To The Moon: A Love Story where you help a man die
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- A game where you travel backwards through a dying man's memories to help them find peace
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I loved playing this, and I hope you guys do too :)
I don't think I'm ready to watch this again..
long video moment
So many references to people crying. I'm so eager to see what masterpiece you've brought me today
More Irish bunger
Only if you fly me to the moon
This game is the definition of:
Oh yeah, It’s all coming together now.
Except you’re uncontrollably crying the entire time.
This is unsettingly accurate.
1k likes but only 2 comments
@@zaradraws no, now 4
Most accurate way of putting it, yeah
yeah that seems about right
You dont know how much dopamine shot through my body to see "to the moon" in my notifications again after so many years
God same, this was like whiplash
Same omg I loved this game the last time I played it :)) so happy to see him play it
Same
seratonin
Literally one of my favourite games, I was so glad to see RT play this
This game is one of those that wraps you up in a blanket of comfort and humor like a burrito before beating you with a stick of feels.
Stick? It's a fúcking bat..
@@andrewacacia9851 With *NAILS!*
@Christopher Garringer no, not teeth, glass shards
No not just nails no not just teeth no not just glas just combine all of em and your good to go
just like drawn to life chapter 2
I just started crying again cause I realized he only wanted to go to the moon after River died. After he lost her. He didn’t understand why but it was because they said they would meet eachother on the moon. He just really missed his late wife. Oh God the tears
It was the only part of Johnny that was really left. Everything else was Joey. The man River married wasn't really the one she met and made that promise with.
Johnny's wish to go to the moon wasn't for him. It was For River. To finally keep his promise, even if it was only in his head.
It’s so sad, both these comments.
So, something big with Autism and ADHD is what's called associative memory. We understand and communicate better through sharing our own experiences, showing things we like, and in general, we learn better by presenting things side by side rather than explaining directly. Think we show things by how they feel to us rather than directly stating them (or when we do directly state things, they seem too blunt).
One of the major features of To the Moon is the jumping back mechanic. Where in order to jump back in Johnny's life, you have to connect back to a previous memory. Furthermore, the way that River communicates is a lot through association. The rabbits? She was trying to connect herself to the rabbits and to the moon. She was trying to communicate to Johnny through how her own memory worked.
And in the end? She succeeded. A lot of the early jumping points in the game were due to the rabbit and the platypus, both of which were associated with her. The rabbits were crucial in trying to get Johnny to the final point. Furthermore, the only reason why Johnny wanted to go to the moon in the first place is because of River, because in her own way she kept reminding him of what that meant, even if she never communicated that directly.
In the end, while she wasn't alive to know what she had done, River successfully was able to reach Johnny and remind him just enough to know what she was talking about. Literally, her way of thinking and communicating was how they were finally able to reach each other to the moon in the end.
*throws my phone across the room and starts sobbing* I HAVENT EVEN FINISHED THE VIDEO WHY DID THIS HIT ME SO HARD
I feel like 'we' isn't really true. I'm autistic and I don't really do this.
@@Maphteah i'm fairly sure that there are specific parts of the autistic spectrum which have people who do this, for example i have autism and do this a lot
Is that why I do that a lot? God, that makes so much more sense to me, that’s why I think I’m terrible at explaining and compare things to other things
GOD I JUST GOT IT. HE WAS SO OBSESSED WITH RIVER'S WEIRDNESS AND INDIVIDUALITY BECAUSE HE NEVER HAD IT HIMSELF. HE WAS JOEY AND LIVED JOEY'S LIFE, NOT HIS OWN. SHE LITERALLY HAD WHAT HE WANTED. THAT'S WHY HE DIDN'T READ HER DIAGNOSIS, HE DIDN'T WANT TO THINK OF HER AS PART OF A GROUP. HE WANTED HER TO REMAIN SPECIAL, INDIVIDUAL. I'M CRYING DUDE.
I JUST STOPPED CRYING DONT DO THIS TO ME
Might want to get your caps lock checked.
IS THAT ALSO WHY THEY ALWAYS CALLED IT “HER CONDITION” BECAUSE HE NEVER WANTED TO COME TO TERMS WITH IT???
@Satsuki Shirotae No, it's called being obnoxious
I am glad I didn't scroll down one bit further and read this. Think of the spoilers, man.
I remember when I played the game and just as Johnny flatlined Origin popped up on my screen saying "Your Wifi has been disconnected" and I went from the verge of tears to bursting with laughter because of how horribly timed that was
thought id let you know i was on the verge of crying and you made me laugh thanks
@@tbmprodutionsjason5585 Good to know someone had the same reaction as me
Johnny is a robot confirmed?
@@scooote9478 perhaps
Classic EA
4 years ago I dated a girl and she had autism and then 2 years ago she committed suicide because no one could understand how to deal with someone who had a slight social and learning disability and this gameplay just makes me think of her and all the wishes she had that she will never be able to see come true. I wish people would know how to handle other with disability because you can't just treat them like they're normal you need more patience for them and be very understanding of them
I'm sorry for your loss. I'm dyspraxic and my sister is epileptic. I agree with you- more people need to care more about the community and the 'disabled'. I know people who have either sadly ran-away and never seen again or just popped in and out of my life and wonder where they are- and how they are doing. I often pray for them and hope for their return in my life. Childhood friends last a lifetime no matter who they are.
this made me cry I can't explain it, but it happened, hope life is going well for you.
@@Stafarns going ok but it's been tough to move on haven't dated anyone since but I finally found her grave and I'm going to make a visit tomorrow
@@CptPandy-tj9ty you and her will have my prayers
Although I bet some of them just want to be treated like normal people not some other being.
"For River" turns to "To the Moon", but going "To the Moon" has always been about finding River meaning that song is and always be hers even in this new context
I just stopped crying when I saw this comment. Thanks, im crying again
i just wish there would have been a way to make them meet at the moon without altering john's memories but this is beatuiful too
As someone with autism who was so horribly stigmatized that my parents never told me my own diagnosis, this game made me cry like a baby AND was incredibly relatable. "Eventually, with practice you can imitate social norms"
I only found out about my diagnosis at 11 when my dad offhandedly said something about the traits returning. Cue a ten year struggle to find out WHAT it was in the first place. Also was diagnosed at 4.
If only I was wealthy enough to get a diagnosis. I'm 99% sure I'm on the spectrum, but I can't exactly diagnose myself.
Did relate a lot, though.
@@Arkansym I believe self-diagnosis is valid, at the end of the day if you use it to become a part of a community and to help you understand yourself better, where’s the harm? Obviously it doesn’t have any legal weight but it’s still very helpful as a personal thing
@@miss-laea
It means a lot that you're encouraging inclusiveness. That said, a few I know would disagree with you, saying it's disrespectful and offensive to self diagnose.
@@Arkansym I don't agree. It's none of their business, and saying it's offensive implies that being autistic is a sort of VIP club or something. Plus, it disregards that some people cant afford to pay for medical consultations, or the biaises of the medical community who sometimes fails to diagnose adult women, queer people or other people that don't fit the image of what's typically associated with autism. So saying that you absolutely need a diagnosis to "truly" be autistic is just false, possibly a bit misinformed, and strikes me as the same type of people who say "non binary people/people who use neopronouns make the LGBT community look bad".
Like, self diagnosing as autistic doesn't really have any advantage to be faked, so most people who do it genuinely think they are neurodivergent. I mean they could be wrong but they don't really do it out of malice. So they COULD say its misinformed (which often times discredits the person's own judgment of their own person but go off ig) but offensive??? I just don't see it
I'm not autistic but i'm pretty active in the community so this is based off of multiple stories by autistic people and just basic logic. Thus, I would need more to believe it's offensive to the community AS A WHOLE and not just to the people that are saying that. Sorry for the long text lol
The most interesting part of this when watching it live was how, once the topic of autism came up in game, the chat became filled with people telling stories about their experiences having it.
RT’s community is just so magic
Could just be me but even when I was a kid autism was never a tabboo topic. Might just be personal bias since every friend I had was on the spectrum or otherwise afflicted, but still.
@@jamesmccomb9525 yeah that would be it. In my school, everyone bullied the "weird kid" and I was told not to talk about it.
@@notoriousgoblin83 That's wild. Weird kids at my school were always loved because they were the most interesting people to hang around. I was weird back then too and the older kids would pop by and talk with me when nobody else would. Hope the culture spreads to other places.
I'm on the spectrum and even in elementary school I was bullied so much that I had to be taken out of school and do homeschooling. It is definitely something that varies through different regions but in my experience it seems that the stigma is more common than not.
The end of the story is so sweet until I remembered that nothing of it was real. Joey and River still died. Nothing changed. It all only happened in Johnny's head. For him it felt real but reality never changed. I know he probably died happy but the thought of it just makes me tear up.
Y'know, I get caught up in some existential debates in my head about these sort of things. As much as we know how things ""truly"" ended, it doesn't affect Johnny's new vision of reality. For Johnny, this is what happened. This was his life and nobody would be able to tell him otherwise; Call it denial of reality or whatever but in the end what proves you we're not living the exact same situation?
Sometimes, when people start trying to freak me out by saying "It'S aLl An IlLuSiOn", I just think to myself it's a damn good simulation and it's my reality now. So yeah. I know the good ending technically isn't canon to anybody else, but it is for Johnny. And that's what they were sent to do.
They’d still be dead, regardless if the experience was real or not. It’s how it made him feel that counts
Its sad to me when i realize River had been trying to remind Johnny of his old memories, only for him to suppress them with meds. Then when River finally dies, she tries reminding him of the Moon and Joey one last time, but instead Johnny simply rewrote his memories, truly erasing all knowledge of his past with his brother and Rivers final wishes. Its wierd though because this was the only way he could die happily, and if thats truly the reality he remembers, its about as real as it could be at least to him.
Johnny died happy.....river died trying to remind him of their first time and never got the satisfaction she wanted before death. She died sad and unfulfilled. :'(
Right? like its so bittersweet, things could have been so good if only that one spot on the stairs didnt happen; but then again their lives were still pretty good in reality bc I nearly cried seeing it all go away anyways
“I cant.. do it.. not again.. i’m not.. strong enough..”
"if we do it together, you won't have to be"
@Egg Egg egg egg Perhaps you could provide that for us?
@Egg Egg egg egg Can I offer you a nice egg in this trying time?
Bruhhh I think he still wanted to be called "Johnny" because it's a combination of "John" and "Joey"
This was the first game to really make me cry. Like, full-blown sob. That moment where River asks "what if you get lost?" and Johnny says "we'll regroup on the moon!" made me break down for a good five minutes. You spend this whole game not knowing why Johnny wants to go to the moon, but realization hits you like a sledgehammer. And it's so unexpected, it sucker-punches you while your guard is down.
He barely remembers that part of his life because of the beta-blockers, but that one thing still pushed through. After River died, he wanted to see her again. And somewhere, deep in his memories, he preserved a tiny scrap of that night. When he promised that if they couldn't find each other, they'd reunite on the moon.
it just hit me after so many years that the smell of roadkill worked bcoz john's childhood memories smelled like his dead brother jesus christ
god
Oh fuck dude
How dare you
*Me, ready to watch this again and try not to cry*
"I'm a brave boy!"
*Gets to the Joey part*
"Not a brave enough boy FOR THIS"
Gotta embrace it
Literally same
bruh it wasn't even joey for me. I was torn apart when I thought they deleted river. Like, devastated
I just used my masculinity powers
love the Jontron reference
I love how rts content is one half god of chaos and the other half is just sappy games that make us cry
I listen to a short hike to relax
Like Bugsnax
It’s great.
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
Sometimes both!
RTGame, there is a sequel to “To the Moon” called “Finding Paradise” and even a third game called “Impostor Factory.” Each is as brilliantly written as “To the Moon” and just as meaningful.
WAIT YHERE IS????
@@akeera_ did he play it ?
@@perfectpinterestgarden unfortunately no
@@dimitri7615 We gotta keep subscribing
@@Zakronyx obviously.
„Why does his childhood smell like death?“
his brother died when he got hit by a car and he was there, so he repressed those memories with drugs apparently
@@intrepidferret6704 that wasn‘t an actual questiok
@@e.7504 oh, sorry. my mistake i didnt see the quotes, i'm quite tired rn
@@intrepidferret6704 it happens
@@intrepidferret6704 Understandable. Crying makes you tired
*sees title* "Oh no I'm going to be SOBBING like the last time I saw someone play through this" 😭😭😭😭😭
....I was right, I'm a mess even after all these years 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Sang along to the song as well IT HURTS 😭😭😭😭😭
First time watching it, I can't stop sobbing 😭😭
I started crying near the beginning. Got some break in the middle. Then was just a waterfall of tears by the end.
It's been years, but the darn trigger words still get me.😭😭😭😭😭
Mark's playthrough left a lasting psychological effect on me goddammit..
I REMEMBER CRYING OVER THIS GAME YEARS AGO
Yeah wow, I wasn't expecting to see him play a game that's nearly a decade old. Then again it was a great game if not a bit dated.
@@ThomasPlaysTheGames Them emotions still Hit the same way though.
Same 😭😭😭😭
Pc only?
Edit: I hope he'll play Charlie Murder next.
@@AlienFan25 besides Nintendo switch and mobile (both android and IOS), yeah.
Never realized the Make-A-Wish Foundation was so advanced
And for some reason works for the government
This is the Final-Wish Foundation
I don't think I'd let Make a wish in my brain.
As a kid on the spectrum, I heard the language used and _immediately_ knew what they were referring to. Stuff like “developmental disorder” is such a common way to dance around the diagnosis that it didn’t even register to me that someone may see that as a bad way to describe it, but it really is. God, this whole game got me feeling the feels
Maybe you were too young at the time but in the 2000s/early 2010 the term "autistic" (as well as every sex/gender term) were pretty much only used for insults and jokes in entertainment. The fact that they used "neurotypical" is shocking to me.
as soon as isabella said "neurotypical" i started piecing it together
@@lotus_flower2001 it’s odd how fast language can change huh? “Gay” used to be a way to say “merry”
God, that “River being deleted” scene was more heart wrenching than anything I’ve ever experienced...
Her bad explanation and mention of "legal obligation" annoyed me too much for that to work though.
@@Tasorius I think it felt about right. They are paid to meet the brief at the end of a persons life, every job they take is going to have twists and turns because that’s what life is a massive set of twists and turns. If the brief was just make the guy happy, at the end all they’d have needed was to find that at adult hood he needed cash to save his wife and the house, but the person who paid for this guy to be happy, paid for those that knew him to see him “get to the moon” as a display that he achieved that happiness. That he died “happy” getting his wish. And at the end of the day the people who sue, are those left behind, it’s their closure that matters in the end rather than Johnny’s as far as the business is concerned.
As Johnny can’t say if he had a preference for a life where he got to nasa or the one he lived a wholesome life spent with his wife from teenage years through senior years, he can’t tell them because he’s dead. What the loved ones can say is he paid to have the memories that got him to the moon.
So she did the best she could which is a natural thing to do in a dilemma and took a risk to meet the specifications they signed up to provide and kept the man his happy memories with his wife by pushing there dating life until after he was set up to get to the moon, solving his need to be “grounded” by giving him a false life of his brother living, the thing he actually needed.
She gave him what he asked for, she gave him what he needed, and gave him as much of the happy moments from his real life as she felt she could, moved them further along the timeline sure. But kept most of them as close as she could.
If your payed to build a person a house on land but you find-out that the person your making that house for would prefer to live in a house boat. The people paying for the house would still have the right to Sue you if you gave the person a house boat, no matter if you made that person the happiest man in the world that would live there in eternal bliss thanks to it being a house boat.
But where many things if a producer of a thing thinks the client would prefer it a different way you can try to persuade them to change the contract and get them the product they were want most. This job of a last wish at the end, comes at a point when there is 0% leeway on persuading a person to change there mind, because they are literally on deaths door. As such meeting the brief especially in a trip where others are going to come in and be witness to having met the brief, is as important to the businesses continued use if not more so than one mans best outcome.
Or if your not taking it as a business approach but as a doctors approach if a patient has DNR and the patient dies minutes before the patients relatives can arrive to say good bye? Do you follow that DNR(Do not Resuscitate) or do you having spoken to the loved ones heard they are on there way break that contract to give the patients loved ones a chance to say good bye damming the consequences to your self. She chose to try her best to follow the DNR by making sure he didn’t die before they got there, with as much work from her as she could. But felt she would have to follow the DNR if it came to it Neil felt the patient would flat line any second and that they should prep to resuscitate the patient when he does. She was trying to do something that he felt would just leave an expensive bill and a corpse. When resuscitation would be cheaper and make everyone happy.
He didn’t need nasa to die happy, he didn’t need the moon. But that’s what he paid for. So that’s what they had to provide. But what showed she cares truly about making the client/patient die happy is that she made sure he got both what he asked for, what he actually needed solving to help with his heart ache and kept as much of the happiness from his actual life they knew of being his wife at his experiences with her towards marriage.
After all she didn’t remove the child hood first meeting but made the guy keep his promise of if they don’t meet up next year at the same time and date, they could still meet up on the moon.
The only risk she took was on Johnny’s Belief that even in his wildest dreams could he believe that his Autistic Wife could become an astronaut, could he ever imagine her that way, imagine her actually meeting the promise and going to the moon.
Now do I think Eva should have relayed her plan to Neil rather than declare she was following the contract. Absolutely. That was all Drama for plot convince. But do I think she did the right thing trying to both for fill the contract and do what’s best for her patient and his loved ones by getting them all some closure. Even if it is an illusionary dream of one. Yes.
Should Eva have asked Neil to rely solely on “trust” as she asked whilst she placed the memories of Johnny and Rivers marriage at risk by having them meet back up as astronauts?
Should she have risked that love life based around the question of could Johnny imagine his wife ever becoming an astronaut. Especially being that it relied on a man unwilling to learn about his wife’s problems directly to imagine her doing things on a small 1% of people can do.
Should Eva have risked the memory of his wife on a hope that he could see a Autistic Women, the quirky weird shy girl reaching the stars to chat with the light houses up there, rather than being grounded to use one from the planet. As reality had made it.
Do I think her comment “He can always find another River” was completely off the mark and soul crushing to hear, especially when she was banking on a dream that he could visualise his River making it to the moon with him. 100%. That was painful to hear even after knowing what she was hoping to happen.
But that’s Soap drama, her believing he needed the idea of joey living to be happy as “Johnny” rather than a bad substitute for “joey” more than he needed river, feels bull, but knowing that she was betting that Johnny would write River back into his story at some point or follow the promise and meet at the moon. Was nice, but was a gamble, that to me feels like she bet a lot on Johnny believing in his wife’s abilities to be special.
And makes it seem Eva holds the imaginary above reality, or contracts over patient happiness. I think she did the right thing, but I am left unsure if she did it for the right reasons or not. She cares, but if Neil’s plan might have been a safer route to a happy customer/patient even if he wasn’t willing to try changing enough about a clients life to get them to where they paid to have got to/ declared they wished to be. He wanted to secure in the memory what bits of Johnny’s life that were happy in reality over an imaginary one and i can say that makes good sense too.
Eva just tried to get needs, wants and reality, while risking reality as a possible cost. While Neil was wanting to remove want to secure needs and reality, or possibly only reality as we never hear his plan.
But it would have been nice to see how it turned out if they had followed Niels plan as well, or if Eva hadn’t learned enough about the relationship that she failed…but I might just like stories with multiple endings too much. And what ifs. This was still a great True ending to it that made me teary eyed and even sobbing at parts. So kudos to the story. (Sorry about this I ramble while thinking and watching this made me feel like I had a lot to unpack and work out in my head while trying to think what I felt about it all. Sorry about directing my thoughts your way when you probably don’t want or need to hear them. Just need some where to project my thoughts at. My apologies for the inconvenience.)
@@mibusuzaku I read it, and it makes sense.
Eva ruined the whole ending for me by mentioning the "legal obligation" though. I was annoyed at the end instead of feeling anything else.
"Going to the moon" being a part of the contract had no meaning, as those words meant something else. But even after Eva found the real meaning of those words, she interpreted the original words literally.
Maybe because she had to, in which case the laws that made that happen are the problem...
@@Tasorius I personally accept attempting to do as much as possible to meet a clear visible stance on meeting the brief, as shitty laws, and the need to for fill the contract as written is just something I accept as truth in this world. You can in most cases try and persuade a client after understanding what they want that what they have signed for isn’t what they want and have the contract adjusted with there consent. But at death’s door the product they’re producing has to be released to the person then or never. And never means loved ones suing them for not for filling the contract, not like they can get more time on someone who’s dead.
But what I dislike about Eva’s text to Neil is the “and there’s always another river” speech. As they discovered that the moons actual meaning is being with River, her declaring that makes me sad. Because she was willing to risk his actual want of a happy ending where he lived happily till the end of his days with River. To cover her ass by risking that love for the contractual obligation to get him to the moon. I can understand her need to cover her ass but saying she could replace river with any other was what irked me about her.
I can understand her need to do it to help the business. What I can’t understand is her flippant see of “Rivers meaning to Johnny”.
Johnny needed his brother alive to get to live a life of his own choosing and feel like his heart was broken and irrelevant in the long scheme as river had been pushing to help him do, recover from that loss.
He asked to go to the moon, to cover her ass she took that to be the desired life Johnny would have taken of his “own choosing” as that’s the only path they knew he had ever asked for. It’s a literal interpretation but not a bad one. So she went about saving the brothers and direct him towards the life she felt he had chosen “being that’s what he signed up to have as his choice”.
But the fact she was willing to dismiss the actual interpretation the reality he tried to live, and possibly did, in parts, the facts that what he wanted was to have been with River at the end. Is what I dislike about Eva’s speech.
I would have just made sure the twin didn’t die and had a few NASA connections to hope the guy got to see the moon but place more assuring on him getting the money to keep both the house and his wife, as the moon in truth was being with her. So if he got rich by “going to the moon” yay nice ticks. But if not had just thrown a lottery win or something at him so he could keep the house and her…his actual moon.
So what I’d have wanted in act 3 is Neil and Eva debating and the player deciding on what to prioritise the contractual literal interpretation now they know how to do it and hope that river exist as well when pushing that as the priority.
Or prioritise the River relationship and place only minor pushes beyond saving the brother. To see if that gained the literal interpretation via dream pushes such as going to the moon movie but making the priority being getting the man the money so the wife doesn’t have any reason to push him towards saving the place she loves over her own life.Whilst declaring the iffy situation it might place themselves and their business in at the risk that others can declare they didn’t meet contract specifications, for the “happy ending/last wish”.
But yeah contract laws can be damn shitty at times.
And having Eva make a moral choice for her own benefit and what the specifications were, whilst risking the clients actual wishes. Does feel like a shitty drama pull rather than a puzzling dilemma she wants the player and Neil to trust she has a solution to.
Which I can accept is a reason to be upset with the decision on how to end the game.
@@mibusuzaku The worst part was the quotation marks around the name "River", and the hypocrisy of her having a problem with Neil's apparent apathy earlier on, and then being far more cold than he ever was...
When I hear To The Moon and RT together I think that he used so many explosives he went flying but nope it was just depression
hahaha
ha
I thought he crashed the channel point economy again lmao
@@thearchivist169 TumbleCoin Launch Day: Like 2 days ago
Watched Markiplier play this years ago, made me cry like a baby then, and it made me cry like a baby again now. God DAMN what a good game
Played myself in 2012-2013. RTGame restore those memories. Goddammit...
sadly not many plays the minisodes, a bird story and finding paradies.
Only one that did was Cryaotic but.....well things happend with him
I saw this pop up in my suggested and thought it was that for a second. Oh the nostalgia.
I feel so sad reading this kind of comment... Watching a let's play is not the right way to experience such a story. If you haven't already, I suggest you play the sequel. I garantee you will cry as much ^^
I feel horrible for forgetting a lot of it, although parts of his playthrough are coming back to me. im about positive i either cried greater or equal to amounts of tears compared to the first time watching it though
Kinda funny how the main reason Johnny didn't go to the Moon until they removed River was the same reason he wanted to go in the first place:
It was always about finding River.
You know it's beautiful when RT mutes mic to cry
I was thinking about that. There's no way Dan wasn't crying throughout the video, yet I'm crying a river.
I'm late to this and also sorry for ruining the moment but I remember watching the vod and RT was actually talking a bit over that one cutscene at the end, it seems he edited that out which is nice since you can appreciate the cutscene more.
don’t you remember? You have to kick him REALLY hard to make him cry.
As someone on the spectrum, it feels weird looking at a character on the spectrum, and recognizing just how similar I was, and how strange it must've been for someone else watching it from the sidelines. Even now, when I feel like I'm "normal", it still feels like I can relate to river more than anyone else, whether real or fictional... Being on the spectrum isn't weird or strange, you can be a happy and normal person... But if you're not on the spectrum yourself, it's just impossible to understand what goes through someone's head.
If the entire world were made of bricks, and all the facts and knowns were perfectly square, we can easily make sense of that. We can build a solid structure of memories from that and rarely forget anything, but anything uncertain or unknown, like the minds of people who aren't like us, are things we really struggle with. It's like they're bricks in a totally different shape. It's not that we don't want to understand others or learn to be more adaptive; it's that we can't.
Y'know I'm also on the "spectrum" and I can relate, it's such an alientating feeling not being able to completely relate to others as others would relate to me.
I've had a few friends on the spectrum, they're all really good people.
Im not on the spectrum, and I personally don't know anyone who is, but I have read a lot about it, so I somewhat understand.
Well said, by the way
I see it as intruction manuals kinda. We "off bricks" have a different manual that makes sense for us. Our logics.
The trouble starts when square brick people expect their square brick buildings and expect us to just understand.
Dont say your square brick manual is more logical. Listen to what is logical to us. Adjust. We still all want the same building.
@@Crystalitar Thank you.
Holy crap, this unlocked my memories and opened the floodgates all over again. I still remember how to play For River on the piano. One of the greatest RPG Maker games ever made.
eyy I also learned how to play it!
For River Piano Gang
Hey, I learned it, too
In case you haven't already been told, there's some stuff that you should play between this and Finding Paradise. To The Moon includes 2 minisodes that take place between To The Moon and Finding Paradise, plus theres another game called A Bird Story that was made by the same person that you should probably play between them as well, for reasons you'll understand once you play it.
List of games to cry:
Update, there’s a new game in the series called Impostor Factory! Now RT doesn’t have excuse to not play yet
Isabelle talking about how her “normal” face is all an act really got me. As an autistic person I learned to act normal enough to pass as neurotypical, so that I can fit in with society. It’s a struggle every single day to hold myself together enough so I seem “normal” to other people. And River only being diagnosed when she was older really struck me too, since I didn’t find out about my autism until a couple of years ago.
I remember watching a play through of this when I was much younger, probably in middle school, but before this I couldn’t remember anything about the story except that it made me cry haha. It feels good to revisit it as an adult with a fuller life experience as context.
1:23:58
“Johnny’s going to the moon, and I’ll see you in Hell, Neil!”
-Dr. Rosalene
I don't know why but "Tomatoes are a type of dolphin" killed me and I'm dying from laughing
How do you keep dying after being killed
@@oogleyboogley302 That's how hard it made me laugh
@@MagicMason1000 oh ok
As someone who is described “normal” on the spectrum, I never teared up more.
Thank you all
as someone who is described as "high functioning", I can say my tear glands are really high functioning lol
@@strogonoffcore same, it’s nice to see something, someone confront it, I needed this story ten years ago.
Don’t worry, the rest of the story had me bawling
SAME. I pass off as normal to the point where I barely, *barely* didn't pass my school diagnosis. Me and my mom both scored me above severe, my teachers scored me at least mild, and only one of them didn't score me above the threshold.
Y’know, while I do love the chaotic energy of Rt’s usual videos, a nice relaxing steam is always appreciated.
Same here.
Honestly these videos have come to be my favourites, especially when he does them on games like this. It's always nice to just chill for an hour or two and probably cry at a sad game.
"relaxing" :*)
Oh god, as someone with Autism, when I realized THAT'S what River/Izzy had, it broke me. They did such a good job of subtly hinting it at you, and I love how it's never outright stated. And it's true what Izzy said. That if you get diagnosed early, it's a lot easier. I was lucky to get diagnosed when I was 5. Now, at 18, while I still struggle sometimes, I am a lot better at it then I used to be. My 'grandma' (adopted into the family by my mom), wasn't so lucky. She wasn't diagnosed until she was 60. She still has trouble reading people sometimes.
This is extremely late, but my twin brother was diagnosed at around 2 or so and I just got a provisional diagnosis at 18. When Neil said he had never met a girl with it, maybe that’s why :’) maybe they took longer to get diagnosed. Anyways I’m crying rn over this video
I was diagnosed at 19 and I can say with confidence that feels like it came too late, though I got answers for why I acted the way I did and did things the way I did in school, I went my whole life up until becoming an adult wondering why I was so different to the people I knew and saw. Then I became very self-conscious because now I'm going to work and I have to try and act "normal" when my social skills are just non-existent due to severe social anxiety and never really learning how to interact with others properly.
I’m impressed how much thought was put into River, even with the stigma around autism at the time.
Like, her wild interest in lighthouses we saw in her childhood makes sense. It’s what’s called a Special Interest. Essentially, many people on the spectrum have extraordinary interest in one subject (mines in palaeontology!), focussing on it above other interests. So as an example, I could name like, two hundred species of dinosaur at the age of six, but didn’t (and still don’t) know my multiplication tables past 2.
I believe this is where the stereotype of people on the spectrum being super duper smart, but bad with social intersection.
Anyone who’s actually an expert feel free fill me in on more info. I’ve just watched enough documentaries and read enough Wikipedia articles for this comment.
Also *OOGGHH* ,that ending hit me like a truck
random question: about how many dinosaurs can you name now?
@@oranplan1630 If you give me time, probably at least 300
@@sharksuperiority9736 do it...
Also for my hyper focus interest it would be history particularly historical arms and armour...but mostly armour.
@@sharksuperiority9736 sir do you agree that zuul is cuul?
@@stuktbh5949 I dunno, but I know that it’s not cuul to Juul in schuul
So, River know it all that time and tried her best to gently revive John’s memory...
Does she know that he lost his memory from medication though? I always had the feeling that she thought he "just" forgot.
@@tsunamie1015 his mom could've told her
@@tsunamie1015 she doesn't, no one else besides his mom really knew about the medication, even john had no idea why he couldn't remember this stuff, if it weren't for Niel to pull his medical files that would never come up. That's why he has no idea why he wants to go to the moon since he lost River.
@@betsegg she couldn't. She suppressed John completely for the guilt of being Joey's cause of death. In her head, Joey is her only son, and it's like nothing ever happened before.
Just dove into the wiki, according to River’s page she realized when she asked John to throw the hacky sack away and he did so like it meant nothing to him. That, and him referring to the day he asked her out as their “first meeting.”
As someone on the Autistic spectrum I often forget how little I share my thoughts with other people. I also have been diagnosed with ADHD and I have a lot going on in my head. The thing is I have a hard time communicating what I'm thinking to my family. I spend a lot of time inside my own head and don't talk to people very much. Sometimes people ask me if I'm okay because I look so spaced out.
I don't realize how quiet I am because I spend all my time thinking of other things and I am never able to fully share my emotions. Communication is hard for me.
My way of sharing my feelings is usually by making jokes, or showing things that I have made. I've started writing stories and making art, and I prefer to speak through my work.
If anyone feels like they have a hard time communicating, I encourage you to find something you can share with people, or pick up a medium that you can Express yourself with.
Hopefully someone will be able to relate to what I'm saying.
I'm not autistic but honestly thanks for sharing your story and talking about it. I love how open this comment section is in that so many people are just sharing their stories related to autism. Honestly this game has brought me the most understanding about what it's like to be autistic I've ever had. So thanks for sharing! And of course everything you are experiencing is 100% valid and don't let anybody else tell you otherwise.
This stream absolutely wrecked me. I’ve never cried so much from a video game 😭
well, looks like I have something to look forward to
SEQUEL RELEASED AFTER A BILLION YEARS
For me it was the ending of Celeste, at least Chapter 9.
@@MaoMaster69 third game spose to come out this year too. nother thing to look forward to.
It was Rakuen for me...
when the teacher said 'see, was that so hard?' i FELT that, ugh--- absolutely the worst as a fellow neurodivergent kid... simple things ARE hard sometimes damnit
It was showing my work in math for me, they way I do it is like a calculator - There isn’t some process or method to follow, it just puts in the question and gives the answer
I love how RT can be a joker at one moment. then have the softest, most gentle and caring voice the next.
I've been kind of stuck in a rut lately, doing the same things on repeat, stopping, stalling, but seeing your recent long-format emotion-triggering videos, it really helps push me to want to do more. And the variety of content you've been doing lately feels really good overall. I'm finding myself getting real excited whenever I see something unfamiliar on your channel.
Thank you so much for sharing this kind of content
Hey thank you, can very much relate to that feeling and I hope things pick up soon :)
@@RTGame That means a lot to me.
I will certainly keep going and trying my best, whatever comes. Thank you for your well-wish, I wish you the best in your own life.
This was hartwarming to read. Hope things are going better now!
RT playing to the moon? This couldn't get any better
@Egg Egg egg egg I forgot to write night
The representation i felt when Izzy called John a neurotypical nearly got me to cry omg
Never heard of it before until now.
@@stijn2472 I mean fair! I'm pretty sure it's mostly used in the neurodivergent community (autistics, ADHD, etc) so it's rare to see it outside that context. It's partly why the use of it took me by such surprise
@@annemarievanpeer120 its better than using the primitive American labeling of neurodiversity as a disease…leagues better…better describes what we are, and acknowledges you cannot “cure” something that isn’t an illness
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Ik hoor het zelf in het Nederlands eerlijk gezegd nooit. "Neurotypisch" bedoel ik dan. En ik heb ADD en ben in behandeling ervoor geweest. Het is opzich een handige term maar ik ben bang dat mensen een beetje raar gaan reageren erop
One thing I noticed too that they even help to subtly hint at River having Autism, every time she is spoken to, she averts her eyes from the person. One of the few things I have heard about the disorder, and have seen a bit in my friend who has it, is they typically don't like to make eye contact. The tiny details in this game are amazing and it has hit me directly in the heart with feels.
Indeed. Non-linguistic social cues and/or things that can’t translate in an objective manner (such as ocular and/or otherwise facial expression, tonality based expression. Among other things)
Allot of people in these groups are commonly naturally conditioned to either outright avoid or be forced to put immense amounts of mental energy to manage through situations that require such communication
A specific quote I’ve written comes to mind: “I can’t tell what you want me to say to you by the way that you forced me to stare at you, or the specific pitch you screamed at me when I avoided your gaze. Say what you mean, nothing less.”
RT you don’t understand how much these longer videos mean for someone like me. I deal with sleep paranoia and night terrors. I get anxiety at the thought of being alone. Hearing a voice, as calming and relaxing as yours while falling asleep, helps me sleep, and in fact, I’m actually excited to fall asleep now. Thank you for uploading these videos, you don’t understand how much I appreciate it.
You described our situation perfectly. I’m the same way. If you need anything or anyone, I have a discord if you would like to talk. In fact, it’s 2am at the moment and my anxiety doesn’t let me sleep. I understand you
If you want to hear more of RT's voice, there's an RT stream archive channel on youtube that uploads his full streams; even the ones that don't get a highlight. There are some chill ones like the Pokemon shiny hunts there as well. You should definitely check it out if you don't have the time to watch the streams but want more of RT
@@HazeEmry lol I was just abt to recommend the same thing. Also if you prefer twitch you can also watch his old streams on there as well
How does this help you sleep with the amount of tears on your eyes?
I’m so glad to know that I’m not the only one who struggles with this kinda stuff
To the Moon means a lot to me as one of the better video games that shows the difficulty of communicating with somebody with autism. While it's ultimately sad that Johnny never quite understood what River was trying to indicate, he tried his best and kept every single rabbit because he knew they meant something, but just wasn't sure what. I'm on the spectrum myself, so seeing neurodivergence be treated with respect and dignity made me very happy and very emotional.
Im glad you enjoyed this. Just so you know though, The game files itself have some extra episodes that teh game devs slipped into the game via two separate updates. They take place after the events of this one and are pretty insightful
Seeing “For River” at the beginning was like a shot to the chest, I loved this game and I’m excited more people are playing it!
Obviously I don't know the dev's actual reason, but I don't think that they avoided calling it "autism" because they were afraid of the term. In the past, autism was its own disorder with its own criteria, rather than being considered a spectrum as it is now. They do say that River has a "pervasive developmental disorder" which is the old term for what we now refer to as autism spectrum disorders. And they may have wanted to portray her as having a form of PDD that wasn't specifically autism or Asperger's syndrome. I don't know if it's still recognized, but in past you could be diagnosed as having PDD-NOS (Pervasive Developmental Disorder - Not Otherwise Specified). It could have been as simple as wanting to have her character and the symptoms of her disorder in a certain way, but realized that it wasn't consistent with autism or Asperger's, so they left it as her just having a PDD, or as we'd say now, just being on the spectrum.
Edit: I just checked, and apparently the term "autism spectrum disorders" only became the clinical term with the DSM-5, which came out in 2013. This game came out in 2011, which means it was when they were still calling them pervasive developmental disorders.
RT is so wholesome and such a loving guy. Even when we all see him watch games about 'serious topics'- he still is his good old self. He's the friend we will all never have but will always know about how amazingly caring and friendly he is. Our wholesome mate.
No game has made me cry like this game, it’s so sad and beautiful
it didn’t make me cry at all i don’t get what’s so sad about it
@@kam2894 it’s probably the editing style, since it cuts quite a lot, the markiplier and jacksepticeye ones are more emotional
@@xbreadguy_1080 damn i should’ve watched them instead then, but too late now
@@kam2894 I think there’s a sequel, so watch that instead
Keep blinking was a little bit below for emotion, and groundhog day still hits
No matter how many playthroughs i watch of this game, "everythings alright" always gets me ;-;
I never thought I'd see the day this game would resurface on my subscription tab
As someone with undiagnosed Asperger's (I was a kid at the tail end of the "don't talk about it" era, same as River, so I was just seen as "weird" rather than on the spectrum), that part about the stars being lighthouses hits hard. At least in my experience, that really is exactly how it feels much of the time. Like there are billions of people out there and you want to be a part of the group, but because of how different you are you can't because you're just too far apart and you can't understand the others, nor they you. This video actually made me cry as soon as River got to that part and I haven't stopped even as I'm writing this.
Thank you so very much RT for being so understanding of people with conditions like Asperger's. I can't speak for everyone, but it means a lot to me.
I remember when Markiplier played this way back when... first game to make me cry, and "Everything's Alright" was the first song I memorized word for word. Good choice, thanks for playing
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A new 1 hour long RTGame video that has "Let's" in it's title? This is gonna be good.
Damn.
I almost forgot how good the story of this game was.
The tears I cry now are of happiness. Because he got exactly what he asked for.
Even if it took awhile.
It’s kinda bittersweet considering that the entire thing wasn’t real.
@@badabing9402 It wans to John. That's the whole point of what they do. They help those who are about to die, live out their dreams. John got his, even if it was gotten in a roundabout way. So, no matter how real, or fake those memories are, John got to live his best life. He got his brother back, met River, and went To The Moon. As far as he could remember in his final moments, that was his life, and he was happy with it.
@@thexp905 it’s a satisfying ending for him. Not for anyone else. River still is dead, joeys still dead, nothing is changed in the real world. T
It might be the real world to Johnny, but from our perspective, it’s just sad.
Real OGs remember when the title was "Let's go to the Moon"
This is the videogame equivalent of recieving a hug and a punch in the gut at the same time
This game is gonna be “Don’t Blink” all over again...
Before Your Eyes*
This was Before Your Eyes before Before Your Eyes existed.
Oh god, I remember when Mark played this years ago, this is gonna be interesting to revisit
Infinite
God, this was the first game to genuinely touch me, I remember being a wreak for DAYS after finishing it,,, seeing it again after all these years,, thank you so much rt I’m Not Ready
over an hour long, a simple title, a description of something wholesome, yep this is gonna be amazing
I know this is supposed to be an emotionally impactful game, but I can’t stop thinking about the sub name at 1:20:41 and FitMC narrating over it like “After years of dormancy, POPBOB, the most famous player on the oldest anarchy sever in Minecraft, has unexpectedly been spotted in the RTGame livestream”
How I wish
seeing as you’re playing a lot of indie games, you should play coffee talk. its a game where you play as a barista and hear the stories you’re customers give while serving them coffee. there’s some comedic and meaningful moments and i think you’d like it.
OHMYGOD YES! I also want to see him play va11halla :')
I first played this game while in college, before I'd had a full time job, before I'd met my fiance, before I'd moved out of home. It has never left me.
dude i almost forgot that the creator announced that this game is going to get an animated film adaptation. i haven't been keeping up with what's happening tho so take it with a grain of salt.
edit: changed anime to animated film adaptation bcoz i remembered it wrongly
oKAY WAIT WHAT
Me seeing RT upload this: Aw, I remember loving this game! Can't remember exactly what it was about, though.
Me watching the whole thing in one sitting: why does my heart hurt so bad
One detail that I love is the fact that River, like myself and many other Aspergers people, struggles with eye contact and will often look away from people when talking to them, which just makes her feel all the more real.
I always forget the exact details and it makes me cry every time. I can't wait for when I come back around in two years and watch it all happen again.
I remember when this game first came out. I CRIED.
_You have the same name as one of the characters_
My best friend from middle school and I cried so hard when we watched Markiplier play this game. I just cried again and texted her
This game holds a special place in my heart. I related to River so much...a bit too much actually as it was this story that pushed me to get myself a diagnosis of asd after never understanding why I was so different. Great seeing you play this game dude :)
This game came out around the same time I was learning I was autistic. Never really knew how to understand it and I just thought I was different. Because I was young and ignorant, I just thought I was different from everyone else and that's why I was ostracized. This game alone was what helped me better understand my condition showing that it wasn't just me who had it.
1 Hours earlier "Oh fun internet man uploaded again time to laugh."
*Currently sitting in silence holding back tears*
always a good day when RT uploads
Always a good day when Kevin uploads
Always a good day when Shaun uploads
All ways a good day when jack uploads
Always a good day when Chippy uploads
Always a good day
Everytime I watch this game, I burst into tears. As the older brother to two siblings in the spectrum this game hits different. River is exactly like my sister. Glad to see people love this game as much as I do.
when rt includes Let's in the title you know its gonna be a cozy game
A sad cozy game that gives us all feels, but I wouldnt have it any other way
For people watching in the future, the video was originally titled "Let's go To The Moon for the first time" or something like that. I don't quite remember, sorry.
i have a lot of memories with this game, my dad played it for me when i was little, and back then i don’t think i truly understood what was going on here. watching this video was such a lovely experience for me, filled with both nostalgia and a newfound understanding
I think that's honestly the perfect headspace for this story
"He can always find another River Neil...
But he only has one brother"
Short Steps
Deep Breaths
Everything is Alright
I listen to that song still to this day, it's like I want to feel the pain it gives me 😭
I remember this game ruined me, but enough of it faded from memory to let it hit just as hard again. That's kinda fitting for this game.
now that i watched this amazing video that made everyone cry, it's time to for a complete tone shift and see what the bathtub in minecraft was all about because i missed that video
Still patiently waiting for RT to play the sequels, hope he does one day
_video ends_
Everyone in the movie theatre, crying and clapping:
I can't help but think of the pirates in the theater in the original Spongebob movie.
RT has unlocked memories from when we watched PewDiePie’s playthrough of this game over 8 years ago.
I don’t feel like I’ve experience so much emotion in one game in such as long time and I’m glad to experience this game once again!
Hello there
@@extermdfingerprints3465 general kenobi
Everywhere I go, I see your face
The video didn't start and im already crying
I love this game more than anyone can imagine. I was diagnosed as autistic at age 12. And ever since it’s been something I’ve been insecure about. And seeing such an amazing beautiful game have such an amazing beautiful character be on the spectrum and it represented so well..... I cried, I cried so hard. It made me feel seen and welcomed. for the first time I didn’t hate the thing that’s made me feel so insecure about myself. For the first time I didn’t feel loved despite being on the spectrum, but loved because I was on it. it made me feel welcomed and beautiful. I was so happy. I’d give anything to experience this game for the first time again.
There have only been 2 games that have made me cry: “To the Moon” and “Finding Paradise” and I’m happy to see that both of them have done it every time I’ve seen them.
Lemme tell you, when I googled "autism" in 2015-16, all I got was a page on the Health Canada website saying "social disorder" with no symptoms or anything. Dancing around the subject in 2011 makes a LOT of sense.
No RT, I'm not ready to cry again
Only OGs know there was a black screen for 5 minutes straight during the stream
why? and where?
@@oranplan1630 he didn't show it,but it did happen
@@PirateCat822 That doesn't answer the question.
I never got to play this game as a kid but I'm glad I finally got to experience the tale. Emotions and all.
after an hour and 11 minutes of watching, the beauty of the past started to show. Thank you for this.
The way autism was represented was one of the first times I felt not disappointed by an overacted version of reality which makes people think all people with autism are either supergeniouses or completely stupid.
This is the fourth time I've watched someone play this game, and once again I have been reduced to tears from it. This game is beautiful and as someone on the spectrum myself I've always appreciated it. Doesn't matter how much time has passed, this game will always make me emotional.