Why It's Illegal to Resign from the British House of Commons
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4:02
MP : I am resigning
Chancellor of the Exchequer : _Its treason then_
You’re passing me in likes.... *It’s Treason Then*
(edit) holy shit you left me waaaay behind in likes. *I T S T R E A S O N T H E N*
someone post this on /r/prequelmemes for 7 karma
You have more subs than me **ITS TREASON THEN**
Dushyanth First rule of redditclub, don’t talk about redditclub.
“Are you threatening me mr speaker?”..... “swivels through the air kills everyone” lol
If you're wondering why you can't hold one of the two jobs mentioned and be an MP at the same time, this stems from the fact that these jobs essentially make you an employee of the monarch - and the House of Commons was afraid of the Monarch having any sort of influence over MPs.
Shame you can hold two jobs as an mp though
But being a Minister and MP at the same time? Fine.
(Yes, yes, fusion between the legislature and executive is a key feature of the Westminister system, but it doesn't have to be. Plenty of parliamentary democracies allow Ministers to be appointed from outside the parliament, and some compel any MP appointed to Cabinet to give up their seat to a back-up candidate for as long as they are in Cabinet).
The laws are from a time before the Westminster system
The law against armour in parliament is sensible, and still applies. You can't turn up in a bulletproof vest, for instance. Stops a "Red Wedding" type situation where one side just decides to show up and murder the opposition.
You can buy bullet proof suits that look like normal ones it can still happen
@@TinyBearTim "bullet proof" is a strong word
@@SpahGaming actually it's two strong words.
@@SpahGaming they actually work though
@@mrdictator7030 depends, if i have an m16 10 metres away from you and unload a full clip i dont think they will work, a .22 pistol or a 9mm might be fine though of its only a couple of shots
The third person rule is used the US Senate as well. Senators usually say “The senior senator from West Virginia” or “The junior senator from Utah” when referring to a specific colleague
The junior senator from the great state of Texas is a slimy piece of shit
@@cockatoo010 i would request to the honorable gentleman to withdraw the sentences
@@cockatoo010 ORDER !! ORDER !! ORDER !!
Same in the House. All comments directed towards the chair/Speaker, “my friend,colleague” “the representative/Member from [state]” or “Representative/Congressman [lastname]”
Buckfast territory is the best territory.
Alexa, play despacito.
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I nominate you as Crown Steward of Null Island (0 N, 0 W)
Minor nitpick: You *are* allowed to hold office as an MP and be Crown Steward and Bailiff of yadda yadda at the same time. The rule is that if an MP gets appointed to a paid position under the Crown, there must be a by-election in that MP's constituency to give the people a chance to vote them out if they fear the Queen might be trying to bribe the MP.
The loophole is that the MP is not forced to run in that by-election, so someone else gets voted in and the former MP hasn't technically resigned.
Oh, that's very interesting
@@euanstokes2828half... as interesting
There's no way an mp would say another mp smells like beef and cheese. A few years ago an mp called david Cameron "dodgy dave" and got kicked out for the day
That guy could move to Malaysia. There's 2 volumes of Malaysian Politicians Say the Darndest Things and all the idiots who said it kept their jobs.
Seatux he's kept his job, but mostly because his area is strongly labour, and he is labour. He's often known as "the beast of bolsover" because he's reknowned for doing stuff like that.
If only he'd called Mr. Cameron _"The right honourable but nonetheless squarely dodgy member for Witney"_ he'd probably have been able to get away with it...
Kicked out from the Chamber for that days sitting only .
KGD well yeah, that's what i meant, will. Change now
You could also have mentioned the resignation of Gerry Adams in 2011.
He submitted a letter of resignation to the Chancellor but because he was in Sinn Fein he rejected the monachy, and so refused to apply for one of those two positions (the Chilern Hundreds, or the Manor of Northstead).
However the Chancellor just appointed him Bailiff of the Manor of Northstead anyway against his will.
What’s Sinn Fein?
@@samspiano7070 Irish Republicans, who are famously known for their love of the British monarchy.
In the chancellor’s mind, being appointed to one of those positions and resigning must have been the same thing.
@@friedabernasher4680 Essentially, they found a bodge. The rules say you need to accept the position, but Adams wouldn't accept one of the roles, due to his political beliefs. However, because he didn't formally refuse the appointment, it was determined he had de facto accepted it, and so he was no longer an MP. Adams denied that he ever accepted the role, but didn't deny the outcome (i.e. no longer being an MP), so it all kind of worked out.
@@SamAshworth91 In short: An irish variant. The entire thing is silly FWIW, but meh.
“There is no punishment for resigning because you can’t do it.”
That’s literally the most American quote ever, sir.
So true!
There is a reason why Allmight never retires in BNHA (symbol of peace), because if nobody can't replace you, why should you?
Well in German law something like that exists too: it is not forbidden to sell anything to a child under six, there is no law prohibiting it, it's just not possible.
P Schlösser why would a nation forbids selling some innocent products for 6 y. Old kids?
@@rodigoduterte9192 Like I said, it isn't forbidden, it's just not possible
P Schlösser you have a good mind for it, good
"the one everyone forgets" leave our sheep alone!!
*MY HEN WLAD FY NHADAU INTENSIFIES*
I take it you're from New Zealand then?
afootineachworld what are you a weeaboo?
you first
@afootineachworld everyone in your country is a sheep
In the Netherlands there was a politician who recently wore a tactical vest to parlament to demonstrate the poor equipment of the Dutch army. He even wore a tie underneath it. Though it was not illegal, it was definitely frowned upon.
What would a bulletproof vest do against the ocean though? That's the Netherlands #1 enemy after all.
There was an Australian Senator, Pauline Hanson who wore a burqa in the chamber...
@@steven21736 I was about to say "good on her" assuming she was a Muslim and protesting something and then I googled her and now I'm confused.
@@Huntracony it was part of an anti-burqa protest
@@steven21736 Never underestimate a white person's desire to fight for others and kneel for themselves
"You can just not turn up and still get paid, but that wouldn't be great for their political careers."
I dunno, Sinn Fein somehow managed to master that technique.
Sinn Fein don’t turn up and don’t get paid because they don’t take their seats.
@@extrude22 They claim their expenses and have London offices
YOU AGAIN!
@@danielr.l.mccullough600 Wha?
@@szymongorczynski7621 You're the guy with the Merlin No85. I can't remember where I last saw you, but how have you been mate?
"Good riddance to this fetid cesspit of incompetence. I should hope that I need never spend another moment in the prescence of this wretched parliament."
One of the most English sentences ever written.
1:08
you mean "Mr Speaker, the honourable member for Tewkesbury's mother was a hamster and his father smelled of elderberry's"
Lol I get it . Its yarnhub
being from Tewkesbury - and can confirm that the right honourable member for Tewkesbury smells like beef and cheese
EU4 diplomatic scornfull insult
I’ve been to the Palace of Westminster many times,I think you’d be surprised how small both chambers are!
4:09 did i just watch someone crush to death?
Nigga HE MADE IT
shit fuck i don't understand
yeah I saw that too
He made it
Sakar z
Dang my UK political career just ended. Anybody know what I should do?
Use Squarespace to start your new business.
@@SomeRandomDudee like starting a café? What should I serve though?
Jmandawgfan Try Uncle Johnson’s Tricky Tea. I’ve heard it’s all the rage over there.
@@pellaeon1877 I could also serve auntie May's whole wheat grain biscuit!
@@jmandawgfan2533
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North Ireland
*here we GO*
Are you talking about the north of the island called Ireland, Northern Ireland or the north of the Republic of Ireland?
Theres an even more controversial country in Europe
Emil That shit gave me a headache
Northern Ireland is like a kid whose parents are getting divorced atm
4:04 stormont
CoE: I'm about to prolong this man's whole career!
What does that mean?
Regina Tang The original phrase is “I’m about to *end* this man’s whole career.”
@@E1craZ4life I know that CoE bishops get a seat in the upper house, but what does this has to do with this video?
Regina Tang You’re confusing me.
@@reginatang9310 CoE - Chancellor of the Exchequer rather than the church.
That thing about the queen firing the entire Australian government is actually true and the law has been exercised at least once before, when the Governor General of Australia (the person responsible for making decisions on the queens behalf) actually disbanded the sitting government. However today it’s a little bit more tame, though the queen (or governer general) does still have to sign off any new laws or amendments
Lol. That David Cameron burn!
Not sure its really a burn, he left pretty unscathed. Theresa May is screwed right now, and her career is going to be over
bet this is a funny one to think about now
Ah, yes. It is common fact that when typing letters, MPs will use Comic Sans
British MP's are also not allowed to say another MP is lying. Also, MP's can pretty much say things that could land them in court being sued for slander from the floor of the chamber. Parliamentary privildges means they can't be sued.
2:56
That man is clapping, someone arrest him!
"MP's have to change in and out of their armour before going to parliament" haha that would be so cool!
You can't resign if you can't access the internet.
TheRenaissanceman65 he is speaking the language of the gods
@TheRenaissanceman65 I suppose the "sign" in Austin's "resign" is the one in "sign in", hence why you can't resign without internet!
If the first signature is bad, the second signature will be even worse. So might as well make it illegal.
For any non-British people who think that this sounds dumb, most of Britain agrees.
I am British. I don't know anyone who thinks that the system is perfect, but I know that there's sure to be some, thus the "most of Britain" in my comment.
The only thing i see that is dumb is the house of lords still existing even though they don't really have any power. Having laws from 500 years ago is pretty cool to me and adds to the appeal of the country, it's not like many other countries have had democracy and lasted long enough to have weirdness like this. England was born in the 900s and there's laws still in force now from that time, that's cool as shit
Generally how things go really.
Actually this doesn't sound dumb. Apparently this law wasn't transmitted to the colonies with the parliamentary system. In Canada we have MPs resigning all the time, some even resign just after the elections because their party isn't in power, forcing the government to hold partial elections that cost millions to fill their seats.
The suit of armour rule doesn't say which suit of armour maybe it now means wear a military uniform or a bullet proof vest
Canada does the Mr. Speaker thing too and it's hilarious to watch when two rivals really want to go at it but can't.
4:02
MP : I am resigning
Palpatine: "DEWIT"
This was only half as interesting as your usual videos... finally living up to your promises!
Keep em comin!
“somewhat respected job” [citation needed]
Is it illegal to ban squarespace?
NO ITS NOT
Rebellious Hong Kong Mapper _RHKM_ what kind of nation bans Squarespace? There are many sites that harm kid's mind like a drug, a puny streetdrug
@@rodigoduterte9192 r/whoosh
Is it illegal to ban people who didn't get the joke?
No
Mr. Speaker, the honourable member for Tewkesbury smells like beef and cheese.
Wouldnt be able to say that in parliament as it could be libellous/slanderous and thats illegal
Unless it's true...
Mr. Speaker, would my Right Honourable Friend agree with me that the Honourable member from Tewkesbury smells of Stilton and barbecued brisket specifically?
@@fndjfgsdk no then its slander. Its the same as to why you cant describe some one as tired and emotional.
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"The British Parliament has some unique rules. For example, MPs are not actually allowed to speak directly to one another, only to the speaker of the house. They are also now allowed to use each other's names. They therefore only refer to each other in the third person while speaking to the speaker." That's not unique to the British Parliament.
Didn't everyone copy it from British or am I misled?
@@ordinaryperson-my7qr I don't know, but the Canadian Parliament works almost exactly the same as the British Parliament, and I would assume the Australian and New Zealand Parliaments would as well.
@@juliansmith4295 The New Zealand Parliament has done away with some of the older and outmoded traditions. Clapping occurs frequently, members are allowed to refer to each other by name and in recent years they even seem to have relaxed the rules around saying "you" (at least, the Speaker won't usually interrupt an otherwise free-flowing debate just because a member is directly addressing another). Long preambles to questions are also frowned upon at best, and out of order at worst, rather unlike in UK PMQs.
@@richardghp2781 Thank you for the information, Richard. I'm surprised, though, as I would have guessed that New Zealand would be the most likely of the three (Australia, Canada & New Zealand) to hold onto the things we all inherited from the UK.
“This building is know for being blown up, crushed, and blown up again” -HAI 2018
Loved the touch of writing "£0·0·0". XD
There have been more than just the two. Between 1756 and 1799, 11 MPs also left Parliament by accepting the Stewardship of the Manor of Old Shoreham. The Steward of the Manor of Hempholme was an alternative from 1845 to 1865. A number of other offices have also been used in the same way at one time or another.
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Me: *becomes a member of parliament*
Me: cool
Me 3 years later: Can i leave the parliam-
British Goverment: *no*
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3:22 , the place in the photo is an old photo of Peasholm Park, in Scarborough, and in the background you can see the pedaloes, waterchute, and train, all of which are still there today
As Northern Ireland is mentioned:
Is the conflict now flaming up again as Brexit is becoming serious now?
Regards,
some oblivious dude from the European Mainland
To,
Mike
Yes.
Regards, some idiot from Britain.
P.S. please let me come over I'm stuck on the political equivalent of a sinking ship.
Depends if it suits your political objective.
Leavers say no remainders say yes.
Truth is a bit, but not too much. Mostly has to do with the devolved parliament not sitting for ages now
Not yet, but it almost certainly will. Putting the customs border between NI and ROI will upset republicans, and putting it between NI and GB will upset unionists. So far May has insisted that neither will happen, and it's kept people happy, but it has to go somewhere.
Not really yet. A few things have happened, nothing major.
@@ictoan1880
Bon Voyage and good riddance.
Actually, not turning up to parliament doesn't seem to damage your political career at all. The MP for my area (Sir Paul Beresford) has turned up to less than 1/3rd of all votes and doesn't respond to letters because his primary job is a dentist.
He has been my constituencies MP for 23 consecutive years.
What a nice tradition, drinking my afternoon tea while watching a half as interesting video.
Accurate video, even to the picture of Kinderland boating Lake at "Northstead" an area of Scarborough in North Yorkshire. Sadly Kinderland closed many many years ago. Memories of my children playing there. Sadly as far as I can tell now closed.
"Auntie May's naughty whole green wheat biscuits" Nice Theresa May joke
0:12 WE GOT PARTIALLY REMEMBERED! WHERES THE SHEEP SHE NEEDS TO SEE THIS?!
3:06 omg, i used to read those books as a kid, especially Mr. Men!
The whole "not-showing up thing being bad": clearly, the writer hasn't heard of the Sinn Fein. The Northern Irish people consistently vote them into office, just for them not to ever show up
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT IRELAND!!
Potatoes.
Also, North eastern USA is the real Ireland. They have 10x more Irish than Ireland itself.
it's a potater
Darren Atm being 0.015% irish doesn't really count, buddy.
@@tipperary4525 Eh at least you still got names like O'Neill, or Rosie O'Donnel
You mean Northern Ireland
When the MPs from the SNP clapped in the House of Commons once... My god, that was a tense day! :P
These videos are awesome. I click the video not knowing a thing about the topic, and when it ends, I know a lot about these random, interesting topics.
In Italy a MP can resign any moment but the parliament must vote to approve the resignation. If it votes against resignation he cannot leave.
I didn’t forget about wales. I gotchu welsh peeps.
Potatoes thanks
Where?
Edit:
Are they the people who can't get to a rugby world cup final?
Dam thats a large dam.
Whoops wrong video
Spilling over, I see.
The British parliament is a big DAMnation.
Damn!
@@hadinossanosam4459 LOL
Zoë Nightshade wants to
*know your location *
0:13 the one everyone forgets about. I asked people where my home place was (Wales) abroad and they had no clie
+1 for the transition into the squarespace advert
You can't bring your sword into the House of Commons, either. You have to hang it on your hook. (So, if you had a single hand and a hook and hung it on the hook, would that be legit?) The distance between the frontmost benches is two swords lengths, and you are also supposed to stand behind the red line in front of those forward benches. No duelling while making laws for the Queen!
Just a note, 92 of the Lords ARE elected by a body of experts in professional fields.
true, but not by the general populace, and as such still do not count as elected
>British Politics
>Experts
Pick one.
And very few actual hereditary Peers sit who are selected by voting among themselves when a seat becomes vacant .
And some are there simply because they _really_ believe in an invisible sky wizard.
By that reasoning the US President doesn't count as elected as it is only the members of the electoral college that vote for the position rather than the general populace.
That QR code at 0:18 was too good 😂
How the hell do you find these subjects?! This was great!
Boris Johnson recently resigned (today is June 15th, 2023) and he was appointed as the Crown Steward And Bailiff Of The Three Hundreds Of Chiltern.
The UK’s governmental system seems like such a mess.
That is what happens when you let a system run for 803 years, tweaking it as and when needed. Although nothing excuses the fact that MPs get paid anything
Not as much as the US one.
Apart from brexit it’s fine
Tbh, it's rife with tradition and a shitty voting system, but apart from that, it's generally alright
The US's system isn't as old and it's even weirder.
This aged like milk!
Speaking of the "no clapping" rule, the Scottish Parliament ends up having something similar - I don't believe there's a rule against it, but typically to show approval during a speech MSPs will bang their desks very, very loudly (but at such a frequency that the speaker can still be heard).
Also, the clapping rule isn't really true.
Use metric.
SpaceOrca thanks
SpaceOrca m8
SpaceOrca freedom units til I die
Yeah
Yeah. Or both. But metric should be the standard.
This sounds really daft, but it’s pointless to pass a law to make resignations legal when you can just use a weird system and then spend that time drafting a law to do something more productive.
British parliamentary politics is super weird and strange, but really fun. The voting is done in one of two ways, by shouting or by walking through one of two lobbies, physically. If a bill is unanimous, everyone can shout ‘aye’ when the speaker asks them to and if no one or nearly no one shouts ‘no’ when the speaker asks then the vote is passed (it’s quick which is why it’s done.) if that fails and both ayes and nos have a large shout, then the speaker calls for a division. A bell rings, the division bell, when a division is called. That gives 8 minutes for MPs to walk through one of two lobbies to indicate their vote. You might ask ‘don’t the government, who assign MPs their offices indirectly through giving certain parties certain areas in Westminster, put the offices of MPs from other parties further away so they have to run to vote?’ The answer is yes, the government makes sure it’s party’s offices are near the chamber so they have less distance to travel for votes. All the pubs in Whitehall (the area around the palace) have division bells in too, so MPs can go for a pint and run to the House to vote when needs be. It’s a stupid, archaic system, but it serves those who operate it so it’s stuck. This is just one of the many random things that makes British politics so funny
Most of those rules at the start apply in Australia. Except you don't quite tall to the Speaker, they just seem to address everyone. Or maybe they do address the speaker, but it's only a technicality so they don't bother looking at them?
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how dare make fun of northern ireland
im gonna stir up drama in the youtube comments
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I don't want to be pedantic here, but the photo you used of the queen is a photo of the queen of New Zealand. The queen of England and the Queen of New Zealand are the same person, but the photo you used there, with the Māori insignia and the silver fern is her official New Zealand portrait.
how do you come up with these random video ideas and manage to make them so interesting to watch
If you're interested in the ever so polite and civilised process that the house of commons is, Jay Foreman has a great video on it :'D
"Mr. Speaker, the honourable member for Tewkesbury smells like beef and cheese." LMAO I'M DEAD
I looked up who the MP for Tewkesbury is, and based on what he looks like I could imagine he does smell like beef and cheese.
He's getting the name wrong. It's actually The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
So many little hidden references in there that many won't even understand, absolutely amazing!
This aged like a Britain.
Here because Boris Johnson just “resigned”
Literally the only ads i dont skip are yours
The Chancellor of the Exchequer is the UK's finance minister and also an MP (by convention).
video was unavailable :/
1:22 Not strictly true. They're allowed to clap at the last PMQs for a PM before they resign from office between elections. For example, Sir Tony Blair got a round of applause at the end of his last PMQs from all sides of the house.
Technically not really. The Speaker just didn't want to enforce the rule to stop applauding.
@@retched It's still not true is my point.
The Red One and Green One, Ey. I see Christmas is a major theme here.
That last part is completely wrong. An MP would simply not run in the next election or be outvoted by an opponent. Elections are no more than 5 years apart, and snap elections can mean even they are sometimes more common. Such a simple concept yet you got it horrendously wrong.
People also keep forgetting that in general elections, we vote for local people and not the prime minister/opponent. The prime minister/opposition is just the leader of the party.
I think most people already know that, it's basic stuff
@@eruno_ it's surprising how many people don't. I've seen people often ask who the people are on the ballot.
@TheRenaissanceman65 I mean, he *is* talking about the house of commons. You know.....the elected politicians
technically it is. but this is a comment section. i can comment about my dick, keep scrolling if you have nothing to add to the conversation
Stupid system. If someone from abroad is better, why can't it be possible to vote for them?
0:47 - it's _believed_ to be? 🤷♂️
Experts remain divided.
The Queen once got into trouble with US Customs and Border Protection when she was flying to Kentucky to see a horse ranch and watch horse racing (she loved horses). The customs officer wouldn't let her into the USA without a passport, detaining her while she called the secretary of state to explain to the customs officer that as Queen she does not have a passport because British passports are issued in her name.
Congratulations on being smarter than the US Customs and Border Protection!
0:58 that’s called the Westminster system. Same one Canada & the rest of the commonwealth uses.
"Somewhat respected job."
*BLASHEMY!!!!!!!!*
i was kind of expecting you would get a lot of things wrong in this video, but you didn't actually from my observations, i wouldn't even blame you if you did, british politics is just so complicated
0:57 Miss you, Mr. Speaker. The Brexit Saga wouldn't be the same without you.
‘the one everyone forgets about’
*cries in welsh’
I've lived in the UK my whole life, and I never knew this. Thanks Wendover!
the fact that 4 years ago was 4 prime ministers ago 🤣
And one queen ago…
@@mutfolLizzie's in a box. ❤
LOVE the fade out!!!
the letter mentions twitch but there is no link anywhere
:thonking: