It's finally here. It's quite long (that's what she said) and I also wanted to use replay mode as little as possible. TL;DW: PSSR is worth to use it in 60Hz in RT mode, to get an actual ray tracing. It's also worth to use it in 120Hz to improve resolution and overall quality - but you can't get ray tracing in a cockpit as in 60Hz mode. That being said, PSSR is a little bit buggy and you can notice here and there some unwated effects or lower quality. It also affects FPS in 120Hz.
Thanks for this comparison. I have been flicking between different modes and settled on 120hz VRR and PSSR turned off. Even though I can appreciate the slight jaggies removal with PSSR on the noise it creates on fences is too distracting for me. Also framerate is lower too. PSSR on in the garage/menus at 120hz is awful, the interior shots are full of crawling noise and artifacts. I think if playing in 120hz disable PSSR. If playing in 60hz use raytracing and PSSR. I've seen digital foundry's video and its great but I appreciate the effort shown here. 👍
Anyone who can't appreciate the difference between viewing the same game with and without ray tracing is better off sticking with the standard PS5. I personally can't race GT7 without seeing the interiors with ray tracing, it's amazing in-game.
Yes, it definitely looks much better with the ray tracing in interiors. For me the 120hz modes and improved VR made ALL the difference compared to base though.
So… RT PSSR makes the interior materials more reflective. And how the sunlight bumps through the dashboard and stuff, makes it a realistic attention to detail. Only on 60Hz mode. The cockpit view in PSSR lacks shadows in Streetlights and Tunnel lights, which kinda bothers me. I know most of you will say “It’s the same.” But let me tell you: THE DIFFERENCES ARE SMALL. If you can’t tell the differences, then try to observe closer before you comment. Either way, the normal PS5 can still hold itself for sure. Pro’s just giving a little extra graphical improvement options, as well as higher framerates. Oh well, if you want the Pro because Ray Tracing on gameplay is now possible, then it’s ok. Go for it.
The differences going through a tunnel is very obvious when in the interior camera position. The light bouncing off the speedometer and other places around the interior is really cool!
When PS5 Pro was revealed back in September and saw that price point at the end of it, I was with the majority and said that it’s not gonna replace my launch PS5. But Polyphony did it again, just like back when PS4 Pro footage of GT Sport was shown 😄 The latest GT7 clips definitely convinced me to buy one.
I mean, that part at 3:48 inside of the Gazoo Racing race car IS eye opening, but most of them are just sliiiiight additions to reflections or lights, this is the era of diminishing returns, the PS5 Pro is just not worth it. Which is why it is a bad idea to have two consoles on each generation, Sony chose the worst moment to release a $700 "upgrade" for a console with no games at all.
Go watch the Digital Foundry video if you want to see ray tracing properly shown off on the PS5 Pro. Edit: This video shows “PS5 Ray Tracing” in gameplay scenes, but the only time you will ever see ray tracing on the base PS5 is when viewing replays and even then it’s only when you are watching the broadcast style camera. The PS5 Pro has it at all times assuming you’re not using the 120hz mode. It’s disabled at all times when in 120hz mode.
But I also added replay scenes in this comparison. And I also wanted to focus on a gameplay aspect of this comparison, because this is where most people will spend their time
If we need DF to zoom in and tell us where the differences are because it's so hard to notice in normal gameplay conditions, then it's not worth spending £700 on a PS5 Pro.
@@XboxStation-xh8cw they zoom in because most people are watching these videos on their tiny phone screen. They’ve explained this many times. If you don’t understand this tech it’s fine, but maybe you don’t have to have an opinion on it.
Never seen frame drops like those on trial mountain. Find it odd. Even in rain, i find it mostly locked. Ive done all the tracks that had a few drops on PS5 and they dont happen anymore on the pro. Especially with cars. You got drops with no cars?? I use RT mode, pssr off 99% of the time. Also moto.. definitely love to see more RT mode vs performance mode. Performance mode has higher lod on some objects.
In theory framerate should be stable with only one car on the track, but I did some testing in 120Hz Peformance mode with PSSR and you can still get sometimes framedrops (based on what FPS monitor on my screen was displaying.
This pssr problem seems to be the same one that was happening in Alan Wake 2, a lot of noise, it should be better, but many of the cases add various graphical problems like shaking grid of the track. And if you turn off PSSR, it will turn off raytracing in the cockpit view. As it is the first implementation, in the future they should correct this problem. Dlss when launched also had its defects.
It's finally here. It's quite long (that's what she said) and I also wanted to use replay mode as little as possible.
TL;DW:
PSSR is worth to use it in 60Hz in RT mode, to get an actual ray tracing. It's also worth to use it in 120Hz to improve resolution and overall quality - but you can't get ray tracing in a cockpit as in 60Hz mode. That being said, PSSR is a little bit buggy and you can notice here and there some unwated effects or lower quality. It also affects FPS in 120Hz.
Thanks for this comparison. I have been flicking between different modes and settled on 120hz VRR and PSSR turned off. Even though I can appreciate the slight jaggies removal with PSSR on the noise it creates on fences is too distracting for me. Also framerate is lower too. PSSR on in the garage/menus at 120hz is awful, the interior shots are full of crawling noise and artifacts. I think if playing in 120hz disable PSSR. If playing in 60hz use raytracing and PSSR. I've seen digital foundry's video and its great but I appreciate the effort shown here. 👍
Can you make a video driving the Huyara at Tokyo at night in cockpit view? I think that would be a really cool showcase of the raytraced reflections
@@huks. I have no plans to record another video for Huayra, but I can add this to my PS4 Pro vs PS5 Pro comparison.
Anyone who can't appreciate the difference between viewing the same game with and without ray tracing is better off sticking with the standard PS5. I personally can't race GT7 without seeing the interiors with ray tracing, it's amazing in-game.
Seek help
@@kondor99999look for an eye doctor
Yes, it definitely looks much better with the ray tracing in interiors. For me the 120hz modes and improved VR made ALL the difference compared to base though.
And to everyone say:
It's JUST THE SAME
I watched this video at 4k on my 65" TV and I still couldn't find a reason why we should spend £700 on a PS5 Pro.
Videos are compressed and he showed the wrong exemples
Digital foundry video is much better
Still agree that its expansibve but there is a difference
@@AB-fr2ei And for the future, what are "the good examples"?
@@MotoGamesTV like like the lights reflecting when you are close to other cars, interiors reflecting under tunnel lights, etc...
@@AB-fr2ei Which are in my comparison.
So dont buy it. Just dont understand why someone would buy a console for 1 game. The RT upgrade is a nice improvement. Its a bonus.
Excellent comparison!
So… RT PSSR makes the interior materials more reflective. And how the sunlight bumps through the dashboard and stuff, makes it a realistic attention to detail. Only on 60Hz mode.
The cockpit view in PSSR lacks shadows in Streetlights and Tunnel lights, which kinda bothers me.
I know most of you will say “It’s the same.” But let me tell you: THE DIFFERENCES ARE SMALL. If you can’t tell the differences, then try to observe closer before you comment.
Either way, the normal PS5 can still hold itself for sure. Pro’s just giving a little extra graphical improvement options, as well as higher framerates. Oh well, if you want the Pro because Ray Tracing on gameplay is now possible, then it’s ok. Go for it.
So the Conclusion is, is that GT7 is a Peak in terms of Graphics. Even with Better or "Pro" Hardare the difference are pretty small ...
Niceee 👍🏻
@@muhammadnajmimurindo9289 Absolutely. Pro or Standard, With or without RT, the graphics still hold up very nicely.
The differences going through a tunnel is very obvious when in the interior camera position. The light bouncing off the speedometer and other places around the interior is really cool!
They're same picture
If you can’t tell the difference it’s not for you.
pleb comment
buy some glasses bitc*
@@DeesBees85living in delusion is clearly for you.
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If the PS 5 Pro never comes with a Disc Drive for 600 $ i will never get a PS 5 Pro i am very Happy with my Base PS 5.
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Anti-aliasing Low vs. Medium vs. High
When PS5 Pro was revealed back in September and saw that price point at the end of it, I was with the majority and said that it’s not gonna replace my launch PS5. But Polyphony did it again, just like back when PS4 Pro footage of GT Sport was shown 😄
The latest GT7 clips definitely convinced me to buy one.
Does the PS5 Pro also carry over to the menu showcases or is it just race only?
I mean, that part at 3:48 inside of the Gazoo Racing race car IS eye opening, but most of them are just sliiiiight additions to reflections or lights, this is the era of diminishing returns, the PS5 Pro is just not worth it. Which is why it is a bad idea to have two consoles on each generation, Sony chose the worst moment to release a $700 "upgrade" for a console with no games at all.
7:40 how will i live with 59 fps , NGL 700€ is a bargain for the extra 1 fps
Go watch the Digital Foundry video if you want to see ray tracing properly shown off on the PS5 Pro.
Edit: This video shows “PS5 Ray Tracing” in gameplay scenes, but the only time you will ever see ray tracing on the base PS5 is when viewing replays and even then it’s only when you are watching the broadcast style camera. The PS5 Pro has it at all times assuming you’re not using the 120hz mode. It’s disabled at all times when in 120hz mode.
But I also added replay scenes in this comparison. And I also wanted to focus on a gameplay aspect of this comparison, because this is where most people will spend their time
If we need DF to zoom in and tell us where the differences are because it's so hard to notice in normal gameplay conditions, then it's not worth spending £700 on a PS5 Pro.
Smart @@XboxStation-xh8cw
@@XboxStation-xh8cw they zoom in because most people are watching these videos on their tiny phone screen. They’ve explained this many times. If you don’t understand this tech it’s fine, but maybe you don’t have to have an opinion on it.
@@DeesBees85so true!!! And YT compression
Looks the same for me if not a bit worst but with more FPS
So you just can't just have Ray Tracing cockpit without PSSR?
Ray Tracing is literally the Emperors New Clothes.
Never seen frame drops like those on trial mountain. Find it odd. Even in rain, i find it mostly locked.
Ive done all the tracks that had a few drops on PS5 and they dont happen anymore on the pro. Especially with cars. You got drops with no cars??
I use RT mode, pssr off 99% of the time.
Also moto.. definitely love to see more RT mode vs performance mode. Performance mode has higher lod on some objects.
In theory framerate should be stable with only one car on the track, but I did some testing in 120Hz Peformance mode with PSSR and you can still get sometimes framedrops (based on what FPS monitor on my screen was displaying.
This pssr problem seems to be the same one that was happening in Alan Wake 2, a lot of noise, it should be better, but many of the cases add various graphical problems like shaking grid of the track. And if you turn off PSSR, it will turn off raytracing in the cockpit view. As it is the first implementation, in the future they should correct this problem. Dlss when launched also had its defects.
Turning off pssr doesnt turn off RT completely. Just the interior view loses RT.
@@shakengandulf True, I forgot that detail.
Base ps5 has no ingame RT. Awful comparison.
Base PS5 has no RT during gameplay, but PS5 Pro has. There you go, first difference.
Da água pra water
too fast
no need PS5pro
I think you picked pretty bad examples to show the difference
And what are "the good examples"?