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HOW TO USE A CORNER TROWEL
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2019
- Is this a PROFFESSIONAL TOOL or just a GIMMICKY DIY TOOL? In this video I coat some corners to find out!
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Never realized what we were missing on UA-cam until you started making these drywall videos
Truth lol
I have a recently renovated Ottawa house that was drywalled by a supposedly decent company with guys that had decades of experience. Just about every inside corner was undercut on one side or the other. Every corner that I've touched up afterwards with a corner trowel looks great. Same experience with my previous house, too.
I’m bad at mudding but that made me a good sander.
I was bad too but after 3 or 4 jobs. I've gotten the hang of it. Keep trying.
That’s hilarious
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I tell people, "I may not be fast, but I'm not good either!" 😁
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When I was taught to do corners it was with a corner trowel and I've used one ever since (16 years). I feel my results are really good (compared to other drywall finishing jobs I've seen which are mostly production crap). But now I'm seeing the potential benefits of "one side at a time" and I'm looking forward to giving it a go on my next job (or house project first). It looks like it can get a sharper and cleaner corner. I was put off trying this method a few years back when I trimmed a house that was finished that way but in hindsight it was their sloppy and inattentive sanding abilities that left horrible three way corners and other terrible joints.
I have learned tons with your videos to massively improve what I thought I knew about drywall finishing. Keep up the amazing work
It did a half decent job. But I had to touch it up and it was more sanding. Also considerably slower. I don't doubt that you could get pretty good with it with more practice.
@@vancouvercarpenterafter taping and flushing corners do all your 3ways first with 6 in. knife...let it set...then do straights with 4 in. + corner tool...i do it in 4 steps...apply mud both sides with 4, wipe with corner tool, wipe edges tight with 4, wipe and finish with corner tool-dont touch again, feathered edges will sand off. Should have about 5 in. wide line on both sides. Get better/ faster with exp...but leaves a nice corner filling in irregularities.
My first few years I used the traditional 1 side at a time method. For the last 20 years I use a corner trowel. The cheap red plastic handle ones are better than the marshal ones.
I've used a corner trowel for 40+ years. I think my results are good. Heard about the one-side-at-a time method but thought it needless extra taping day. My work was mostly baths and basement so all knife work. Agree with you that this tool is tricky to get right. Redoing the basement in my new home and I'll give your way a try. Thanks.
I keep a corner trowel in my bag and use it for only one thing. It beds tape beautifully ,with some practice of course.
John Czeiszperger I was going to say the exact same thing. I have never used or even thought about using a corner trowel beyond embedding tape. But I figured someone had to have already said it. Couldn’t agree more my man!
Ditto. That's all I use it for, bedding the tape and applying a top coat to the corner all on the first coat. It makes a great inside corner to apply successive coats, and requires less coats to finish that inside corner
I use a 50mm corner tool you bed tape and 100mm corner tool to top coat and never have any problems even on 3 way corners.
@@marcellemay7721 Agreed. Been using them for years. The thing I can't seem to work out is the OUTSIDE corner tool; faster using a 10" knife.
@@garychandler4296 I don't how or why you would even use an outside tool unless you were forming a plaster corner with no bead under it. Why would any one do that?.. except for maybe around an arch way or something.
That tool was magical for me, I'm a total noob, I'm working on my own house, not doing professionally, and it helped me to get really great corners that otherwise I can't pull off, also allowed me to spent much less time on them.
Same here, I just do my own projects and that corner trowel sure made my life a lot easier and they are plenty, plenty good enough for me!
@@marvinmullet6362 Thanks. I'm doing a bath surround with mold resistant Fibatape, so I'm going to try the inside corner tool. All the videos I can find show paper tape.
@@marvinmullet6362 thanks, i'm trying to decide whether i should buy one of these. i know i'm going to botch up the job, i'm just not sure which tool to do it with.
@@carletonhoffman LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
I only use the corner trowel to apply my first coat of mud when bedding tape. I find it is easier to get good mud coverage with it, and it's quicker than alternating sides with a 4" knife. After I apply tape to the mud, I bed and dress it with the 4".
I'm renovating old houses and you are teaching me gold tricks. Thank you so much mate. Great videos.
I love my corner trowels. Mesh tape in the angle, coat and fill using a 2.5" corner trowel and hot mud. Then I put on the 2nd coat using a 4" corner trowel and topping light box mud. And always feathering the edges. Much faster than one side at a time
Damn, I do the exact same thing
I just did work with an “outside corner” trowel filling in a new receptionist opening at an office. I applied a little mud to both sides and then made a pass. Looked pretty good. Ran another pass once dry and looked great. Gotta fill in middle last. They do take a while with mud needing to dry.
I just did my first drywall repair in my garage and now realize how bad I did! Thank you for these videos, you make it look so easy, but it sure makes me realize how much more practice I need to do!
Corner Trowel also can be very well used when you put your tape down to place your tape into the mud. What I use is a Mud caulk gun to push a very big sausage into the corner, apply my bend tape and than run just once with the corner trowel over it forcing it to mash and spread evenly enough to both sides of the tape. The key is I use a sausage dispenser to push the mud into the corner joint first and after it as well to cover evenly the tape with mud. Give it a try and you will see it may speed things up for you. Still a banjo is way faster but a banjo is also an investment.
You have tremendous skill with your arms and wrist joints dude. I’ve taped and finished countless projects and I’m tellin you guys, his dexterity is amazing. That EFFORT. And determination. Well done bud.
Yeh those wrists would have some rock solid ligaments
I have been finishing drywall for almost 23 years. I have used every possible method to tape, coat and skim drywall. I have used the corner trowels and have not had any problems getting satisfactory results. If you have ever ran a rubber knife to finish an off angle( which was the easiest method 20 years ago), then try to use the same principle on the 90° angle. When you feather it, do not just feather the edge. Hold your 4-6 inch knife flat against the wall and remove all but say 2 inches of mud from both sides. Then, when you go to use the corner trowel, pull it as described in video. Using a finger on each outside edge of the back side of the trowel as you are holding it, and holding at about a 45° angle. Apply enough pressure to keep the trowel tight against the wall and pull from one end to the other. Keeping consistent pressure on the trowel, as if you were painting. Make one or two passes with the trowel, and you should achieve a satisfactory angle. If at first you dont succeed, keep trying. Practice makes perfect. Hope this helps anyone who is still trying to use a corner trowel to coat corners. Use your knife to wipe any excess edges, being careful not to cut into your nice mudwork and wait for it to dry up some. If you are running multiple corners follow this same method all the way through. When the mud is dry or at least dry enough you can work on it again. Pick the corners and it is pretty much done.( Picking means coating the ends of all three corners at one time) A little light sanding and some touch up and you should have a perfect corner.
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I'm doing one wall right now and have been watching a bunch of your videos. I did some prefill yesterday evening and, in anticipation of needing it tomorrow, literally just bought a corner trowel a few hours ago. Having it sitting in the bag with the receipt. That may end up back at the store now.
I have success with a corner trowel by doing the following.
1) load mud directly onto the corner trowel.
2) run the corner with the trowel spreading your mud.
3) next, run the corner again, only putting good pressure on one side while the other side lightly skims the mud.
the pressure feathers the edge. I found it difficult to try and achieve good results while applying pressure to both sides at the same time.
4) finally, repeat this on the other side that was lightly skimmed.
I'm a DIYer and recently took down a lot of popcorn ceiling in my house. Sure learned a lot about skim coating and sanding lol. However as I now have somewhat jaggedy edges at the join of wall and ceiling, I want to be able to fill in those areas. Contractor friend with 25+ yrs experience has suggested a corner trowel so I plan to get a small one and have at it. Having watched your video I think I'll be able to do a passable job. Thanks for the instructional vid!
I have used this corner tool to shape the bead of compound before applying the tape and then squish tape into the corner. It gives the most uniform results. Finishing and initial compound application is always with 4” knife
That tool might be helpful in getting corner lines more straight in old crooked houses
I used one yesterday thinking it might be easier than I remembered, it wasn't horrible but getting consistent results it tough for me. I do find that you can't try to stretch way out as its hard to keep the pressure consistent and angle correct.
Today was my first taping and mudding job as a new painting services company. I was instructed by the handyman on site to do both inside corners at the same time. I proceeded with the closet first and then stopped halfway through. ONE SIDE AT A TIME ONLY!!
I learned on a corner trowel, and don't need to use a knife with it. I keep my mud laying on my hawk like a fat pancake, and plow the trowel into it picking up what I need on both sides. Smear in out, usually half going one way, the other half going the other direction. Make several passes in both directions to smooth and level. Clean the blades on my hawk, then cut away excess mud from the far edges of the joint using the front of the tool. Clean the blades on the hawk. Make a feathering pass on each side of the joint with the tool fairly flat, putting pressure on the outside edge of the joint with very little pressure in the corner. Easy-peasy.
I agree he seems biased. How about a video with a zero experienced ‘taper’ showing them using both methods ( corner tool vs knife) and look at the results after just one application.
As a more experienced DIYer I learned, through trial and error, to use the corner trowel to imbed the tape but that is all. Then do the sides one side at a time. That way I do not tear the paper when trying to get it into the corner. But I now realize I have not been thinning the mud enough. So I needed the corner trowel to force the tape into the corner.
One good use of a corner trowel is using hot mud where you need to use green mesh for mold resistance. You can really push the hot mud into the corner gaps. Hot mud doesn't shrink much so no cracks. Then finish up with a 6" knife one side at a time with regular compound.
Your videos are FANTASTIC!!!
I get fairly consistent results with a corner trowel because I don't put too much mud in the corner to start with... so the trowel always bridges the entire swath of mud. This means I really don't have to taper in edges because they always end up tapered with pressure from the trowel. If I need to run the mud out wider then I wait for the first coat to dry...and then use a 6 inch knife. I admit I am certainly not a professional. I tried the knife method and always found I got an inconsistent corner that had to be chiselled out or built up in spots. Perhaps my technique is pretty crappy...but I am a retired body repair man used to putting body filler on straight. Our motto used to be "The bodywork is only as straight as you are" LOL.
Lol
I was just looking at one I'd bought 20yrs ago sitting in my drywall bin as I am refinishing our bathroom today. I recall thinking it was soooo necessary back then. Today I can't recall the last time I used it for corners. Out of curiosity I checked to see your take on this tool. You made me feel a bit advanced 😉
that v-tool actually has been working ok for me. I set it down for a decade. for some reason, i got the things to work well. I will continue to use it.
I have never used edge, I always use 4 or 5inch knife, the difference is here in Poland we cover all walls and ceilings in the mud 2 coats finish flat as possible then sand quite a lot of work and processes .
Thank you for the video good information 👍
I'm a newbie at this stuff, but I used one when I did the bathroom a couple of years ago, and my experience matched yours. A source of frustration in my hands!
Tim Elley get it wet and it glides like butter
VC - I enjoy watching your videos because you explain things well and speak so eloquently. I have tried to learn from pro's working on other jobs, who knew what they were doing but weren't very good at explaining things to a newbie. I learned to use the corner tool thru trial and error. I got great results after applying the mud on one side at a time, then finishing with the corner "tool", feathering any 'outside' ridges with a 4 inch blade. I an avid do-it-yourself'r and finished an entire 2nd floor, including drywalling and taping, by myself. I never applied more mud than just into the corner. I learned along the way that too much mud meant more sanding, so I never got those hairline cracks because i layered the mud real thin before using corner tool and just applied a second coat the same way. YES, it was more work than your way but I was not in a hurry. I was patient to learn the right technique because I would be staring at any mistakes I made, for years to come! (And i don't like to see mistakes!)
After a week of being totally green and struggling corners I went out and bought one and then saw this video. As someone who isnt a professional I think itll work out nicely for me
I don't do a lot of drywall, but I've gotten pretty good with a corner trowel,,,it actually saves me a step now,,,the trick is in the feather,,,and I've found a 5 inch knife works best because it flexes more...
Use a blue steel knife, very bendable. You will enjoy using it 😉.
I used the corner trowel for a few years but I now do one side at a time because my corners turn out sharper with less mud buildup, they simply look better. I think I may get some good use out of my old corner trowel as a plank shim, thanks for the idea.
I think the fact that you're exceptionally skilled and experienced at mudding is skewing your view of how useful a corner trowel might be to a rank amateur. It's faster and easier for you because you've done tens of thousands of corners and you're used to the tool you always use to do it. The typical DIYer has little to no experience mudding at all, let alone doing trickier bits of mudding like corners, butt joints, etc. They have no comfort level with any tool for any particular application because they just haven't done it enough to establish it. For someone in that situation I can see a corner trowel being useful if they insist on trying to do it themselves. I'd have a lot more confidence that someone with no mudding experience could achieve at least a reasonable result with a corner trowel than a regular knife.
Amateur DIY'er here. I just tried out an inside corner trowel for the first time, and I have to agree with Vancouver Carpenter. It is fussy and definitely did not save me any time or effort.
I've done several drywall projects, and have always done the inside corners with a 4" knife, and figured out the hard way that I just had to do one side at a time. In my current project, I figured I'd try out an inside corner trowel, hoping it would speed up the project and save me some time. I found it very difficult to get an even application down the middle of the corner. Very easy to have it too thick on one wall and too thin on the other in various spots, alternating between both sides. And in quite a few places, it left too much in the corner, and they dried and cracked. That required more sanding, which left dust in the cracks, which came back out and left blobs and streaks on my next coat.
If someone else has good luck with the inside trowel, I hope they can post a video for us amateurs telling us how to avoid these same problems.
@@alanmillar2905
Again you have done enough of it to have already established a comfort level doing it another way. That is not even remotely relatable to a rank amateur with no mudding experience whatsoever.
I mean to be fair he said you can get an acceptable result, just not professional. Seems like this is more of a response video of him explaining why he never uses it. And I also agree, when it comes to drywall I don't have much experience, but I remember the second project I did I bought a corner trowel and i could t get a tight corner without essentially wiping all the mud off. Ended up taking my time and pulling from the corner out and it looked better than using a corner trowel. (I never watched any videos on mudding and never realized how easy it is to just do one side at a time lol)
@@kyleaguiar3413
Most people have difficulty even getting an acceptable result on the ideal straight joint between two sheets. Getting an acceptable result on a corner joint would be a monumental achievement for them.
@@Rowgue51 oh I totally agree, I'm just saying I don't think the video is saying "don't use them, they suck" it's him responding to people asking in previous videos why he doesn't use them. And what I said about myself is because I'm the type of person where if im not good at something I'll be disappointed till I'm decent at it. The finish I got using a corner trowel probably would have looked perfectly normal to anyone else that'd ever see it (unless it was a pro drywaller) but I'm a weirdo and I'd look at it every time I walked by and hate myself for it and contemplate sanding it all out and getting it perfect lol
You know, I think that Vancouver Carpenter's drywalling videos are the best UA-cam has on offer. First rate. My wife and I are looking forward to our next job!
I like my corner trowels...smaller one for mudding and taping, bigger to finish. Touch up with broad knife. I use a dustless vac sander with mesh screen...excellent results. I also haven't used paper tape in decades...once embedded, the meshes are far stronger. Loved your videos...a sense of humor and work ethics are nice to see.
the mesh is better in general for application its so nice to apply all your tape to a room instead of jumping back and forth between mud tape over and over again
ROFL 🤣 😂 had me knee slappin from the start with the "oh you mean plank shim " !!!!
Wish I'd seen this video and your other one about coating one side first before I bought the corner trowel. Really frustrating to use, that's for sure. Thanks for all your videos, I've learned so much from them all!
I inherited a corner trowel from my grandfather. He was born in 1901 and died in 1988, so maybe he did use it for plaster, but it's pretty shiny so maybe he didn't use it at all. I'm a novice at drywall but you inspire me to get better at it. I tried it on bedding tape and it was helpful, but I don't think I'd use it for finishing.
Yes, good for bedding. I Like Ben but it is not giving the whole story to just skip this big point which is how most people us it.
It's for finishing plaster walls. I inherited one from my father too.
I use them, just did my kitchen drywall and got best corners with that. I kept messing up the inside with the knife so I would coat it, apply tape and smooth it with the corner tool. I held it at a shallower angle than you did and went a little slower. Worked OK for me as a DIY guy.
Ben, As a DIY guy, I can only say that I really appreciate your work and advice. I was joking with my wife today that I tried to get you to come take over my job but you said that you just didn't have time to catch a flight to New Mexico. Thank you for your videos.
It is all about practice, and what tools you are used to using. I have been using corner trowels for 20 years, and it is just as good as any other method. This video is YOUR opinion, nothing more, nothing less. These tools have been used by quality drywall finishers way longer than YOU have been alive.
Ben, I don't know if you read these, I'm sure you don't which is a contradiction to my first statement. What I am sure about is that the videos you make made the difference between what was surely to be a tragic failure of my bathroom renovation and a great success. Your instructions are right on the money and the narrative during the work makes sense of what is needed. Thanks again.
I'm left handed AND I like that tool. I apply the mud with the same tool so I don't need another
blade in my hand. I've laid tape with it and use it on a finish coat. Though you're right it's obviously not suitable for every situation. I find it's only issue, from time to time, is the construction underneath it.
I've been using the corner trowel for years if u can get good at using it its much faster and easier and looks really good
It’s a time and practice thing. I use it to speed up projects,and not go over a second time for other half. I don’t to enough to justify bazooka set up.
Another great video. Thank you.any times I've almost purchased one of these thinking it would make me more efficient. Now I'm glad I never have.
08:43 “ one coat every time” ( using a 4” knife) …..wow that’s amazing ! I’ve been in the trades for 30 years and have never seen an inside corner taped by hand in one coat
Indeed, 4" ...1 coat 👍
I used a corner trowel on my back room. It went on pretty smooth, but it has hairline cracks now. Thanks for explaining why. I think one reason I went to the corner trowel was that with the knife corners I sometimes cut into the tape.
Your videos are some of the best on youtube, very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to make these
Thanks for this. I have a corner trowel, and I have never liked using it. I thought it was because I was not experienced enough!
I’m a maintenance technician and I like the inside and a
Outside corner trowels outside is very useful because people really ding corners up
I’ve been bin watching your videos for the better part of a week now. I built a 4 foot wall extension and it’s been absolute misery! You have no idea how many hours and curse words went into this damn project. Blending the new wall into the existing has been a nightmare. You my friend have skills and I tip my hat to you because your trade is not easy
I love the corner trowel!
I bought one of these and got FANTASTIC results. The trick is to use your other hand to push the metal FIRMLY into the corner. Then lift the handle ever so slightly and just glide it across. Did all my corners in one easy pass and hardly sanded anything. Using the tool with one hand with a nasty angle like that will cause all the nightmare problems he's showing you.
This guy is good I would hire him in a heartbeat in my crew I started taping since I was 17 I'm 35 now just by looking at this guy I know he's a good taper
Do u run taping tools? Boxes, Bazookas etc....? Is it just a US thing or something??
I just installed my first drywall job. I really liked using the corner trowel for setting and wetting/skimming tape quickly on long corners. I'm going to try it on my second coat tomorrow.
I totally agree with your analysis much easier with 4, 5, or even six inch blade one side at a time... I too had one of those tools at one time sold it at my garage sale!
I really like watching your videos it makes me realize how bad I really am at mud and drywall 👍👍
It's oddly relaxing to watch you mud walls. I also enjoy many tricks of the trade
Thank you for the insight on these corner trowels. I too have found that a 4 inch knife was much better and started to wonder if I just was bad at using the corner trowel.
As a taper since 1986, I have found limited use for an inside corner trowel. That is, when I have to coat a corner bead that is only a few inches away from an inside corner/angle. The corner trowel helps to squarely fill the angle and corner bead at the same time. It can also be useful in a pinch when I want to square the crease of the angle and don't have drying time to coat one side of the angle and wait for it to dry before coating the other side. The corner trowel does not feather well at all, but the outer edges of the coat can be skimmed when the edges have dried out a bit.
Richmond slug? Lol
I had a boss say to me once, don't let perfect get in the way of "good enough". :)
Good enough for a contractor is poor quality for the client
@@neocollective The trouble is, the client does not want to pay for perfect they want to pay for good enough but the want perfect and if you price for perfect you will not get the job.
@@MegaDavyk and they will never understand this unless they’ve been on the other side
@@MegaDavyk Judge Milian's father is a general contractor and when she has cases involving contractors she usually says to the plaintiffs something along the lines of "You get fast, cheap, or good... pick two"
@Anifco67 People do not understand if you are running a buisness you have a lot of hidden overheads to cover and you have to charge enough to cover those. Someone running a buisness can easily be putting in 80 hrs a week, not all of than on the job site of course but still entitled to be paid for that.
If you want a high quality job Tell the contractor thats what you want and you will be happy to pay for that.
I bought one os these. Used it once...in a closet. Never used it again. I am, however, now a fan of paper faced metal inside corner beads. I have 25 (drywall) inside corners in my basement remodel and they are well worth the $50 for me.
This house is somewhere in the Canadian wildness maybe! I saw the forest out of the window. Beutuful place for living.
I saw this thing today in the diy store. I just could not imagine how this should work decently (for me). Thanks for the proof 😉
so i wanted to try the inside corner tool as well i have had decent luck but mainly because of many trial and errors. its all around way more work and best way ive found to use it where it produces a nice finish is you apply more mud than normal, and use ALOT of pressure to thin the corner back out but honestly its definitely kids sandbox shovel now. lol
The old plasters call it a wing tool. They are designed to be used in plaster work where the edge line gets rubbed out when the plaster starts to turn and ready to be floated and rubbed out.
there not the ones what plasterers use are called twitchers...that one in the video is a drywall angle trowel but loads of plasterers use them when they are skimming to walls were the angle meet..a wet angle.
@@nom843, very true. I have always used a "twitcher", a far better tool, leaves a far better finish too. Also, with plastering, there's NO sanding down like there is with taping, so it has to be done right first time. A good plasterer will do horizontal/vertical "wet corner returns" with a twitcher, that need NO sanding. Plastering and Taping are totally different jobs by the way,, no comparrison.
Agreed, your videos are very informative. I am a new dry wall DIY(er) and I laughed at your yeah thats not bad 😄 comment to an average person. But I keep learning through your videos and I appreciate you.
You should see me on that corner tool. It definitely took abit of time to get good at it but once you are it really is beneficial. Only need to go over it once and only feather edges once at the end and when I go over it I put my hawk down somewhere or between my legs if I dont need to walk and use my other hand to apply the right pressure to get a more smoothly even finish, helps to control the angle and amount being applied I the corner.
I have depth perception problems because I have poor vision in one eye. So I've used a corner trowel , but I do it a little different. I put a bead of mud right in the corner so that it covers no more than an inch on either side of the corner. Then I press the corner trowel into it and force it into a nice sharp corner line . This eliminates having to taper any edges. I let the mud set up...and then I do each side with a 4 inch knife going right from the corner and tapering it to the outside edge. It works for me...even though it is not as fast.
If you get the angle right on them it's great, my dad said for years it was a schmuck tool until his cousin showed him how to use it properly and he showed me and yeah it really does save a lot of time but only if it's used like within certain accuracy
I've used OPS a few times as well. I found I had better control and a better feel for the
mud if my index finger was as forward as I could get it, applying pressure to the blade.
That said it spends more time on the shelf next to my outside-corner plank shim than
on a job site. Quality video! Thanks.
I have a corner trowel and struggled with it. It wasn’t until I learned from your video or others that the best way is to do one side at a time, after pre-filling, and use the proper mud.
I use this tool and for me it's good because I'm not professional and it helps me making corner
I only use my corner trowel for the corner, I still use my 4" to feather the edges and squaring up 3 way corners.
You need to use a split corner trowel. With that you use a 3" to apply it and a flexible 6" to wipe it. Yes the inside corner needs a touch up when sanding. A split corner trowel is way way better once you know what you are doing.
Well, I am a big fan of the corner trowel. I thin the mud, use a fabric roller to apply a generous amount of mud. Press the trowel flat on the join first pass then angle the blade away from the wall the feather in your second pass. Reapeat process and finish with a wet sand. Done.
Love to see that I am not the only taper in Canada that walks a pail instead of stilts
easier without the lid on it... SC, USA
I have one of these corner tools and I'm not a pro. It does work well with a technique and as long as the mud don't spread out too much, it'll feather the edges nicely too. It is not built with a 90 deg shape but something more so you can't get too tight in the corners. This leaves a thick layer in the corner to provide adequate coverage of the tape. As indicated in this video, if too thick in the corner, sometimes the mud will dry with a fine crack along it and that's the only downside. I just fix that with a final pass of mud packed into the corner.
Thank you , I never had any good job from the corner trowel. I thought it was me.these videos age great, I have
A lot of experience doing this but I always pick up some helpful tips.
I have just finished a bathroom and kitchen using the wing trowel hears what I found out, first check the angle of the wings, should be more than 90 deg to leave some in the bottom of the joint. Second place your index finger on the bottom of the V to help balance each wing. Third keep a low angle to not scrape to much out of the joint. Then level and feather top and bottom. Also I apply compound 6 to 8 inches on either side of the joint.
i use corner trowels. i find i have to apply a little more pressure on the back center of the blade with a finger closer to the point to get a better corner line without much mud. just pushing mostly on handle i notice leaves too much mud. but it is all about what u are used to and practice with. like i would rather use a trowel than a 12' knife any day.
bri bart pressure on the center and pressure on the wings. You almost gotta make your hand look like a frogs toes but it’s by far the best tool out there
Both are good..I like both knives and trowels. I want more practice with corner trowel. If you practice like crazy with something difficult. You either give up, or stop being crappy at it. You'll never remain bad at something you've done a hundred time if your truly learning and trying your best.
1) A corner trowel follows the planes of the drywall panels (assuming they are perfectly flat), instead of the bumps on the joint tape. The local accumulations of joint compound are the results of smoothing the imperfections created by the joint tape.
2) Shaping inside corners with a knife has two problems:
2a) Working on one side, you inevitably leave some amount of the joint compound on the opposite side, which "bleeds" there and creates bumps on that plane, which dramatically interfere with the second part of the job.
2b) I found that pressing the knife into an inner corner inevitably results in the sharp 90-degree angle of the steel blade (between the bottom and the side of the knife) ripping the paper joint tape, sometimes all the way through, thus eliminating the entire purpose of using the joint tape.
you've saved me thousands of dollars on my DIY projects - many thanks !
Of course they work. And they are spectacular.
Joe Wellin Dowd great reference!
Ha ha ha, I always wondered about my corner trowel. I bought one 25 years ago, used it a couple of times, and had to sand way more after I was done! I assumed I wasn't doing it right. Single blade, one side at a time, is easier, as you say!
I like what you did there with the pot lights
I love my corner trowel. I use it along with a 12 inch knife
Richard Miller
I do everything with a 5” knife and a 12”
Never use the 8” or a hokey corner knife.
Same here, corner trowel with 5” to feather out since the corners load up more. Seams I use 5”, then 10”, final 12 or 14 depending on butt or seam type. Just bought a 24” skimmer for crooked old house flips, I’m anxious to try it out.
I use it to bed the corner tape and to put an initial skim coat to protect the crease of the tape.
It's a useful tool for some. I'm not trying to be the best at finishing drywall. It's not a pissing contest for me who can get the flattest walls, tightest corners. You have some great tricks I haven't seen before, but you get up on your high horse a bit for someone making videos for doityourselfers or non professional workers
When I saw the corner trowel on the shelf, years ago, I thought, "Yes! Brilliant!", and immediately bought it. Used it once, threw it in the toolbox. It leaves a rounded inside corner, sloppy edges, waste of time. I don't know why I even keep it.
was expensive XD isn't it actually a multifinish (i think its a trademark) tool? that UK type of mudding style?
You just don’t know how to use it mate
@@tyronebiggums4651 i guess so will give it another try with setting mud. Just practice with it.
A 4"x5" corner trowel works fine to embed Perfect 90 composite tapes and paper tapes.
You really need to practice the angle, how you hold the trowel and the amount of pressure during the embedding and wipe out phase. I always follow up with a knife to feather edges.
I do second coats with a knife. Cheap corner trowels 90 degree angle bends can be rounded, not allowing a clean cut line on second and additional coats.
I find the Marshalltown's 23D 4x5 are made with a nice sharp edge. Not too sharp to cut the paper, but leaves a nice clean defined line in the corner.
"My plank shim" hahah loved that
I love watching your videos, they sure have helped me a lot. I always get a good laugh out of the way you say things. Keep up the good work and the videos!
You are awesome and I love the humor… I learn a lot from your Vids
those corner trowels are great for scooping the mud out of the bucket!
Interesting, I'm very inexperienced @ drywall, I tried that tool a few years ago only the first and only drywall I did until this year. I ditched it at the first attempt thinking it must be a gimmick. never entertained me to even try it again. I have just completed my first corners since and lo! I used the 4" knife, not quite the way and ease that you do it by a long shot but I got them done into very passable corners. I thought I'd better watch one or 2 u tubeers ( 2 beers is what it took to get the job done) Thanks for putting my mind to rest, I tried your method on my next corners, about 4 times as long as you took, but much, much better corners, a bit more sanding than yours of course, but not as much as my first ones did. Much obliged