control key on the left there is like the main selling point. when you’re programming hitting ctrl+letter combos all day it means that your hand isn’t stretching in that strange posture constantly. do that 5000x a day and its worth the $$ :)
Papa Mario Lmfao please. Topre is best money for best typing experience out of the box. People spend $300-$1000 on a custom mechanical keyboard case without switches or $300 key caps and need to spend hours lubing each one just to be on par with a Topre keyboard.
i'm actually so surprised that these keybaords are actually seeing the light of day on youtube. for the longest time there weren't any even relatively big youtubers talking about topre at all. after going through several different HHKB's I settled for a non type-s BT, and now that the hybrid is out it's time for me to upgrade to the hybrid. I always get this disconnection issue on bluetooth that breaks the experience for me while gaming with this keyboard, so i'm glad the hybrid keyboard addresses that because i'll just be using it in wired mode.
So true. this keyboard came out so long ago and I've used HHKB Pro and Pro2 for almost 15 years and back then there was no retailer that sold these keyboards. Now big youtubers are starting to review which makes me happy :)
Bro your voice is soo soothing I love it. This is the first video of yours that I've watched and I really hope you keep up the great quality in your future ones
I just got my HHK Professional Hybrid Type-S. The Topre keys are absolutely fantastic. The minimalist design of this keyboard is surprisingly functional and definitely makes for more effortless coding! I read several reviews on this keyboard, and most complain about the price - value for the money. It was worth the investment. Keeping my hands over the keyboard where they belong is a game changer.
I picked up a HHKB pro 2 second hand for a good price. Loved it stock, but went ahead and modified it with silencing rings and lubricated the switches and stabilisers with Krytox 205g0. Highly recommend taking the time to lube it! Sounds and feels amazing!!
I have been playing with a HHKB PRO 2 for a year now, love the topre switches. You can totally play at a high lvl with a keyboard like this, I'm lvl 10 on faceit with 2k5 elo (csgo).
Im surprised that you guys (BST et al) have just tried Topre recently. Been using it for years. You need to mod that buddy. - lube the slider rails and change the domes to BKE. Either Lights or Ultralights, and you’re golden. :)
Definitely a unique experience that everyone needs to try. I'm not a huge fan of the lack of dedicated arrows but I still come back to this board at least for a day a week.
The best way to describe Topre switches is it's a good feeling of oneness with cup rubber. Memes aside, I have two Realforces R2 TKLs. For me, the main reason why I love these boards so much are the sounds they make when I type. absolute T H O C C
I don't have an HHKB layout but moving Control to capslock on all my boards has incredibly helpful. I can't go back, I would rather have three Ctrl keys
I have a niz EC keyboard. I love this thing. It has a pretty standard layout but has such a great feel to the switches. It's also pretty easy to get rubber dome sheets at different weights if you prefer something heavier. I'd like to eventually get an actual topre board but for now, this is giving me everything I need. Plus it has mx compatible stems so I can use my keycap sets. Plus I got it for $80 used which is great.
Listen to me. I intentionally ignored everyone's Topre boards on channels until I had one. I'm tactile only gang but shit I really like them now. Love this video.
Funnily enough, I always shifted my Shift Key up to caps & Ctrl up to Shift because of my small hands and it's always a strain to deal with, I might actually pick this up. Except I love my Page Up/Down, Home/End & Arrows too much while typing out my D&D GM Notes and essays/scripts. The Keyboard Deities have pained me once more.
The 2nd layer arrow keys, pg up ,pg down, home, and end keys are quite close to the fn key (beside right shift key) and its still usable. I can breeze through excel spreadsheets like im using a TKL
Not sure if you will be reading this comment, but there are some custom keycap sets for topre stems on aliexpress. So it looks like there are at least some options out there (quality questions aside)
I've switched my control and caps lock keys in firmware, and i really love it for typing and controls, so for games i just set my crouch to "caps". The only annoying thing is that sometimes i type in game in caps accidently
jobbyt Everydayguy yeah I live in America and even then we don’t have shops where we can try our switches. The only types you can find are the typical gaming keyboards at bestbuy
Neko i also own BKE light domes on my Leopold FC660C ame thought they were much more tactile than HP and Zealios. Almost TOO tactile and honestly the amount was too much for me. Wish there was a dome that was between the subtle bump of stock domes and the BKE light.
@@andrezinho176 Maybe the ultra lights? I have yet to try them but maybe there a good middle ground personally I like the tactility of the lights but its too much for some stuff ie gaming
Bought my HHKB Pro 2 for €80 in January. They started off a little scratchy but after 2 weeks or so they became smooth as butter. I'm currently in the process of silencing it because I couldn't find a deal on a Type-S. I've already done sound and vibration dampening pads and Deskey Medium rings and lube are on their way atm. Love it. :)
I recently bought a Topre Realforce 105UB 45g keyboard. And I have to say, that I am extremely satisfied with this keyboard. I've had several keyboards before. These included MX-Switches like MX-Blues, MX-Browns, and I tried even MX-Clear, but this keyboard is like heaven for your fingers. I can recommend a keyboard with Topre-Switches for everyone, who is a professional typist, or who types a lot. This keyboard is eventually not for gamers, because as I know many gamers prefer keyboards with RGB-Lighting and so, which Topre also manufactures. But for the most gamers, it will be too expensive. Everyone who wants an excellent build quality, and the best switches in the world is very welcome to buy this keyboard, because it's a really good one, as it is the HHKB, as it haves also Topre-Switches.
I dont know if the keyboard is as insane as it looks in the video or if BTs Blockbuster videos are just so insanely well made that i would even buy an aliexpress keyboard for 200$
The switches sound similar to silent switches like the Zilents or Cherry MX Silent variants. Not a bad sound, but not the best in my opinion. Interesting review, are you gonna review any Durgod keyboards by any chance?
i own some Topre keyboards, and while i really like my HHKB, i'd just prefer my Leopold FC980C with 1800 layout more, maybe i have to use number pad then :)
I've heard that the Topre switches are only technically tactile but feel more like linears because they actuate towards the top or at least the resistance kicks in at the top so it feels smooth all the way down. I just got a Ducky One 2 SF in white, so I'm not in the immediate market for keyboards but, if I ever have a spare $300 I'd definitely want to at least try this and, if I don't like it, I'll just flip it on eBay.
I swear I've seen a video on you putting a specific foam in your custom keyboards but I can't find it, do you still put a sound dampener in your keyboards?
Thank you for the review. I've got a HHKB Pro 2, would the Pro Hybrid be a compelling update? Other than USB-c and Bluetooth, it doesn't seem to really offer anything new. I'm using this keyboard on macOS, BTW.
Does topre feel anything like brown or red, because that too mushy for me. I need some feel that a key is being clicked, not as much as blue or green but somewhere in between
Time to get the hhkb layout for everything. The other best thing about the layout is the split backspace!! The hhkb is the reason why I never buy above a 65% anymore. Also really love the fn layer and pretty much replicate it on every other keyboard I get.
There isn't the best one. Everyone likes different things (one might like light Tofu case but another one might enjoy heavy aluminum tank on his/hers/its desk). You can have so much variety of switches (even sub-categories of linear, tactile and clicky). You could enjoy the looks, feel of the switch, or the sound. Personally, I don't think that there is one endgame for you if you go for a hot-swap board. Also rather important is layout/size (40%, 60%, 75%, TKL, full size and many more). Usually, if you are new to keebs, hot-swap PCB (those where you can hot-swap the switches without need to de/solder anything) work usually the best. But if I had to make a point - the best stuff the stuff that suits YOU the best...
by gk61 with optical switches 30$ swap switches for optical silver lube them with tribosys 3204 add foam at the bottom of the case smother than most expensive switches total cost 50$
Thanks man, I’m ok with a hotswap board, I just don’t want the spacebar to Have this rattle and I also don’t want my keyboard to have this tingy, metallic sound after I press a key. I have a techware phantom 87 with outemu browns and it has both of these problems.
Thanks for the review - I own HHKB Pro2 but I'm thinking about buying another one with hybrid now especially I work from home a lot these days. I have a desktop in my office and want to use my work laptop and be able to switch between these two machines. In their Fujitsu website they say it's a instant switch between devices using a keyboard shortcut but I can't really find anyone does that review. How does it switch between the devices after pre register them? Can u do a demo of that? thanks!
The "liking" curve for the key feel is an underappreciated thing. I went back and forth between HHKB and and a Cherry MX blues board for quite a while becoming a Topre person. (Also, and I will never get tired of saying this, the default Fn layer is crap. I would never use the board if I could not move the Fn key and remap the Fn layer.)
Arturo Filio Villa you still use arrows, you just use them without needing to reposition your hand. Once you get used to it, using the arrows (to select an auto complete or something), hitting enter, then going back to typing is a lot more seamless and less tiring.
@@geoken2 true but you have to use a another they to enable them so Im going to be having to use 3 keys to do commands I normally do with two (arrow + cmd key). I have my anne pro2 gathering dust, Im going to try puthimg the fn key in the caps lock position and see if I can get used to it. For now, 65% for me is the way to go.
Arturo Filio Villa definitely. It’s a toss up for sure. On one hand, you have to use more complex hot key combos to do the same thing, and on the other hand you have less complex combos but need to move your hand further. I guess it just comes to personal preference. I do CTRL+Shift+Arrow a lot, so using function keys for arrows bumps that up to a 4 key shortcut, which seems like too much. But after a while, in my brain I don’t even think of fn + WASD as 2 keys anymore. I just think of WASD, and pressing the FN first is almost done subconsciously.
@@geoken2 Yeah, I don't know I'm currently using the anne pro2 to see if I get used to it, and as you said I'm using a 4 keys shrotcut to do cmd + shift + fn + arrow key right || left. Seems a bit too much right now in my opinion but I will give it a shot for a day, I do have an Akko incomming where it's a 65% layou and it's literally one key column more, so Idk will see. worst case scenario the Anne Pro 2 will go back in the shelf to gather dust.
Found the non VIM user In reality tho, it was designed in the 80 by a Japanese CS professor in the days before IDE’s. So it was pretty much designed to be used with VIM and Unix.
u could just buy fc660c. The thing I wish that leopold, realforce and hhkb would make more pbt colored keycaps. The feel is like combining rubber dome with spring, which it is XD it has that after sound
The problem with Topre is they are too light for my fingers I'm using T1 Switches with 78gr springs for almost 2 years now. I can't go back to lighter switches :(
Love topre but hate them for gaming. Having to bottom out and reset rather then feathering the actuation point for strafing isn't optimal for me. For typing though they are perfection
I'm sure the feel is great and the sound is pretty nice otb, but I feel like the price tag for what you're getting is hard to justify for me. Glad you like it maybe feeling them would change my mind in the future. 300 for a new set of switches is pretty steep to me.
Daniel Early you could do it yourself with sharp keys. I do it like that because every now and then I have to use my laptop keyboard and it slows me down when I don’t have CTRL on the caps lock key.
It's very nice It's the most amazing keyboard I've owned like dude I've owned many logitech Razer and Corsair keyboards and I tried typing on some custom lubed I can say this is the best experience
I'm kinda sad that nobody told him about the Leopold fc660c, better and cheaper Topre experience imo. The only thing that this has over it is the wireless.
I love my HHKB Pro 2 Type - S. I swapped it to 55g and lubed it and it is heaven on earth my man. Love your keyboard vids :)
control key on the left there is like the main selling point. when you’re programming hitting ctrl+letter combos all day it means that your hand isn’t stretching in that strange posture constantly. do that 5000x a day and its worth the $$ :)
The beginning of the video dude...I thought I was watching a keyboard review, not a better cinematic than in most games/movies these days :O
When people say topre is king, they're right
Topre is dopre
The king is naked.
I refuse to believe people who own Topre arent trying to cope for the money they spent for it
Topre, Holy Panda, Blue Alps, Tealios
Papa Mario Lmfao please. Topre is best money for best typing experience out of the box. People spend $300-$1000 on a custom mechanical keyboard case without switches or $300 key caps and need to spend hours lubing each one just to be on par with a Topre keyboard.
5:50 is what you came for, awww yeahhh
Jk watch the whole video please haha
did u notice he was typing at nothing? hahaha
i'm actually so surprised that these keybaords are actually seeing the light of day on youtube. for the longest time there weren't any even relatively big youtubers talking about topre at all. after going through several different HHKB's I settled for a non type-s BT, and now that the hybrid is out it's time for me to upgrade to the hybrid. I always get this disconnection issue on bluetooth that breaks the experience for me while gaming with this keyboard, so i'm glad the hybrid keyboard addresses that because i'll just be using it in wired mode.
So true. this keyboard came out so long ago and I've used HHKB Pro and Pro2 for almost 15 years and back then there was no retailer that sold these keyboards. Now big youtubers are starting to review which makes me happy :)
2:26 ah yes, the fucktion control
Lmfao
Bro your voice is soo soothing I love it. This is the first video of yours that I've watched and I really hope you keep up the great quality in your future ones
I just got my HHK Professional Hybrid Type-S. The Topre keys are absolutely fantastic. The minimalist design of this keyboard is surprisingly functional and definitely makes for more effortless coding! I read several reviews on this keyboard, and most complain about the price - value for the money. It was worth the investment. Keeping my hands over the keyboard where they belong is a game changer.
I picked up a HHKB pro 2 second hand for a good price. Loved it stock, but went ahead and modified it with silencing rings and lubricated the switches and stabilisers with Krytox 205g0. Highly recommend taking the time to lube it! Sounds and feels amazing!!
Finally you have discovered how incredible hhkb is
I have been playing with a HHKB PRO 2 for a year now, love the topre switches. You can totally play at a high lvl with a keyboard like this, I'm lvl 10 on faceit with 2k5 elo (csgo).
Brotex yeah I play on my Pro Hybrid and I don’t have any issues whatsoever
Im surprised that you guys (BST et al) have just tried Topre recently. Been using it for years. You need to mod that buddy. - lube the slider rails and change the domes to BKE. Either Lights or Ultralights, and you’re golden. :)
MY man gaming on that HHKB welcome to the family
aww yeah...
Hell yeah i just got the new HHKB Pro Hybrid and been gaming on it ever since i got it. Its incredible. :)
Editing is super clean on this man, keep it up :)
Definitely a unique experience that everyone needs to try. I'm not a huge fan of the lack of dedicated arrows but I still come back to this board at least for a day a week.
The best way to describe Topre switches is it's a good feeling of oneness with cup rubber.
Memes aside, I have two Realforces R2 TKLs. For me, the main reason why I love these boards so much are the sounds they make when I type.
absolute T H O C C
Ahh yes the oneness with cup rubber is strong with this one.
whats the stab situation? that spacebar sounded nice, no rattle.
I don't have an HHKB layout but moving Control to capslock on all my boards has incredibly helpful. I can't go back, I would rather have three Ctrl keys
I have a niz EC keyboard. I love this thing. It has a pretty standard layout but has such a great feel to the switches. It's also pretty easy to get rubber dome sheets at different weights if you prefer something heavier. I'd like to eventually get an actual topre board but for now, this is giving me everything I need. Plus it has mx compatible stems so I can use my keycap sets. Plus I got it for $80 used which is great.
wyatt Where’d you get yours, because the amazon link has it for $400 which is insane?
DoorBox i got mine (niz atom 68) on their english site for like $175
@@doorbox788 like I said I got mine used but their website is nizkeyboard . com
I think they have also done a run on massdrop before.
Listen to me. I intentionally ignored everyone's Topre boards on channels until I had one. I'm tactile only gang but shit I really like them now. Love this video.
Funnily enough, I always shifted my Shift Key up to caps & Ctrl up to Shift because of my small hands and it's always a strain to deal with, I might actually pick this up. Except I love my Page Up/Down, Home/End & Arrows too much while typing out my D&D GM Notes and essays/scripts. The Keyboard Deities have pained me once more.
The 2nd layer arrow keys, pg up ,pg down, home, and end keys are quite close to the fn key (beside right shift key) and its still usable. I can breeze through excel spreadsheets like im using a TKL
Using HHKB Pro 2 Type-S for more than 5 years and the only complain is when it will be broken so that I can buy the BT version. OTZ
Did the price go up? Because you say almost $300
Been using my Leopold FC980C for over 3 years now. Leopold is another great Topre type brand
Nathan Mastrangelo many would say better.
I would definitely say the main thing people would complain about with getting use to this kind of layout is the split backspace.
What lens are you using? Focal length and aperture?
Does this feel like a laptop keyboard's rubber dome?
Yo what desk is that? Looks clean.
Are you using the Aorus monitor for gaming now? Is the benq worse?
Why not fc660c?
Not sure if you will be reading this comment, but there are some custom keycap sets for topre stems on aliexpress. So it looks like there are at least some options out there (quality questions aside)
I've switched my control and caps lock keys in firmware, and i really love it for typing and controls, so for games i just set my crouch to "caps". The only annoying thing is that sometimes i type in game in caps accidently
I am pretty sure you can disable caps lock
Man I would love this keyboard
If you want a better quality. better feeling version of this board with arrow keys check out the Leopold FC660C. IMO it's much better than the HHKB.
are these pleasant to game on or difficult?
You advertised the Pwnage mouse a bunch but you're using a Logitech mouse?
Oh man in my Country we don't get stores to actually try different switches haha but they look interesting
jobbyt Everydayguy yeah I live in America and even then we don’t have shops where we can try our switches. The only types you can find are the typical gaming keyboards at bestbuy
NOt sure why that price i so high though?!? PS is that switch sort of same as those awful mac rubber cap switches? Basically an aircap glues on?
Not at all the same.
I’ve been looking into a hhkb and then you upload a video, nice !
6:16 awwwww yeaaaaaaaah
Mmmm mmmm mmmmh
How do you feel about alpherior keys and their keycaps plus new mousepad for gaming?
where are the arrow keys? i cant see them??
You should try it with BKE domes in I've got BKE Light Domes in mine and there way more tactile than my holy pandas and zealios v2 switches
Neko i also own BKE light domes on my Leopold FC660C ame thought they were much more tactile than HP and Zealios. Almost TOO tactile and honestly the amount was too much for me. Wish there was a dome that was between the subtle bump of stock domes and the BKE light.
@@andrezinho176 Maybe the ultra lights? I have yet to try them but maybe there a good middle ground personally I like the tactility of the lights but its too much for some stuff ie gaming
I love the HHKB. I have two of them.
0:29 anyone know what sound card / DAC that is?
Nvm, found it. It's the RME Audio ADI-2 DAC.
Bought my HHKB Pro 2 for €80 in January. They started off a little scratchy but after 2 weeks or so they became smooth as butter. I'm currently in the process of silencing it because I couldn't find a deal on a Type-S. I've already done sound and vibration dampening pads and Deskey Medium rings and lube are on their way atm.
Love it. :)
you mean like 2 or 380 right?? not 80?
80?????
I recently bought a Topre Realforce 105UB 45g keyboard. And I have to say, that I am extremely satisfied with this keyboard. I've had several keyboards before. These included MX-Switches like MX-Blues, MX-Browns, and I tried even MX-Clear, but this keyboard is like heaven for your fingers. I can recommend a keyboard with Topre-Switches for everyone, who is a professional typist, or who types a lot. This keyboard is eventually not for gamers, because as I know many gamers prefer keyboards with RGB-Lighting and so, which Topre also manufactures. But for the most gamers, it will be too expensive. Everyone who wants an excellent build quality, and the best switches in the world is very welcome to buy this keyboard, because it's a really good one, as it is the HHKB, as it haves also Topre-Switches.
I dont know if the keyboard is as insane as it looks in the video or if BTs Blockbuster videos are just so insanely well made that i would even buy an aliexpress keyboard for 200$
The Leopold FC660C shits on this easily
How do you compare the HHKB’s topre to the Leopold one BT? I heard lots of people said Leopold is a little bit better
Does it start to lag when the battery is about to run out???
control on capslock is 1000000% better than in the bottom left. so much easier to do shortcuts and much less strain on wrist when gaming
The switches sound similar to silent switches like the Zilents or Cherry MX Silent variants. Not a bad sound, but not the best in my opinion. Interesting review, are you gonna review any Durgod keyboards by any chance?
I would like to see a review of the Durgod TKL offerings on your channel.
Bluetooth has a delay gamers tend to stay away from, one of the reasons to hardwire.
Is their really that much of a delay though? Like noticeable input lag?
5:50 this sounds like a membrane keyboard
because they're rubber domes
Is BT using his A7S II for these shots or another camera/lens combo? I've always wondered but never seen it listed anywhere. Thanks!
I use a canon c200 and Eos R these days.
Brandon Taylor the correct choices! Lol especially with that R5 coming out
Is the amp that you're using mentioned anywhere? It looks amazing!
What home screen is that ??
Can this be remapped to use different layouts? (Workman, Dvorak, etc)
i own some Topre keyboards, and while i really like my HHKB, i'd just prefer my Leopold FC980C with 1800 layout more, maybe i have to use number pad then :)
Leopolds are incredible
I've heard that the Topre switches are only technically tactile but feel more like linears because they actuate towards the top or at least the resistance kicks in at the top so it feels smooth all the way down. I just got a Ducky One 2 SF in white, so I'm not in the immediate market for keyboards but, if I ever have a spare $300 I'd definitely want to at least try this and, if I don't like it, I'll just flip it on eBay.
Why would you buy this keyboard when you can buy one with VIA software, or any other keyboard config to change the control key, etc?
No rechargeable battery? Battery bump? $300? Think I'll be sticking with my Anne Pro 2 and remap the ctrl key if I need(I won't)!
hahahahahahahahaha
I swear I've seen a video on you putting a specific foam in your custom keyboards but I can't find it, do you still put a sound dampener in your keyboards?
dude the only sane layout is one that has the ctrl key where the caps lock normally is
Hello, I want to build a keyboard myself, but I will do that for the first time. What are your tips for me?
Thank you for the review. I've got a HHKB Pro 2, would the Pro Hybrid be a compelling update? Other than USB-c and Bluetooth, it doesn't seem to really offer anything new. I'm using this keyboard on macOS, BTW.
Does topre feel anything like brown or red, because that too mushy for me.
I need some feel that a key is being clicked, not as much as blue or green but somewhere in between
It's more like Brown to me lol.
Time to get the hhkb layout for everything. The other best thing about the layout is the split backspace!! The hhkb is the reason why I never buy above a 65% anymore. Also really love the fn layer and pretty much replicate it on every other keyboard I get.
Can i get those switches for a drop keyboard?
They sound like a louder lubed Zilent! Nice video Brandon!
Kevin Zyrkowski you don’t really get the thock with zilents. My 2 main boards are an fc660c and a dz65 with 65g zilents (lubed).
Hey BT, can you make a video of how to build a budget keyboard. I would like to build my own but I don't know which parts are best for the price.
There isn't the best one. Everyone likes different things (one might like light Tofu case but another one might enjoy heavy aluminum tank on his/hers/its desk). You can have so much variety of switches (even sub-categories of linear, tactile and clicky). You could enjoy the looks, feel of the switch, or the sound. Personally, I don't think that there is one endgame for you if you go for a hot-swap board. Also rather important is layout/size (40%, 60%, 75%, TKL, full size and many more). Usually, if you are new to keebs, hot-swap PCB (those where you can hot-swap the switches without need to de/solder anything) work usually the best.
But if I had to make a point - the best stuff the stuff that suits YOU the best...
by gk61 with optical switches 30$ swap switches for optical silver lube them with tribosys 3204 add foam at the bottom of the case smother than most expensive switches total cost 50$
soon ;)
Thanks man, I’m ok with a hotswap board, I just don’t want the spacebar to Have this rattle and I also don’t want my keyboard to have this tingy, metallic sound after I press a key. I have a techware phantom 87 with outemu browns and it has both of these problems.
Lack of arrow keys loses this board for me - not everyone uses vim lol great review though Brandon!
He sounds like Bob Ross when he talks about this board
Name of the track playing in the background?
I actually never map anything to ctrl in games, I find it too uncomfortable to reach while using the wasd keys. I've always used caps lock for crouch.
Thanks for the review - I own HHKB Pro2 but I'm thinking about buying another one with hybrid now especially I work from home a lot these days. I have a desktop in my office and want to use my work laptop and be able to switch between these two machines. In their Fujitsu website they say it's a instant switch between devices using a keyboard shortcut but I can't really find anyone does that review. How does it switch between the devices after pre register them? Can u do a demo of that? thanks!
Press fn + ctrl+ 1 to switch in Bluetooth.
But I just use a usb KVM because it also switches my mouse and usb headset
The "liking" curve for the key feel is an underappreciated thing. I went back and forth between HHKB and and a Cherry MX blues board for quite a while becoming a Topre person. (Also, and I will never get tired of saying this, the default Fn layer is crap. I would never use the board if I could not move the Fn key and remap the Fn layer.)
I’m a programmer and I have nightmares when I see a keyboard without arrow keys since I used them all the time to program.
Arturo Filio Villa you still use arrows, you just use them without needing to reposition your hand. Once you get used to it, using the arrows (to select an auto complete or something), hitting enter, then going back to typing is a lot more seamless and less tiring.
@@geoken2 true but you have to use a another they to enable them so Im going to be having to use 3 keys to do commands I normally do with two (arrow + cmd key). I have my anne pro2 gathering dust, Im going to try puthimg the fn key in the caps lock position and see if I can get used to it. For now, 65% for me is the way to go.
Arturo Filio Villa definitely. It’s a toss up for sure. On one hand, you have to use more complex hot key combos to do the same thing, and on the other hand you have less complex combos but need to move your hand further. I guess it just comes to personal preference.
I do CTRL+Shift+Arrow a lot, so using function keys for arrows bumps that up to a 4 key shortcut, which seems like too much. But after a while, in my brain I don’t even think of fn + WASD as 2 keys anymore. I just think of WASD, and pressing the FN first is almost done subconsciously.
@@geoken2 Yeah, I don't know I'm currently using the anne pro2 to see if I get used to it, and as you said I'm using a 4 keys shrotcut to do cmd + shift + fn + arrow key right || left. Seems a bit too much right now in my opinion but I will give it a shot for a day, I do have an Akko incomming where it's a 65% layou and it's literally one key column more, so Idk will see. worst case scenario the Anne Pro 2 will go back in the shelf to gather dust.
Found the non VIM user
In reality tho, it was designed in the 80 by a Japanese CS professor in the days before IDE’s. So it was pretty much designed to be used with VIM and Unix.
u could just buy fc660c. The thing I wish that leopold, realforce and hhkb would make more pbt colored keycaps. The feel is like combining rubber dome with spring, which it is XD it has that after sound
That intro was the best intro I’ve ever seen.
Hybrid Type S or Classic?
The problem with Topre is they are too light for my fingers
I'm using T1 Switches with 78gr springs for almost 2 years now. I can't go back to lighter switches :(
You could try BKE redux domes which exist in 35/45/60/90 but the can be far more.tactile.than topre
I have opposite problem - after light linears (55-63,5g) hhkb feels heavy. I can sey it have 65g tactile bump!!
Love topre but hate them for gaming. Having to bottom out and reset rather then feathering the actuation point for strafing isn't optimal for me.
For typing though they are perfection
Im scared to try split backspace lmaoooo
Backspace, by default, is mapped to the place '\' is. This is actually more comfortable than the ansi backspace imo.
Took you awhile to finally review one XD
I'm sure the feel is great and the sound is pretty nice otb, but I feel like the price tag for what you're getting is hard to justify for me. Glad you like it maybe feeling them would change my mind in the future. 300 for a new set of switches is pretty steep to me.
Great video as always though! Quality just keeps getting better bruh
I'm not sure if topre is worth the hype or the price but I do enjoy it a lot. Once I got used to the HHKB layout I can't go back
Wish more keyboards did this with the caps lock, tired of having to use Control as a crouch or walk function in CSGO.
Daniel Early you could do it yourself with sharp keys. I do it like that because every now and then I have to use my laptop keyboard and it slows me down when I don’t have CTRL on the caps lock key.
Sounds like a rubber dome MX brown switch. Guess you'd have to experience it in person to know it's worth.
It's very nice
It's the most amazing keyboard I've owned like dude
I've owned many logitech Razer and Corsair keyboards and I tried typing on some custom lubed
I can say this is the best experience
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You're welcome;)
Did you just skip threw the whole video to find that
this man is the truth
he was typing at nothing btw lmfaooo
Ooo the switches sound soo good!!
The white desk looks nice!
i like how i just know the keyboard feels. i dont really know on other switches but topre doe
Should try Leopold’s Topre. Heard from quite a few that they all prefer it over the HHKB. Not wireless though.
I heard that Leopold's board have pinging issues because of the metal plate.
Are these better than alpaca's? Lol looking for that holy grail
Sounds like brick walls building in fortnite 😂😂
I'm kinda sad that nobody told him about the Leopold fc660c, better and cheaper Topre experience imo. The only thing that this has over it is the wireless.
I am expecting my JP edition to arrive in the mail tomorrow! It has arrow keys too!
Can you do top 5 best keyboards for 2020