Ok so I had both the xm5 and the momentum 4. I gotta say this: Sony will spoil you with the noise cancelation and those app features. However - and this is important - the momentum 4 is the winer here because the noise cancelation is just a touch weaker than the Sony's. That means that you will not hear any noise once your music is on. You will only hear some high pitch sounds when you're not playing music. And the cabin pressure thing is not there either. The sound quality in the momentums is on a pro level when compared to Sony's, cause the Sony's sound is... just playing music... and the momentums sound much like the instruments of the song were right there in front of you. You will notice that when you play live concerts or classical music.But also in the details eg in some progressive tracks. Trust me their sound is BIG and Sony's sound like a regular set of headphones compared to momentum's. And they are more comfy too, cause in my example Sony's earpads just touched my ears on the edges and it felt a lil bit like you were having that rubber cap on your head when you go swimming. The Sony's are objectively better in noise cancelling but when you try the momentums you will forget the Sony's. I tried these in a really old and loud, shaking train and the noise around me wasn't like completely gone but the ANC was good enough to make me not notice it at all. Sony's ARE better, but you don't need it. Plus the sound... Oh and regarding the issues. I haven't noticed any of those mentioned in the video. The reviewer here is probably using one of the first peaces. Right after launching the app there was an update with some fixes and they even included the 5 band EQ.
@@TheWolod I am literally torn between deciding either the Momentum 4 or XM5. Personally, noise cancelling is important but I would prioritise sound quality over it. Momentum 4's would suit me?
I am really leaning towards the M4s. Is it possible to disable the auto-on feature? It would just annoy me a lot if they turned on and paired in the case. Oh, and how are the touch controls after long term use? Do all of them work properly?
@@gneben2082 I bought the Sennheiser M4s 2 days ago and just returned them today. For some reason the brand new headphones creak when i turn my head or do sudden movements, which apparently is a common issue after doing some research online. I switched it for the XM5 and no issues so far, noise cancelling is phenomenal and sound quality is amazing. just my 2 cents.
I feel like the most important thing, by a long shot, is sound quality and the momentum 4’s win in that department. Therefore the momentum 4’s are the winner for me. You can throw in as many gimmicks as you want but if they don’t sound good, they aren’t worth the money.
I would say being comfortable wearing them is the most important. If you have amazing sound quality but after half an hour your head needs a rest then what's the point
Interestingly, I sold my XM4s a week ago and got the Momentum 4s. The M4's software issues are mostly fixed through software updates (Currently on version 2.19.12). I've travelled with the M4's in the case, flipped them upside down and to the side, and they didn't turn on. Seems like they adjusted the sensitivity. The wear sensors also work 100% now. They also always connect to my phone when they turn on now. One last thing about the M4s - they do have slightly more clamping force than the XM4s but the earcups are deeper and angled. When wearing the XM4s for longer than an hour or two, the earpads would compress enough that my ears would lightly rest on the inside drivers. However, the M4's earcups are deep enough that my ears never touch the drivers. They're actually quite similar to how the Bose QC45's earcups are internally, which I've tried in-store.
@@FrozenAXL they’re around 50-60 percent better IMO. They do everything better from soundstage, imaging, less bloated midbass but deep subbass, balanced mids and highs.
It seems most 'smart' features (e.g. wearing sensors, adaptive ANC, automatic power on) become problematic for many users. Companies being proud about them, and not allowing users to turn them off, doesn't help.
Sometimes simplicity is key and cost effective. I want sound quality and comfort first. Wireless, good battery life is nice. Everything else are selling point gimmicks.
i got the XM4 and momentum 4 Quality : the xm4 feel more premium than the momentum 4 Sound : i prefer the momentum 4 by far Noise Canceling : Xm4 Battery : Momentum 4, what else ? Call : Momentum 4 in overall, i like the momentum 4
What did you mean by quality? Like the build and feel of the product? Would you say the durability of the XM4 is better than Momentum 4, or does 'premium'-ness differ from the durability?
@@kalifvision I don't buy HEADPHONES to speak.. I buy them to listen... they could come with no microphones at a lower price and it'll be a better option.
@@RotaryPokemon First. ANC headphones needs several microphones for noise cancelling. Second. You may want them for both music and calls in the office, especially when home office became common. And you absolutely want wireless microphone which picks your voice better than voice of your colleagues. Third. Don't expect you want what people need better than then themselves. Open headphones without microphone and with audiojack (or usb and integrated dac/amplifier) are surely better for listening music at the same price, but for office environment, they are absolutely useless.
The mic in fact does work usb C, just saying. Sennheiser also makes a wireless usb adapter called the BTD600 that can be used to take advantage of aptx adaptive on devices that don't support it such as computers or game consoles. They are a do it all powerhouse.
@@McmeYTman Is modern AptX adaptive needed for better sound while using microphone? Cause I have 5 years old Sennheiser PXC550 having just AptX and sound quality is **awful** when some application requests microphone and headphones switch to headset mode. It does not matter if it's used via BT or USB, cause I think USB connection is used for tunneling bluetooth data. In theory, headphones can be used as USB soundcard, but they are not. And I'm sure someone complained about the same on other headphones.
So i bought the Sennheiser's , and I can tell they are fucking great , I have tried the xm5 and yes the anc is slightly better but the momentum kills it on the sound department. Also as I have read varied reviews 2 problems that people were saying are now fixed . 1) The sound imbalance is not there i checked them thoroughly. 2) The random turning on is fixed for the most part. A big thanks to the people who were recommending it in the comments. ✌️
I had the XM3s and loved them. I really hated to have to sell them a year ago. But from the sound of things I think I'm going to go for the Momentum 4s when I get a replacement for them later this year. Their quirks won't really bother me that much, and by far the most important things to me are ANC and sound quality.
i also have the XM3s and honestly no complaints but one... as a person with long hair they're a nightmare because of the metallic bands. They wrap around my hair like no tomorrow, so the XM4s look promising.
@@sofialee2471 The XM4 does really well, and from a sound quality standpoint, the XM4 is a nice step up when using noise cancelling. The XM3 gets a bit muddy in the lows during NC use. Did you end up with XM4's?
Thank you for the ANC analysis, often numbers alone are not the best indicator for comparing that kind of performance. I'm a sucker for sound quality, so the Sennheiser M4s were my first choice. The software issues have been resolved as in firmware 2.9.12. My big head has not issue with them, and now I'm convinced that they outperform Sony's XMxs where I care, sound quality and battery life.
I just added the XM4s to my arsenal of 12 over the ear headphones and I'm not disappointed at all. I love all the little differences these headphones have, so it's been a fun hobby to get into. I agree, my Sennheiser M4s are a pure joy to listen to. However, the ladt two cans i bought, these XM4s and Bose QC45 are really great sets. Excellent video, great content.
Which would say sound BETTER! Is the difference in sound between the XM4s and M4s a major difference to sway your buying option in one way or the other? I have heard the M4s produce great bass but start sounding distorted at higher volume compared to the XM4s. I've also heard with an adjuatee EQ the XM4s can match the M4s highs and clarity without compromising the good bass.. what's your take? I'm torn between the 2.
Sennheiser also has longer warranty (2 years) than sony (1 year). I had a recent ANC malfunction in my 1000xm4 (high pitched nose, see numerous reddit discussions) after using it for 14 months and sadly it is no longer covered by warranty.
I have the XM3 the Momentum 2, 3 and 4 wireless and I don't understand how people can say the ANC on the Momentum 4s is practically or very near on par with the Sony. It's just not true. The ANC on the M4 is a bit better than on the M3, which have very bad ANC, but Sony's is way better, not even close. The battery life is the best thing about the M4. I also can't agree with the comfortabilty everyone says about the M4. I think the XM3 are much more comfortable. I even think the M3 are slightly more comfortable than the M4. I have about 10 negative points with the M4 compared to maybe 1 or 2 good points and I'm a Sennheiser fan. I'm very disappointed with the new M4. The build quality is a joke also. The hinges creak like I've never heard from a new headphone whenever slightly moving the head and the sound just goes distant when slightly pushing on the outer side and then releasing. Imo they're worth no more than 50 bucks.
It's always the downside of these static tests. The roadside test and coffee test is just a generic Internet sound. In real life, Sony performs very very good. Real life is walking through a dynamic city, going into tunnels, sitting in trains, working at the office and eating lunch or somewhere. All together, the Sony are really good. I can't imagine anything else being much better or similar.
Absolutely amazing. While wearing my M5 through my phone while watching the video through my desktop, I found myself shutting off my desktop to go to sleep. I couldn't hear what you were saying which is exactly what any good programmer is looking for. They totally blew away the Bose 35 that my wife bought me last year but came in close to my M3s that I keep at the office. Maybe, I am now too tired to think about it, but I did get a problem solved even though my wife, mother-in-law, and sister-in-law are downstairs. Not that I was aware of that due to my new M5s. None of the points that you were looking at but all of the points that any good programmer working in a typical office are looking for. Key points it makes your co-workers disappear audibility.
That's why I've been in the audio industry... my entire life! It is 100% subjective! What is great for you... is a nongo for someone else. That's why we have so many choices. Most important... everybody's hearing is different. There is simply... no best of anything! It's simply what sounds, looks, and works the best.... for you!!! Not anybody else! Nice vid!
I never travel on airplanes nor do I need to stay focused in crowded areas. I just want headphones for music. Momentum 4 suits me better but since the import tax increase in Malaysia, sony headphones are just cheaper than Sennheiser here.
I got my sony xm3s over 3 years ago. I have a small head and its hard to find headphones that fit good over the ear. I have worn the xm3's for 10 hours at a time and honestly forgot I had them on. For my head shape they are so comfortable. Clamp force is perfect. Speaking to build quality I have spilled stuff on them, stepped on them, detailed cars in 100 degree heat wearing these during the summer seasons, done yard work and I use them for work. They are still ticking. I have been hard on them and they have held up great. I got a gift and figured I will give th xm5's a shot. I actually like the design of the 3's and 4's over the new ones. I don't give care there is a lot of plastic they are built like f*kin tanks. If the 5's don't blow me away I'll send back for a set of sony 4's. I will stay with sony due to build quality and comfort. They have blown me away in that dept.
I have the XM4s and am gonna be buying the XM5s because the XM4s create a pressure spot on the top of my head and they are unusable after an hour. I think head shape is a big factor. The XM5s exert no pressure on the top of my head. So yeah, try before you buy!
I actually bought XM4 and I was in for major disappointment. After two weeks I called Sony and they said my color just went out of stock and to wait till the next year (!). Then they didn't want to send me different color because 'it's different item' (we're talking exact same model and price just different color) so I had to cancel order to order different color. Cancellation process took them few days to complete (that's before they started processing a refund). After I finally got the XM4 it turned out they're faulty. Left noise cancelling mic was not working so it was painful to wear them with the noises it produced. Online support somehow tried to tell me it's normal/it's my fault and if I want them to look at it I'd have to pay!. I went to the physical store and the guy tested it and told me that indeed it's faulty and to get a replacement from online as I bought it online. So I asked for replacement or refund. They asked me 'so which one you want'. I said: 'if you have a working model available this year I'll take it'. They said: 'oh this is popular fault and most likely the replacement will also have it (!) so we will just organise a refund'. Still waiting for that refund but I was shocked how they suddenly casually admitted that most of their stock is faulty so there is no point of even replacing it. Anyway my last time with Sony.
Hello, just discovered this video and I have to say it the best review I've seen/heard for the xm4 vs xm5 which is exactly what I was looking for. You went to into every flaw I could be concerned with along with highlighting the positives. Great job overall (I never leave comments on social media, that's how great I think your work is on this video)
I kept on comparing the xm4 and 5s and theM4 with video reviews and written reviews. I got more confused. I remembered when I bought my surround sound system I just listened to plenty of speakers in stores. I decided to do the same thing now. I bought the M4s! Y? I use them in my home with my iPhone and surround sound. No traveling no outside noise. Queens what they R awesome. On sale Labor Day for $264
I've watched many of your videos, but this really made me appreciate how you look at all the details and give a very balanced and considered view. Thanks.
so what i can conclude is the XM5 is basically just a better looking XM4, bcs look wise, most ppl including me, prefer that clean look, the similar vibe to Bose 700, that friction based headband actually look sleeker, but besides that it's not really better than the now much cheaper XM4
If money is a concern the xm4 is a better buy from my experience with both I do much prefer the xm5 overall I feel it’s definitely an improvement but the choice is up to you
Even though I prefer the xm4, the mic on the xm4 is so bad that I don't have any choice and have to buy xm5. Obviously I need them to attend meeting and do calls.
Thanks for the comprehensive review! I owned XM5 for a while, so while I'm pretty satisfied with it, I feel that the sound quality could be much better for the price tag. I'm eyeing future Senny headphone in the future for the better sound quality in general
picked these up a few weeks back, they sound the best, i prefer the feel and look of the sony..paring with the momentum’s to the tv ipad i’ve had issues where there is no sound, had to turn the device of and on to work..either way they both are great headphones and cost the same price in australia, happy with the purchase
Personally, the biggest issue I've had with Sony XM4's is the build quality. 1 year after purchase, the ANC on right-side failed, repaired under warranty. 2 years after purchase, the right-side ANC failed again but I was able to somehow fix it by opening the earcup and fiddling with the feedback mic. 2.5 years after purchase, ANC on left-side failed and cannot seem to fix it. So, that's 2.5 years of use from 350€ headphones....
XM5 are worth the extra buck over the XM4s if you’re gonna use them often for phone calls/teams meeting/zooms etc. They double up as a fantastic work headset if you’re job involves using one.
If it's for that kind of use. not sure I'd ever see an over-ear as the option. True wireless in-ears tend to be designed for this. Both Sony's and Apple's offerings are great for this, with Apple being a bit ahead.
@@AB-80X in-ears simply can´t preventthe person you´re talking to from listening where you are and all. Both the XM5s and the Bose 700 have no rivals as headsets
@@xavierpanohaya2647 "in-ears simply can´t preventthe person you´re talking to from listening where you are and all." What does that mean? I own both the Apple and Sony In-ears, and I also have the XM4 and XM5 overears. If you're seriously suggesting that either of those will be superior to the Airpod Pro 2's in terms of not picking up background noise that the other end is hearing, I think you are simply not talking out of experience. My Airpods are FAR superior to any of my Sony products when it comes to this. When I use my Sony overears I have to be a lot more mindful about what goes on around me, compared to what is needed for the Airpods.
@@xavierpanohaya2647 No, and I did not say I had good ANC. In my actual personal experience, the other end of the line have far superior ANC with my Airpods than they do if I'm using my XM's.
The user experience bit has been a challenge with Mometums for sometime now. When they work well they create magic but there are just too many ifs and buts with them. In the war between 'tech' bros and 'sound' companies, the tech guys are winning on the back of overall better experience. The sound guys really need to level up to win this.
Came off the back of using the XM3 and had the choice to upgrade to the XM5 or try something new. I opted for the Momentum 4 . I can't judge between the XM5 and the Momentum 4 , but I can tell you that the 4 is amazing. I like Sony products and have a tendency to stick with them. Maybe age or just curiosity is taking over, but unless you venture once or twice to other pastures you could be missing a good opportunity. I guess once these momentum 4's give up I'll probably take another look a what Sony has to offer. I haven't got one grumble with the 4's so far.
Quick one here: on the initial parts of the video you mentioned that the Sannheisers would automatically connect to your device once removed from their case. But later on you raise a con that compared to the Sonys, the Sannheisers had an issue reconnecting to your device automatically. How do you draw the line on that?
Thank you for all the information but I don’t think Sony put enough upgrades into the xm5’s therefore I will stick with my xm4’s until there next edition. I enjoy your reviews they are always very informative and detailed. 😊
Labor Day sale after a lot of comparisons bought the M4s. I'm not traveling, not using them outside unless it's on my deck. Using them for movies and music, mostly movies(surrounded sound)they r awesome. Action scenes are incredible dialogue clear sound tracks insane. Paid $264 I'm very very happy.
Xm5 is the best for everyday users. I was on the highway in the back with the window open on a windy day and my sister thought I was talking to her in a my condo. The microphones are levels above the momentum 4 and xm4. I noticed with the momentum 4s that you literally have to take the headphones off to use your phone to talk because the sound quality is horrendous and the same goes for the xm4. If your looking for better sound and slightly less bass with better noise cancellation and 8 mic’s go for the Xm5’s they are literally perfect
Frequent travelers don’t use the case. We throw it in our bag for easier access. You can always see when it’s someone who don’t travel much fiddles with the headphone case.
First I ordered the Bose QC Ultra which I loved in terms of comfort and feel, but was disappointed that the sound didn't seem as open, and the bass was weak. The EQ setting on the app does little to nothing. Highly disappointing. So I ordered the M4s to compare. Honestly, the M4s sound was superior. The bass was really nice. But on both of them the volume doesn't go as loud as I desire. Unfortunately I returned to M4s ONLY because the clamping pressure on my ears were too much. They didn't feel as comfortable as the QC Ultra. I was feeling too much tension in my head while wearing them. So now I just ordered the XM4s. I tried them on at Best Buy and they were very comfortable, comparable to the QC Ultra. Now, its a matter of sound quality, openess and bass. This is my first time purchasing a set of solid headphones, and lawd knows I didn't think it would be this stressful. Lol
I’m getting the Xm4’s for my birthday this year. I am pretty excited to hear how good the bass sounds including the noice canceling. It will be my second most expensive set of headphones. Sony is one of my favorite brands which is why I chose the Xm4’s in particular. I’m looking forward to try them out
@@zonnebloemsummer6435 I don’t have them yet but I’ll update you on the bass when I finally try the headphones on. My birthday isn’t for a couple months so I’ll be waiting for awhile. I’m still excited about getting them because it’s gonna be the best pair of headphones I’ll ever own. just in case I forget to update you on the headphones just reply to this comment and I’ll be sure to respond back. my birthday is on August 9th to be exact so I have about 5 months until I get them
Una de las mejores reseñas que he visto sobre estos productos. No hay nada igual en mi idioma. Si agregas subtítulos en español a tus videos, este canal crecerá exponencialmente.
@@jesusj69 he probado todos los del video y son lugar a dudas, la mejor opción es el momentum 4. No sólo tiene la mejor calidad de sonido, sino también un precio bastante ajustado respecto a su competencia.
I noticed that everyone is complaining about sound quality of XM4 and confirm that M4 are much better in that department. Are you using LDAC or you are apple AAC user ? Cause my opinion is a way different.
Great review. And made me buy the Sennheisers M4. But one question, how can you review the ANC and sound quality when you’re wearing a cap underneath the pads? You loose a lot of impact and ANC efficiency when you have a small gap between the pads and your head.
After watching many reviews including this one I went for momentum 4 headphones, no regrets at all Sound quality is the best and that's the only reason I bought Few problems- bluetooth gets disconnected frequently Right ear cup has all controls but all of a sudden touch controls don't operate Have to take them off and put over again it works
@@GYMCADDY I know you used to love the sr30bt. How about trying the new Ath m20xbt? I returned my Sony xm5 bc I don't need anc. I put some brainwavz pads and these are amazing 😍. I got them for $70 discount on Amazon I think they are $79 now. I'd like to know what you think. ✌️
Many tests say that the XM4's noise cancelling is much better in the low frequencies, is this true or not? Also, how much of a problem is it that the M4 anc cannot be switched off? This is not mentioned
What any influencer FORGET to mention about this model is the FIRMWARE UNSTABILITY...which is very annoyng - smart pause and head detection is terible...wont detect when i remove my headsets, only if i put them on my neck....also not start/pause automatically - the headset also suddenly shutdown even if is streaming....randomly - sound is good but not as hood as expected and the app even if usefull, could break the sound if you dont know more about sound quality. I am a bit dissapointed but is still acceptable to keep them because of sound and battery.
Interesting review. Just goes to show how individual a preference of a housesound is. I cannot get along with the Momentum 4, but the XM4 suits me well. In general, the Sennheiser housesound has never been for me, being it HD600's, HD650's, or HD800s'.But Beyer, Sony, Ultrasone, Shure, AT and others work well. Not sure how Sennheiser does it, but their sound is simply sit too far in the drivers - same issue with AKG. Out of all my collection, my XM4's are definitely my go-to over-ear wireless, especially because wireless is just not where you go for high end audiophile sound - so the sound needs to be fun, lively and easy to listen to.
Do you experience with the Sony Xm4's that on a flight, during take off, the wheels rolling cause alot a crackling and static when ANC is on until u get up in the air? And do the Momentum 4 and XM5'S have this issue?
Last months i stow my b and w px7 in to my bag instead of my " cheap" jbl free in my pocket. Because i beed to travel by bus instead of a "quiet" train . And the sennheiser case isn't that much smaller or bigger than the px7s case and you never gona manage to lay flat the headphones in your normal size daily base use bag. So well done Sennheiser 👏
Which headphones would you recommend I get for my iPhone 14 Pro? It has Bluetooth 5.3 and I was wondering how Sony’s new cans would get on with it, as those are Bluetooth 5.2. However, of the few pairs of wireless earphones I’ve used, including the wireless adaptor my Dad has for his Dr. Dres, there’s always about a second, maybe less, of delay! For latency tests, I plan to use a drumming app.
Для айфон😂😂 Точно не что то из дорогого,потому что в айфоне нет хороших кодеков, которые оправдали бы высокую стоимость,поищите что-то в районе 150-200 долларов с поддержкой кодека ААС и бед не знайте
Fantastic review, thank you. I've made my decision to get the Momentum 4s based off your analysis, thanks so much specifically for mentioning long term comfort! I have a big head and big ears, stuff sucks with most headphones.
Bought the special edition momentum 4 (copper) recently. i have not encountered any "bugs" that you have mentioned. I don't own either the xm4 or xm5 so i cant directly compare to it. As mentioned the comfort is not the best for me either but its not like its unbearable. But they do sound good and battery life is amazing. Just those 2 reasons are y i preferred these. I did have audio cut in and out issue on Spotify but no other apps had any issues like UA-cam so maybe a problem of Spotify. Also rarely there are some sound artifacts here and there like a small popping or jittery/dostorty sound that lasts for an instant, i don't know that normal or not for wireless headphones. I wasn't amassed by the anc, its just okay imo and i don't really care about anc in the first place, i wish i could turn it off.
I tested all these headphone and yes the Momentum 4’s sound the best and good enough ANC but the price is steep, the Sony XM5 have the best ANC but are too bulky with a thin headband and the case is awful and a $400 price tag, I would just buy the XM4 which can be had on sale early Black Friday deal for $228 the lowest price I’ve seen for these and a no brainer at that price point.
Great video, I’ve had XM4 since their release for commuting and work and am considering upgrading. One feature that was not mentioned, and is the reason I wouldn’t buy Sony headphones again, is a physical or touch activated mic mute button, which the Momentum 4 does have and for work use is a must seeing as wireless headphone that require me to be at my computer to toggle the mic mute is nothing but an invisible tether.
late 2024, I have no used my new momentum 4 for 2 weeks and the sound quality is worth it. I've used mainy sony for wirelss over the years, much becasue of their ANC but now this SM4 is good enough and sound is not far from my Sennheiser 599. Also Momentum 4 with a good wire 2,5 - 3,5 mm cable they sound even better, a big thing for me since they can be used when dead of battery. =)
Winners of Each Category (Momentum 4 VS XM4): Case/Foldable- XM4 (Case is Smaller, and is Foldable) Design/Build Quality- Tie Fit- XM4 (Softer Headband, Less Cabin Pressure, Lighter Weight, Stays Cooler for Longer) Tech Specs- Momentum 4 (60 Hours VS 30 Hours with ANC On) Sound- Momentum 4 (Better Instrument Separation, and Bass is more Dynamic, Better Customization) Media Controls- Tie ANC- Momentum 4 (Better Noise Reduction, Less Cabin Pressure) Ambient Mode- Tie Mic Test- Momentum 4 Verdict- 21:46
I wear glasses and am strongly leaning towards getting the M4s, but im concerned about the clamping force. Anyone knows if they get painful after awhile?
I just bought the M4. Sound is very objective so what might sound good to me might not sound good to others. I’m an aspiring music composer and write music for orchestra through digital audio interface. I also listen to lots of music and genres everyday. I tried numerous headphones and I have to say that M4 was an absolute excitement to hear. Clarity and instrument separation and the clear bass for it’s price is remarkable. Not to make this long and answer your question. I kind of have a big head 😂 and I also wear glasses but with all that I’m comfortable with the M4s. I believe that the updates have fixed a lot of system issues as well because after 2 weeks of ownership now I haven’t had the issues that I’ve had seen on many reviews. The only thing that bugs me but I’d totally let it pass because of the great sound is just by a small readjustment it pauses my music. Sorry for the long reply. All the best 🙏
@@fardindaneshmand6704hi! I found your comment was helpful and was wondering if you had an update for how comfortable they are for extended periods of time Thanks!!
After checking your video with Momentum 4 vs the BOSSES, this is also a great video !!! I only like to remind - the autopower issue of the Momentum4 - nothing like it on my pair from summer 2023. The comfort is also on the BETTER side here. I have the XM4, but the sound of the Sennheiser works better for my ears.
Does anyone know if the auto-on feature of the M4s has been fixed, or whether it is possible to turn it off in the app? And how are the touch controls after long term use? Thanks!
Guys, if you don't care much about a perfect ANC, don't search any more reviews! Momentum 4 are by far a class apart in comfort and sound quality! Just by far the best value purchase in my life time!
I bought momentum 4's 3 days ago, before that I owned the last 3 model for a long time, however, I like 4's much better in terms of comfort, but the sound is more difficult to say, even with the equalizer adjusted I can not say that they sound better than the last model, not even better, but a little worse, but the comfort is just another level, very soft and light, I also did not like the fact that they are made of flimsy plastic, and I think that after a while it can break.
i just came back from the store where i tested those three. I must say the comfort is the most important for me, so Sennheiser lost right away (haven't even started listening to music on them because I knew there is no point). XM4 was the winner for me as I didn't see much difference with XM5. I even thought maybe XM5 are even slightly less comfy and less bass and of course more expensive so XM4 all the way. The only other model in the store that I liked was Bose QuietComfort 45. It's certainly lives up to the name but since they were far from each other and I played different songs on them I can't really compare audio quality on them. About the same price as XM4 so we will see on Cyber Monday what's gonna happen with those. My current headphones are Bose though and I can feel after 30 min how uncomfortable they can get. So I'm leaning toward Sony a bit.
I actually bought XM4 and I was in for major disappointment. After two weeks I called Sony and they said my color just went out of stock and to wait till the next year (!). Then they didn't want to send me different color because 'it's different item' (we're talking exact same model and price just different color) so I had to cancel order to order different color. Cancellation process took them few days to complete (that's before they started processing a refund). After I finally got the XM4 it turned out they're faulty. Left noise cancelling mic was not working so it was painful to wear them with the noises it produced. Online support somehow tried to tell me it's normal/it's my fault. I went to the physical store and the guy tested it and told me that indeed it's faulty and to get a replacement from online as I bought it online. So I asked for replacement or refund. They asked me 'so which one you want'. I said: 'if you have a working model available this year I'll take it'. They said: 'oh this is popular fault and most likely the replacement will also have it (!) so we will just organise a refund'. Still waiting for that refund but I was shocked how they suddenly casually admitted that most of their stock is faulty so there is no point of even replacing it. Anyway my last time with Sony.
It annoys me how good these all could be if these companies stopped pushing this smart tech bullshit like always on battery or adaptive anc. Give us more personal control, physical buttons and normal headbands. Focus on the sound quality now, ANC is already so good you really don't need complete silence with no music playing, 99% of the time you will have music playing and you don't hear anything anyway. I have IEM's that block out airplane level noise perfectly fine at 30% volume so lets focus on the sound quality and design again. These look awful, those headbands are cheap and the slide to adjust is every OCD persons nightmare. Give us solid click to adjust levels with numbers on steel bands. If sennheiser even just took their HD600 line of headphones and made a wireless version they'd sell out so fast.
Just purchased the momentum 4...while I find the sound quality is pretty amazing for wireless headphones but just like a pair of wireless headphones I tried from sennheiser long time ago...the sound level is still low...even at max its not very loud.
I would still sat XM5 is overpriced for the amount of improvements they 'intoduced' after XM4. Momentum is good if they fit your head and you feel comfy in them I guess. Otherwise you might suffer in the long run. Also seem too expensive comparing to Sony.
Which one has bigger inner earpad size? Just bought M4 and honestly it's too small for my ears, headphones like sennheiser hd380 pro or game zero fit best, unfortuneatly i can't find specs about earpad size for both m4 and xm5
I wonder if my M4 unit is faulty... there's no passive sound coming through from my phone (does with other headphones powered off). Usb-c wired mode sounds terrible and i need to connect the wire, power off the M4 then back on for it to work properly. My separate Poweramp EQ presets cause distortion with relatively moderate adjustments. Plus its so glitchy in general. Hopefully I can find a store to test another pair.
I have small ears and th eSony XM3 earcups are too close and the headband starts to get uncomfortable after a while. Comfort and controls are king for me. And comfort sounds the best on the XM4.
Is there a good pair of headphones that has the double tap to pause music and turn on transparency mode, has sound quality of the momentum 4s but has the anc of the mx5s?? And of course around the ears ear cups and comfortability and when putting them away in the case, they fold??
Hii iam currently very confused between sony xm4, xm5 and sennheiser momentum 4 i want to buy an all rounder headphones one which i can use on my ps5, ioad pro and phone. I mostly play games like rdr 2 so their is no issue of playing with mic and i heard sound is better on momentums but iam really very confused because i want to buy headphones for a long run so any suggestions pls? Btw currently sony xm4s are the cheapest and xm5 and sennheiser momentum 4s are on same price after discount durability and comfort is also very important for
10:10 now I'm curious to know... which are the best wireless sounding headphonesa out there? Cuz I really thouht it was a dead fight between Sennheiser and Sony atp.
heyy, in this case from my understanding, it reallyy is a dead fight between Sennheiser and Sony in the Noise-Cancelling Headphones category. What he means is that if we only consider the sound quality of Sony as a headphone in general, there are better ones!:) And best headphones, many a time is subjective. depends on the type of music u listen tp=, or if ure watching shows on it. and then it depends on ur budget, and the device u r playing it on. from what i know, sonhy is the BEST all-rounder! to me, im not the biggest fan of its sound because it sounds a little to warm. I prefer the sound of pxc550 ii as it is more neutral and i like the sound stage of it (note that here, im still comparing between 2 ANC headphones specifically). Hope this helps!
Hello Gym Caddy , For the last several months I tried dozens of true wireless earbuds but I finally gave up because none couldn't fit me ear. The last pair I owned was the sennheiser mtw3 and I loved the sound and bass. To me bass is very important as well as the quality of the sound. So I'm going back to the Headphones market , I already have the sony xb-900 that I bought 3 years ago. Now that we are in 2023 do you recommend upgrading to a new pair with better bass and clarity for around 200-300$ or you think nothing can beat the sony xb-900 at that price point ? Love your channel ! Thanks!
after thus video i am going to buy sony xm5 because of auto sift ambient mode when i am taking to someone and dual pairing option also good noise cancelling price is too high case is bulky easy to get dirty if you even purchase black colour
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Went from the Momentum 3, to the XM5 and love it
Ok so I had both the xm5 and the momentum 4. I gotta say this: Sony will spoil you with the noise cancelation and those app features. However - and this is important - the momentum 4 is the winer here because the noise cancelation is just a touch weaker than the Sony's. That means that you will not hear any noise once your music is on. You will only hear some high pitch sounds when you're not playing music. And the cabin pressure thing is not there either. The sound quality in the momentums is on a pro level when compared to Sony's, cause the Sony's sound is... just playing music... and the momentums sound much like the instruments of the song were right there in front of you. You will notice that when you play live concerts or classical music.But also in the details eg in some progressive tracks. Trust me their sound is BIG and Sony's sound like a regular set of headphones compared to momentum's. And they are more comfy too, cause in my example Sony's earpads just touched my ears on the edges and it felt a lil bit like you were having that rubber cap on your head when you go swimming. The Sony's are objectively better in noise cancelling but when you try the momentums you will forget the Sony's. I tried these in a really old and loud, shaking train and the noise around me wasn't like completely gone but the ANC was good enough to make me not notice it at all. Sony's ARE better, but you don't need it. Plus the sound... Oh and regarding the issues. I haven't noticed any of those mentioned in the video. The reviewer here is probably using one of the first peaces. Right after launching the app there was an update with some fixes and they even included the 5 band EQ.
Thanks for sharing your experience. You convinced me to get the Momentum 4
@@alejandraespinoza9581 wow! Let me know how you like them!
@@TheWolod I am literally torn between deciding either the Momentum 4 or XM5. Personally, noise cancelling is important but I would prioritise sound quality over it. Momentum 4's would suit me?
I am really leaning towards the M4s. Is it possible to disable the auto-on feature? It would just annoy me a lot if they turned on and paired in the case.
Oh, and how are the touch controls after long term use? Do all of them work properly?
@@gneben2082 I bought the Sennheiser M4s 2 days ago and just returned them today. For some reason the brand new headphones creak when i turn my head or do sudden movements, which apparently is a common issue after doing some research online. I switched it for the XM5 and no issues so far, noise cancelling is phenomenal and sound quality is amazing. just my 2 cents.
I feel like the most important thing, by a long shot, is sound quality and the momentum 4’s win in that department. Therefore the momentum 4’s are the winner for me. You can throw in as many gimmicks as you want but if they don’t sound good, they aren’t worth the money.
I would say being comfortable wearing them is the most important. If you have amazing sound quality but after half an hour your head needs a rest then what's the point
@@pinang1 That's a fair point.
@@pinang1 u can always stretch them out a bit correct?
@@izaigacet9437 not really
How much better? Sony XM3 are my first (and only) flagship, and they didn't sound that much better than you mid to low range.
Interestingly, I sold my XM4s a week ago and got the Momentum 4s. The M4's software issues are mostly fixed through software updates (Currently on version 2.19.12). I've travelled with the M4's in the case, flipped them upside down and to the side, and they didn't turn on. Seems like they adjusted the sensitivity. The wear sensors also work 100% now. They also always connect to my phone when they turn on now.
One last thing about the M4s - they do have slightly more clamping force than the XM4s but the earcups are deeper and angled. When wearing the XM4s for longer than an hour or two, the earpads would compress enough that my ears would lightly rest on the inside drivers. However, the M4's earcups are deep enough that my ears never touch the drivers. They're actually quite similar to how the Bose QC45's earcups are internally, which I've tried in-store.
Thanks Miguel, you have helped me choose. I’m getting the Momentum 4 🙏🏽
I have XM3, and I have to ask - how much better is the sound quality on the M4?
@@FrozenAXL they’re around 50-60 percent better IMO. They do everything better from soundstage, imaging, less bloated midbass but deep subbass, balanced mids and highs.
@Miguel Yusay
Thanks, that sounds a lot better. I really was kinda disappointed with the XM3, I expected a major sound improvement from mid/low range
How's the ANC quality of the M4 vs the XM4?
It seems most 'smart' features (e.g. wearing sensors, adaptive ANC, automatic power on) become problematic for many users. Companies being proud about them, and not allowing users to turn them off, doesn't help.
Sometimes simplicity is key and cost effective. I want sound quality and comfort first. Wireless, good battery life is nice. Everything else are selling point gimmicks.
Most of that you can turn off on the sonys
i got the XM4 and momentum 4
Quality : the xm4 feel more premium than the momentum 4
Sound : i prefer the momentum 4 by far
Noise Canceling : Xm4
Battery : Momentum 4, what else ?
Call : Momentum 4
in overall, i like the momentum 4
What did you mean by quality? Like the build and feel of the product? Would you say the durability of the XM4 is better than Momentum 4, or does 'premium'-ness differ from the durability?
As of recently - Same comparison for me. I haven't really tested call quality. I found the quality to be the same. I kept M4 as sounded better.
The fact that you can play music through usbc with momentum 4 is a huge plus, might take em just for that
But yet you can’t use the mic with usbc…
@@kalifvision I don't buy HEADPHONES to speak.. I buy them to listen... they could come with no microphones at a lower price and it'll be a better option.
@@RotaryPokemon First. ANC headphones needs several microphones for noise cancelling. Second. You may want them for both music and calls in the office, especially when home office became common. And you absolutely want wireless microphone which picks your voice better than voice of your colleagues. Third. Don't expect you want what people need better than then themselves. Open headphones without microphone and with audiojack (or usb and integrated dac/amplifier) are surely better for listening music at the same price, but for office environment, they are absolutely useless.
The mic in fact does work usb C, just saying. Sennheiser also makes a wireless usb adapter called the BTD600 that can be used to take advantage of aptx adaptive on devices that don't support it such as computers or game consoles.
They are a do it all powerhouse.
@@McmeYTman Is modern AptX adaptive needed for better sound while using microphone? Cause I have 5 years old Sennheiser PXC550 having just AptX and sound quality is **awful** when some application requests microphone and headphones switch to headset mode. It does not matter if it's used via BT or USB, cause I think USB connection is used for tunneling bluetooth data. In theory, headphones can be used as USB soundcard, but they are not. And I'm sure someone complained about the same on other headphones.
So i bought the Sennheiser's , and I can tell they are fucking great , I have tried the xm5 and yes the anc is slightly better but the momentum kills it on the sound department.
Also as I have read varied reviews 2 problems that people were saying are now fixed .
1) The sound imbalance is not there i checked them thoroughly.
2) The random turning on is fixed for the most part.
A big thanks to the people who were recommending it in the comments.
✌️
I had the XM3s and loved them. I really hated to have to sell them a year ago. But from the sound of things I think I'm going to go for the Momentum 4s when I get a replacement for them later this year. Their quirks won't really bother me that much, and by far the most important things to me are ANC and sound quality.
i also have the XM3s and honestly no complaints but one... as a person with long hair they're a nightmare because of the metallic bands. They wrap around my hair like no tomorrow, so the XM4s look promising.
@@sofialee2471 The XM4 does really well, and from a sound quality standpoint, the XM4 is a nice step up when using noise cancelling. The XM3 gets a bit muddy in the lows during NC use. Did you end up with XM4's?
Any uptade? What did u end up buying, debating between xm4 and momentum 4
Thank you for the ANC analysis, often numbers alone are not the best indicator for comparing that kind of performance. I'm a sucker for sound quality, so the Sennheiser M4s were my first choice. The software issues have been resolved as in firmware 2.9.12. My big head has not issue with them, and now I'm convinced that they outperform Sony's XMxs where I care, sound quality and battery life.
Do you have the xm5s?
The best review I've watched between these three pairs! Thank you
I just added the XM4s to my arsenal of 12 over the ear headphones and I'm not disappointed at all. I love all the little differences these headphones have, so it's been a fun hobby to get into. I agree, my Sennheiser M4s are a pure joy to listen to. However, the ladt two cans i bought, these XM4s and Bose QC45 are really great sets.
Excellent video, great content.
Which would say sound BETTER! Is the difference in sound between the XM4s and M4s a major difference to sway your buying option in one way or the other? I have heard the M4s produce great bass but start sounding distorted at higher volume compared to the XM4s. I've also heard with an adjuatee EQ the XM4s can match the M4s highs and clarity without compromising the good bass.. what's your take? I'm torn between the 2.
Sennheiser also has longer warranty (2 years) than sony (1 year). I had a recent ANC malfunction in my 1000xm4 (high pitched nose, see numerous reddit discussions) after using it for 14 months and sadly it is no longer covered by warranty.
I just bought the Sennheiser Momentum 4 because they are miles ahead in terms of sound quality.
What device do u use them with
@@tomatocultivator6475 I use them with multiple devices: Samsung phone, MacBook Pro, HP Windows laptop
Do u recommend it for watching movies in phone?
@@FactNight yes
I have the XM3 the Momentum 2, 3 and 4 wireless and I don't understand how people can say the ANC on the Momentum 4s is practically or very near on par with the Sony. It's just not true. The ANC on the M4 is a bit better than on the M3, which have very bad ANC, but Sony's is way better, not even close. The battery life is the best thing about the M4. I also can't agree with the comfortabilty everyone says about the M4. I think the XM3 are much more comfortable. I even think the M3 are slightly more comfortable than the M4. I have about 10 negative points with the M4 compared to maybe 1 or 2 good points and I'm a Sennheiser fan. I'm very disappointed with the new M4. The build quality is a joke also. The hinges creak like I've never heard from a new headphone whenever slightly moving the head and the sound just goes distant when slightly pushing on the outer side and then releasing. Imo they're worth no more than 50 bucks.
It's always the downside of these static tests. The roadside test and coffee test is just a generic Internet sound. In real life, Sony performs very very good. Real life is walking through a dynamic city, going into tunnels, sitting in trains, working at the office and eating lunch or somewhere. All together, the Sony are really good. I can't imagine anything else being much better or similar.
you are not a sennheiser fan, and ofc you don't have all those headphones 😂 you are a hater and nothing more
I have them and the Noise Cancelling is great. And as a Xm3 owner id say sennheiser build quality is slightly better. I cant agree with your comment
9:54, wow I didn't know that. That's actually an amazing feature
Absolutely amazing. While wearing my M5 through my phone while watching the video through my desktop, I found myself shutting off my desktop to go to sleep.
I couldn't hear what you were saying which is exactly what any good programmer is looking for. They totally blew away the Bose 35 that my wife bought me last year but came in close to my M3s that I keep at the office. Maybe, I am now too tired to think about it, but I did get a problem solved even though my wife, mother-in-law, and sister-in-law are downstairs. Not that I was aware of that due to my new M5s.
None of the points that you were looking at but all of the points that any good programmer working in a typical office are looking for.
Key points
it makes your co-workers disappear audibility.
Im assuming most of this review is satire but based on the purpose of the headphones
That's why I've been in the audio industry... my entire life! It is 100% subjective! What is great for you... is a nongo for someone else. That's why we have so many choices. Most important... everybody's hearing is different. There is simply... no best of anything! It's simply what sounds, looks, and works the best.... for you!!! Not anybody else! Nice vid!
I never travel on airplanes nor do I need to stay focused in crowded areas. I just want headphones for music. Momentum 4 suits me better but since the import tax increase in Malaysia, sony headphones are just cheaper than Sennheiser here.
I got my sony xm3s over 3 years ago. I have a small head and its hard to find headphones that fit good over the ear. I have worn the xm3's for 10 hours at a time and honestly forgot I had them on. For my head shape they are so comfortable. Clamp force is perfect. Speaking to build quality I have spilled stuff on them, stepped on them, detailed cars in 100 degree heat wearing these during the summer seasons, done yard work and I use them for work. They are still ticking. I have been hard on them and they have held up great. I got a gift and figured I will give th xm5's a shot. I actually like the design of the 3's and 4's over the new ones. I don't give care there is a lot of plastic they are built like f*kin tanks. If the 5's don't blow me away I'll send back for a set of sony 4's. I will stay with sony due to build quality and comfort. They have blown me away in that dept.
How did you like the 5s?
@@keyanassiri hated them, returned them. Still rocking the 3's.
I have the XM4s and am gonna be buying the XM5s because the XM4s create a pressure spot on the top of my head and they are unusable after an hour. I think head shape is a big factor. The XM5s exert no pressure on the top of my head. So yeah, try before you buy!
I actually bought XM4 and I was in for major disappointment. After two weeks I called Sony and they said my color just went out of stock and to wait till the next year (!). Then they didn't want to send me different color because 'it's different item' (we're talking exact same model and price just different color) so I had to cancel order to order different color. Cancellation process took them few days to complete (that's before they started processing a refund).
After I finally got the XM4 it turned out they're faulty. Left noise cancelling mic was not working so it was painful to wear them with the noises it produced. Online support somehow tried to tell me it's normal/it's my fault and if I want them to look at it I'd have to pay!. I went to the physical store and the guy tested it and told me that indeed it's faulty and to get a replacement from online as I bought it online. So I asked for replacement or refund. They asked me 'so which one you want'. I said: 'if you have a working model available this year I'll take it'. They said: 'oh this is popular fault and most likely the replacement will also have it (!) so we will just organise a refund'. Still waiting for that refund but I was shocked how they suddenly casually admitted that most of their stock is faulty so there is no point of even replacing it. Anyway my last time with Sony.
Hello, just discovered this video and I have to say it the best review I've seen/heard for the xm4 vs xm5 which is exactly what I was looking for. You went to into every flaw I could be concerned with along with highlighting the positives.
Great job overall (I never leave comments on social media, that's how great I think your work is on this video)
I kept on comparing the xm4 and 5s and theM4 with video reviews and written reviews. I got more confused. I remembered when I bought my surround sound system I just listened to plenty of speakers in stores. I decided to do the same thing now. I bought the M4s! Y? I use them in my home with my iPhone and surround sound. No traveling no outside noise. Queens what they R awesome. On sale Labor Day for $264
I've watched many of your videos, but this really made me appreciate how you look at all the details and give a very balanced and considered view. Thanks.
so what i can conclude is the XM5 is basically just a better looking XM4, bcs look wise, most ppl including me, prefer that clean look, the similar vibe to Bose 700, that friction based headband actually look sleeker, but besides that it's not really better than the now much cheaper XM4
If money is a concern the xm4 is a better buy from my experience with both I do much prefer the xm5 overall I feel it’s definitely an improvement but the choice is up to you
Even though I prefer the xm4, the mic on the xm4 is so bad that I don't have any choice and have to buy xm5.
Obviously I need them to attend meeting and do calls.
Thanks for the comprehensive review! I owned XM5 for a while, so while I'm pretty satisfied with it, I feel that the sound quality could be much better for the price tag. I'm eyeing future Senny headphone in the future for the better sound quality in general
picked these up a few weeks back, they sound the best, i prefer the feel and look of the sony..paring with the momentum’s to the tv ipad i’ve had issues where there is no sound, had to turn the device of and on to work..either way they both are great headphones and cost the same price in australia, happy with the purchase
Personally, the biggest issue I've had with Sony XM4's is the build quality. 1 year after purchase, the ANC on right-side failed, repaired under warranty. 2 years after purchase, the right-side ANC failed again but I was able to somehow fix it by opening the earcup and fiddling with the feedback mic. 2.5 years after purchase, ANC on left-side failed and cannot seem to fix it. So, that's 2.5 years of use from 350€ headphones....
XM5 are worth the extra buck over the XM4s if you’re gonna use them often for phone calls/teams meeting/zooms etc. They double up as a fantastic work headset if you’re job involves using one.
If it's for that kind of use. not sure I'd ever see an over-ear as the option. True wireless in-ears tend to be designed for this. Both Sony's and Apple's offerings are great for this, with Apple being a bit ahead.
@@AB-80X in-ears simply can´t preventthe person you´re talking to from listening where you are and all.
Both the XM5s and the Bose 700 have no rivals as headsets
@@xavierpanohaya2647
"in-ears simply can´t preventthe person you´re talking to from listening where you are and all."
What does that mean?
I own both the Apple and Sony In-ears, and I also have the XM4 and XM5 overears.
If you're seriously suggesting that either of those will be superior to the Airpod Pro 2's in terms of not picking up background noise that the other end is hearing, I think you are simply not talking out of experience.
My Airpods are FAR superior to any of my Sony products when it comes to this. When I use my Sony overears I have to be a lot more mindful about what goes on around me, compared to what is needed for the Airpods.
@@AB-80X earbuds have good ANC for you, but the other side of the line usually still hears EVERYTHING
@@xavierpanohaya2647
No, and I did not say I had good ANC.
In my actual personal experience, the other end of the line have far superior ANC with my Airpods than they do if I'm using my XM's.
The user experience bit has been a challenge with Mometums for sometime now. When they work well they create magic but there are just too many ifs and buts with them. In the war between 'tech' bros and 'sound' companies, the tech guys are winning on the back of overall better experience. The sound guys really need to level up to win this.
Came off the back of using the XM3 and had the choice to upgrade to the XM5 or try something new. I opted for the Momentum 4 . I can't judge between the XM5 and the Momentum 4 , but I can tell you that the 4 is amazing. I like Sony products and have a tendency to stick with them. Maybe age or just curiosity is taking over, but unless you venture once or twice to other pastures you could be missing a good opportunity. I guess once these momentum 4's give up I'll probably take another look a what Sony has to offer. I haven't got one grumble with the 4's so far.
Quick one here: on the initial parts of the video you mentioned that the Sannheisers would automatically connect to your device once removed from their case. But later on you raise a con that compared to the Sonys, the Sannheisers had an issue reconnecting to your device automatically. How do you draw the line on that?
Thank you for all the information but I don’t think Sony put enough upgrades into the xm5’s therefore I will stick with my xm4’s until there next edition. I enjoy your reviews they are always very informative and detailed. 😊
yeah, I still prefer the XM4's over the XM5's. I feel that they were rushed out. Still don't like their design
Do the xm4s get loud enough?
@@johngardner869 They absolutely do.
@@johngardner869 They are also considerably cheaper.
@@josephgrimes8395 great, thank you for the reply I'm going to buy them
Labor Day sale after a lot of comparisons bought the M4s. I'm not traveling, not using them outside unless it's on my deck. Using them for movies and music, mostly movies(surrounded sound)they r awesome. Action scenes are incredible dialogue clear sound tracks insane. Paid $264 I'm very very happy.
Xm5 is the best for everyday users. I was on the highway in the back with the window open on a windy day and my sister thought I was talking to her in a my condo. The microphones are levels above the momentum 4 and xm4. I noticed with the momentum 4s that you literally have to take the headphones off to use your phone to talk because the sound quality is horrendous and the same goes for the xm4. If your looking for better sound and slightly less bass with better noise cancellation and 8 mic’s go for the Xm5’s they are literally perfect
so you use 2 pair of headphones everyday or what , lol
They're super cheap quality and notorius for breaking
To fix the on off issue when the headphones are in the case, face the cushions of the headphones upwards. I think that fixed the issue for me.
Frequent travelers don’t use the case. We throw it in our bag for easier access. You can always see when it’s someone who don’t travel much fiddles with the headphone case.
Agree
And that's why you "frequent travelers" always have to buy new ones every year, 'cause you break 'em lol
First I ordered the Bose QC Ultra which I loved in terms of comfort and feel, but was disappointed that the sound didn't seem as open, and the bass was weak. The EQ setting on the app does little to nothing. Highly disappointing. So I ordered the M4s to compare. Honestly, the M4s sound was superior. The bass was really nice. But on both of them the volume doesn't go as loud as I desire. Unfortunately I returned to M4s ONLY because the clamping pressure on my ears were too much. They didn't feel as comfortable as the QC Ultra. I was feeling too much tension in my head while wearing them. So now I just ordered the XM4s. I tried them on at Best Buy and they were very comfortable, comparable to the QC Ultra. Now, its a matter of sound quality, openess and bass. This is my first time purchasing a set of solid headphones, and lawd knows I didn't think it would be this stressful. Lol
I’m getting the Xm4’s for my birthday this year. I am pretty excited to hear how good the bass sounds including the noice canceling. It will be my second most expensive set of headphones. Sony is one of my favorite brands which is why I chose the Xm4’s in particular. I’m looking forward to try them out
How is the bass? Are you happy with it?
@@zonnebloemsummer6435 I don’t have them yet but I’ll update you on the bass when I finally try the headphones on. My birthday isn’t for a couple months so I’ll be waiting for awhile. I’m still excited about getting them because it’s gonna be the best pair of headphones I’ll ever own. just in case I forget to update you on the headphones just reply to this comment and I’ll be sure to respond back. my birthday is on August 9th to be exact so I have about 5 months until I get them
@zonnebloemsummer6435 I have the xm4s and they have really good bass, much better than the xm5
@@Legiey that’s the part I’m most excited for. I’m a bass head lol 😂
@@ProdINSNXEGHXST the skullcrusher anc2 is the king of bass, ridiculously good
Another thing is the Sony XM4s can be found brand new for less than $300 now. I got mine slightly used for around $180 which is a STEAL in my opinion.
Xm5 is available for 300$
@@maheshmurali2697 where? 🤔
Una de las mejores reseñas que he visto sobre estos productos. No hay nada igual en mi idioma. Si agregas subtítulos en español a tus videos, este canal crecerá exponencialmente.
Hola, en resumen cuál es mejor en calidad/precio?
@@jesusj69 he probado todos los del video y son lugar a dudas, la mejor opción es el momentum 4. No sólo tiene la mejor calidad de sonido, sino también un precio bastante ajustado respecto a su competencia.
I noticed that everyone is complaining about sound quality of XM4 and confirm that M4 are much better in that department. Are you using LDAC or you are apple AAC user ? Cause my opinion is a way different.
Great review. And made me buy the Sennheisers M4. But one question, how can you review the ANC and sound quality when you’re wearing a cap underneath the pads? You loose a lot of impact and ANC efficiency when you have a small gap between the pads and your head.
After watching many reviews including this one I went for momentum 4 headphones, no regrets at all
Sound quality is the best and that's the only reason I bought
Few problems- bluetooth gets disconnected frequently
Right ear cup has all controls but all of a sudden touch controls don't operate
Have to take them off and put over again it works
How frequently does bluetooth disconnect?
Great comprehensive review ♥️
Thank you!
@@GYMCADDY I know you used to love the sr30bt. How about trying the new Ath m20xbt? I returned my Sony xm5 bc I don't need anc. I put some brainwavz pads and these are amazing 😍. I got them for $70 discount on Amazon I think they are $79 now. I'd like to know what you think. ✌️
@@GYMCADDY what about bose 700?
Many tests say that the XM4's noise cancelling is much better in the low frequencies, is this true or not?
Also, how much of a problem is it that the M4 anc cannot be switched off? This is not mentioned
What any influencer FORGET to mention about this model is the FIRMWARE UNSTABILITY...which is very annoyng
- smart pause and head detection is terible...wont detect when i remove my headsets, only if i put them on my neck....also not start/pause automatically
- the headset also suddenly shutdown even if is streaming....randomly
- sound is good but not as hood as expected and the app even if usefull, could break the sound if you dont know more about sound quality.
I am a bit dissapointed but is still acceptable to keep them because of sound and battery.
Interesting review. Just goes to show how individual a preference of a housesound is.
I cannot get along with the Momentum 4, but the XM4 suits me well. In general, the Sennheiser housesound has never been for me, being it HD600's, HD650's, or HD800s'.But Beyer, Sony, Ultrasone, Shure, AT and others work well. Not sure how Sennheiser does it, but their sound is simply sit too far in the drivers - same issue with AKG. Out of all my collection, my XM4's are definitely my go-to over-ear wireless, especially because wireless is just not where you go for high end audiophile sound - so the sound needs to be fun, lively and easy to listen to.
Do you experience with the Sony Xm4's that on a flight, during take off, the wheels rolling cause alot a crackling and static when ANC is on until u get up in the air? And do the Momentum 4 and XM5'S have this issue?
I was on a flight with them recently and i didnt have any of such issue
Last months i stow my b and w px7 in to my bag instead of my " cheap" jbl free in my pocket. Because i beed to travel by bus instead of a "quiet" train . And the sennheiser case isn't that much smaller or bigger than the px7s case and you never gona manage to lay flat the headphones in your normal size daily base use bag. So well done Sennheiser 👏
2:18 can some tell me has this issue been fixed??
How is this Sennheiser compared to the Marshall Monitor II ANC headphone? I have the Marshall and looking for a suitable upgrade. Cheers!
Which headphones would you recommend I get for my iPhone 14 Pro? It has Bluetooth 5.3 and I was wondering how Sony’s new cans would get on with it, as those are Bluetooth 5.2. However, of the few pairs of wireless earphones I’ve used, including the wireless adaptor my Dad has for his Dr. Dres, there’s always about a second, maybe less, of delay! For latency tests, I plan to use a drumming app.
Для айфон😂😂 Точно не что то из дорогого,потому что в айфоне нет хороших кодеков, которые оправдали бы высокую стоимость,поищите что-то в районе 150-200 долларов с поддержкой кодека ААС и бед не знайте
wow awesome review, so much detail!!
Fantastic review, thank you. I've made my decision to get the Momentum 4s based off your analysis, thanks so much specifically for mentioning long term comfort! I have a big head and big ears, stuff sucks with most headphones.
Great video. awesome real world tests. Thank you for putting this together. Going with the Momentum 4's.
Thanks for the video!! I love your cap!! What is the brand?? Thankss😍😍😍
What about sound leakage?
Bought the special edition momentum 4 (copper) recently. i have not encountered any "bugs" that you have mentioned. I don't own either the xm4 or xm5 so i cant directly compare to it. As mentioned the comfort is not the best for me either but its not like its unbearable. But they do sound good and battery life is amazing. Just those 2 reasons are y i preferred these. I did have audio cut in and out issue on Spotify but no other apps had any issues like UA-cam so maybe a problem of Spotify. Also rarely there are some sound artifacts here and there like a small popping or jittery/dostorty sound that lasts for an instant, i don't know that normal or not for wireless headphones. I wasn't amassed by the anc, its just okay imo and i don't really care about anc in the first place, i wish i could turn it off.
Is it okay to go for sony xm5 for sound quality if its fixable with equalizer
How much difference is in xm5 and sm4?please reply
Very comprehensive review, thank you very much. 💯
I tested all these headphone and yes the Momentum 4’s sound the best and good enough ANC but the price is steep, the Sony XM5 have the best ANC but are too bulky with a thin headband and the case is awful and a $400 price tag, I would just buy the XM4 which can be had on sale early Black Friday deal for $228 the lowest price I’ve seen for these and a no brainer at that price point.
hi! where did you see that deal on the xm4?
BestBuy and Amazon last week early Black friday deal only lasted a day.
@@skyhigh8644 what about the mic quality on calls ?
Great video, I’ve had XM4 since their release for commuting and work and am considering upgrading. One feature that was not mentioned, and is the reason I wouldn’t buy Sony headphones again, is a physical or touch activated mic mute button, which the Momentum 4 does have and for work use is a must seeing as wireless headphone that require me to be at my computer to toggle the mic mute is nothing but an invisible tether.
I appreciate you time doing this video after all said and done which ones would you buy. Sony X5 or Momentum 4?
Momentum 4 if you prefer sound quality and battery life / XM5 if you prefer comfort
Bro really came prepared for the project here this is everything I want to know and more thank you!
I would advice all of you to listen to these before you make a purchase :)
Which one is more comfy to wear between xm5 and tm4 guys? I just bought xm4 for $250 and its giving me headache, not comfy to wear at all.
I don't agree with the conclusions (subjective though) but I like the objective overview you provided, definitely helpful comparison!
The momentum 4 are 217 euro here. I wanted to get the Xm4 but the price got my attention for the Momentus so which one should I get
late 2024, I have no used my new momentum 4 for 2 weeks and the sound quality is worth it. I've used mainy sony for wirelss over the years, much becasue of their ANC but now this SM4 is good enough and sound is not far from my Sennheiser 599. Also Momentum 4 with a good wire 2,5 - 3,5 mm cable they sound even better, a big thing for me since they can be used when dead of battery. =)
Great review!! just what I needed
Winners of Each Category (Momentum 4 VS XM4):
Case/Foldable- XM4 (Case is Smaller, and is Foldable)
Design/Build Quality- Tie
Fit- XM4 (Softer Headband, Less Cabin Pressure, Lighter Weight, Stays Cooler for Longer)
Tech Specs- Momentum 4 (60 Hours VS 30 Hours with ANC On)
Sound- Momentum 4 (Better Instrument Separation, and Bass is more Dynamic, Better Customization)
Media Controls- Tie
ANC- Momentum 4 (Better Noise Reduction, Less Cabin Pressure)
Ambient Mode- Tie
Mic Test- Momentum 4
Verdict- 21:46
I wear glasses and am strongly leaning towards getting the M4s, but im concerned about the clamping force. Anyone knows if they get painful after awhile?
I just bought the M4. Sound is very objective so what might sound good to me might not sound good to others. I’m an aspiring music composer and write music for orchestra through digital audio interface. I also listen to lots of music and genres everyday. I tried numerous headphones and I have to say that M4 was an absolute excitement to hear. Clarity and instrument separation and the clear bass for it’s price is remarkable. Not to make this long and answer your question. I kind of have a big head 😂 and I also wear glasses but with all that I’m comfortable with the M4s. I believe that the updates have fixed a lot of system issues as well because after 2 weeks of ownership now I haven’t had the issues that I’ve had seen on many reviews. The only thing that bugs me but I’d totally let it pass because of the great sound is just by a small readjustment it pauses my music. Sorry for the long reply. All the best 🙏
@@fardindaneshmand6704hi! I found your comment was helpful and was wondering if you had an update for how comfortable they are for extended periods of time
Thanks!!
some important things about the momentum 4s that no one mentions: you can't turn off anc and you can't turn off touch controls
if you watch the full review, I mentioned that. in the versus videos I have to selectively remove some details to cut on time.
After checking your video with Momentum 4 vs the BOSSES, this is also a great video !!!
I only like to remind - the autopower issue of the Momentum4 - nothing like it on my pair from summer 2023. The comfort is also on the BETTER side here. I have the XM4, but the sound of the Sennheiser works better for my ears.
Does anyone know if the auto-on feature of the M4s has been fixed, or whether it is possible to turn it off in the app?
And how are the touch controls after long term use?
Thanks!
Guys, if you don't care much about a perfect ANC, don't search any more reviews! Momentum 4 are by far a class apart in comfort and sound quality! Just by far the best value purchase in my life time!
I hope I can get a reply, are the Momentum 4 straight up white or a greysh color like the Bose QC45?
Xm5 good for small head.. clamping force?
I bought momentum 4's 3 days ago, before that I owned the last 3 model for a long time, however, I like 4's much better in terms of comfort, but the sound is more difficult to say, even with the equalizer adjusted I can not say that they sound better than the last model, not even better, but a little worse, but the comfort is just another level, very soft and light, I also did not like the fact that they are made of flimsy plastic, and I think that after a while it can break.
i just came back from the store where i tested those three. I must say the comfort is the most important for me, so Sennheiser lost right away (haven't even started listening to music on them because I knew there is no point). XM4 was the winner for me as I didn't see much difference with XM5. I even thought maybe XM5 are even slightly less comfy and less bass and of course more expensive so XM4 all the way. The only other model in the store that I liked was Bose QuietComfort 45. It's certainly lives up to the name but since they were far from each other and I played different songs on them I can't really compare audio quality on them. About the same price as XM4 so we will see on Cyber Monday what's gonna happen with those. My current headphones are Bose though and I can feel after 30 min how uncomfortable they can get. So I'm leaning toward Sony a bit.
Which Bose headphones do you have ?
@@partapbika I don't have time to look for the box but I think they're also QuietComfort, earlier version. They look quite similar.
I actually bought XM4 and I was in for major disappointment. After two weeks I called Sony and they said my color just went out of stock and to wait till the next year (!). Then they didn't want to send me different color because 'it's different item' (we're talking exact same model and price just different color) so I had to cancel order to order different color. Cancellation process took them few days to complete (that's before they started processing a refund).
After I finally got the XM4 it turned out they're faulty. Left noise cancelling mic was not working so it was painful to wear them with the noises it produced. Online support somehow tried to tell me it's normal/it's my fault. I went to the physical store and the guy tested it and told me that indeed it's faulty and to get a replacement from online as I bought it online. So I asked for replacement or refund. They asked me 'so which one you want'. I said: 'if you have a working model available this year I'll take it'. They said: 'oh this is popular fault and most likely the replacement will also have it (!) so we will just organise a refund'. Still waiting for that refund but I was shocked how they suddenly casually admitted that most of their stock is faulty so there is no point of even replacing it. Anyway my last time with Sony.
@@pinang1 I guess in the end Momentum won XD
@@theannualantagonist5930 I'd rather say Sony lost
It annoys me how good these all could be if these companies stopped pushing this smart tech bullshit like always on battery or adaptive anc. Give us more personal control, physical buttons and normal headbands. Focus on the sound quality now, ANC is already so good you really don't need complete silence with no music playing, 99% of the time you will have music playing and you don't hear anything anyway. I have IEM's that block out airplane level noise perfectly fine at 30% volume so lets focus on the sound quality and design again. These look awful, those headbands are cheap and the slide to adjust is every OCD persons nightmare. Give us solid click to adjust levels with numbers on steel bands.
If sennheiser even just took their HD600 line of headphones and made a wireless version they'd sell out so fast.
Just purchased the momentum 4...while I find the sound quality is pretty amazing for wireless headphones but just like a pair of wireless headphones I tried from sennheiser long time ago...the sound level is still low...even at max its not very loud.
Amazon in my region sells the XM5 for $300 only which is very strange, XM4 for $255 & the Momentum 4 for $370.
I would still sat XM5 is overpriced for the amount of improvements they 'intoduced' after XM4. Momentum is good if they fit your head and you feel comfy in them I guess. Otherwise you might suffer in the long run. Also seem too expensive comparing to Sony.
Which one has bigger inner earpad size? Just bought M4 and honestly it's too small for my ears, headphones like sennheiser hd380 pro or game zero fit best, unfortuneatly i can't find specs about earpad size for both m4 and xm5
xm5
VEry well done. Thank you for this comparison review 👍
I wonder if my M4 unit is faulty... there's no passive sound coming through from my phone (does with other headphones powered off). Usb-c wired mode sounds terrible and i need to connect the wire, power off the M4 then back on for it to work properly. My separate Poweramp EQ presets cause distortion with relatively moderate adjustments. Plus its so glitchy in general. Hopefully I can find a store to test another pair.
thus the momentum for has the same issue now?
I have small ears and th eSony XM3 earcups are too close and the headband starts to get uncomfortable after a while. Comfort and controls are king for me. And comfort sounds the best on the XM4.
Off topic, Does anc works without hearing music? Is it possible to cancel the noise from outside and be complete and solely silent?
‘All these head-flowns..’ 3:47
Its clear from ANC point of view. Both sony xm5s and xm4s blew momentum 4 out of the water!
Is there a good pair of headphones that has the double tap to pause music and turn on transparency mode, has sound quality of the momentum 4s but has the anc of the mx5s?? And of course around the ears ear cups and comfortability and when putting them away in the case, they fold??
Hii iam currently very confused between sony xm4, xm5 and sennheiser momentum 4 i want to buy an all rounder headphones one which i can use on my ps5, ioad pro and phone. I mostly play games like rdr 2 so their is no issue of playing with mic and i heard sound is better on momentums but iam really very confused because i want to buy headphones for a long run so any suggestions pls? Btw currently sony xm4s are the cheapest and xm5 and sennheiser momentum 4s are on same price after discount durability and comfort is also very important for
10:10 now I'm curious to know... which are the best wireless sounding headphonesa out there? Cuz I really thouht it was a dead fight between Sennheiser and Sony atp.
heyy, in this case from my understanding, it reallyy is a dead fight between Sennheiser and Sony in the Noise-Cancelling Headphones category. What he means is that if we only consider the sound quality of Sony as a headphone in general, there are better ones!:)
And best headphones, many a time is subjective. depends on the type of music u listen tp=, or if ure watching shows on it. and then it depends on ur budget, and the device u r playing it on. from what i know, sonhy is the BEST all-rounder! to me, im not the biggest fan of its sound because it sounds a little to warm. I prefer the sound of pxc550 ii as it is more neutral and i like the sound stage of it (note that here, im still comparing between 2 ANC headphones specifically). Hope this helps!
If all you care about is sound the Sennheiser is better in his opinion and in mine too. You can hear his thoughts around 11:00
Plot twist: when you watch Gymcaddy's videos you buy all three
Please don’t do that 😅
@@GYMCADDY p.s. you are the best!
Has the Momentums ever received a fix with any of their software?
The ambience mode is still pretty bad unfortunately
Hello Gym Caddy ,
For the last several months I tried dozens of true wireless earbuds but I finally gave up because none couldn't fit me ear.
The last pair I owned was the sennheiser mtw3 and I loved the sound and bass.
To me bass is very important as well as the quality of the sound.
So I'm going back to the Headphones market , I already have the sony xb-900 that I bought 3 years ago. Now that we are in 2023 do you recommend upgrading to a new pair with better bass and clarity for around 200-300$ or you think nothing can beat the sony xb-900 at that price point ?
Love your channel ! Thanks!
Why not just get a set of soft moulded tips for the in-ears?
September 2023: is the sennheiser issue with auto connect while inside the case fixed?
after thus video i am going to buy sony xm5
because of auto sift ambient mode when i am taking to someone
and dual pairing option
also good noise cancelling
price is too high case is bulky easy to get dirty if you even purchase black colour