a fight on his hands in the 2026 Republican primary.
Why do you think the happens?
Lankford has supported a lot of things many would argue do not comport with his faith. The deposition video of him testifying as to the ability of a minor (13 years old) to consent comes to mind for me.
If God did save 45, it was so he can be brought to court to face his charges
AMEN 🙏
And what about the guy who died at the rally? God chose Trump over him? I would be so offended if I were that guy's family.
@@FredEdeXIIII don’t think this comment implies anything negative about the man who died in the assassination attempt. Bless his family.
So how does your faith allow you to support Trump? I guess character really doesn’t matter. Was Jesus an end justifies the means guy?
This man of God his shoulder his shoulder with Trump. It’s pathetic he knows better.
Why do you think that is?
Great interview.
Senator Lankford is a man of integrity. His communication skills are impressive, as is his intelligence. We need more people like him in Congress.
I'm a Democrat who disagrees with him on most policy issues, but cooperation between parties is required for Congress to get things done. Senator Lankford understands that. He has my respect.
He's my senator and I have more respect for him and his conservative views if he like most Republicans weren't completely beholden to Trump. Also would be nice to have a Senator who didn't hate LGBTQ people but it's Oklahoma so I understand that's asking too much.
As democrats only have 49 seats in the senate, we actually dont need more people like langford. God you lib get so libbed up every time you hear a conservative talk normally. Grow a pair and keep your eye on the ball 😂😂
@@nomad9518"Grow a pair"? Why? So Republicans can send their underwear inspector to our high school and tell us which sports team we must not join? When it comes to my pair, "Mind your own damn business"!
@@andreallheartthat’s sad
You must also be a Christian. In my opinion, when the Republicans proved that they don't care about anything except being reelected, Langford completely caved. He is a beaten man, he literally cowers. A better man would have stood up, told the truth loudly and everywhere, then gone back to his camp with his head held high.
Senator Lankford, get far, far away from the former president if you want to maintain a political office.
His excuse for voting against his own bill is so weak. No conviction. Then for Lankford to say that Biden could just enforce the same policies as Obama is disingenuous. The political landscape has completely changed since Obama was in office and political polarization is even higher. It’s not as simple as Lankford makes it to be.
Also, it should be done by legislation, not executive order.
Expecting executive order is the cowardly approach.
“It’s not nothing”. There needs to be a system in place to keep out the bad actors. It’s unfortunate that this bill didn’t pass. It was a start.
Trump killed it, by commanding his zombie army of Republican politicians to vote against it, under threat of MAGA retaliation.
I cannot overstate how Mr. Lankford's faith and expression of his faith is not the problem with people my age (under 35). Was raised catholic, sunday school from 1st grade thru Confirmation but realized these people, for as much as they say it influences their life, have such a hard time practicing what they preach. It is so innauthentic and comes off as rehearsed and contains zero substance.
Cool, you can recite scripture and deliver a homily. Whats not cool is only cherry picking the parts you like and blatantly ignoring the parts you dont like or excusing others hatred for political points instead of condemning that hatred as you would for someone with a D in front of their name instead of an R.
Also, why do journalists not follow up their answers? For instance, is he cool with the Quran being taught? What about Buddhist symbols? Hindu teachings on posters in the classroom next to the 10 commandments? There are so many questions that so many interviewers just accept. Who cares if you ask 15 questions if they only give you 1 real answer out of all those questions?
I respect him as a man of fait and respect his faith and how hard his job is. Yeah, they make good money but it can be taxing when you... Actually do your job. I believe him when says he tries HIS hardest to work across the aisle in good faith. What I don't believe him is when he's willing to look in a mirror, at his party, and be honest with his constituents about his feelings regarding his parties ideology and demagoguery.
I wish people like you would be in office.
Disappointing. Evident that you have some motive for not tying Project 2025 to the deportation topic. Project 2025 CLEARLY outlines the mass deportation.
I may have policy differences with Lankford. I also have differences regarding religion and its effect on his policy-making. But I think he's a decent person who is working to do a good job for his constituents.
I’m sick of these politicians talking about “their faith.” I don’t give a damn! If he previously supported Trump, he’s a hypocrite like all the other so called Christians in the government.
Lankford is not blaming Trump on anything
The mental gymnastics to just claim "Trump wont do the things he says he will do" to try to suggest its remotely acceptable to vote for the dude is bonkers. Believe people when they open their face and make sounds. We're in an era of unprecedented things happening on a nearly daily basis, if 45 gets back in office with P2025 behind him all this batshit crazy shit he suggests can be done.
@@enderdragoonand Trump will abandon Ukraine, to give his communist, dictator, "man-crush", Putin a gift. Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave!
BFD. As a Democrat in Oklahoma, I'm telling you that my state will not be sending a Democrat to the U.S. Senate anytime soon. Lankford has been working across the aisle, attempting to get desperately needed legislation passed by Congress. Considering the state of affairs in Oklahoma politics, that takes considerable courage. He is genuinely at risk of losing in the 2026 primary. So, yes, he's treading carefully, even as Kamala is treading carefully now. What else would you expect? Do you really want to see Oklahoma elect another senator along the lines of Markwayne Mullin? That is indeed likely to happen, if Lankford loses in the Republican primary.
People like are more dangerous than Trump. They talk all about faith but they bend it to suit their own agenda. It applies to everyone else except to a certain individuals
@@tomenglish9340yea our country runs cause of Oklahoma’s contributions to the economy
He was able to find enough Republicans to support the bill. Until Trump let them know he was opposed to the bill. That’s an important detail the Senator omitted. The sin of omission….
This is what politics should look like, even with stark differences, work together, be respectful of those you disagree with, and find compromises to move the business of the people FORWARD.
Perhaps, the next Reagan. (He does adhere to Reagan's 11th Commandment, thou shall not speak ill of other Republicans but I would fail on that by saying Trump is not a Republican he is a Maga-RiNO!)
You never know whose azz you’re gonna have to kiss in politics.
Excellent interview
Very weak interview, didn't push him once, pathetic.
Four minutes in and I'm thinking...MAGA must hate this guy.
"PRINCIPLES??!! What is this devil's brew??"
A great guy.
40:38 Oklahoma state legislators passed a law in 2020 that they can replace the electors if they don't like who the majority of Oklahoma voters choose for our next president.
I'm enjoying these interviews coming out of the times.
It is interesting to learn more about people who have power in our government.
I think we could use more of this kind of thing.
Lankford is a solid Republican, I miss all of them...
Enjoyed this conversation! His viewpoint of setting boundaries, listening and working persistently to reach common ground is sooo refreshing to hear from a person responsible for our national safety and in our system of government. Also refreshing to hear his compliments of the others across the aisle committed to solving the complex immigration matter and likely his respectful feelings toward the fellow bi-partisan professionals he works with day to day. This perspective is critical for all of those elected. Please y’all pay attention to who we are electing… kindness matters whether it’s faith-based or not
My God An honest man and sane, too. We are truly fortunate and we are damned.
Most Senators and Congress persons don’t ever read the bills they vote on.
He wrote it and voted against it on orders of dear leader.
Catholic here- This man is right. EVERYONE deserves to be observed as one who has intrinsic value. This has nothing to do with party candidates. I love his integrity.
When I saw the thumbnail in my feed I thought it was Tommy Smothers! Having not thought about Tommy Smothers for a few decades, I decided to take a look. Imagine my disappointment when I found out it was Langford. Oh well, I'm off to Google the Smothers Brothers.
33:52 Lankford should know what a "A Tale of Two Cities" is; it is a novel by Charles Dickens, and the cities are Paris and London. Evangelicals have employed the phrase to refer to Babylon and Jerusalem, but they could just as well refer to any of the "two city" sets in the bible. While there is much literature in historical western civilization that references biblical themes, not every utterance can be reduced to bible glosses. Positing an arbitrary list in classrooms doesn't actually advance moral or cultural knowledge--as evidenced by Lankford's misattribution. Additionally, "Going Old Testament" on someone (his second example of cultural literacy) means to treat them extremely cruelly, harshly, and with wrath. Precisely what we don't want to raise our children to do.
This is such an interesting and thoughtful interview! Thank you both! :)
- from an Evangelical Centrist
I'm an okie and have pd close attn to lankfords political career from the very beginning... having been raised here in oklahoma, i know the ppl here as well as i know myself..
politics is a bloodsport around these parts.. state and city govt are deeply corrupt, and deadly serious on all levels-from the local dog catcher, all the way up the chain to the governors mansion.. and, idk how familiar the gen pop is with the world of "southern baptists," but taking hold of power and weilding it, is child's play to those ppl and they are not only corrupt, but absolutely ruthless.. and, oklahoma is one their stongholds-has been for generations.. and this man, lankford, cut his political teeth rising up thru that orginization.. and that says a lot bout who he is..
His intellectual abilities and emotional intelligence are of the highest order.. and so, I can confidently state, that there is zero chance lankford does not understand exactly who trump is, or is/was unaware of the nefariousness trump and his administration did/intend to attempt to do,if he is reelected.. I watched lankford live, on the senate floor Jan 6th.. watched him tip his hand-showed everything we needed to know about whose side hes playing for, by the direct actions he took.. act like he was just up there tryna rep his voters when he stepped up and attempted to aide his other coup members, to get vote scrapped and placed in the hands of the legislature instead.. effectively denying the 80 million voters who turned out during a deadly pandemic to cast their votes for the blue team at the top of the ticket.. I'll never forget it.. I was first, stunned, then deeply ashamed that my state put a man in office who would willfully ignore his oath cooperate with seditionists in an attempt to overthrow our govt..
Just something for ya'll to think about when yall see him, or hear him speak..
I don’t think there should ever be an interview of this length with a Republican or you don’t discuss how they could support Trump after what he did on January 6 (or failed to do) and his other attempts to illegally stay in power as outlined in the federal indictment against him. Or for that matter - the the things Trump did as described in the documents case
Journalists are letting this country down.
Lankford’s rationalization for being OK with teaching the Bible in schools seemed dishonest and disingenuous
Wtf, you can understand, hear, and use common "biblical phrases" without having to read the bible itself. There is no reason that a religious needs to be mandated to understand ideas or references to the original body of work.
I like how people always ignore the first 2 commandments when talking about the posters. When the government demands you interact with a particular religion, learn a specific religious text, you're giving that religion, and only that religion, authority and special privileges. You're also inviting others to alienate people outside of that preferred belief and adding the opportunity to have theological fights. You're giving teachers room to openly proselytized to their students and tell them things like "all people are born fallen" and giving them space to tell their students things like if they have sex with multiple people they're like chewed bubblegum. Even more so when the government backs up this forced study of the religion with laws and policies based on the bible or that include biblical passages directly from the bible.
Someone's personal faith guiding their thoughts and actions is fine, but if you can't make a justifiable argument without having to rely on that personal faith, you are pushing those beliefs onto others and treading into theocracy.
There's also a not insignificant portion of our population that has is dealing with religious trauma and forcing people to interact with your faith could be harmful to them and disrupt their healing.
FOX News tried to warn us, a few years ago, when they said that religious extremists were trying to implement religious (Sharia) Law here in America. They were wrong about which religion.
Thank you for this interview and for pressing Senator Lankford at times. I am gratified that there are still people in politics, especially on the Republican side like him, with the influence of Trump -- who does not seem to be interested in serving the people -- who hold firm in their view and intent to serve the people who elected him.
I hope our country will be on the upswing, following this next election, with more in public office who do actually serve the people. We seem to have been going in the wrong direction with this in the past, but I am hopeful for change.
I appreciated this interview and Senator Lankford's obvious integrity, even if my politics are completely different.
A humble man with integrity. Interesting conversation.
Very thoughtful interview.
16:25 Oklahoma Republican House Bill 3133 allows Law Enforcement to classify hispanic OKLAHOMANS with any "street gang affiliation" as Terrorists, put them in detainment compounds indefinitely and the state seize all their property like cash, cars, houses, land, businesses and bank accounts.
Well it makes sense now why this is like the one guy that democrats consistently work with. He might be the only Republican Senator besides Murkowski that actually cares about governing. Maybe I’m just wish-casting, but if he was the Republican leader, Congress might actually get closer to working.
I teach the children of immigrants and some children who are immigrants themselves. It is heartbreaking 💔 to think about them or their parents being deported. I also teach some unaccompanied immigrant children. In my opinion, we need a solution that keeps families together and minimizes trauma to immigrants and their American citizen children.
I am also married to a man who came illegally, but got his green card from President Reagan before I met him. He came to this country to reunite with his parents who came here to make money to send back home to support their 4 children. They are not criminals and I wouldn’t have my wonderful son without my husbands’s choice to come to this country. What was a crime was when Hollywood High School illegally denied his right to enroll there because of his immigration status. We don’t know which people will grow up to solve climate change or find the cure for cancer. When we deprive people of an education, we are shooting ourselves in the foot.
I also have ancestors who were here before Columbus. What gave “us” the right to steal this country from indigenous people and then decide who gets to be here.
Lankford says a lot of words without saying anything. Also, isn't this the guy that god forgave for saying children can consent to sex? As an Oklahoman, I'd never let my kids go anywhere near him or his creepy ilk
I admire this senator so much please we need more people like him
No, no we absolutely don't. We need more people like Liz Cheney, people who will stand up and say out loud, "the emperor has no clothes". This man does not have that type of self sacrificing courage.
I like him to but the "Jesus helps the poor" thing might get in his way of just locking down the border like they've been told to for 50 years by the people
I don't always see eye to eye with Senator Lankford but I think he's one of the best senators Oklahoma has ever had and I believe he really loves the country and does what he thinks is best for the country. Here he has sacrificed his reputation among Trump supporters, on the stage of the Trump party, to do what he thinks is right and the fact that he gathered the support of so many people on the other side of the aisle at that expense is a testament to his integrity.
When anyone votes against their own bill that they worked hard on because a party member wants to be president they have put party over country and there's not much they can say after that to regain my respect. When any party votes in lockstep I mistrust that party.
18:56 there are detainment compounds in rural Oklahoma. Their perimeter lights can be seen at night from the turnpike.
Lankford is a good guy. Period. I am pretty middle of the road. We need more Lankford.
First republican senator since John McCain I have respect for
Pass
Start listening 12:00. Enlightening to those who do not know, should be brought up in debates.
12:00
And does the Devil, also, protect HIS people?
What a weak interview. Why don’t American journalists push politicians? They’ll insult them behind their backs, but won’t call them out when face to face. She didn't once use follow-up questions to elicit a criticism of any Republican for their disgraceful behavior in killing the bill. She let him weedle out of it each time with his first mealy-mouthed answer.
Insane to think this man can be both one of trumps willfull supporters everywhere accept during his job.
Republicans PLEASE let’s end trump now so the we can all move past this and get back to actual politics
Interesting
Don't you have a color picture of Lankford? This is an awful Black & White picture.
this interview is a car crash. So you don't ask him to if verses from the Koran should be put up in schools
I feel like her editor came after her "after the break" and told her to ask some tougher questions 🧐
I thought this was Tommy Smothers on caption…..I guess not
He pretends to be moral and man of character but his character bends when it suits him.
tru dat
What does The Ten Commandments say about slavery? It definitely mentions slavery. Does it say people should NOT own people...?
Don't think so. Slavery was pretty common back then. Some people sold themselves into slavery for food and board
Lankford has always had my respect. He is a VERY good Senator and OK is lucky to have him. Hope he survives his derranged party. 🏎️🥰
Cows are more interesting than this man.
The Interviewer is SUCH a IMPOSTER. So self-appointed and fake
The bill they tried to pass to "Solve Immigration" gave the Secretary of Homeland Security the power to grant amnesty to whoever with a 5 year fast track to citizenship. Glad it did not pass.
Why, cause who should be a citizen needs to be up to the all informed you?
@@FredEdeXIII Yes. They do not belong here in the first place.
@@FredEdeXIII Polls show most of the country agrees with me
@@healthdoc Those treaties should be canceled or redone, personally I think we should amend the constitution to allow the president to take in 10,000 refugees a year. Right now the system is being abused massively and the tax payer being taken advantage of. We can't take in everyone. Way too many. We all pay though the backdoor tax of inflation due to deficit spending on these "refugees". They also place pressure on housing and food costs.
@@healthdoc Stop worshiping at the altar of GDP.