Michael, thank you for this video. I don't have an smart phone, so it is good to hear the tones here in order to tune the marini made harp. Thank you again. benjamin:)
Thank you for the lucid and interesting explanation of just intonation. I'm studying electric bass, but I really like the tone of those intervals you're playing.
It is a great pity it's no longer available on Google Play - I now have the Clear Tune App painstakingly preserved on my 2 aging iPods & via a data transfer app to my Samsung cell phone! Regarding some form of useable alternative, you could try contacting a very niche microtonal music forum Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/xenharmonic2/?ref=share If they suggest any form of just intonation tuning app which is not too mind-bogglingly mathematical, do please let me know!
Hello! I just found this video while looking for new sounds to experiment with, so this is really helpful! May i ask how can a fretless guitar be tuned using this kind of Systems and how can i experiment and play with them in my instrument? Again i'm very new to this world although i have some knowledge of music theory being a music student
A fretless guitar can certainly be played in just intonation (so long as you do not follow any of the fret markings which may run along the side, as all guitar fretboard have their fret positions calculated for equal temperament!). The knack is then to be able to produce perfect intervals - this can also be achieved by matching with your left hand fingers, the same pitches as the harmonics produced by say, the bottom string.
Using the ClearTune App, I recommend the 'Pythagorean Just Intonation' setting. The 'temperament root' you need to select for this setting of the App, means the starting note of whichever mode you are tuning to (so if you want a mode with a starting pitch of D, select D as the temperament root).
Did you presumably adjust the position of the frets in order to achieve this? The regular guitar fingerboard fret positions are of course calibrated to produce equal temperament intervals.
Persian Bright - I would imagine that a regular harmonica is unfortunately manufactured pre-tuned in equal temperament so that it can be played with other modern out of phase, always slightly out of tune equal temperament! A similar situation with modern fretted instruments such as guitar or mandolin - the position of the frets are calculated so that they generate intervals in equal temperament
Im honestly confused on how to tune a lyre no matter how many videos i end up watching. Ive had bad experiences tuning instruments. Are all of the different tones the same? Or are they only different depending on where you play on the instrument. Id honestly just like to know how to tune my lyre when i get it! Dorian and Hypophrygian
Little Lionn - 7 strings are problematic, as it is necessary to miss a note out somewhere in every 8 note mode that it is tuned to: ancientlyre.com/blogs/how_did_the_ancient_greeks_tune_a_7_string_lyre_/
So if im getting this correctly, the further upwards you place your fingers the higher the pitch? and that in turn replaces the notes of which its missing?
Thank you so much my friend! That helps me a lot! Blessings
Michael, thank you for this video. I don't have an smart phone, so it is good to hear the tones here in order to tune the marini made harp.
Thank you again.
benjamin:)
Thank you for the lucid and interesting explanation of just intonation. I'm studying electric bass, but I really like the tone of those intervals you're playing.
It seems the Clear Tune app is no longer available outside iOS. Do you have another recommendation? Thanks for the video!
It is a great pity it's no longer available on Google Play - I now have the Clear Tune App painstakingly preserved on my 2 aging iPods & via a data transfer app to my Samsung cell phone! Regarding some form of useable alternative, you could try contacting a very niche microtonal music forum Facebook group:
facebook.com/groups/xenharmonic2/?ref=share
If they suggest any form of just intonation tuning app which is not too mind-bogglingly mathematical, do please let me know!
Hello! I just found this video while looking for new sounds to experiment with, so this is really helpful! May i ask how can a fretless guitar be tuned using this kind of Systems and how can i experiment and play with them in my instrument? Again i'm very new to this world although i have some knowledge of music theory being a music student
A fretless guitar can certainly be played in just intonation (so long as you do not follow any of the fret markings which may run along the side, as all guitar fretboard have their fret positions calculated for equal temperament!). The knack is then to be able to produce perfect intervals - this can also be achieved by matching with your left hand fingers, the same pitches as the harmonics produced by say, the bottom string.
@@MichaelLevyMusic Thank you so much for the info! I'll try this
What temperament should I use for my 16 string lyre, tuned with "D E F# G A B C# D E F# G A B C# D E"?
Using the ClearTune App, I recommend the 'Pythagorean Just Intonation' setting. The 'temperament root' you need to select for this setting of the App, means the starting note of whichever mode you are tuning to (so if you want a mode with a starting pitch of D, select D as the temperament root).
@@MichaelLevyMusic OK thank you, and I meant to say temperament root. Thanks again :).
I use the same app with electric guitar, tuned to D A D F#-15cents C-30cents D
Did you presumably adjust the position of the frets in order to achieve this? The regular guitar fingerboard fret positions are of course calibrated to produce equal temperament intervals.
@@MichaelLevyMusic no just an open just chord
Thanks . I am trying to use it for Harmonica What temperament should I choose?
Persian Bright - I would imagine that a regular harmonica is unfortunately manufactured pre-tuned in equal temperament so that it can be played with other modern out of phase, always slightly out of tune equal temperament!
A similar situation with modern fretted instruments such as guitar or mandolin - the position of the frets are calculated so that they generate intervals in equal temperament
No sir Harmonicas have different tuning, Some harmonicas are equal temperament while most have compromised tuning .
What about a 7 string lyre? For both Dorian and Hypophrygian modes?
Im honestly confused on how to tune a lyre no matter how many videos i end up watching. Ive had bad experiences tuning instruments.
Are all of the different tones the same? Or are they only different depending on where you play on the instrument.
Id honestly just like to know how to tune my lyre when i get it! Dorian and Hypophrygian
Little Lionn - 7 strings are problematic, as it is necessary to miss a note out somewhere in every 8 note mode that it is tuned to:
ancientlyre.com/blogs/how_did_the_ancient_greeks_tune_a_7_string_lyre_/
So if im getting this correctly, the further upwards you place your fingers the higher the pitch? and that in turn replaces the notes of which its missing?
Down one half step and in A=432 hz is my go-to tuning for just about everything.
"pure" until you get that pesky wolftone