Martin Weiss Says That Josh Allen Is Overrated l THE ODD COUPLE

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  • Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
  • THE ODD COUPLE: Chris Broussard and Martin Weiss talk about the recent ranking of NFL QB's by ESPN. Josh Allen was ranked number 3 overall and Martin Weiss says he's overrated, but this is the right ranking.
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  • @nickwilson6393
    @nickwilson6393 Місяць тому +74

    Justin Herbert is CLEARLY the most Overrated QB😭

    • @ErikForeman
      @ErikForeman Місяць тому +1

      Not even close

    • @andreneal2078
      @andreneal2078 Місяць тому +3

      @@nickwilson6393 he hasn’t done anything but keeps getting rewarded

    • @HockeyDudeJames2
      @HockeyDudeJames2 Місяць тому

      It's not like he plays for the Ravens.

    • @vincente4570
      @vincente4570 Місяць тому

      That’ll change. So I don’t get why he wouldn’t improve under Jim Harbaugh😎

    • @jeezshabazz5074
      @jeezshabazz5074 Місяць тому +1

      Facts

  • @Watchingvideoslikeu
    @Watchingvideoslikeu Місяць тому +31

    Why is Josh Allen & Joe Burrow, just automatically penciled in above Lamar Jackson with no MVPs and no all pros

    • @williamcarter9066
      @williamcarter9066 Місяць тому +19

      You already know that answer!!

    • @marklumar2034
      @marklumar2034 Місяць тому +5

      Lamar definitely gets disrespected but i at least get the argument for burrow since hes been to a superbowl and back to an AFC championship but hes one more injury away from us having to drop him down the list

    • @Jo-jackson
      @Jo-jackson Місяць тому +4

      ​@@williamcarter9066I don't know inform us because last I checked Mahomes is Black so please tell us WHY

    • @Mattmusic11111111
      @Mattmusic11111111 Місяць тому +16

      Cause they can actually win playoff games

    • @shizenatoryt2203
      @shizenatoryt2203 Місяць тому +8

      Because they are better throwers than him. Lamar is great and on a hof trajectory with 2 mvp’s but his downfield throw consistency leaves much to be desired.

  • @segagenesis7708
    @segagenesis7708 Місяць тому +31

    I'll say this. Allen is a great Quarterback. But not only is Mahomes in a league of his own, the discussion between Allen and Lamar isn't loud enough. I just hear Tim Hasslebeck talk about how hard it is to be accurate when you're asked to be such a runner. Well Lamar's been asked to be even more of a runner, never had a top 20 WR on the outside, only had one year with a legit NFL passing scheme, and is by the numbers, more accurate than Allen, with a higher TD % despite FAR fewer attempts, a lower interception %, and all while throwing deeper down the field, than Allen. Yet, the years that Lamar spent in Roman's passing scheme are held against him like a murder he committed twenty years ago. In fact, in college, Lamar was more accurate than Allen, throwing deeper down the field, in a pro style offense, against tougher competition, and there were suggestions he change positions, while Allen was drafted top 10. I say this not to say that Allen is a bad QB. He's great. But no team in the NFL has cared less about the passing game over the past 25 years, than the Ravens and Lamar having to develop in that environment, I think is held against him too much.

    • @arkie622
      @arkie622 Місяць тому +2

      🔥

    • @ektran4205
      @ektran4205 Місяць тому +3

      mahomes has andy reid

    • @Whoa_dummy
      @Whoa_dummy Місяць тому +3

      Quit giving these folks the facts lol. They don’t want them. They can’t see past the hate.

    • @Billsdude17
      @Billsdude17 Місяць тому +2

      @@segagenesis7708 Allen is a much better QB and it's not close stop making a million excuses for Lamar. Allen has 73 more total TDs than Lamar since 2020 and he has more than double Lamar's playoff wins where he plays his best compared to Lamar who plays his worst in the playoffs every year. Allen has 26 total TDs in the playoffs compared to Lamar's 9 and Allen has less turnovers in the playoffs as well... Sorry but no team in the NFL would take Lamar over Allen.

    • @segagenesis7708
      @segagenesis7708 Місяць тому +2

      @@Billsdude17 Allen has also had far more passing attempts, a better commitment (Comparatively) to the passing game from his organization, compared to what Lamar endured under Roman.

  • @goldenstatewarriors9418
    @goldenstatewarriors9418 Місяць тому +4

    Josh Allen is not overrated. For one, he’s maybe the most durable QB in the league. Despite his style of play sometimes involving running over and trucking defenders, he hasn’t missed a game since his rookie season. The best ability is availability, both Burrow and Lamar have missed significant time with injury.
    Allen’s Playoff performances are better than Lamar, Burrow, and anyone except Mahomes. Burrow hasn’t thrown a single 4th quarter TD in the Playoffs. Allen threw 2 within the last 2 minutes against the Chiefs and lost because his defense couldn’t get a stop with 13 seconds left. The Bills defense has been decimated with injuries the last two seasons. He also played better against this years Chiefs defense than any of the other QBs in the Playoffs. For all his turnover warts he has 17 TD’s and 4 INT in the Playoffs. Yes he turns the ball over a lot, but he also has more TDs than any player since 2020, since 2021, since 2022, and last year.
    Is he Mahomes? No. But I fail to see why he can’t be considered the second best. Lamar definitely has the hardware, but even last year, Allen’s numbers were better, and he undeniably gets better while Lamar gets worse.

    • @johnnybuchananjr9344
      @johnnybuchananjr9344 Місяць тому

      Did burrow whooped him through year before in the playoffs
      Hasn't burrow at least been to a SB

  • @nickwilson6393
    @nickwilson6393 Місяць тому +9

    Josh Allen is better the Lamar😭. Lamar Jackson threw a ball in triple coverage

    • @jlocker223
      @jlocker223 Місяць тому +6

      Josh has thrown 100 of triple coverage picks

    • @danielgalan1920
      @danielgalan1920 Місяць тому

      Neither seems to be able to get past Burrow or Mahomes in a big playoff game.

    • @tyboogie6653
      @tyboogie6653 Місяць тому

      But Lamar has 2 mvp and I’m not a Lamar Jackson fan.

    • @jrizzle1790
      @jrizzle1790 Місяць тому +1

      2x mvp to 0 🤣🤣 he's running back Philip rivers

    • @kdr5d
      @kdr5d Місяць тому +2

      @@danielgalan1920Lamar is 5-1 against Joe burrow what are u talking bout?

  • @OBPMA
    @OBPMA Місяць тому +3

    Its shouldn't be a debate the 2-time MVP is #2. I feel in a different era this wouldn't be a whole conversation. LJ has more MVPs, All-pro selections, impressive stats that are historically great, pro bowls (even tho idc about that "popularity contest"), 2nd highest winning % since entering etc. etc.
    What are we talking about!?

  • @Los150
    @Los150 Місяць тому +5

    I’ve yet to hear one soundbite of Josh Allen hate that makes any sense whatsoever.

    • @danielgalan1920
      @danielgalan1920 Місяць тому +1

      Maybe cause aside from that win over Lamar a few years ago, he’s only beaten trash QBs in the playoffs. Only critique I can think of.

    • @jrizzle1790
      @jrizzle1790 Місяць тому

      Turn overs

  • @quintenruckman3505
    @quintenruckman3505 Місяць тому +2

    Josh Allen is SECOND only to Patrick Mahomes! As a Chiefs fan I’ve watched him, Burrow, and Lamar up close in the playoffs. He’s a cut above, dude is a FREAK!!

  • @ericc551
    @ericc551 Місяць тому +5

    Chris. Josh has more TDs then any QB. 173. Chris mentioned only passing TDs. Which Mahomes has more but Josh has more total TDs. Chris statement on that subject was misleading.

    • @ReverendSam1
      @ReverendSam1 Місяць тому +1

      Chris is always trying to push a narrative & making comparisons where he shouldn't!! He's kinda annoying...... IMO 🤔!!

    • @alial-majed6584
      @alial-majed6584 Місяць тому +3

      Another guy that discounts running touchdowns, silliness.

    • @bernyourhart
      @bernyourhart Місяць тому +1

      And the most turnovers by a mile too.

    • @johnnybuchananjr9344
      @johnnybuchananjr9344 Місяць тому +1

      And what had those TD got him

    • @setoalgorytgm2748
      @setoalgorytgm2748 Місяць тому +2

      0-3 in the Playoffs against mahomes. those little cute numbers are a moot point.

  • @FreekPhil
    @FreekPhil Місяць тому +13

    I came to watch the odd Couple but they Never Together .....i feel like a Child who fathers comes to Visit a few times a month 😂😂😂 thats ok but i want my parents back together 😂😂

  • @andrewachal
    @andrewachal Місяць тому +4

    Josh Allen is legit! Dude be dragging those bills

  • @bryanstarke2931
    @bryanstarke2931 Місяць тому +5

    why so many episodes without Chris and Rob together? It's either Rob is with somebody else or Chris with somebody else

  • @jdocean1
    @jdocean1 Місяць тому +3

    Allen is good. Not overrated. Lamar is good also. Neither are as good as Mahomes.

  • @Holafromtheville
    @Holafromtheville Місяць тому +2

    Josh Allen is overrated but burrow and Herbert are not okay got it….

  • @jctslice
    @jctslice Місяць тому +3

    I completely disagree. To me, I don't think it's arguable that Josh is #2. Burrow is never healthy. Josh Allen far outplays Lamar in the playoffs. Purdy I think is a bit too young and we need to see more. I don't think anyone else is even in the neighborhood imo. My Mount Rushmore list of current QBs would be....
    Pat
    Allen
    Lamar
    Burrow

    • @danielgalan1920
      @danielgalan1920 Місяць тому

      If Allen or Lamar are going up against Burrow in a big playoff game, who you taking?

    • @PaulY86-u8t
      @PaulY86-u8t Місяць тому

      I get the argument for Burrow at 2, I have no issue with it. The guy is a killer. But saying Lamar should be above Josh Allen is truly laughable

    • @plugcap2604
      @plugcap2604 Місяць тому

      @@danielgalan1920Lamar , burrow has a long record vs him

  • @RolandBullock-ej8wl
    @RolandBullock-ej8wl Місяць тому +2

    Lamar is one of the best actual passers....that boy is a legend ya'll keep crowning Josh Allen, why? I know that Buffalo weather sux but Lamar is a beast

  • @ektran4205
    @ektran4205 Місяць тому +2

    herbert suffers from terrible coaching

  • @GrapeTeaNews
    @GrapeTeaNews Місяць тому +21

    Yes Josh hella overrated

    • @ReverendSam1
      @ReverendSam1 Місяць тому +3

      What a/b his HC & OC who know his deficiencies but can't scheme a way for them not to b shown🤔??

    • @ektran4205
      @ektran4205 Місяць тому

      @@ReverendSam1 qbc pgc and oc

    • @AilmanF2P
      @AilmanF2P Місяць тому

      @@ReverendSam1 "overrated" Josh go make plays for 60 minutes, i at home know what formations the Bills are coming out in. What about a DC see when he gets paid millions to break down that scheme?

    • @ReverendSam1
      @ReverendSam1 Місяць тому

      @@AilmanF2P Josh is over hyped & has a lot of deficiencies, the longer he holds the 🏈 its trouble for the offense & he'll make a BAD decision!! That's when it's up to his coaching staff to do something to mask that..…....IMO 🤔!!

    • @bigmike-ip8bn
      @bigmike-ip8bn Місяць тому

      How lol ur a 🤡

  • @millionairemillennial86
    @millionairemillennial86 Місяць тому +12

    Allen is one of the most overrated in NFL history.

    • @ReverendSam1
      @ReverendSam1 Місяць тому

      So u don't know a/b SF running Montana off for Steve Young, now he's the most overrated...... IMO 😐🤔!!

    • @robertschoelerman7496
      @robertschoelerman7496 Місяць тому

      No that's the choker in the playoffs lamar

    • @hankarmentroutjr6896
      @hankarmentroutjr6896 Місяць тому +1

      That’s dak prescott. Signed: Cowboys fan

  • @Shelb2moss
    @Shelb2moss Місяць тому +1

    Martin a real one, yall only need him to substitute. Ephraim cool too.

  • @TDR-0484
    @TDR-0484 Місяць тому +1

    Its tough and a lot depends on what style of QB you like. If my team could have any QB except Mahomes, I'd personally want Allen but I like big arm QBs. I also understand why people like Lamar and Burrow (when hes healthy)

  • @barryfeinstein1234
    @barryfeinstein1234 Місяць тому +3

    Pat didn’t win his last SB, his defense did.

  • @MikeMuldoon-wl8ht
    @MikeMuldoon-wl8ht 20 днів тому

    Saying allen hasnt put up a fight against mahomes when 13 seconds happened is crazy😂😂

  • @dionmorrow5271
    @dionmorrow5271 Місяць тому +1

    Who has to do as much as josh does. PM is a great qb. But he also has a ton of help. Tell me where I am wrong?

  • @paulsweet4640
    @paulsweet4640 Місяць тому

    That man lied to yall no one has more TDs in the last four years than Allen. Period no one in NFL history

  • @christiansoldier77
    @christiansoldier77 Місяць тому +1

    Allen is a one man team but he is overrated ??? The guy thats overrated is Burrow This dude is in the wrong line of business SMH

  • @keysersoze6506
    @keysersoze6506 Місяць тому +5

    If there's a discussion on overrated QBs it would be Lamar Jackson. That dude sucks in the playoffs with 2 MVP awards to his name

    • @Whoa_dummy
      @Whoa_dummy Місяць тому +3

      Same amount of AFC championship appearances than Allen with better stats. Stop it

    • @keysersoze6506
      @keysersoze6506 Місяць тому

      @@Whoa_dummy how would he have better stats when he's only thrown for above 200 yards 1 game out of 7 games, his average completion percentage is 57%, and only has 6 TDs 6 ints. Josh out did him in his AFC championship game. Know what you're speaking of before u try to do it

    • @missile87redefined25
      @missile87redefined25 Місяць тому +1

      @@syncretictakeout2842Allen beating up on crappy wild card teams (Patriots, Steelers,etc) and losing to the chiefs every year is not impressive

    • @jrizzle1790
      @jrizzle1790 Місяць тому +2

      Mvp is a regular season award lil guy

    • @keysersoze6506
      @keysersoze6506 Місяць тому +1

      @@jrizzle1790 what relevance does that have to my fact kid

  • @drk2227
    @drk2227 Місяць тому +2

    Josh in playoffs 21tds 4 picks
    Lamar……

    • @vincente4570
      @vincente4570 Місяць тому +1

      The only problem Josh has is the Patrick Mahomes disease he can’t cure in the playoffs🤷🏿

    • @plugcap2604
      @plugcap2604 Місяць тому

      @@vincente4570that’s not true which is why he’s overrated, he’s only been good in 1 divisional round game and he got beat 3 different times by other QBs so where is this only the cheifs stand in his way narrative comes from

    • @vincente4570
      @vincente4570 Місяць тому

      @@plugcap2604 Oh really😳
      I’m sorry but Josh lost to him three times. So I guess we go ignore that one hun?
      By the way he did lose to two other quarterbacks once. So you remember that🫵🏿

    • @jimmyfowose2371
      @jimmyfowose2371 Місяць тому

      Against who? All shitty wildcard teams.
      When the big boys show up, he folds

  • @danielgalan1920
    @danielgalan1920 Місяць тому

    Only thing that Josh Allen has over Lamar, is that he beat him in a playoff game.

  • @Zackaveli
    @Zackaveli Місяць тому +1

    Can we get Rob and Chris on a show together sometime in the future lol? What is going on?

  • @chirocket4791
    @chirocket4791 Місяць тому

    Allen is polarizing. He is sort of a Favre type. Takes a lot of unnecessary risks.Can be spectacular at times. He also can be a turnover machine.

  • @thriftthrift4638
    @thriftthrift4638 Місяць тому

    Josh Allen is the modern day Brett Farr he makes explosive plays can run around and make spectacular plays
    But because of his arm strength, he takes a lot of risk and it’s going to cause a lot of turnovers
    It is wat it is

  • @danielfawcett7816
    @danielfawcett7816 Місяць тому

    I put Lamar, Allen and Burrow in the 2nd tier below Patrick. I wouldnt say any of those 3 are overrated

  • @brennanloder
    @brennanloder Місяць тому

    Josh Allen has never missed a start. Lamar can’t finish one season. That’s why durability isn’t a question. 6’1 210 is way different that 6’5 245. Martin is just as slow as Rob Parker

    • @jay_mac81
      @jay_mac81 Місяць тому

      Lamar finished both seasons when he won his 2 MVPs, please be factual

    • @brennanloder
      @brennanloder Місяць тому

      @@jay_mac81 Lmfaooo barely🤡🤡

  • @orphy6869
    @orphy6869 Місяць тому

    Martin weiss is a CLOWN..Allen has better stats than mahomes...Allen is the better than Mahomes

  • @PatrickMahomeboy
    @PatrickMahomeboy 17 днів тому

    Brou can’t help but mention how he said Mahomes was Jordan-esque😂😂😂

  • @MrRedsBills
    @MrRedsBills Місяць тому

    Once he said he'd take Lamar over Josh he has not point. Look at playoff stats, Lamar is dog in playoffs.

  • @thrak0s
    @thrak0s Місяць тому

    ok right dude made me stop the video cuz being in Buffalo i will tell you EVERYONE says Josh is gonna get hurt when he has to save the day. And it is even worse if they win and he has 1 or 2 plays where he got shaken up.

  • @christiansoldier77
    @christiansoldier77 Місяць тому

    Give Josh Allen some help . He would win many super bowls

  • @playlistiphone8743
    @playlistiphone8743 Місяць тому

    The problem with Lamar Jackson is that a multi league MVP shouldn’t have a losing playoff record.
    CJ Stoud has almost as many playoff wins as Lamar!

  • @marcusbell7627
    @marcusbell7627 Місяць тому +1

    Everybody can live in the past Burrow- I made the superbowl but I choked away 4th quarter lead 0 pts in 4th quarter, Josh well I almost beat Mahomes and I’m always the preseason mvp but Lamar 1st year starter mvp and hurts made Super Bowl can’t live in the past 🤔🤔🤔
    Real top 10
    Mahomes
    Lamar
    Hurts
    Tua
    CJ
    Purdy
    Josh
    Dak
    Love
    Goff

    • @deonpowe9259
      @deonpowe9259 Місяць тому

      Tua and hurts are really high on your list! Herbert???

  • @River-w6h
    @River-w6h Місяць тому +7

    The Bills in general are overrated every season because josh Allen is overrated. In their losses, it's usually because Josh Allen was basically playing for the other team.

    • @ReverendSam1
      @ReverendSam1 Місяць тому +2

      No blame for his HC & OC who know his deficiencies but can't keep them from not being exposed 🤔??

    • @robertschoelerman7496
      @robertschoelerman7496 Місяць тому

      Try watching the games bills win every season there division Allen has more TDs in 6 seasons in NFL history even over mahomes Josh and the bills have the second longest win streak in the last 5 seasons second highest winning record behind mahomes and KC get facts

    • @fredericksteck2256
      @fredericksteck2256 Місяць тому

      I will agree we (bills) are overrated...not because josh is overrated. The problem is our head coach....plain and simple it's a coaching problem. Josh Allen came from a non power 5 school. He didn't have the coaching in college that burrow, mahomes, Lamar had, he went to Wyoming after juco. Just uneducated sports fans

    • @River-w6h
      @River-w6h Місяць тому

      @@robertschoelerman7496 the Bills win with him, yes but not because of him. He tries so hard to be Mahomes but doesn't have the favoritism from the refs to actually pull it off so his interceptions don't get reversed because of some BS defensive penalty.

    • @joel8692
      @joel8692 Місяць тому

      ​@@River-w6h so his interceptions numbers are so high because the refs don't overturn the call?

  • @Breakbeats92.5
    @Breakbeats92.5 Місяць тому

    Wait what, you got Brock Purdy BEHIND Dak? Pa Leeze.

  • @user-ft3oc7ks9z
    @user-ft3oc7ks9z Місяць тому

    Joe Burrow at 2 😂 Don’t these have to be players in the actual starting lineup?

  • @user-pg1em3ci3f
    @user-pg1em3ci3f Місяць тому

    Josh allen is nowhere near mahomes.. he been ro one afc championship game n its insane to have him near nahines

  • @thefutbolapex6307
    @thefutbolapex6307 Місяць тому +2

    Hes actually underrated becuae of how much hate he gets

    • @tristingarcia5718
      @tristingarcia5718 Місяць тому

      Nah he deserves the criticism he gets. To even be compared to Mahomes at this point is overrating him until he proves he can win a SB

  • @MrKennyschunk
    @MrKennyschunk Місяць тому

    Allen>Jackson
    Id listen to burrow being a better passer but give me a qb whos going to actually play

  • @isaiahh4108
    @isaiahh4108 Місяць тому +4

    These top guys are not wayyy behind Mahomes. It’s a team game his organization flipped Hill for 2 future all pro level defensive starters. Reid Spags are geniuses put any of the top 7-9 guys in KC their Mahomes. And Mahomes was my # 1 QB in his class pre draft. But he’s clearly plays for a organization that were winning 11 games a season w/ Alex Smith.

    • @tigera6
      @tigera6 Місяць тому +1

      So then why if Mahomes lost, its about HIM losing to Burrow or Brady, not KC team lost to the Bengals and Patriots/Bucs. If you want to hold the guy mostly responsible for the lost, then he get most credit for the win. And you put Mahomes into ANY of the #2-7 QB team in past year, then saying hes not making that team better, then you are insane.

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 Місяць тому +3

      @@tigera6 buf ran a fake punt w/ Damar Hamlin Balt decided to not run the football it’s clear as day the breaks KC had gotten due to bad coaching by their opponents

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 Місяць тому

      @@isaiahh4108Mahoney is number 1 and it’s not even close

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 Місяць тому

      @@jakieresykes3644 nah y’all are addicted to giving too much credit to the QB

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 Місяць тому

      @@isaiahh4108 It’s not about giving anybody credit it’s just about being objective

  • @andrew9921-
    @andrew9921- Місяць тому

    Martin Weiss knows no ball😭😭😭

  • @FGrecoJR
    @FGrecoJR Місяць тому

    This guy just guessed Tua is 3rd in touchdowns over the last 4 years?? 😂😂😂 wtff

  • @AreolaGrande94
    @AreolaGrande94 Місяць тому +2

    Haters are insane . He’s better than Mahomes

  • @christiansoldier77
    @christiansoldier77 Місяць тому

    Pat Mahomes makes mistakes but the refs bail him out

  • @paulsweet4640
    @paulsweet4640 Місяць тому

    The guy on the rt lied straight of the rip all they talk about is is Josh Allen body breaking down and that he will be cam newton all they ever do. He should say i don’t like white QBs that can move

  • @notoriousLSGshow
    @notoriousLSGshow Місяць тому

    They just making up 💩 to fill air time during this dry season- pathetic AF

  • @roselelouch3038
    @roselelouch3038 Місяць тому +2

    Josh is objectively the 2nd best quarterback in the league literally look at any statistical category playoffs or regular season he’s 2nd by a mile now ovbs Mahomes is in his own tier and it’s not even close but Lamar can’t get it done in the playoffs and is injury prone and Burrow is injury prone and lacks the statistical dominance and let’s be real Josh definitely has a better eye test then Burrow and Lamar

    • @michaelwallace2487
      @michaelwallace2487 Місяць тому

      I like Josh, but Lamar is better. To be penalized for not getting to the Super Bowl, or advancing further in the playoffs doesn't speak to his overall talent, just his play in those playoff games. Lamar carries a team without being wreckless; plays in a tougher division (Bengals, Steelers, Browns)...Josh has no competition in his division--just Miami--which is why his stats looks so good; Lamar wins MVPs.... What I find laughable is people always rate Burrow high because he beats Mahomes, but don't rank Lamar higher because he constantly beats Burrow! LMAO!!! Just Lamar hate. What hurts Lamar, is he doesn't fit the prototype of the typical quarterback which is insane. My view is different because I like him BECAUSE HE DOESN"T FIT THE MODEL, YET STILL WINS GAMES AND MVPs. In my view that's a greater accomplishment. I wanna see if Josh can do consistently what Lamar has always done this season: win and play great with no receivers. If so, I'll at least entertain your position. Until he does that, Lamar is better, and should be consistently ranked number two behind Mahomes.

  • @BillyBong
    @BillyBong Місяць тому

    Yea, I'm not buying that gap theory.

  • @lakersworld2125
    @lakersworld2125 Місяць тому

    How many QBs are better then him besides pat

  • @jjayphilly342
    @jjayphilly342 Місяць тому +1

    NOT IN FANTASY...... 🤷‍♀

  • @RolandBullock-ej8wl
    @RolandBullock-ej8wl Місяць тому

    Please Mahomes and Jackson are on par

  • @GLA45Amg716
    @GLA45Amg716 Місяць тому

    Josh Allen is easily no.2

  • @teddyking6563
    @teddyking6563 Місяць тому

    Lamar has been just as banged up as Burrow but since it wasn't last year I guess Burrow is more injury prone

  • @joshuahunter6913
    @joshuahunter6913 Місяць тому

    You know it's the off-season with questions like this 😂. There are maybe 5 better QBs in the league. Just because guys aren't mahomes or Brady doesn't mean they aren't great.

    • @ReverendSam1
      @ReverendSam1 Місяць тому

      I think Lamar & Josh r on the clock to win when it counts!! There r young QB coming up that will make them obsolete...... IMO 🤔!!

  • @RiioTzZHD
    @RiioTzZHD Місяць тому

    Burrow is the real overrated guy

  • @clrconscience
    @clrconscience Місяць тому

    Lamar Jackson is the 2nd best QB in the league.

  • @DopeThamacc-cx2bi
    @DopeThamacc-cx2bi Місяць тому

    He won't end up like cam they were letting him get hit way after the play

  • @pipinghotarbys3079
    @pipinghotarbys3079 Місяць тому +1

    Even with all those turnovers hes still 2nd in td-to ratio lol

    • @marklumar2034
      @marklumar2034 Місяць тому +1

      For me its not just the amount of TO, which is a lot every year, but when the TOs come. A lot of them have been unforced errors late in games

    • @goldenstatewarriors9418
      @goldenstatewarriors9418 Місяць тому

      @@marklumar2034Are they? A lot of them seem to be 3rd down arm punts.

    • @marklumar2034
      @marklumar2034 Місяць тому

      @goldenstatewarriors9418 i dont have any numbers of the top of my head to support this but from the many games I've seen, and the money I've lost betting on the bills, a lot of his TOs seem to me to happen at pivotal moments

    • @pipinghotarbys3079
      @pipinghotarbys3079 Місяць тому +1

      @marklumar2034 I mean we'd actually have to go over the individual plays, but I know he had one his lowest turnover play rates in his career buy most tos. I also know on at least 3 occasions in 23 that he lead a scoring drive in the final 2 minutes to then lose the game

    • @TheJimnjas
      @TheJimnjas Місяць тому

      And loses to the jets and pats....ultimately preventing him from ever securing the 1 seed.

  • @18lilwest
    @18lilwest Місяць тому

    Mahomes hasnt been or looked the best since hill left, so i call cap
    Bt I know why everyone put him 1

  • @MRoss623
    @MRoss623 Місяць тому +1

    Go watch the film. Josh be CARRYING that team ENTIRE games at times.

  • @Jaromous
    @Jaromous Місяць тому

    Yo Martin, I’d get checked out if I was you man. I can see it in your face that something is off. Pale, sunken dark eyes, and excessive bloating in the cheeks, hopefully everything is ok bro. If it’s alcohol or something talk to somebody man. Changing up and cleaning up a bad diet can go along way too! Your still young man

  • @paulsweet4640
    @paulsweet4640 Місяць тому

    People who dont know football shouldn’t talk football stay yall asses in basketball

  • @mikedbflo716
    @mikedbflo716 Місяць тому

    Martin needs a little vitamin D in his life!

  • @thedeifiedjulius2310
    @thedeifiedjulius2310 24 дні тому

    Such lunacy. Josh can go head to head with Pat

  • @barryfeinstein1234
    @barryfeinstein1234 Місяць тому

    Funny, Lamar doesn’t get hurt?

  • @DopeThamacc-cx2bi
    @DopeThamacc-cx2bi Місяць тому

    Pats 5000 50 td year even though he had the stats he wasn't better than Russell Wilson that year he is now though you got to actually analyze the player man did anybody trying to challenge me go watch the head-to-head

  • @DopeThamacc-cx2bi
    @DopeThamacc-cx2bi Місяць тому

    When people rank quarterbacks you can't look at the statistics and success you have to actually analyze the players it's not basketball to be honest I'm not sure Joe burrow is better than Justin Herbert I just know he's had jamarr Chase

  • @jsparrow12382
    @jsparrow12382 Місяць тому

    Josh Allen had Diggs… Lamar better

  • @DopeThamacc-cx2bi
    @DopeThamacc-cx2bi Місяць тому

    Josh Allen is overrated even though he's very good I don't think he's the second or third best quarterback in the league he's more like 5 - 8 I actually believe Justin Herbert is the second or third best quarterback in the league at this moment I'm not talking about statistics because statistics can be skewed depending on who you have around you and what kind of system is being ran I think after Justin Herbert you look at your joe b if he can stay healthy if he can't stay healthy then he has to go down in the rankings Aaron Rodgers is still the top 10 quarterback but I would put CJ Stroud ahead of him Justin Herbert ahead of him so actually even though I still say he's overrated he's not overrated by much he's more like the fifth best quarterback in the league and they have a ranked as the second or third and with all that said I totally forgot about Lamar Jackson he is actually the second best quarterback in the league

  • @damianclark2080
    @damianclark2080 Місяць тому

    He is even rated??

  • @STR33TJESSUS
    @STR33TJESSUS Місяць тому

    NFL is scripted entertainment all about $$$ not about who's the best

    • @vincente4570
      @vincente4570 Місяць тому +2

      🤫Don’t watch.
      But of course like a nosy neighbor, you’re going to watch👎🏿

  • @TheJHTapes
    @TheJHTapes Місяць тому

    Martin Weiss is a casual for sure

  • @grizzz_9042
    @grizzz_9042 Місяць тому

    He's not overrated but he's not better than Lamar 2 MVPs prove that.

  • @Newbalance0311
    @Newbalance0311 Місяць тому

    No.
    Im putting a BOLO out for Robert Parker though.

  • @davidlooney621
    @davidlooney621 Місяць тому

    He absolutely is overrated but Lamar Jackson is the most overrated quarterback I've ever seen talk about mistakes in bad plays in big games

    • @joel8692
      @joel8692 Місяць тому

      Dak is definitely more overrated than Lamar tho. The cowboys have been stacked with talent from the start of Daks career and he underachieves time after time

  • @tyemimms2184
    @tyemimms2184 Місяць тому

    Lamar 2x mvp is 4th best ???

  • @AverageDeliveryGuyTV
    @AverageDeliveryGuyTV Місяць тому

    Hmmm let me get his playoff stats

  • @kdr5d
    @kdr5d Місяць тому

    Joe burrow is overrated as well

  • @chadtodd2094
    @chadtodd2094 Місяць тому

    Sure!!!

  • @bigmike-ip8bn
    @bigmike-ip8bn Місяць тому

    This dudes a clown

  • @slimischillin7753
    @slimischillin7753 Місяць тому

    Yes

  • @drebeavers2458
    @drebeavers2458 Місяць тому

    Right J Allen run just as much as Lamar but the question is will Lamar body hold up lol we kno why it’s cause he yt Mahomes is the GOAT what does Brady do better than Mahomes❓ NOTHING

  • @kingnovi9404
    @kingnovi9404 Місяць тому

    This dude trying to discredit Pacheco because of draft status which is what he criticizes people for when they do it to purdy them turn around and say the chiefs defense was young as if that actually matters all because he wants to venerate Mohames

    • @jctslice
      @jctslice Місяць тому

      Yeah, that's strange. Age doesn't mean anything really. If you can ball, you can ball, regardless of age

    • @kingnovi9404
      @kingnovi9404 Місяць тому

      @@jctslice yea it’s like I said he just wants to unnecessarily put machines on a pedestal we already know how great he is. But the defense was the best in the nfl. At the very least most clutch defense

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 Місяць тому

      @@kingnovi9404 First of all as much I love Purdy the 49ers did go a Super Bowl without him meanwhile before the Chiefs got Patrick Mahomes people were calling Andy Reid a choke artist because he couldn’t win the big games

    • @kingnovi9404
      @kingnovi9404 Місяць тому

      @@jakieresykes3644 what does that have to do with what I said.
      And by that logic then the 49ers are another team that can’t win the big one.

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 Місяць тому

      @@kingnovi9404 It has a lot because if you put any of the elite quarterbacks on the 49ers they easily win the Super Bowl

  • @dominicharris5489
    @dominicharris5489 Місяць тому +1

    Joe Burrow the most overrated QB ever. living off of the the bengals' few deep playoff runs. 9td 4 ints in 7 games. No truly great performance in the playoffs. Most mediocre playoff stats. He is not special at any facet of QBing.

    • @jctslice
      @jctslice Місяць тому

      Only 2 playoff runs, but I can't say he's overrated at all. The health holds him back, not his play

    • @allisondecker1918
      @allisondecker1918 Місяць тому

      Shiesty not being special in any QB facet. What a delusional hot button falsely portrayed take. He's led the league in completion %, is the most accurate QB in league history, has thrown for the most 400+ yard games in a player's first 3 seasons, and has the most 500+ passing yard games with 4 TDs in league history, but he's not a special elite QB that is a rare talent to find.
      Think about all of the gunslingers that haven't come anywhere close to throwing for 500 yards in multiple games. Mahomes, Allen, Stafford, Aaron, Brady and Peyton. He'll only accrue even more over the next 15 years. That stat alone proves his greatness.
      No special playoff performances. That's delusional. He took the worse O line in NFL history to the Super Bowl. 4/5 of those O line starters are out of the NFL. You do realize they allowed him to be sacked 19 times in 4 playoff games the Super Bowl year, which was an NFL record that you don't want to break.
      9 of those sacks came in one game against the Titans as well and he just kept battling/elevating everyone's play around him until the end without showing a single pulse.
      He's also been sacked more times than Mahomes in only 3 seasons of play juxtaposed to Mahomes' 6 seasons (Burrow-148 times in 52 games for reference Andrew Luck was sacked 115 times in 52 games; Mahomes- 148 times in 114 games played). Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson have been sacked 169 times in 86 games for Lamar and 175 times for Josh in 94 games.

    • @allisondecker1918
      @allisondecker1918 Місяць тому

      The Super Bowl game, the Chiefs 2022 AFCCG when he led them to the biggest comeback in AFCCG history, demolishing the Bills in the divisional round without 3 of his starting O linemen were just some of his greatest playoff moments.
      By your standard Mahomes would also be overrated since he's only thrown 7td's to 5 interceptions in all 4 Super Bowl appearances.
      Josh Allen also had the ball with 2 minutes to go in this year's divisional round and couldn't seal the game. He fumbled within the red zone, Bills recovered, then he proceeds that play with a near interception and incomplete passes.
      Why do you also think that Joe Brady is taking the ball out of his hands more often? He can't be trusted to not turn it over in high pressure moments. The media that has anointed him to the highest pedestal also claimed he was going to win the Super Bowl and regular season MVP several seasons in a row now. He's come nowhere close to achieving either.
      Shiesty will have you eating all of your words. Bayou Burrow Bengal Bowl is coming to New Orleans in February 2025.

    • @allisondecker1918
      @allisondecker1918 Місяць тому

      @@jctslice 2 deep playoff runs in 3 seasons played. I agree freak injuries have been as a direct result of horrible O line play (knee) and wrist (Clowney's 300lb body trapping Shiesty's wrist as he was bracing his arm for the sack). The only time that they didn't advance to the Super Bowl, or AFCCG was when he was injured. They were 1 unblocked offsides Aaron Donald sack away from winning the Super Bowl.
      It's really not crazy to see now why 4/5 O line from that Super Bowl squad are out of the league entirely. Hopefully we can limit the number of sacks drastically over the next few years because 148 sacks over 55 games is inexcusable. It's negligence by the Bengals prior to now to not surround him with top tier starting/backup depth O linemen pieces.

    • @dominicharris5489
      @dominicharris5489 Місяць тому

      @@allisondecker1918 this either. compact your statements and points better.

  • @flyguy7825
    @flyguy7825 Місяць тому +1

    Josh Allen is not overrated is the real in terms of talent outside of Patrick Mahomes. He has arguably the best porn NFL sling that football and legit arguably second only to Lamar Jackson in terms of being a running quarterback. The guy almost has the complete package the weakness in his game is that he is a turnover machineis the ultimate gunslinger of the NFL

  • @Mattmusic11111111
    @Mattmusic11111111 Місяць тому

    Mahomes ain’t doing anything that Brady hasn’t done. Brady has won super bowls with less than Mahomes has had. They say Mahomes has a bad receiving core do we forget about the Chris hogans and Troy brown and Deion branch types that Brady had

    • @universe-ie2mk
      @universe-ie2mk Місяць тому +3

      So top 10 defenses with mutliple hall of famers on that side is less? Lets give more credit to brady's defenses.

    • @Mattmusic11111111
      @Mattmusic11111111 Місяць тому +1

      @@universe-ie2mk how was Mahomes defense this yr they were a top 5 nfl unit they won the buffalo and Baltimore playoff games

    • @GODISGREAT_12
      @GODISGREAT_12 Місяць тому

      True for both but Aaron is the GOAT

    • @tigera6
      @tigera6 Місяць тому

      @@Mattmusic11111111 Brady defense won him SBs with him scoring 13pts or throwing for 150ys-1TD. Last year KC defense was amazing, but thats the FIRST time it happened to Mahomes. Brady has gotten a solid defense for most of his career.

    • @jctslice
      @jctslice Місяць тому

      ​@@universe-ie2mk Mahomes had arguably the very best defense in the league lol. This year isn't the year to make that point lmao

  • @lonbwoy007
    @lonbwoy007 Місяць тому +34

    Josh Allen is Better than lamar.

    • @gerardbonner6464
      @gerardbonner6464 Місяць тому +17

      Based on what? Not accolades or winning.

    • @YoureWrongHeresWhy
      @YoureWrongHeresWhy Місяць тому

      Lol, because he is white? That's the only thing he is better at... Being more white than Lamar other than that, idk.

    • @beyondthedetails
      @beyondthedetails Місяць тому +8

      Lmfao. In what metric? Winning? MVP’s?

    • @keyodi
      @keyodi Місяць тому +4

      Based on???

    • @keyodi
      @keyodi Місяць тому +4

      They said Mahomes isn’t a top tier QB but Allen is?!?!?

  • @Mattmusic11111111
    @Mattmusic11111111 Місяць тому +3

    Josh Allen is Brett Favre with less achievements

    • @GODISGREAT_12
      @GODISGREAT_12 Місяць тому

      Right

    • @ektran4205
      @ektran4205 Місяць тому

      josh allen is jim kelly

    • @Mattmusic11111111
      @Mattmusic11111111 Місяць тому

      @@ektran4205 play style is more Favre run around strong arm kinda tough style but at least Favre win a sb

  • @danielmoskowitz9040
    @danielmoskowitz9040 Місяць тому

    Josh Allen has almost the same exact numbers as mahommes over the last 4 seasons, he has 25 more TDs and 25 more turnovers so its a wash. (here is an interesting fact guess who has the second most turn overs...MAHOMMES!!!!!! ) But lets get real other then the 2022 season where they lost to the bengals in the wild card, Josh has not turned the ball over, when he is in the playoffs, he is smart (again aside from 2022) He didnt commit one turn over last year in the playoffs, he positioned his team to win, but he cant catch the balls (diggs) or make the field goal (Bass). Get your head on straight Weis, your arguments are weak. Also Mahommes has had not just all star but all world weapons in Hill and Kelsey, a top 3 O-line every season he has played in the NFL, a solid run game year to year (d/t the online). Yes this year he lost hill but ohhh wait he now has the 2nd best defense in football!!!! with the best offensive head coach since BIll walsh, Allen has had no run game and (other then Dawkins who is a top 5 LT) he has had a revolving door on his O-line. So not sure i agree with some of this crit

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 Місяць тому

      First of all Mahomes literally won 2 Superbowls without Tyreek Hill and actually outside of Travis Kielce he won 2 without a Legitimate number 1 receiver

    • @danielmoskowitz9040
      @danielmoskowitz9040 Місяць тому

      @@jakieresykes3644 I am not saying Mahomes is bad nor am i saying he is not the best qb in football, but it think sometimes we overlook the advantages he had over other QBs when we compare them. But you are right he didnt have Hill last year, but he had the number 2 defense in football, Top 3 Oline, and the greatest offensive mind scheming guys wide open in Andy Reid. And Kelcy for all intensive purposes is a W1, the dude puts up more numbers then most W1s. He had more receving yards then 49ers top two WR combined in the super bowl. (im not saying that is patricks fault, ANY Qb would kill to be in his place) But again im not saying Patrick is not the best in the league but for me im tired of everyone acting like there is this huge gap betwen Mahomes, Allen and burrow. i like Patrick he is a good dude and I watch new heights everyweek. I think its extreme fan boys like Nick Write that just burn my bacon. He is incapable of giving a non biased take when it comes to the Chiefs. He says stuff like the Chiefs have a better roster than the 49ers...which just is not true when you look at amount of 1st team and second team all pros they have. LIke just give some accurate annalysis dude. I know the Chiefs won last year, but sometimes the best team does not always win, just look a the year the Giants beat the Pats when they were on that undefeated tear.

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 Місяць тому

      @@danielmoskowitz9040 It really is a big gap and it’s not even close

    • @danielmoskowitz9040
      @danielmoskowitz9040 Місяць тому

      @@jakieresykes3644 well I guess we’ll just have to disagree. I think he is ahead, but I don’t think the gap is that big. But we will see this year. If Mahomes has another year like he did last year then the argument there is a massive gap holds less water.

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 Місяць тому

      @@danielmoskowitz9040 Ain’t no disagree because what you’re saying is not a fact

  • @Mattmusic11111111
    @Mattmusic11111111 Місяць тому

    Damn straight he is

  • @missile87redefined25
    @missile87redefined25 Місяць тому +1

    Allen is still living off that 13 seconds game.

  • @FuzzyStayBuzzin183
    @FuzzyStayBuzzin183 Місяць тому

    Dak Prescott is overrated

    • @TD-de6zf
      @TD-de6zf Місяць тому +1

      How? All yall do is say he's trash! 🤷🏿‍♂️