Samurai Weapons VS Knight Armour: Would Knight Armour Keep you Safe?
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2020
- Would Knight armour be enough to protect you from samurai weapons? What samurai weapons woudl be the most dangerous for a knight? Let's find out!
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The most iconic Japanese weapon is the katana; It is characterized by its particular appearance: a single-edged, curved blade with a circular or squared guard and long grip for grabbing with two hands.
The first use of "katana" (gatana) as a word to describe a long sword that was different from a tachi occurs in the Kamakura Period (1185-1333).
The katana became very popular amongst samurai due to the changing nature of close-combat warfare. The quicker draw of the sword was well suited to combat where victory depended heavily on short response times.
The katana was often paired with a smaller companion sword, such as a wakizashi, or it could also be worn with the tantō, a smaller, similarly shaped dagger. The pairing of a katana with a smaller sword is called the daishō.
The katana is generally defined as the standard sized, moderately curved (as opposed to the older "tachi" style featuring more curvature) Japanese sword with a blade length greater than 60 cm ( 23 1⁄2 inches).It is characterized by its distinctive appearance: a curved, slender, single-edged blade with a circular or squared guard (tsuba) and long grip to accommodate two hands.
An armour (spelled armor in the US) is a protective covering that is used to prevent damage from being inflicted to an object, individual, or vehicle by weapons or projectiles, usually during combat, or from damage caused by a potentially dangerous environment or action.
The word "armour" began to appear in the Middle Ages as a derivative of Old French. It is dated from 1297 as a "mail, defensive covering worn in combat". The word originates from the Old French armure, itself derived from the Latin armatura meaning "arms and/or equipment", with the root armare meaning "arms or gear".
Armour has been used throughout recorded history. It has been made from a variety of materials, beginning with rudimentary leather protection and evolving through mail and metal plate into today's modern composites.
Significant factors in the development of armour include the economic and technological necessities of its production. For instance, plate armour first appeared in Medieval Europe when water-powered trip hammers made the formation of plates faster and cheaper.
Well-known armour types in European history include the lorica hamata, lorica squamata, and the lorica segmentata of the Roman legions, the mail hauberk of the early medieval age, and the full steel plate harness worn by later medieval and renaissance knights, and breast and back plates worn by heavy cavalry in several European countries until the first year of World War I (1914-15). The samurai warriors of feudal Japan utilised many types of armour for hundreds of years up to the 19th century.
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The Samurai's best chance would be to get their hands on the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch and count to 5, er, 3.
I wonder, if actual hand grenades of the time would be effective (pots with blackpowder and potentially some metal pieces for shrapnel effect). At least the horses would have trouble with that.
😂
Monty reference 😂
Careful. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.
1 2 4 er 3
Best weapon to take out hired knights and samurai is a bag of money and agreement to go elsewhere.
A language everyone understands. Money
Without a shadow of doubt, not having to shed blood is the best option for both parties.
Pay them money and make them work for you and rob someone else. Then repeat the cycle thus born feudalism.
Or HUGE tracks of land....
Very good pig country?
"You are a noble knight in shining armor"
"...I needed that today"
“Some say books are made to be read, but these people are fools. It takes a true intellect to realize the aerodynamic potential books: they were made to be thrown” ~Lorenzo de’ Medici
Funny guy that Lorenzo.
cosigned by Kyou Fujibayashi
We don’t have that many books
No. I don't want to see more aerodynamics. PLEASE
Where did you got that? I can't find it
Love how he has an Asuka figure just chillin next to the knight
14:27
There are two knights.
A Templar and a Hospitalier.
Now... how would a samurai or a knight fare against an Angel ?
@@advisorv "For the sake of the Lord, man the trebvchet Shinji!"
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Subbed the second I saw the figure.
If I were a knight? Poleaxe and Rondel.
If I were a Knight of Malta? A 3 pounder loaded with canister shot.
Golden Comment
Ha!
...And a Beretta for an odd survivor.
@Daniel Wong Do you really need the Fifty if you've got power armor against a samurai? I'm sure a punch will do the trick just fine.
@@garrettharriman6333 what about the total chad German knight that use hand cannon during 14th century when they are fighting in cividale del friuli?
It’s amazing to think about the Japanese because not just were they developing their own sophisticated armor, weaponry, and tactics but they also displayed the Roman quality of noticing superior versions used by others and swiftly making them your own
If I was actually attacked by a samurai suddenly in this year, I'd honestly wouldn't be surprised.
Boredfan Gerrude No shit...
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Story?
BANZAI
I mean there are people who were robbed with crossbows🤔.
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Don't mention the war!!!
I always root for Tim from the bakery around the corner!
To be fair, I think that fight would be very interesting
Never underestimate the baker
I would also prefer to watch Tim vs. Tom. High stakes matches can be boring, they don't take any risks. The best shows come from people who don't care if they get eliminated in round one.
kneading the dough builds arm muscles in similar manner to a boxer.
the ovens will singe the baker, so he will have a tough skin.
a baker has stamina, since he works for hours in hot environment around the oven.
and finally, in defense, most people who work with food develop a big belly, so the extra fat will cushion the strikes to the baker's body.
I'd give Tim a 3:7 chance against a pro wrestler.
@@belalabusultan5911 and how much time did you spend working that out?
The "samurai" would win if he breaks the knight's posture and knocks him off a bridge.
Wait a minute...
robertooooooooooo
I'm take a long shot and guess that's a for honour referance
@@glizzybeard7366 Sekiro i think.
@@glizzybeard7366 why noth both
During the Portuguese incursions in Southern China, there was an account of a Portuguese marine wearing full plate armor holding off Chinese boarders with a montante and it took a hand cannon to shut him down.
Probably the Slayer's ancestor.
Accounts of swordsmen being extremely formidable with two handed swords in Southern China is rather prominent for some reason, there’s also accounts not to dissimilar with Tie Ren and Wokou as well.
Firearms combined with number and good logistics win the day. One of the reasons why knights-like combat unit became obsolete by the 1600s. It took so much money and time to properly train and arm a single knight. Only to get stomped, thrown fire bombs, gunned, etc by some goons with dedication and good tactics. Things get worse when the enemy force is used to field much more number in one battle. This is why after the renaissance, European battles started to the grow in large number with better logistics, command and control. (Yay for conscripts army)
All I'm thinking of is that one miniboss in Sekiro
@@billh6010 Sounds like an old character getting powercrept in a video game lol.
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I had to do it
So in the end: always bring a gun to a knight fight?
Wait that's illegal
*Parry this y'all fucking casuals*
-Sir Indiana Jones, 1st Earl of *"insert province"* , circa 15th century.
unless it's raining.
Lol but all jokes aside later knights did use guns, so it wouldn’t be too too unlikely to see
I literally groaned, well done ;)
I like that he have a templar crusader next to asuka in his bookshelf
I didn't even notice... nice.
I noticed immedietly, and had to think tomyself; "Why? .... I wonder how many recources are actually spent on producing such things. Such a waste of money."
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 bruh
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 you like it? Then it’s not a waste
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 besides, weaponry and armor must be the expensive hobby
When the japanese met the portuguese
Portugal : here have our armor and guns
Japan : well that was easy
XD
Hm, probably wouldn't happen on a large enough scale. Japanese wouldn't trust foreigners enough to ditch their beloved armours for some euro ones. Plus they were relatively smaller than Europeans, so it would have required to completely refit breastplates and limbs-related protections to their sizes, and on top of that not accounting the maintenance-relative craftsmanship such overhaul would have needed.
Conservativeness is the most difficult hurdle to go over in order to win wars, cf. 1870 Prussian-French war, WW1, WW2.
@@Chocolouf They did create Nanban armor. Which was heavily inspired by European armor.
And bread, do not forget the bread
@NEXTしょう。。。 they did use european armors and helmets. Well, these few lords who could afford it.
I wanna see Mike Tyson vs Tim from the bakery.
Tim from the bakery around the corner would win
Tim won't have any ears.
How bout Golovkin vs Saul Alvarez?? Was quite a fun middleweight match
I'd rather see Muhammad Ali versus Kent the farmer.
Who knows. Maybe Tim has won many brawls at the local tavern and village wrestling festivals to win over the heart of Susie who works the fields.
I love how passionate Metatron gets sometimes.
like every pasta boi
Samurai and Knight meet for the first time.
Samurai: Thicc thighs...
Knight: ...save lives
and thus they became friends.
We may be separated by continents, but our saviour is all the same.
Praise be the thiccness!
samurai: (strikes knight with katana) Now stand aside, worthy adversary!
knight: it's but a scratch...
samurai: (does jump atack) the tremendous horse cut technique should had destroyed your armor...
knight: full steel plate laddy!
samurai: mmm... the, power of friendship?
knight: hmmm...
samurai: I also have this kanabo to hit you with but weaboos insist I use my sword, I'm tired of them...
knight: that's rough buddy
It is truly sad that so many weaboos are obsessed with the katana and none of the other weapons they had lol.
Blame Hollywood they seem to want to always show sidearms as the main weapon used by every military ever of all time. Even 300 had way too much sword use by the Spartans in all honesty and that would of been the perfect choice of movie to not use swords in.
@@andrewstorey8584 True
Lmao
@@andrewstorey8584 agree. Maybe the fashinashion for swords came for romantic duels also.
The first "dutch" ship that arrived in Japan after the Portuguese left was packed with "light" armour of the latest fashion. aka bullet proofed curasses & lame quises
japanese already developed their own before the dutch came though
Shugoki laughs in Kanabo
Lawvringer laughs in V E R S A T I L I T Y
N O S U P E R S T E S
Tiandi laughs in dodge spam
Orochi laughs in light spam
And Hitokiri laughs in hyper armor
Centurion laughs in punching
Speaking of keeping one's powder dry, I've even seen an early Japanese musket that had a small parasol that covered the hammer and pan. I had to appreciate the simplicity of such a solution, even if it did look like a cocktail umbrella! ;D
Would like to see a comparison of average Japanese and European footman
Ashigaru vs peasants! Yes please! I want to see this
Personally I think the European tendency to use shields would make the difference
@@Red-S-267 Personally, I feel than Ashigaru are more akin to Sergeants or Yeomen than Peasants, but that's just me.
@@Altarahhn understandable but that level of variance is real.
@@spyrofrost9158 it might or it might not. shields wont exactly stop 400 bullets.
Knight: spends half his savings in futuristic new technology metal suit to protect himself from the horror of the battlefield
Samurai: whips out metal baseball bat
Knight: sweat profusely
The problem with it is that he didn't describe how slow and heavy that weapon is. It'd be very easy for a knight to close distance and essentailly nullify the weapon with his dagger in hand.
Knight: I got something better
*whips out mace
Samurai: Dammit. He got something smaller and easier to use than my oversized metal bat.
"You are a knight"
*sweats nervously due to being Muslim*
"Y-Yes, a knight."
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You'd be a mameluke
A viking-german-hybrid joined the chat
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A Christian who never read his bible because it would make him an atheist has said what about a muslim?
"Why did the samurai switch over from bows to guns?"
As an American I am legally obligated to answer with this
BECAUSE GUNS ARE AWESOME AND EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THEM!
I don't like guns. I mean sure they give you advantage you need. But no I would not use guns.
Murica, fu** yeah!! Coming again to save the motherfu**in day, yeah!!
@@yagurainuzuka you may not like them, but every military on earth seems to kinda like them. and its kinda dumb to limit your defense because of feelings, honestly.
@@tuoy1 that's his purgative, I would say "just because you love one weapon doesn't mean you you cant love others as well"
@@yagurainuzuka Just because you love one weapon doesn't mean you you cant love others as well
Poleaxe.
If the cut fails, then the mass will cave in the armour or break bones.
Haven't even watched the full video but already know its going to be amazing as per usual, thanks dude!
Historically, Jujutsu seemed to have been an effective way to deal with armor. It's probably not going to be easy since knights also know how to grapple, but that's one option.
thats going to be probly their last resort
Well, european knights would have been relatively bigger, hence stronger and faster, so even that would have been another difficulty.
HEMA types always seem to underestimate the value of grappling in armored combat
Moving someone who is already probably bigger than you (European vs. Japanese) AND in all that armor is a big ask considering he has a few pointy toys and an intention to use them on you.
A solid body check that puts him on the ground is going to be what you need in order to pin his arms and get a knife into an opening - and that isn't going to be easy - since he has TRAINED against that for the battle field charge.
Numbers are what you would need, because the knight is just better equipped. 3 guys beat 1 guy no matter his gear advantage from the days of Adam until the days of Samuel Colt.
@Aaron B Give an example.
The knights would be chilling until they pull out the kanabos 😂😂
And that’s when the knight introduces his friend the poleaxe
Pulling out a knife would also mean you cant be chill.
@@Specter_1125 or the pole hammer
@@Specter_1125 Halberds
@@Specter_1125 Here is when the knight introduces the morning star
Just a FYI about bows in the rain, they very much are affected. It can cause problems with the string by letting it stretch. This will often let them stretch and that robs energy from the arrow. Water can cause huge changes in wood. Ideally the wood should be between 6% to 12%. Going lower makes it stronger but more brittle. Going higher makes the wood weaker and it cannot take the same strain as before and and if over strained and take permanent set. Since both Japan and the UK get a lot of rain they both made very long bows in order to spread the strain over a larger area. The advantage yew has over other materials is the high oil content that helps seal the wood.
Ok, but we know from the historical record that English longbowmen Simply removed the strings and then put them back when It stopped raining. Goodluck doing anything like that with a crossbow, so that was my point really.
I wonder how modern armour would fair against medieval weapons, I suspect the answer isn't as clear-cut as some might expect
Doesn't modern armor really only protect the head and torso, since those're the areas an enemy's most likely to shoot? If so, I think medieval weapons would do fairly well depending on where they strike.
@@ezrafaulk3076 Yes, on military armours. However riot gear is actually designed to be protective against blunt impact and cuts.
@@TheOpalHammer but does it cover the WHOLE BODY, or JUST the head and torso? THAT'S what I was focusing on in my reply; I'm fairly certain modern military armor CAN in fact protect the wearer against MOST medieval weapons when striking the areas it DOES cover, but if it doesn't cover the WHOLE BODY, a medieval weapon blow to an area it DOESN'T cover is VERY LIKELY to be DEVASTATING.
@@ezrafaulk3076 Very true, but heavy duty riot gear does cover the majority of striking areas, like the shoulders and arms too.
I imagine modern armor would just use their machine gun and mow them down easily before they got close enough to do anything to the vehicle.
Dude, for the past couple months I've been falling deep down this rabbit hole of historical combat. I have no idea where I am or how I ended up here. But I'm not complaining.
I seem to recall reading, many years ago, something about the design of motorcycle helmets. I think it said that, if you strike your head against the road at 11 mph, then you're gonna get a broken neck. Imagine running headlong into a wall, with all the energy being directed thru your neck. So, there comes a point where the helmet won't protect your life, no matter its thickness or resistance to penetration.
5 m/s and a dead stop if your body without the head weighs 70 kg is enough to brake your neck almost 3 times over.
(Why am I calculating this and not my physicks homework?)
There also comes a point where 17" battleship armour won't protect your life.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Acceleration is a much more precise means of stating the case. I think that the original author was trying to make the point that a relatively trivial tumble could prove fatal, even to a helmeted rider.
The original piece discussed the strength of the chin-strap and its attachment points. The tenor was that, "There's no point in making the strap any stronger, because if THIS breaks, you're already dead."
Thinking about it, now, the quoted figure might have been 7 mph, rather than 11 mph. It's forty years ago ... I can't recall with any accuracy.
I been in a bike crash. My helmet got a chunk peeled away by the friction against the ashpalt. That could have been my skull.
wear the daam thing.
which is why jousting helmets were attached to the cuirass making them one solid block of steel that took the brunt of the impact, the neck wouldnt be strained much because it has nowhere to go when the head is just bouncing against the padded walls of the armor.
Yes, I love to see practical applications! Good find! I'll finish your video first :)
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Good to see the shout out to Reece and Ben from pursuing the knightly arts
It will basically become a wrestling match and will get down to who will stab the other first in the armor gaps/neck/face. Would be a very nice battle to witness. These comparison are really hard to factor in because it just come down to the amount of trainning of each opponent.
Or just go for the eyes👉👀
Also you would be the one trying to wrestle, it's better for him if you're in front of him not on him so he would try to get up probably
@@lukalux5511 from what ive seen, most fights in heavy armor with no maces/polearms usually ends up the two of them punching/wrestling until one pins down the other and use the dagger/stiletto. That or murder strike until the others passes out or until u ruin ur handle/pommel on the sword xD
Yeah but no one said that you have good armour
Samurai had bad armour compared to European knights
Noble Metatron, sincerely thank you for this great video, comment discussion at your previous one was great! Thanks to everyone who add their part into that topic(yes, that’s me, who started the great conflict under previous video)😁
I follow you for years now, but somehow this became my favourite Metatron video in an instant. Great content and presentation man.
Nice! Another video of that guy who throws books around!
knights armour is all good and protective till they get sat on by a sumo wrestler
There is this myth in the west that Sumo wrestlers are all super fat and can't move or smth, it's comes from America because most of the Sumo Rikishis that came to prominence from the USA (Hawai specifically) were super huge (like Akebono)
But that does not represent the standard at all, in fact, the average weight of the Sumo Yokozunas (grand champions) throughout the entirity of Sumo wrestling history would be between 100kgs and 130kgs at most maximum.
Here's a video that shows the history of SUmo yokozunas:
ua-cam.com/video/evy6bdvotkY/v-deo.html
To sit on me sumo guy would have to first survive glaive or Warhammer to the head or knees. If he doesn't have good armour then he's dead meat. The thing is it really doesn't matter how big or strong person is once one side is fully armoured and armed then it is just a matter of hacking through the meat and sharp European sword goes through meat and bones like through butter.
The most significant disadvantage of full plate armor is its weight. You do not need anyone to sit on a knight, make him fall and he will have trouble getting up by himself. Also if it’s not a mounted knight, why engage at all? With the heavy armor he will never ever catch you.
Id take being sat on by a sumo wresler over bieng hit with a pole axe any day.
Lmao a vision of a medieval knight getting the the(WWE) Rikishi Stinkface finish move done on him just appeared in my mind. 🤣
I think you are right about the Tanto. Use your Katana or a pole arm to get past the knight's sword and then switch to jiujitsu and Tanto. I'm pretty sure throws, joint locks and choke outs still work even against someone in armor.
It's interesting that you mentioned that a musket wasn't that effective against plate armour, most people think muskets were superior to bows and armour which is why they were adopted. Years ago I had a brief visit to the British armies weapon museum and the man giving us the brief tour said that the longbow had better range, better penetration and a higher rate of fire than the musket. The musket was adopted because the long bow took something like 7-12 years to train draw and fire (can't remember the exact time as it was 8 years ago) where as it o ly took a few weeks to learn how to fire a musket so an army could be trained a lot quicker and didn't rely on highly skilled individuals.
No. Muskets had better range and when concentrated in Mass were much more effective against large cavalry formations wearing armor or not. Longbow merely had better range.
You contradict yourself as to which weapon had better range. If the longbow was better but took far longer to train, surprising armies did not keep at least an elite minority of long bow men among the musketeers.
There is a rather niche variant of the yari called the katakama yari, that might be relevant to this discussion. It's very similar to the Chinese dagger-axe.
Basically, it has a narrow pointed blade off the side of the spear head that could be used as a hook or a pick. It would have the same function as most similar European polearms, like the bill, halberd, or bec de corbin in serving as a spike at the end of a long pole that could travel at sufficient speed on the swing to do some harm to a wearer of a full plate harness.
Wouldn't call it a niche weapon, There's also other weapons to make use of.
gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2019/06/defeating-late-japanese-armor-tosei.html?m=1
Keep in mind this does not go over everything.
The Japanese club is not relying on immediate damage. Hit a leg, take out your balance. Hit your chest, take out your wind. Hit your head, that is a weak joint in your neck, and regardless of your helmet that is a critical spot. Also, as fearsome as the iron clubs looked, i still think the wood ones could be more effective in application because they would be faster on the swing and recovery. You don't have to hit lethal every time, just strategic.
Take the taiaha from the maoris for example, if made traditionally it can be as hard as steel.
And...let me remind you that Europeans used shields against weapons faster and more lethal than the kanabo to great effect. Simultaneous blocking and countering with a stronger mace that only needs one blow to kill>>kanabo.
And lets not forget knights loved poleaxes, pole hammers, halberds and several other long, anti armor weapons that outranged and could hit harder than most kanabos.
And lets not forget they also trained to hit strategically, as their best opponents would not fall to a single blow.
@@mintyfresh7867 I do not want to come across as a condescending, or virtue signaling prick, when i say that the taiaha appears to be a carefully engineered and perfected weapon. It may be low technology but it is consummate in the incremental skill that went into its design. I would be surprised if it was a sudden burst of genius. I think it was a good idea that was honed and improved over time. But by the time Westerners first saw it, it was perfect in form and function. The artistry that many of these were adorned with further proves their sophistication. You do not put that artistry into a simple spear or club. The taiaha was in its own class.
@@budahbaba7856 oh no 100 percent agreed
@@MrAlepedroza We need to consider that a kanabo may have had enough mass to break an arm holding a shield if swung with enough force. The Japanese had also developed (arguably) the most efficient sword techniques as well techniques that exploit openings and weak points, while northern Europeans of medieval times were not known for technical martial arts of that caliber. The Japanese were also versed in military strategy with several noteworthy named daimyo. I may be wrong in assuming, but there are not many known northern European military strategists of the classical knight and medieval era. Alas, even with technique and strategy seemingly on their side, the Japanese samurai are probably still more likely to lose a first encounter with the European knights. Should the fighting continue, however, strategy may make the difference.
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Fun fact about the Uzi, that military automatic pistol (yes it is a pistol). When I was a soldier, a sergeant told us, never forget, when somebody does not do what you told them, you can HIT them with your Uzi. Oops. Imagine that, it is basically a heavy baseball bat, it will deliver a decent wallop. Even a knight would not like such blows.
One topic about warriors like knights and samurai I think would make for an interesting video would be about their positive aspects. More specifically, what good deeds (martial, duty, compassion, etc.), life lessons, kind individuals, and other things could we learn about? With many people online focussing on the negative aspects, I think we're due for learning about the other side of the spectrum.
When is Samurai/Medieval weapons vs Modern Kevlar and Stab Vests?
Though Joerg did get bullied for the video testing the dagger on the police vest, maybe not a good idea.
Maybe it still is.
I will have katana vs bat gauntlets soon. I can tell you a katan wouldn't stand a chance against my ballistics armour. Blessings
@@VeganJutsu but will it stand against the pressure of being at the bottom of the Mariana Trench
@@myssledissle yes
@Lord Admiral Spire I'd still be curious to see how much it reduces the damage. Given heavy clothing reduces the ability of a blade to cut, I'm curious how well kevlar would fare.
@@Maverick-gg2do kevlar stops the slash attacks. It is stabbing attacks that it is poor at stopping.
Nice video.
Laughed a bit at 13:30 when you talked about your powerful weapon and show the how you hit a waterbottle with a stick.
This guy is awesome. One of the few people on UA-cam worth actually looking up to.
12:30 that's how I like my girls _"So thicc that it didn't even matter anymore"_
2:22 My mind: "Very awesome, very cool, nice English Knight!" Also my mind: "NOBLE KNIGHT OF BRETONNIA! FOR ZE LADY! ZE GRAIL GUIDES ME!"
Great video, sir.
Historically, the Samurai also had kamayari, the Japanese equivalent of billhooks, that would definitely do damage when smashed on the heads of even fully armoured European knights: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama-yari
The same could probably be said for the bisento, the heavier big brother of naginata: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisento
And of course if they did run into European knights more than once, the Samurai would definitely pick up the use of warhammers pretty quickly.
Musashi had a technique he referred to as the "body of lacquer and glue" that I think would apply. It involves rushing in close and using the wakizashi to stab at their eyes.
Asuka Langley, Evangelion
Love your content, you really take a lot of things into an account! Thanks for the recommendation for 'PursuingThe KnightlyArts'! Dude, I must ask, why don't you cover more the medieval Eastern Roman Empire? I would love if you do a series on it. Also, now that I think about it, please do another series; Sicily!!! Greeks, Romans, Phoenicians, Normans, Arabs (North Africans, not sure...) see!! you must cover these! Cheers mate! ;)
Amazing, man! You know a lot about metallurgy too!
I’m a Mexican knight. Every time I go buy tacos from a street vendor I get attacked by samurai. It’s getting annoying.
Wait, wouldn't you be a Jaguar or Eagle Warrior instead?
"Mike Tyson vs George foreman or Lightweight Tim vs Tom from the bakery?"
Honestly? I want to see Tim and Tom fight because Tyson and Foreman are both washed out and well past their primes.
That said, I think George would outlast Tyson both being at their best.
I hear he makes some grest grills as well
Tyson or Foreman now would probably still be able to knock the average moron on their backside.
@@coreys2686 probably. That's the difference between past your prime and never saw your prime.
@@bon7029 past your prime vs needs to order gloves off Amazon prime.
To fight a Knight I would try to grapple him and use a dagger.
Hopefully I have a shield at least to get close.
The tricky part is getting close enough to grapple. I wonder if you can use a shield to bash him off balance with a dagger in hand.
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"it's just too thick"
Metatron-2020
That made my day😂
One: unscrew pummel
Two: end him rightly
Three: proffit
But sire, the katana hath no pommel!
@@theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 shit
@@theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 Then... we're doomed.
@@theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 We’ll just take off the guard.
I prefer the Holy Hand Grenade fo Antioch
Nice video 👍🏻
In that scenario you have described hand to hand combact will be greatly effective, I believe.
Tought that throwing down you're opponent (supposing you are enough skilled) and try to finish him with blows if you're hands are fully armored or with a rondella/tanto/dagger could be an effective strategy
I think knight vs samurai would end up in wrestling. Both european and japanese warriors were great wrestlers so it would depend on who's the better one. At the end of the day, most of the manuals agree that the best way to take a heavily armored oponent is the holy duo: get 'em to the ground, stab 'em in the face.
if a knight gets hit on the side of the head, from a club with a high amount of mass behind it, You neck will be in danger of breaking, no amount of armor is going to change that.
And mostly important, concussion force goes on you're brain
good luck hitting trained knight square on the side of the head with what is basically primitive wooden club ... he could parry that stick with his gauntlet even without shield ffs ...
@@Asghaad You do know that those big weapons where a thing because they where effective right? They are trained with them. Knights arent some anime super hero that dodges everything.
@@aule10 he doesnt need to dodge everything
he is also professional warrior that trained all his life against arms specifically designed to defeat his armor ... id say he would know how to handle fighting against unwieldy primitive club ...
@@Asghaad besides these "primitive clubs" came in different versions, there's no way in hell he's going to use his Gauntlet to Perry a weapon like that unless he's drunk or stupid AKA like you.
Ty for continuing too fuel my interest in history,armor and everything else,
Great video. However the thing that grabbed my attention was ofc figure of Asuka behind you.
Just get a friend to wear armour and hit him
Short answer: Pretty good chance it would.
Wasn't the short answer "there's a chance the samurai might win."?
@@dejlislive5751 Yeah, you could also say it like that I suppose!
@@dejlislive5751 a chance, yes. But a knight still has a much better chance.
@@overlorddante well that's depend on if firearms and cannon are involved or not
@@chayudyodchit2872 why don't we bring in siege weapons and elephant charges while we're at it.
In Dungeons and Dragons 5e, there's some Fighter subclasses that embody the usual Samurai and Knight archetypes. They can be found in "Xanathar's Guide to Everything" in the form of Cavalier and Samurai - there are some other subclasses with Knight in their name, they may or may not embody the usual characteristics (the Purple Dragon Knights are really disliked, as they seem to be underwhelming (Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide is not well liked in general), but they do have access to some free-ish healing capabilities, expertise in Persuasion, the ability to get allies to get in extra attacks (useful for an archer sort), and can help allies reroll failed saving throws).
Cavalier seems to be based on protecting allies from harm, possibly at cost of self.
Samurai likes to make attacks with Advantage, and likes some Wisdom as well.
This is likely the best "Knight vs Samurai" videos I have seen on UA-cam...maybe in general as well.
I do so hate the myth of "guns owned knights."
Knights and samurai fell out of practice due to social and economic circumstance. They fell to the purse strings, not the firearm. Elite warriors were expensive to maintain, slapping guns into the hands of commoner hires got the jobs of lords done for a fraction of the price.
Bullocks 🚌
well you're right because knight apparently still exists LOL
Against Horseman i think the most effectiv is the Swiss and German Gewaltshaufen pikes helbards crossbowman and arkabustiere later also cannons.
Bildur
@Michael Terrell II ok i dosent know ther formation against kavaleri how are they name it and how works it?
Scottish schiltrons were very good against cavalry as well.
I think best against cavalry are some machine guns and mortars as well as diches and barbed wire but i suppes you dont think of the cavalry when you think WW1.
@@1137kon The Spanish Tercios, one of the most famed warrior formations of Early Modern Era.
@@ikad5229 Tercio, the game changing tactic of the late medieval and early renaissance Europe. (Until someone made a counter for it like any other tactic in history, use it too much then someone will figure out to counter it).
But yeah tercio was so significant that it probably turned the course of european history so much, especially after that point European battles started to grow in numbers of combatants at a fast pace. ( battles became more and more like large scale like in typical East Asia, but with post-renaissance european tech)
Wow I never knew Samurai also good with firearms & rifles, always thought they only fight in melee. Respect this video rich in historical & scientific explanation & content. New subscriber here.
most people do not no this but knight also are professional with firearms as well. commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hand_cannon_for_a_knight_called_a_petronel.jpg. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hand_cannon_in_wrought_iron_called_a_petronel.jpg. there's even a report of them using these type of early firearms during the attacks in Cividale del Friuli when the German knights using hand cannon type gunpowder weapon in 14th century year 1331
What you did not cover was the heat problem of the renaissance knight. Their armor weighed 50 to 60 pounds and they wore a gambeson and lined trousers beneath it, to prevent themselves from being injured by their own amour. Because of the heavy weight they generated much heat and because of the cushioned undergarmends they couldn't dissipate it. Tihs caused a seroius stamina problem to those knights and some of them even died from heat stroke during a battle. I don't think, samurai had a similar probelem, as they were faced often with hot and humid weather conditions during the summer months. So the tactics of the samurai should be to avoid the attacks of the knight until his stamina runs out and then finish him off. Easier said during a battle than done.
It also depends on the actual climate.
if we assume both are highly trained wouldn't a good aimed shot at the face from 2-3m be quite deadly?
but is a "good aimed" shot possible with these "ancient" rifles? you would probably have to hit the helmet pretty much into the center, cause I think a metal bullet would glance off if you miss the up to 90 degree angle?
not to mention that a human being is approaching you constantly (harder to aim at a moving target), knowing that you don't have a nice metal melee-weapon if he gets to you. If the knight knew about the functionality of such a gun he could easily make it harder for you to hit your only chance of winning.
From 2-3 meters, a normal person can close the distance with a knife. You would also always want to aim for the largest part of the target, because even with modern technology, aiming for specific targets is really damn hard.
We're talking single shot weapon which take forever to reload here. If you miss, the guy will be on you before you get the chance to switch weapon. And if the guy is running at you, you just can't aim the weak point of a helmet that fast.
Or perhaps you just draw your wakazashi, tackle the knight from behind and chib him before he can even react. Seems like a better idea than an actual fight
who cares how thick the helmet is... you get hit with that wooden stick - you get a concussion and probably neck trauma, because physics.
Very much so. Also to other parts of your body. Sure the armor absorbs some of the shock, but get hit square in the hands, it is broken fingers alright. Arms? Maybe not broken, but that is gonna hurt like a bitch. Legs? If you walk, it will be with a limp. Chest? In addition to still hurting, maybe denting the amor, good chances of knocking someone down, and that is a death sentence if your opponent wants to.
Can attest to personal experience, a hit to a sugarloaf helm is bloody damn loud. I have extensive experience with firearms and I honestly would put it at the same decibel level as a small cannon. I got blindsided by a polaxe and my ears rang for the better part of the next day. Even though it only put a small scratch on my helm and did nothing else physically I was incapable of fighting for at least 15 secs if not longer. That would have been more than enough time to have a chat with Mr dagger through the eye slit. The same goes for arquebus balls, they may not penetrate but hell is it loud to be in the receiving end. That stun effect will kill a knight far more and more reliability than a lucky visor hit or groin stab.
@Qwerty Absolutely
Yeah i agree ... will european armor protect you from samurai weapons? If a Kanabo (which is a example of a heavy wooden stick :D ) hits you on the helmet... totall NO way ... ^^ i mean it protects to an extend. but as you sayd... As long as the head is moveable (whats kinda a need for practical armor) the concussive force will cause head trauma and possibly break or at least dislocate your neck ^^ ...
Also one of the reasons i think Japanese people liked the stiff, frontheavy Katana as a sidearm. coz we all know, cutting through steel with a blade, you cannot, but if its about getting hit on the head while wearing a helmet the Katana still has quite a bit concussive force (for a sword) .
@@louisvictor3473 The wooden (only) version wouldn't do much to the other parts of the body imho (except fingers of course), and the armor would be mostly fine.
The head would be a different story, the helmet would be fine but you could (possibly) die because of your neck. At the very least a clean hit would be serious trouble. Except with a jousting armor, which often had a "fixed" helmet, with that you would be fine since the energy would be distributed to the whole body. Well, nobody went to war with those though.
LOVELY MACE back there behind you! Where I can buy those, PLEASE??!
Dude. I'm so hyped to see Tim fight Tom.
Who would win:
-A better swordsman with a sword and no armour
-A better grappler without the weapon but with full plate armour
Grapler
But he doesn't need armour tho
He can just trow him on the ground an poke his eyes out
👉👀
@@lukalux5511 that’s grappling.
Luck.
The Yumi bow is powerful and fast and samurai were ridiculously skilled. But, I think they would need hardened, high carbon steel bodkin point arrows to have any chance of penetrating a knights armor, and even then, you are doing precise shots at weak points in the armor. But, the mobility, precision and high rate of fire of mounted samurai archers could be devastating, even if each sortie only managed a few serious wounds. The war of attrition could be effective.
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Would love to see you review each arena fight in the spartacus blood and sand and gods of the arena series for how realistic each component of it is
I would like to see more about the tactics and strategy samurai & knights would have used against each other.
It surely would have been quite similar, as their armours have the same weak points and their jobs was to exploit them.
Hi there ,sharpened weapons cannot damage the knight's armor, however, Samurai have the advantage with kanabo because it can hit any part (100%) of the body surface of the opponent, meanwhile the knight's blades can only hit armpits, eyes, mouth (some 7% of the body), and if you assign a mace or warhammer to the knight he would be just slower and even more vulnerable to be disarmed or attacked,and there is the Tsuruhashi piercing warhammer also add that a knight's helmet have a not-so-good vision and, if all the back area of the yoroi samurai armor was made in hardened leather he would be a little bit faster. Also they were also trained in ground combat with daggers (jiu jitsu), nowadays it is called Judo, changes were made to make it more sporty and less military...(lethal). However, hand-to-hand combat causes thousands of casualties for both sides of any army, making it cumbersome and inefficient. In real life, bows and arrows, ballistae, etc. would be used massively.
So what did I learn in this video : THICC IRON BEETS ALL
Damaging armour is one thing but without some internal padding the force I imagine still would pass through to the body and still cause trauma
I'd be interested to learn how muscle might effect this
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I'm new to this channel, but as a person who enjoys both European and Japanese history this is great topic. I like how you indicated that knights and samurai of different centuries would have different capabilities and fighting styles. How would a Norman knight in mail against a samurai horse archer in O-Yoroi work out? If I'm correct, generally speaking, I believe knights avoided ranged weapons as not befitting their class. With samurai, I recall reading that teppo were fine until the Edo period where they became less used by the warrior class. If I were the knight I think I'd go with 1500s plate armor and a poleaxe on foot and have the fight be in a smaller open ring where my armor would be a more significant advantage and heat exhaustion would be less of a factor. Tactically, I'd try and corner my opponent and rely on the protection of the armor and the power of the poleaxe to win quickly. On horse, a couched lance vs a yari would give me a significant advantage in an open field. European warhorses were much bigger and stronger than the Mongolian horse used by samurai. If I were a samurai in an 1100s setting, mounted archery in an open field would probably give me an advantage. In a 1500s setting, I'd go with Tosei Gusoku with a teppo initially (maybe just for one lucky shot) then a jumanji yari and have the fight in rough, forested terrain during a hot, humid Japanese summer where heat exhaustion and a lower field of view of a knight's helmet can even the odds. Tactically, I'd wear my opponent down, get him nice and hot and get him to constantly deal with flanking attacks and movement, using the jumanji yari to trip or snag him or degrade his armor. I'd utilize terrain and cover to keep tripping as a factor that he'd have to deal with. I recall reading that the sallet and bevor and the armet helmet had poorer downward visibility which became a factor at Tewkesbury. I always thought that the armor and equipment was right for the area and the style of fighting for both knights and samurai.
With a larger conflict in the 1500s, European armies had a sizeable advantage in artillery. I would say that Japanese armies had an advantage in command and control and logistics, especially when Hideyoshi was in direct command. I do recall reading that in Europe, cavalry charges by knights became far less frequent into the 1400s and 1500s with the improvements in infantry training, tactics and equipment to include longbows, pikes and arquebusiers. During the Wars of the Roses, the majority of fighting by knights was done on foot. Cavalry charges by the French from Crecy to Pavia did not work out well in their favor.
Great video!
Hey metatron, do you think your girlfriend can do a Kyoshi warrior (from Avatar the Last Airbender) makeup video? She did that geisha makeup really well and it would be interesting to see her attempt at the Kyoshi warrior look.
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An Asuka statue next to a Templar statue? What a man of CULTURE
Wow this is a pretty cool video, who knew the guy who throws books around knew so much about history, arms and armour? Maybe he should make a UA-cam channel about it?
What I think? WHAT I THINK!? I think I loved this video and it was very educational. Keep them up oh Noble Sensei.
You shouldn't forget that even the knights in the late medieval century used guns. Pistols in particular if they were mounted for a cavalry charge.
yeah but they aren't knight knights and assumed a gunner role. sacrificing armor and leaving mostly breastplates and helmets unlike a samurai being the ancient dante that they are. you also have to consider that the samurai still got the guns in the middle of the era and fought with it till to the half end.
actually, there's are evidence that knight/men at arms used firearms ways before late medieval times or 16th century for example the German knights using hand cannon while attacked cividale del friuli around 1331 (14th century), here the wiki shows that is what early hand cannon for knight and men at arms looked like. commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hand_cannon_for_a_knight_called_a_petronel.jpg. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hand_cannon_in_wrought_iron_called_a_petronel.jpg. knight in 14th century also stated to sometimes used the even earlier firearms like fire Lance here the image shows knight with fire Lance. www.sciencephoto.com/media/722940/view/knight-with-fire-lance
7:43 I find awesome that the Japanese didn't just copy European armour, but added their own personality in that.
It's something that I also like to do in videogames, I don't just blindly copy the meta, I always add a little something of my own to it.
Fully armored European knights was ready to fight other fully armored European knights... therefore most/many was used to carry maces, war hammers, war axes or bec de corbin (etc).... weapons that could be devastating against a samouraï. Meanwhile, I don't think that most samouraïs was use to carry a kanabō in their horse's glovebox. So if meeting an European knight for the first time, I think that I'd try my bow first (from far away) till realizing that it's useless... so I'd switch to a naginata (aiming for the face, armpits or groin, if only knowing about Japanese "weak" armor points)... and in last resort, fancy foot works to try to push him down and finish him off with a tantō (if having to choose among the most common samouraï weapons).
However, if I could pick any weapons among the whole Japanese arsenal, I'd surely take a masakari (axe), chigiriki (flail) or a kanabō (iron stick)... something heavy and blunt to ring some bells.
Just remembered fighting the Armoured Warrior in Sekiro (basically katana VS knight). I won that by (accidently) pushing him off his bridge, which I think is a technique which might have worked in an historical context if used by a Samurai