Nice clear 'tutorial' on using this jig, which does a really nice job of slotting if you take the time to set up the jig properly. Thanks for this and your other videos, I find them *very* useful and always easy to follow.
At 6:48 it looks like your saw isn't squared to the fretboard. Maybe a few lessons from the young luthier right before would help your slot cutting a little.
is the position for the nut usable for a zero fret? Or if I wanted to use a nut I would cut backwards toward the headstock to make room for the nut? I assume with a zero fret this would mean the distance between the first fret and the nut would be a tiny bit greater?
@skeleon246 Good question and I guess that depends on how many guitars you plan to build. If the number is going to be increasing I would recommend the tablesaw method over the hand method
Pois é Robert. Comprei uma desta (Miter box) com o Miguel mas ainda não usei, Fiquei na dúvida de como seria o uso. Agora percebi que ainda me falta uma régua de slots.
Once the wood is flush to the underlying template I'm having a hard time seeing where the next slot is for the pin to be inserted. And the pin isn't such that I can slide the template fwd blindly until it drops into the next slot. Any tips for seeing this better? I'm wearing a head flash light and am using a fret scale template to get an idea where it is but would like to just easily identify the next slot without the extra steps. I have the two pc plexi templates that lock together and Im using the smaller side of the pin (since the other is too big for this template type). Thanks
Update: I figured out my process (for future readers with similar questions). Once I have the template taped to the fretboard, I pencil in an approx position of each slot as a point of reference once cutting. It made it so much easier to find the next pin position. The jig worked great! Thanks
looks too expensive to me. i went to the site and seen it. it seems to me other than the template if i'm handy enough to make a guitar i should be able to make a box for my saw, no?
Make sure you cut the slot deep enough so that you can radius and level your fretboard and still have enough depth. I find that about 3.5mm is sufficient to do all this and still have enough depth in the slot.
Actually, I had Jeff Bamburg of Bamburg guitars in my shop last year for a fan fret master class. I filmed it but just haven't had the time to edit it yet.
I would like to know how deep you should cut fret slots and when you radius your fret board if that changes things on the sides enough to worry about.if so how do you deal whith that
OBrienGuitars Does the LMI Fret Miter Box have bearings on top and bottom? I can't see any bearings below. I see in the video that you adjusted 2 horizontal bolts. Are they for adjustment of the left bearings into the saw?
Thank you Robert for the info. So am I correct to assume the horizontal bolts simply push against the saw blade for lower guidance? The Miter Box looks like it runs smooth in the video.
I used to have a sharpening business back in the 80s . . . and for good reason I asked because I wouldn't even bother sharpening these saws either. Too many little teeth~! Too long in labor. I buy a new hand saw once a year and twice if it's a busy year. How do you feel about the Japanese saw and their kerf widths? The ones I've found weren't .020" as advertised. I didn't search much more after getting burned on the first attempt, but I'd like to know as many sources for luthier tools as possible, and good ones that aren't necessarily advertising as luthier products either due to luthier products getting marked UP for that reason.
TheGrubification No. This is about cutting fret slots, not how to rape women and marry a Harpy. And if it was, he would have said "I did not have sexu... I mean I did not cut those fret slots with that jig."
Really cute kids that obviously "take after..." their dad. It's a shame it couldn't have been their mom but ya got no control over that stuff and they'll be ok; lol! 😏 (just an attempt at humor Mr. O - I think this is something I could not do; just half the thickness of a saw blade could affect things dramatically - geesh)
i love your technique and your tutorials but i think that was not manually cut ... for me manually cut was just a saw ang a measuring device.. you are using a machine.. i think if you do not used that jig.. that was manual for me... cheers...😁
No such thing as over engineering fret slotting devices. Templates have to be precise, why not the saw jig as well ? No slop, no way to make a bad cut, no inconsistent slots. Let the saw do the work. Life is good. Bob
I have that system if someone wants to buy it. Used it once only. Moved into an apartment, so can't use any of my guitar tools anymore. It's called a divorce. I also have a template.
Amazing, here I am 14 yrs later finding this video helpful. Your shop assistant is probably out of high school by now!
Nice clear 'tutorial' on using this jig, which does a really nice job of slotting if you take the time to set up the jig properly. Thanks for this and your other videos, I find them *very* useful and always easy to follow.
At 6:48 it looks like your saw isn't squared to the fretboard. Maybe a few lessons from the young luthier right before would help your slot cutting a little.
I think that might just be an optical illusion. It is pretty tough to be out of square with this setup.
what is the song at 5:50, ive heard stuart hamm do bass solo version of that song i think, just dont know what it is :D
is the position for the nut usable for a zero fret? Or if I wanted to use a nut I would cut backwards toward the headstock to make room for the nut? I assume with a zero fret this would mean the distance between the first fret and the nut would be a tiny bit greater?
You are correct. The first slot cut can be used as a zero fret or you can remove it and not have the zero fret.
Thank you! I am glad you are enjoying the videos!
@skeleon246 Good question and I guess that depends on how many guitars you plan to build. If the number is going to be increasing I would recommend the tablesaw method over the hand method
Pois é Robert. Comprei uma desta (Miter box) com o Miguel mas ainda não usei, Fiquei na dúvida de como seria o uso. Agora percebi que ainda me falta uma
régua de slots.
@JoylessBrotato This jig is not designed for doing fan frets. You will need to come up with your own method of doing that.
Once the wood is flush to the underlying template I'm having a hard time seeing where the next slot is for the pin to be inserted. And the pin isn't such that I can slide the template fwd blindly until it drops into the next slot. Any tips for seeing this better? I'm wearing a head flash light and am using a fret scale template to get an idea where it is but would like to just easily identify the next slot without the extra steps. I have the two pc plexi templates that lock together and Im using the smaller side of the pin (since the other is too big for this template type). Thanks
Update: I figured out my process (for future readers with similar questions). Once I have the template taped to the fretboard, I pencil in an approx position of each slot as a point of reference once cutting. It made it so much easier to find the next pin position. The jig worked great! Thanks
As always, great content - thanks for taking the time to post this!
Thanks for watching!
looks too expensive to me. i went to the site and seen it. it seems to me other than the template if i'm handy enough to make a guitar i should be able to make a box for my saw, no?
@MrZippitydo I cut my slots 2mm-2.5mm for non radiused fretboards and about 3mm for radiused fretboards
How do you ensure fret slot depth after you put a radius on the board? Is there another tool for that? Nice video and jig.
Make sure you cut the slot deep enough so that you can radius and level your fretboard and still have enough depth. I find that about 3.5mm is sufficient to do all this and still have enough depth in the slot.
Hi Bob, any chance you'll be showing us how to execute a fan fret in the near future?
Actually, I had Jeff Bamburg of Bamburg guitars in my shop last year for a fan fret master class. I filmed it but just haven't had the time to edit it yet.
OBrienGuitars aww man you got to! that'd be awesome
Is it uploaded yet?
Fret board
please tell me it is uploaded now
I would like to know how deep you should cut fret slots and when you radius your fret board if that changes things on the sides enough to worry about.if so how do you deal whith that
OBrienGuitars Does the LMI Fret Miter Box have bearings on top and bottom? I can't see any bearings below. I see in the video that you adjusted 2 horizontal bolts. Are they for adjustment of the left bearings into the saw?
Thank you Robert for the info. So am I correct to assume the horizontal bolts simply push against the saw blade for lower guidance? The Miter Box looks like it runs smooth in the video.
This jig is available from Luthiers mercantile International. You tube won't let me put a link but you can do a google search.
How much is your fretboard cutting hand saw millimeters?
It is .023 inches
I do not understand well how you cut the 'capo'
T.Y for this vidéo. But where can i buy the LMI manual fret slotting jig.
Upon closer inspection there are bearings underneath that stabilize the saw blade from below. My bad.
donde y como lo compro? soy de chile,gracias.
@JoylessBrotato why would ye want fanned frets?
Where can I get one❤️👍
www.lmii.com
Bench a bit wobbly?
Do you still have this for sale?
Thanks!
Where does one go to get these handsaws sharpened?
I usually buy another one. It is not real cost effective to have others sharpen them. Perhaps you could do it yourself if you know how.
I used to have a sharpening business back in the 80s . . . and for good reason I asked because I wouldn't even bother sharpening these saws either. Too many little teeth~! Too long in labor. I buy a new hand saw once a year and twice if it's a busy year. How do you feel about the Japanese saw and their kerf widths? The ones I've found weren't .020" as advertised. I didn't search much more after getting burned on the first attempt, but I'd like to know as many sources for luthier tools as possible, and good ones that aren't necessarily advertising as luthier products either due to luthier products getting marked UP for that reason.
Cuánto dinero cuesta esa máquina?,gracias
www.lmii.com/lmi-shop/2703-manual-fret-slotting-system.html
This jig only has bearings on the top.
Vc poderia mim informar onde eu compro essa serra
acho que Miguel da Musictools vende
muito bom mestre!!! parabéns pelos seus videos
I can't hear what is being said
Hmmm, should I buy this jig for $180, or should I just buy a $20 pre-slotted fretboard...
You get a like and subscribe from me, just for your 3 year old assistant. I thought that was funny AF🤣🤣
@jcabacu Puedes comprar via Luthiers Mercantile International e esta é la liga lmii (ponto) com
is bill clinton talking?
TheGrubification
No. This is about cutting fret slots, not how to rape women and marry a Harpy. And if it was, he would have said "I did not have sexu... I mean I did not cut those fret slots with that jig."
Luthiers Mercantile International has it for sale
www.lmii.com/fretting-tools/2703-manual-fret-slotting-system.html
Really cute kids that obviously "take after..." their dad. It's a shame it couldn't have been their mom but ya got no control over that stuff and they'll be ok; lol! 😏 (just an attempt at humor Mr. O - I think this is something I could not do; just half the thickness of a saw blade could affect things dramatically - geesh)
great video, very helpful
hey Obrien ;)
Very good Video !!
they should supply 2 small scale templetes for smaller guitars
great video... very helpful... thank you
I don't think I'll ever buy this. But I like to see how other people work.
Thank you Robert
The first cut is the deepest
Rod Stewert, Night on the Town album. Good song.
i love your technique and your tutorials but i think that was not manually cut ... for me manually cut was just a saw ang a measuring device.. you are using a machine.. i think if you do not used that jig.. that was manual for me... cheers...😁
Thanks for watching. It is a pretty fancy jig but I don't know if I would call it a machine.
No such thing as over engineering fret slotting devices. Templates have to be precise, why not the saw jig as well ? No slop, no way to make a bad cut, no inconsistent slots. Let the saw do the work. Life is good. Bob
Volume of your voice is way too low on all of your videos.
If you make lots of fretboard, I'd say it is a good tool to have. If you make 2 or 3 in your entire life, probably a waste of cash.
I have that system if someone wants to buy it.
Used it once only.
Moved into an apartment, so can't use any of my guitar tools anymore.
It's called a divorce.
I also have a template.