"Maybe I`ll have to invite you along next time so you can tell us all about it." _Wait a second, did ZUN just foreshadow CIrno being playable again in HSiFS?_
Well, although I think it's quite plausible that ZUN was already planning that, I also believe that in this context, Marisa just meant the next flower viewing party. And well, in "Wild and Horned Hermit" chap 45 they do invite her to a very small party with only 12 participants. In the following day, they made another party with the same guests, but aside from the mandatory ones, only Cirno showed up because the others couldn't tank Tenshi's "Heavenly Banquet". Although I only detailed this one, Cirno does come to several other flower viewing parties at the Hakurei Shrine, and Marisa is always interacting with fairies whenever she can.
@@Dyzinel Yeah, Cirno is at all the flower viewings in the mangas lately. The new Lotus Eaters one has her at the same parties as Remilia and Suika. Really rubbing elbows with giants here, Cirno.
Now that I think about it, Marisa is good friends with the Fairies of Light, isn't she? It honestly doesn't surprise me that she'd be good friends with other popular fairies like Cirno.
I love how this fight shows how strong Marisa really is especially in comparison to someone like crino when you're playing as Marisa against crino it's ridiculously easy but when you're playing as crino against Marisa it's the hardest fight in the game.
Cirno: "I'm the strongest in the fairy world!" at that moment Clownpiece looked up ominously and said "It's Lunatic time!" Intro to Great Fairy Wars 2, Clownpiece as final boss, Hecatia or Reimu as Extra boss.
Pretty sure the motivation thing is that in touhou, fairies are immortal, so unlike the humans who have to give up when they get hurt too badly, Cirno only gives up when she doesn’t care anymore
@@mielium5619 Depends on what you define as a victory. Cirno definitely became the strongest fairy until Clownpiece became a thing, but it's pretty clear that Cirno got really roughed up, until she went "Screw this, I'll just say I won and leave it at that!"
@@SharkLordProductions lmao. In my book, marisa just gave up and just "sure whatever" because she was tired(?). iirc she was surprised cirno survived that long despite being a fairy. Marisa went a tad serious on cirno at the last stretch. And im sure a normal (not counting clownpiece) fairy wouldve died. But idk. I think i shouldve worded it better.
I always thought that part of Fairy Destruction Ray where Marisa starts throwing fireballs at you was complete BS. Freezing can't save you now -o- "And now you're faacked" This is truth. I've been waiting to see this one and I was not disappointed! Also Ten Desires is going to be SOOOO easy after you've beaten this and UFO...
@@Blaze-ow8cc Maybe you don't use enough the trance ? I think it's mostly because of that that people call this game easy I never really blocked on a touhou game Or it's just that i'm too stubborn to stop when i can't so i continue until i can
@@izzymosley1970 Look, people skip the dialogue in touhou because they’re only recording their replay of the clear of the stage. When I was trying to beat Mokou, I probably attempted the extra stage over 15 times before I got my clear, and after that first attempt, I sure as hell wasn’t gonna read the dialogue every time. The replays also show exactly what you did, so if you skipped the dialogue while playing, the dialogue will skip in the replay. Also, if you want to play the game yourself, all Touhou games are free at the Moriya Shrine website. Touhou is literally public domain for some reason.
10:58. My favorite attack of the stage. Beyond that it's Master Spark, it's just so fun to avoid the stars The trick is to watch higher than you normally would
I really like this game........even though I haven't been able to beat it even on normal mode, hell I have only been able to beat it on easy with continues. In my opinion one of the hardest ones in the series. But I love the idea of playing as Cirno so much I don't really mind. They did a really good job with her character too.
the 12s were seemingly based on quarters but rounded to 1 decimal place. 12.25 became 12.3, 12.5 stayed as is and 12.75 became 12.8... it only occured to me after writing that out that 9 is Cirno's number
Who says this game is easy? I barely even cleared one path in Easy mode without continues. Definitely not a game for beginners. At least seeing your multiple playthroughs and insights made me wanna try it up again, to see if I got any better in the past 2 years So, now that you've completed the game, what do you think of fighting against Marisa, seeing that you use her in the other games whenever permitted?
+korohacker I could do without... I much prefer shooting lasers to getting shot by lasers. And it's weird, the game isn't easy per say, but it gets easier as you play it. It was really hard when I started, but after beating Route A1 and A2 the game pretty much unfolded from there. Once I knew what I was getting into and how to contend with it everything got much simpler.
7:33 Well, considering fairies don't die... there's too many perspectives to consider. 11:17 that... can make sense. You know, this Is Gensokyo we're talking about >.> 14:20 Meteor Sto- Oi! I just saw my comment here... oh, I have watched this already :'D [Edit] 16:15 I've seen worse... Ever heard of *"Mega Desctruction Dark Ball of Darkness and Destruction!* (..and knuckles)"? [well, It's not even from touhou or any video game, tho xD] [17:28 Many of the touhou videos I see, people love moving In sync with the soundtrack lol]
Nah, Marisa won by a long shot (ba dum tss) When you look at the conversation scene, Cirno's clothes are completely burned while Marisa still looks pretty peachy. Sure, Marisa got a little tired, but that's about it
i mean, 1 cant freeze fire bullets (which i guess doesnt really appear outside of this game) 2 cant freeze lasers. Not to say actually lethal lasers and at least one is a reliable way to overkill Cirno.
It seems to be a thing in the spin off bullet hells (and also LoLK). Basically, in those games you are constantly facing some of the most rediculous patterns in the series, but you are given a tool to deal with them. Cirno has perfect freeze, Seija gets her weird tools, LoLK gives you Eiren’s funky drug (pointdevice), and Aya only gets sent back to the start of the pattern.
Go for TD normal no bomb no trance or TD hard. Trust me. You'll just blitz TD normal with no problem if you do your 'play normally, occasionally bomb' mentality.
You can, they'll just revive some time later. If Marisa used her normal lasers, they'd blast the hell out of Cirno instantly instead slowly draining her health.
I pick up my Touhou games from the Moriya Shrine www.moriyashrine.org/ If you just want to quickly jump to the Extra Stage you can also download the scorefile from there as well to unlock everything.
It's essentially your life bar, cause Cirno will only keep going so long as she's motivated to do so. Freezing things increases her motivation while getting hit drops it by 100 and if you reach zero it's game over.
I love how in the end Cirno is the one who's got all beaten up and still saying "that's enough for you".
and then Marisa said that it's her line
"Maybe I`ll have to invite you along next time so you can tell us all about it."
_Wait a second, did ZUN just foreshadow CIrno being playable again in HSiFS?_
Well, although I think it's quite plausible that ZUN was already planning that, I also believe that in this context, Marisa just meant the next flower viewing party. And well, in "Wild and Horned Hermit" chap 45 they do invite her to a very small party with only 12 participants. In the following day, they made another party with the same guests, but aside from the mandatory ones, only Cirno showed up because the others couldn't tank Tenshi's "Heavenly Banquet". Although I only detailed this one, Cirno does come to several other flower viewing parties at the Hakurei Shrine, and Marisa is always interacting with fairies whenever she can.
@@Dyzinel Yeah, Cirno is at all the flower viewings in the mangas lately. The new Lotus Eaters one has her at the same parties as Remilia and Suika. Really rubbing elbows with giants here, Cirno.
@@davidh8271 well... what else are you supposed to do when you are the stwongest fairy of all time?
Now that I think about it, Marisa is good friends with the Fairies of Light, isn't she? It honestly doesn't surprise me that she'd be good friends with other popular fairies like Cirno.
And years later, Cirno actually got the chance to fight youkai. Granted, she was boosted up for that, but still.
DoctorNovakaine And still only won because they held back by a lot
Everyone else was boosted up sooo....
But you gotta give credits for her in the extra, she won against okina (though i think boosted up by eternity)
Jenson G she was slightly handicapped if i recall correctly
@Dung Tran Quang Yes, Cirno after 12.3 have the power of a regular or mediam youkai
I love how this fight shows how strong Marisa really is especially in comparison to someone like crino when you're playing as Marisa against crino it's ridiculously easy but when you're playing as crino against Marisa it's the hardest fight in the game.
@SolkMining Touhou 8 Stage 4b flashbacks*
Cirno: "I'm the strongest in the fairy world!" at that moment Clownpiece looked up ominously and said "It's Lunatic time!" Intro to Great Fairy Wars 2, Clownpiece as final boss, Hecatia or Reimu as Extra boss.
I'd say Hecatia because she is a God
that game would be hell, i think.
Ethereal Swordsman was that a pun?
@@Latency345 hey! It was a good pun! Don't give me hec for it...
Ethereal Swordsman was it?
Cirno is literally powered by motivation.
Also, i love how this person playing is moving to the beat of the music during the dialogue.
Pretty sure the motivation thing is that in touhou, fairies are immortal, so unlike the humans who have to give up when they get hurt too badly, Cirno only gives up when she doesn’t care anymore
Sounds like undertale
"You are a Super Player!!!"
Omg,ZUN brings back to congratulate us after playing extra (like in SoEW and LLS)
t h e g a m e i s c l e a r
y o u a r e *s u p e r p l a y e r*
with those orb things, I can safely say that Marisa was clownpiece before clownpiece was clownpiece.
Ikr XD
I don't think she's at my level but she is pretty difficult.
@@clownpiss4828 piss
@@clownpiss4828 America
If those are Marisa Orbs, then I don't want to know what are MIMA Orbs.....
>Tower of Pisa cake
oh I am so using that lmao
Cirno: *challenges Marisa*
Marisa: *wins*
Cirno: :O
Technically no. Cirno wins. But like. Cirno is the one getting beat up xD. Imagine ur the one gettig beat up but still won xD
She won because Marisa handicapped herself
@BladeCast as i said not exactly lmao. She wins at the same time doesnt. But i guess your headcanon is yours i guess xD
@@mielium5619 Depends on what you define as a victory. Cirno definitely became the strongest fairy until Clownpiece became a thing, but it's pretty clear that Cirno got really roughed up, until she went "Screw this, I'll just say I won and leave it at that!"
@@SharkLordProductions lmao. In my book, marisa just gave up and just "sure whatever" because she was tired(?). iirc she was surprised cirno survived that long despite being a fairy. Marisa went a tad serious on cirno at the last stretch. And im sure a normal (not counting clownpiece) fairy wouldve died. But idk. I think i shouldve worded it better.
Cirno is dancing in the background during most of the dialogue parts lol
I thought it was hilarious😂
9:48 she’s literally testing new spells on Cirno lol
I always thought that part of Fairy Destruction Ray where Marisa starts throwing fireballs at you was complete BS.
Freezing can't save you now -o-
"And now you're faacked" This is truth.
I've been waiting to see this one and I was not disappointed!
Also Ten Desires is going to be SOOOO easy after you've beaten this and UFO...
It isn't called "Fairy Destruction Ray" for nothing
After beating SA, i destroyed UFO so i played TD on hard. It was still quite easy
@@poledra4153 am I the only damn person in the world who beat SA on hard but can't beat TD on easy?
@@Blaze-ow8cc
Maybe you don't use enough the trance ?
I think it's mostly because of that that people call this game easy
I never really blocked on a touhou game
Or it's just that i'm too stubborn to stop when i can't so i continue until i can
@@poledra4153 i never use trance because I always forget about it
Finally someone who doesn’t just insta skip the dialogue
I know right it's great to see someone who doesn't skip the interactions it's fun reading them even if you don't own the game.
@@izzymosley1970 Look, people skip the dialogue in touhou because they’re only recording their replay of the clear of the stage. When I was trying to beat Mokou, I probably attempted the extra stage over 15 times before I got my clear, and after that first attempt, I sure as hell wasn’t gonna read the dialogue every time. The replays also show exactly what you did, so if you skipped the dialogue while playing, the dialogue will skip in the replay. Also, if you want to play the game yourself, all Touhou games are free at the Moriya Shrine website. Touhou is literally public domain for some reason.
10:58. My favorite attack of the stage.
Beyond that it's Master Spark, it's just so fun to avoid the stars
The trick is to watch higher than you normally would
It looks like the whole point of making the game was that last battle. That one was pretty cool in my opinion.
I really like this game........even though I haven't been able to beat it even on normal mode, hell I have only been able to beat it on easy with continues. In my opinion one of the hardest ones in the series. But I love the idea of playing as Cirno so much I don't really mind. They did a really good job with her character too.
Still wonder why they didn't call it Touhou 12.9
Steveluvscows cause 7 ate 9
@@starolodstar1782 so much 8
the 12s were seemingly based on quarters but rounded to 1 decimal place. 12.25 became 12.3, 12.5 stayed as is and 12.75 became 12.8...
it only occured to me after writing that out that 9 is Cirno's number
This is what fighting Marisa is like in the perception of a fairy.
Wait, ignorantly speaking, wouldn’t Marisa’s light and heat magic counteract Cirno’s ice by melting it?
That's why she is not using her lasers at full power and go easy on Cirno.
she probably toned down the heat significantly but still made them glow to be pretty.
danmaku battles are all about showing off, after all.
@@shinkuroi5954
"It ain't magic if it ain't flashy da zee" -Kirisame Marisa
Cirno is not an idiot
She is The Strongest of idiots.
Who says this game is easy? I barely even cleared one path in Easy mode without continues. Definitely not a game for beginners. At least seeing your multiple playthroughs and insights made me wanna try it up again, to see if I got any better in the past 2 years
So, now that you've completed the game, what do you think of fighting against Marisa, seeing that you use her in the other games whenever permitted?
+korohacker I could do without... I much prefer shooting lasers to getting shot by lasers.
And it's weird, the game isn't easy per say, but it gets easier as you play it. It was really hard when I started, but after beating Route A1 and A2 the game pretty much unfolded from there. Once I knew what I was getting into and how to contend with it everything got much simpler.
It's not easy, but it's really fun.
7:33 Well, considering fairies don't die... there's too many perspectives to consider.
11:17 that... can make sense. You know, this Is Gensokyo we're talking about >.>
14:20 Meteor Sto- Oi! I just saw my comment here... oh, I have watched this already :'D
[Edit] 16:15 I've seen worse...
Ever heard of *"Mega Desctruction Dark Ball of Darkness and Destruction!* (..and knuckles)"?
[well, It's not even from touhou or any video game, tho xD]
[17:28 Many of the touhou videos I see, people love moving In sync with the soundtrack lol]
Alternative title: "Marisa fucking kills Cirno with a flashlight" Nice win btw
I mean this is pretty bad but could you imagine if you had to fight Utsuho? Everything is fireballs!!!
not to mention mokou. counting that they're inmortal in both different ways, it all just depends on their motivation!
And fire. Lots of fire.
gg ice fairy
Cirno as Little Mac. I approve of this.
Well that was fucking insane even with Marisa holding back. I mean good lords there was danmaku all over the damn place!
Ten Desires hype. Buddhism > Taoism though.
i don't care, Miko's a nice design, and that's all that's important!
@@SUPAREALcutechickdGaming pastafarianism > christianity.
You never got to see Cirno at max level ;_;
It's pretty pointless though
+Chang Jia Yang omnidirectional icicles!=D
ok wait...now two characters have specific spell cards? Reimu and Marisa...Who's next?
mamizou!
jeez bullet hell gamers are trully built different, I wouldn't be able to take this much pressure for sure
CIRNO IS DA BEST NO MORE!
CAUSE CLOWNPIECE HAS ARRIVED!!!
I didn’t know that grazing enemies’ bullets would charge your freeze faster.
Wouldn't it be funny if they made sequel to this with Clownpiece as the extra boss?
Marisa didn't want to admit that she got beaten or lost to Cirno of all people even at her full power
Cirno did end it and got beaten up while Marisa didn’t tho...
@Dr. Phil lol
Nah, Marisa won by a long shot
(ba dum tss)
When you look at the conversation scene, Cirno's clothes are completely burned while Marisa still looks pretty peachy.
Sure, Marisa got a little tired, but that's about it
@kn-jt9dj not a long shot if you look at marisa's dialouge, but she did win
I really wanted to watch it in SnoopaVision, then I realized that we ice fairies aren't very bright.
14:20 Meteor Storm!
This has to be one of the longest extra stages
Touhou infinity wars
5:55 cirno be groovin'
You think one of this people watch this. And have died due to covid-19?
Adolf Swatler what the fuck
@@adolfswatler6817 Why would you think of that
@@adolfswatler6817 That's just sad
Bloody imagine some people started watching one piece or Detective conan last 2 months and Died Before seeing the rest of the show.
5:53 jamming
Shit, cirno is strong, but a fairy against a human is a free win to human
Alright, question. With that bullet-freezing ability, how does she ever lose again?
Because she is an idiot?
Because cirno is the biggest baka~
well I think Shou and Clownpiece would like to have a word with Cirno with their curvy and murica lasers
i mean,
1 cant freeze fire bullets (which i guess doesnt really appear outside of this game)
2 cant freeze lasers. Not to say actually lethal lasers
and at least one is a reliable way to overkill Cirno.
MASTER SPARK!
I cant finish the game yet :c
Why didn’t zun have her freezing bullets in the other games like hsifs?
way too op, and would be unfair for other characters lol
It seems to be a thing in the spin off bullet hells (and also LoLK). Basically, in those games you are constantly facing some of the most rediculous patterns in the series, but you are given a tool to deal with them. Cirno has perfect freeze, Seija gets her weird tools, LoLK gives you Eiren’s funky drug (pointdevice), and Aya only gets sent back to the start of the pattern.
Go for TD normal no bomb no trance or TD hard.
Trust me. You'll just blitz TD normal with no problem if you do your 'play normally, occasionally bomb' mentality.
You are THE STRONGESTETH!!
what is this talk about non lethal lazers? you cant kill a Fairy to begin with.
You can, they'll just revive some time later. If Marisa used her normal lasers, they'd blast the hell out of Cirno instantly instead slowly draining her health.
its not even a real laser, its just a light so when cirno flies into it she literally loses actual motivation to keep the fight going
@Ross the Chihuahua 2 you’d honestly believe she would be that mean?
you are super player
This isn't the first time Cirno beats Marisa, in Touhou 9 you can fight her
Well cirno Lost on GFW
Marisa isn't that hard, it's the stage itself that's overly cruel
I find the stage to be the easiest out of any extra stage
The lack of fire bullets really makes it not that bad
Marisa is such a long fight tho
How do you unlock this extra stage? I've 1CCed Normal and I still didn't get it?
Did you 1CC every route?
@@carloscastellanosdarkeyesi6126 Lmao that comment was posted a year ago, now I completed several Extra Stages! Thank you, though!
this game is so fucking hard but I can't stop playing it cause its so much fun! I need help XD
FAIRY WARS FAIRY WARS ????????????????????? *chara just yeets out of the room in fear that he will go through a death loop forever*
1:25
_Where's your motivation?_
I can imagine this running on my computer at 10 fps
HEY! can you give me the game. i can't get the extra because my pc sucks. im not a bad player but i need play this level
I pick up my Touhou games from the Moriya Shrine
www.moriyashrine.org/
If you just want to quickly jump to the Extra Stage you can also download the scorefile from there as well to unlock everything.
MegamanOmega184 thanks a lot
@@MegamanOmega184 Eyy it's the Moriya Shrine
So I never got this what does motivation do?
It's essentially your life bar, cause Cirno will only keep going so long as she's motivated to do so. Freezing things increases her motivation while getting hit drops it by 100 and if you reach zero it's game over.
MegamanOmega184 I understand thank you
Initial d 2nd stage
The only reason that the light blast is little moon is freeze
If there wasnt freeze then cirno would be dead assuming the classic instant life loss
6:20 im italian and i go to school at pisa, so what the fuck means a torre di pisa cake? this just dont make any sense
I think it's supposed to be some kind of pun, since Pisa sounds a little bit like "piece of".