"I'm his dad." "You're the son I chose." EE don't often get it right, but when they do...chills. This relationship is so important and has such a legacy, and the show has only just come around to realising it.
Are they supposed to excuse every bad behavior from Jay because he is grieving? should they let him bring drugs in the house and let him be high around Lexi? In defense of Ben he was dealing with his SA and Lola's illness and death.
@@kpoca914no jays grief shouldn’t be an excuse however they should’ve been at least empathetic. Ben wasn’t even there when lola died. That can’t be blamed on being sexually assaulted
Just can’t believe how they can stand there after disowning him if he didn’t crash they still wouldn’t want to have anything to do with him so sad he had to do this
@gothicgolem2947 Then he should seek help and get sober, then reconnect with Lexi, but Jay refused any change till now. There are tons of people grieving, the world would implode, if they all made choices like Jay...
This is Eastenders, predictable as ever, everyone knew he wasn't going to be killed off, he'd end up seriously injured, in a coma, predictably everyone then comes running to say how sorry they are for treating him the way they treated him, he'll eventually recover, after much angst, and self loathing, he'll see the light, give up on his self destructive pathway, and will be welcomed back into the Mitchell crime syndicate with open arms, until the next self loathing episode from the crime syndicate takes hold, and it's rinse and repeat yet again. This is what this show constantly reverts to, old habits die hard on this show of constant misery!
Firstly they aren’t a crime syndicate secondly how is eastenders predicable???would you have predicted Lola’s death before this year? Plus you never said this would happen before this episode no one did so it’s hardly predictable
@@gothicgolem2947 yes they very much are a crime syndicate, constantly engaging with the underworld, why do you think fathead Phil keeps repeating the old mantra " I ain't a grass '" schpiel whenever the cops are probing anything to do with criminal activities, where his family might be involved.
@@gothicgolem2947 of course anyone with a brain would have predicted Lola's death, once she was given her terminal diagnosis relating to her brain tumour. Eastenders is predictable, because its the same rinse and repeat misery fest storylines they keep churning out like an unending conveyor belt. Where have you been all these years? Down a rabbit hole?
@@KC-wv3eh Ben had to force Phil taking in a homeless Jay, because Phil wasn't having it, Ben even slept with Jay outside till Phil caved. When Jay did drugs (this isn't the first time) in the past, Ben convinced him to quit it. Ben and Callum took Jay in immediately after Lola's death, and would have continued that, if not for Jay's drug use around Lexi, so many lies, and neglect of his PR duties. I have never given Ben endless slack (he has done awful things, but that is not the matter here), but Jay is a 30-year-old now, no longer the teenager he used to be, he had plenty of time to disengage and choose not to. On the one hand you call the Mitchells all criminals (which they are), and shake your fist at them "abandoning" Jay...on the other hand they aren't good enough for "Saint Jay" and he should ditch them...what is it going to be now...
Jay lost his parents like his mum Karen Brown died from breast cancer in 2004, and his dad Jase Dyer died from the stab wounds after being stabbed by Terry Bates in 2008
Bit late for tears Billy the way you've all treated him not noticed he's been struggling since losing lola
Exactly this reminds me of how they all treated him after he had the incident when that girl Star. They all abandoned him
Lola would have chucked Jay out for doing drugs around her daughter just the same, even much sooner than the patience Ben and Callum had.
@@Bruced82he would not have been doing drugs if Lola was here so idk why that’s a fair comparison
@gothicgolem2947 Because people like you accuse Ben of actions, that Lola would have done also, chuck Jay out...
He’s allowed to be sorry. It’s what families do.
"I'm his dad."
"You're the son I chose."
EE don't often get it right, but when they do...chills. This relationship is so important and has such a legacy, and the show has only just come around to realising it.
It's so strange that nobody holds Ben accountable for his behavior leading up to lolas death. They should have been there for him from the start
Ben and Callum immediately took him into their house, Ben gave Jay PR, they still tried to make it work out, but Jay just wouldn't quit his drug use.
Are they supposed to excuse every bad behavior from Jay because he is grieving? should they let him bring drugs in the house and let him be high around Lexi? In defense of Ben he was dealing with his SA and Lola's illness and death.
@@kpoca914well said.
@@Bruced82Ben wasn’t there when Lola died actually . Read the comment carefully. Lola requested the PR actually.
@@kpoca914no jays grief shouldn’t be an excuse however they should’ve been at least empathetic. Ben wasn’t even there when lola died. That can’t be blamed on being sexually assaulted
Just can’t believe how they can stand there after disowning him if he didn’t crash they still wouldn’t want to have anything to do with him so sad he had to do this
If Jay had waited for Gina, and not drive while being high, he wouldn't be here either...
@@Bruced82people make bad decisions in grief and when high on drugs
Yh I find it quite weird how the story line took that turn. I can't begin to imagine this sort of behaviour in real life..the man lost his wife.
@gothicgolem2947 Then he should seek help and get sober, then reconnect with Lexi, but Jay refused any change till now. There are tons of people grieving, the world would implode, if they all made choices like Jay...
If he didn’t crash..they were a,ways going to make up, he’s part of the Mitchel family..also lexi loves him
Kinda weird hearing Billy talking about Jay like that with Honey knowing Honey and Jay had a thing 😂😂
I thought the same this.
The writers messed up with that storyline.
I hope Jay survive Maybe George needs to give Jay a another chance because he hardly knows what Jay has been through his whole life.
No apparently he dies beginning of next year we don't know tho
Exactly x
Another chance at what? Jay should be single for a while Lola has just died
Jay pls don't die 😢😢
look at them all sat on there phones...... how depressing.
Plz don't die Jay plz
You said ,he was dead to you billy
Funny how the tables turned just cuz Jay was in a accident so typical
Mad when someone hurt people want to know when they lonely they dont
Hes in a coma bless him
Yes
Brilliant. Acting. Best
He's. Done 😊
If they kill Jay off I stop watching Eastenders for good
Actor wants out. Can't blame him... He deserves to be the main character
Sad
And yes i liked my own comments
Lexi need you she can't say goodbye to anther parent ❤
This is Eastenders, predictable as ever, everyone knew he wasn't going to be killed off, he'd end up seriously injured, in a coma, predictably everyone then comes running to say how sorry they are for treating him the way they treated him, he'll eventually recover, after much angst, and self loathing, he'll see the light, give up on his self destructive pathway, and will be welcomed back into the Mitchell crime syndicate with open arms, until the next self loathing episode from the crime syndicate takes hold, and it's rinse and repeat yet again. This is what this show constantly reverts to, old habits die hard on this show of constant misery!
Jay has been a willing participant into the "Mitchell crime syndicate" for years, he knew and was fine with all of it.
Firstly they aren’t a crime syndicate secondly how is eastenders predicable???would you have predicted Lola’s death before this year? Plus you never said this would happen before this episode no one did so it’s hardly predictable
@@gothicgolem2947 yes they very much are a crime syndicate, constantly engaging with the underworld, why do you think fathead Phil keeps repeating the old mantra " I ain't a grass '" schpiel whenever the cops are probing anything to do with criminal activities, where his family might be involved.
@@gothicgolem2947 of course anyone with a brain would have predicted Lola's death, once she was given her terminal diagnosis relating to her brain tumour. Eastenders is predictable, because its the same rinse and repeat misery fest storylines they keep churning out like an unending conveyor belt. Where have you been all these years? Down a rabbit hole?
@@KC-wv3eh Ben had to force Phil taking in a homeless Jay, because Phil wasn't having it, Ben even slept with Jay outside till Phil caved. When Jay did drugs (this isn't the first time) in the past, Ben convinced him to quit it.
Ben and Callum took Jay in immediately after Lola's death, and would have continued that, if not for Jay's drug use around Lexi, so many lies, and neglect of his PR duties.
I have never given Ben endless slack (he has done awful things, but that is not the matter here), but Jay is a 30-year-old now, no longer the teenager he used to be, he had plenty of time to disengage and choose not to.
On the one hand you call the Mitchells all criminals (which they are), and shake your fist at them "abandoning" Jay...on the other hand they aren't good enough for "Saint Jay" and he should ditch them...what is it going to be now...
Jay lost his parents like his mum Karen Brown died from breast cancer in 2004, and his dad Jase Dyer died from the stab wounds after being stabbed by Terry Bates in 2008
Keanue
Aye the son that married your granddaughter
Don't think about it too hard, eh?
😂😂
hypocrite enders😂😂😂😂
Does that mean Jay is dead? X
NO.
No, he's just unconscious for now
No one knows for sure.
he dies
@derekporter66 No he won't.
Universal Credit TV
yet here you are
@grilledcheese9297 Do you feel offended
@@jasbindersidhu which you pay for.
@@blademanxgood point 😊
Ur only crying because u haven't bn there
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