personally i dont like dj grooves, i like the conductor way better but i do agree, the conductor makes more sense for a fight. knives on dj grooves? saws on dj grooves? the bomb from train rush? and the conductor makes more sense, it just looks right. some attacks fit dj grooves more better though, like the disco ball or whatever it is, but the conductor makes more sense for a boss fight.
This actually made more sense. I ended up fighting DJ Grooves because I wanted him to win the award. The Conductor boarded up the door to the penguins' studio, is foul-mouthed (no pun intended), and almost blew up a train full of his own owls. Grooves' parade was kind of dangerous, but his endorsement game was fun and cute, he cleared your debts from Chapter 1, and he treated Hat Kid more like a friend. Neither may be perfect but Grooves was more of a hero and Conductor was more of a villain.
I find it funny the Conductor is trying to erase 1 loss vs DJ Grooves who is in a 52 loss streak or something of that nature + during the train murder if you acuse your Uncles sister I think it was, it turns out it was Grooves trying to help the Conductor with his movie plot. Grooves seems a lot more respectful to the player while the Conductor pretty much steals all the credit. At least to me for Grooves it seems malice born of desperation. For the Conductor it just feels almost petty. It doesn't really excuse trying to murder you though.
0:26 "From me cold, dead hands!" The Conductor is voice by Xander Mobus, in Smash Bros Wii. U to Ultimate. Xander Mobus also voices Crazy Hand and Master Hand, bosses from the game, This means that the Conductor's hands are smash bosses.
Conductor/DJ Grooves: I lost the 42nd award What it says when beginning Award Ceremony for the first time: Crown Conductor/DJ Grooves as the winner? The song of the fight: Battle of Award 42 excuse me what the peck
Wait if it was attached to the train the whole room will blow up- Edit: Conductor/Dj Grooves: *Adds the birds from "The Big Parade"* Me: *Flashbacks to how many times I died in that one level*
@@KimjongIllStalintheoneandonly yeah, but the Conductor have always been a jerk, remember that line on the Train bomb act: "I don't care about my owls or even you [...]" while DJ Grooves have always been nice to you
@@bella_daze3092 no... he is... something, if Gears for breakfast wanted to make an owl, they would make, but I think the Conductor is just a dinoussaur lol
I always let DJ Grooves win because in my mind it makes more sense for him to be evil. Plus, I've liked Conductor more ever since Hat/Bow Kid sees him and his grandchildren on the cruise ship.
I think I've said this before elsewhere but: - Conductor makes more sense as the villain of this chapter, - HOWEVER, DJ Grooves makes much more sense in terms of boss fight design. I mean, losing one award breaking a 42-year long streak definitely feels like something you'd time travel to fix, it's kind of like when you play a rhythm game only to get a single "good" note which breaks the combo... so it would make sense why the Conductor would be the bad guy here. Not to mention that he has extremely questionable work ethics (doesn't care about his fellow owls, only cares about his train lol) and would sabotage the penguins in order to win, so the idea that "he cheated" wouldn't be too far out of the question. After all, who's to say that all of his other wins were cheated as well? But in the end this boss fight doesn't seem to fit him that well--it's too glamorous and colorful, even with the difference in stage design, it just doesn't seem to fit with him since most of the significant props used in this fight relate more to Grooves than the Conductor. The disco balls, the cars, the parade at the end, photographs, even the falling lights to an extent (though that can apply to both since it's just a generic movie prop, but I always associated Grooves with the "spotlight" than I did the Conductor); meanwhile, the Conductor has the knives, saw blades, the bomb--that's about it. They're definitely not as flashy or prominent in this fight compared to the Grooves-related props. With how flashy this boss fight is it seems more fitting to be a Grooves fight than a Conductor fight, since the latter I usually associate more with kind of working behind the scenes? Like I mentioned before he never seemed like a "likes to be in the spotlight" kind of bird, unlike DJ Grooves who absolutely does with how dramatic and showy he is. The two have very different styles so I understand that it'd be hard to find a perfect balance that fits both of them at the same time, but yeah, that's my opinion on the matter.
I like DJ Grooves more as as the boss. It feels like the rage he held at all his past losses has finally been unleashed now that the chance to erase them and take back The Conductor's stolen victories. It's genuinely so important to him he'd be willing to kill the child who got him his long overdue victory to make sure his revision of history sticks. And even if she doesn't stand in his way, she's a loose end. He sounds like he's at his wit's end in Phase 3, like he's truly desperate to take back what's rightfully his. Even his laughter almost turns into sobbing and his voice cracks when he says "CHEEEECK THIIIIIS OOOOOUT!" The Conductor killing Hat Kid so DJ Grooves doesn't make fun of him for cheating, not expose him for the fraud and sore loser he is, just LAUGHING AT HIM. . . is just too comically petty for my tastes. Also the Express Owls being in Phase 3 the way it was executed makes a lot more sense for DJ Grooves.
But I never really thought of it like that. Alot of people says that the conductor is a jerk so it makes more sense for him to start a fight but after what you said It makes sense that dj grooves will start the fight too. It's really sad that dj grooves almost never wins.
What I love about The Conductor fight over DJ Grooves is when he says "time's tickin", he flails around like a mad man until you hit him, lol! DJ Grooves just skates around, doesn't look like he's as intentionally trying to waste your time to make you explode.
It's not so much that DJ Grooves is the more popular choice, it's that the game is more biased towards him. The max possible points in "Murder on the Owl Express" is 720. DJ Grooves "Picture Perfect" however, is over 1,100 points. It is the other two that really make or break it, but it is difficult to get a higher score on Train Rush than The Big Parade without the Time Stop hat due to part of the score being how much time is left on Train Rush. I wanted the Conductor to win, but had no reasonable way to do so at that point in the game without intentionally sabotaging DJ Grooves' movies.
tbh I actually got the Conductor's fight unintentionally because I was REALLY terrible at the Big Parade that after I died so many times, I just decided to forget grabbing his face tokens and I only got like 17 points out of it rip.
Tbh this is the reason I don't trust game characters with powerful things I'm collecting. The game devs HAVE to go only one way since they don't have time to add the repercussions.
The boss fought at this point of the game is the winner of the awards ceremony, which is essentially picked by you (It's determined by your scores in each act of the chapter, higher score wins). From what I can tell, DJ Grooves has been the more popular pick and might actually be the intended boss for the stage with The Conductor being pasted into the encounter almost like an afterthought. Within the game's files, there is a "DJGrooves_Boss.umap" file, but no obvious "Conductor" variant, which makes me think they used the same map and reskinned it if The Conductor is the winner. There must be some stage geometry changes as well, but no change to the attack patterns- you'll notice the third strength of the Disco Ball attack (2:20) clips the upper part of the stage before it can hit the ground with some regularity in the Conductor variant, but I haven't seen it happen with DJ Grooves.
Conducter places bomb on me Conducter.hehehe now it's on you and not me train heh.... Me.if you want to keep your train in one piece you better disarm this Conducter.how I will go to menu and to to train rush and blow your train Conductor.nope Me.does what I said Conducted.cries PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK NNNNEEEEEAAAAAAAKKKKKK
when you defeat bosses they dont die, snatcher didnt die, the conductor/dj peck neck didnt die, mafia boss did die but thats an exception because of mustache girl, i have no clue about the flowers because they're flowers but i think they did die, if you beat the empress you dont even attack her so she doesnt die, and i have no clue for the boss in arctic cruise because im only at act 2.
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the best part is is that if you talk to him outs side the cruse ship (seal the deal dlc) he says, sorry about the knife incident, like its normal
Yeah
DJ Grooves won when I played, and while I like him a bit more, I think the Conductor made way more sense for a boss fight.
Finally a statement that I fully support
I myself like the conductor but Dj Grooves dances when he talks so yea
personally i dont like dj grooves, i like the conductor way better but i do agree, the conductor makes more sense for a fight. knives on dj grooves? saws on dj grooves? the bomb from train rush? and the conductor makes more sense, it just looks right. some attacks fit dj grooves more better though, like the disco ball or whatever it is, but the conductor makes more sense for a boss fight.
@@notmakingactualvidsanymore6289 Yeah
@@notmakingactualvidsanymore6289 I like both of them
huh...didnt know the ice head makes you invincible O_o
Me too, well now is time to cheating xd
now i wont die due to a conductor being yeeted at me
@@fireflare908 Lol
“I can’t let you leave this room, word will get out that I cheated”
*Literally invites everyone including his rival*
This actually made more sense. I ended up fighting DJ Grooves because I wanted him to win the award. The Conductor boarded up the door to the penguins' studio, is foul-mouthed (no pun intended), and almost blew up a train full of his own owls. Grooves' parade was kind of dangerous, but his endorsement game was fun and cute, he cleared your debts from Chapter 1, and he treated Hat Kid more like a friend. Neither may be perfect but Grooves was more of a hero and Conductor was more of a villain.
Yeah I agree
I find it funny the Conductor is trying to erase 1 loss vs DJ Grooves who is in a 52 loss streak or something of that nature + during the train murder if you acuse your Uncles sister I think it was, it turns out it was Grooves trying to help the Conductor with his movie plot. Grooves seems a lot more respectful to the player while the Conductor pretty much steals all the credit.
At least to me for Grooves it seems malice born of desperation. For the Conductor it just feels almost petty. It doesn't really excuse trying to murder you though.
I let Conductor win because I find his movies better than DJ Grooves' movies
@@laconicdraconic697 Yeah same
Dj grooves legit jut the bomb
I get these comment sections points but I’m glad they made both fights options, because I think the boss fits both of them really well
0:26 "From me cold, dead hands!" The Conductor is voice by Xander Mobus, in Smash Bros Wii. U to Ultimate. Xander Mobus also voices Crazy Hand and Master Hand, bosses from the game, This means that the Conductor's hands are smash bosses.
2:45 _Scottish intensity 6_🍺🍺🍺
my defuser is ready! now come here darling!
*DJ Grooves has a pair of scissors..*
Out of anything, it’s scissors.
Me who thought Conducter was just a innocent little guy but then this happens:
It's kinda funny that dj grooves is still dancing when he says that he will defuse the bomb
Conductor/DJ Grooves: I lost the 42nd award
What it says when beginning Award Ceremony for the first time: Crown Conductor/DJ Grooves as the winner?
The song of the fight: Battle of Award 42
excuse me what the peck
THIS ONE AIN'T RUBBER
Wait if it was attached to the train the whole room will blow up-
Edit: Conductor/Dj Grooves: *Adds the birds from "The Big Parade"* Me: *Flashbacks to how many times I died in that one level*
BRO SAME- I DIED WAY TOO MANY TIMES ON THAT LEVEL
I think it's better this way, since the Conductor was always kind of a jerk. At least DJ Grooves seemed to adore you as his diva.
But what if DJ grooves was just being nice so you work for him more it like a nice to you now then betrayed later
@@Not-Kirbo2 don’t you remember hat kid was working with conductor once
@@KimjongIllStalintheoneandonly yeah, but the Conductor have always been a jerk, remember that line on the Train bomb act: "I don't care about my owls or even you [...]" while DJ Grooves have always been nice to you
@@tear959 Yeah
Yeah
Honestly my favorite boss in this game
Same
Till this day i still dont know what kind of bird or creature is the conductor
I think he supposed to be an owl?
@@bella_daze3092 no... he is... something, if Gears for breakfast wanted to make an owl, they would make, but I think the Conductor is just a dinoussaur lol
@@tear959
Considering dinosaurs evolved into birds, this gives a funny thought. 🤣
@@Ctrooper2011 The ultimate Conductorsaur!
I always let DJ Grooves win because in my mind it makes more sense for him to be evil. Plus, I've liked Conductor more ever since Hat/Bow Kid sees him and his grandchildren on the cruise ship.
Oh
I like Conductor more, but I think he fits much more for a boss fight
Wait, when is it possible to play as bow kid?
@@tear959 yeah I think the conductor makes more sense to be someone that would try to kill you
@@bodabodapasta1500 You can only play her when in multiplayer, 2nd player is bow kid.
I think I've said this before elsewhere but:
- Conductor makes more sense as the villain of this chapter,
- HOWEVER, DJ Grooves makes much more sense in terms of boss fight design.
I mean, losing one award breaking a 42-year long streak definitely feels like something you'd time travel to fix, it's kind of like when you play a rhythm game only to get a single "good" note which breaks the combo... so it would make sense why the Conductor would be the bad guy here. Not to mention that he has extremely questionable work ethics (doesn't care about his fellow owls, only cares about his train lol) and would sabotage the penguins in order to win, so the idea that "he cheated" wouldn't be too far out of the question. After all, who's to say that all of his other wins were cheated as well?
But in the end this boss fight doesn't seem to fit him that well--it's too glamorous and colorful, even with the difference in stage design, it just doesn't seem to fit with him since most of the significant props used in this fight relate more to Grooves than the Conductor. The disco balls, the cars, the parade at the end, photographs, even the falling lights to an extent (though that can apply to both since it's just a generic movie prop, but I always associated Grooves with the "spotlight" than I did the Conductor); meanwhile, the Conductor has the knives, saw blades, the bomb--that's about it. They're definitely not as flashy or prominent in this fight compared to the Grooves-related props.
With how flashy this boss fight is it seems more fitting to be a Grooves fight than a Conductor fight, since the latter I usually associate more with kind of working behind the scenes? Like I mentioned before he never seemed like a "likes to be in the spotlight" kind of bird, unlike DJ Grooves who absolutely does with how dramatic and showy he is. The two have very different styles so I understand that it'd be hard to find a perfect balance that fits both of them at the same time, but yeah, that's my opinion on the matter.
I like DJ Grooves more as as the boss. It feels like the rage he held at all his past losses has finally been unleashed now that the chance to erase them and take back The Conductor's stolen victories. It's genuinely so important to him he'd be willing to kill the child who got him his long overdue victory to make sure his revision of history sticks. And even if she doesn't stand in his way, she's a loose end.
He sounds like he's at his wit's end in Phase 3, like he's truly desperate to take back what's rightfully his. Even his laughter almost turns into sobbing and his voice cracks when he says "CHEEEECK THIIIIIS OOOOOUT!"
The Conductor killing Hat Kid so DJ Grooves doesn't make fun of him for cheating, not expose him for the fraud and sore loser he is, just LAUGHING AT HIM. . . is just too comically petty for my tastes.
Also the Express Owls being in Phase 3 the way it was executed makes a lot more sense for DJ Grooves.
I love both boss fights
But I never really thought of it like that.
Alot of people says that the conductor is a jerk so it makes more sense for him to start a fight but after what you said
It makes sense that dj grooves will start the fight too.
It's really sad that dj grooves almost never wins.
I like this fight, but I also like dj grooves as the boss more, also I might just have a bias, cause I like the conductors character and movie
He reminds me of Scrooge McDuck with his accent.
0:31: When you miss ur Spanish lesson on Duolingo.
DJ grooves I like better because he thinks of you as his own little diva, and honestly gives me better vibes.
What I love about The Conductor fight over DJ Grooves is when he says "time's tickin", he flails around like a mad man until you hit him, lol! DJ Grooves just skates around, doesn't look like he's as intentionally trying to waste your time to make you explode.
Same
I think the conductor fits as the boss of chapter 2 instead of dj grooves
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I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD COUNTER THE KNIFES WITH ICE HAT WHAT
wait WHAT!? My agony could’ve been avoided with the ice hat!?
@@bella_daze3092 I KNOW RIGHT
+Victor Westbrook You Still Got It, Friend! :-D
It's not so much that DJ Grooves is the more popular choice, it's that the game is more biased towards him. The max possible points in "Murder on the Owl Express" is 720. DJ Grooves "Picture Perfect" however, is over 1,100 points. It is the other two that really make or break it, but it is difficult to get a higher score on Train Rush than The Big Parade without the Time Stop hat due to part of the score being how much time is left on Train Rush.
I wanted the Conductor to win, but had no reasonable way to do so at that point in the game without intentionally sabotaging DJ Grooves' movies.
tbh I actually got the Conductor's fight unintentionally because I was REALLY terrible at the Big Parade that after I died so many times, I just decided to forget grabbing his face tokens and I only got like 17 points out of it rip.
I liked conductor more and uh... I picked him because I thought I'd fight DJ grooves. now I'm considering whether I should make a new game or not.
Can we talk about the fact that this video has had no dislikes for 2 years?
yeah
Make that 4 now
"PECKNECK!!!!!!!!!!!"
i feel like the DJ fight was better, because this feels like a fan fight because of conducter's size
Why does this video keep on stopping in 10 seconds?
I think that's just you
Um maybe cause your clicking forward or backward?
Umm.. No?
I make this whit'nt the ice power because I don't knowwwwwwww....
How do you get that level
Tbh this is the reason I don't trust game characters with powerful things I'm collecting. The game devs HAVE to go only one way since they don't have time to add the repercussions.
Uh is there a way to pick the other person or do I have to make a new game...
Just found out it made no difference if you say yes or no.
Huh didn’t know you could even fight him
The boss fought at this point of the game is the winner of the awards ceremony, which is essentially picked by you (It's determined by your scores in each act of the chapter, higher score wins).
From what I can tell, DJ Grooves has been the more popular pick and might actually be the intended boss for the stage with The Conductor being pasted into the encounter almost like an afterthought.
Within the game's files, there is a "DJGrooves_Boss.umap" file, but no obvious "Conductor" variant, which makes me think they used the same map and reskinned it if The Conductor is the winner. There must be some stage geometry changes as well, but no change to the attack patterns- you'll notice the third strength of the Disco Ball attack (2:20) clips the upper part of the stage before it can hit the ground with some regularity in the Conductor variant, but I haven't seen it happen with DJ Grooves.
@@vivivachi It is also obvious since The Conductor has DJ Grooves hitbox.
I saw failboat and he won with the conducter and I'm like finally someone gets the conducter to win
I almost always get conductor. It’s much easier to get a higher score in his acts.
@@kyubeyz_7062 yeah, train rush is easy for me now
but 10 seconds until self destruct is just NO
Why do you want to hurt me???!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😱😱😱😱😱😰😰😰😰😰😵😵😵😵😵😡😡😡😡😡
Conducter places bomb on me
Conducter.hehehe now it's on you and not me train heh....
Me.if you want to keep your train in one piece you better disarm this
Conducter.how I will go to menu and to to train rush and blow your train
Conductor.nope
Me.does what I said
Conducted.cries PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK NNNNEEEEEAAAAAAAKKKKKK
Wait do you really kill him?!??
Well, you defeat him. He doesn't DIE.
Johann Hamilton Oh thank goodness!!! I like the conductor alot
when you defeat bosses they dont die, snatcher didnt die, the conductor/dj peck neck didnt die, mafia boss did die but thats an exception because of mustache girl, i have no clue about the flowers because they're flowers but i think they did die, if you beat the empress you dont even attack her so she doesnt die, and i have no clue for the boss in arctic cruise because im only at act 2.
If you’re talking about the Seal the Deal DLC, yes. You kill both of them.
@@notmakingactualvidsanymore6289 There is no boss for the Artic Cruise. Instead it's a rescue mission with a strict time limit.