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  • @kremamorasses6194
    @kremamorasses6194 Рік тому

    In God we trust

  • @RandyRoth-mo3lz
    @RandyRoth-mo3lz Рік тому

    I have a hard time entertaining anyone who might suggest that a rapture event would only happen to some who are saved, but not others (not suggesting that happened in the video). One simply cannot separate salvation as the only requirement in order to partake in the event. Therefore, if we are not saved by works....Eph 2:8,9.... neither can we be 'raptured' by works. That brings us to various "rapture" passages that "support", "allude to ", and "suggest" the 'rapture ideal....offered in the video... for no Scripture actually states the opposite of Christ (antichrist...1 John 2:18,19)...Matt 24;29-31... that is a rapture prior to tribulation. Rev 3:10, Luke 21:36, etc all show 'works" that have to be accomplished in order to receive the reward... for instance... Christ tells us in Luke to "Pray always, that you may be counted WORTHY to escape..." If escape is equivalent to rapture, then Christ just told you to do the work of 'praying always, so that you would be worthy enough to be raptured.... Not only does this offer a salvation of works.... it suggests praying a sinners prayer over and over and over again, because the only prerequisite for being raptured is to get saved. Not to mention, that prayer would reduce the prayer to a complete lack of faith and we are saved by grace through faith... not of works...Eph 2:8,9
    Likewise Rev 3:10 also shows that one church is promised to be kept from trial, because of their worthiness of their actions. Never does this passage ever suggest that anyone is taken out.... except for Darby's translation (the father of dispensationalism and the rapture view). Christ prayed, " I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.", John 17:15. Everyone, in every generation has experienced the hour of trial.... it indeed comes upon the whole world. So often, the trial is what we do with truth. Everyone knows the truth... it's the excuses that we make for it that define us.

  • @RandyRoth-mo3lz
    @RandyRoth-mo3lz Рік тому

    Next you offer the abomination of desolation.... The disciples asked Christ 3 questions ....Matt 24:3... I've already addressed the last question of the 3 in the Noah and Lot presentation, however we now are addressing the 1st of the disciples question because this is the order that you have chosen. The disciples asked 3 question, and Christ answered all three questions in order in each of the Olivet Discourse accounts. The first question is about the destruction of the 2nd temple. Christ just finished telling them that not one stone of the temple would be left upon another, and they asked, "When shall these things be...?."
    If you were to ask a used car salesman about the condition of blue car and He knew you were talking about the blue car, but instead told you about the condition concerning the red car, as if those attributes applied to the blue car as well... he would be deceptively lying. However, the rapturists somehow think that it's okay to ignore the disciples direct question about the 2nd temple... and now slip in a 3rd temple as if Christ is some high stakes lawyer deceiving the masses. The worst part about the pretrib view is the fact that they attempt to make Christ into a liar, over and over again. Jesus answered them saying.... Matt 24:4. Jesus answers their direct question with a direct answer.... they ask about the temple... and He answers them about the SAME temple.
    This fact is extremely simple to understand...however, the reason take issue, is because they cannot separate the events of 70 AD until the time Christ answered the 2nd part is the fact that Christ connects the two with "immediately after the tribulation of those days..." Instead of understanding what the tribulation is... they refer to Darby's singular interpretation of Daniel's 70th week and his bogus ideal of the time of Jacob's Trouble.. totally ignoring the fact that Darby came up with these singular interpretations prior to the Pony Express.... Horseback was the fastest mode of transportation when Daniel sealed up the book... Dan 12:4.... it wasn't' unsealed with Darby came up with his wild haired ideals. The book of Daniel didn't become unsealed until after mass transportation and the internet.
    The powers of the heavens (dudamas of oranos(uranium) have yet to be shaken... the 2nd question of verse 3, of the sign of His coming has yet to occur, but it happens immediately after the tribulation of those days. The tribulation isn't 7 years... never was, never will be. The time of Jacobs' Trouble is a 2 chapter prophesy... Jer 30,31... it is the worst time ever for Israel. Today 6.5 million Jews live in Israel. During the Jewish Diaspora around 13 million Jews were killed... this included 6 million by the Nazis. The time of Jacob's trouble shows that Israel is scattered to the nations.. Jer 30:10,11 and later gathered... Jer 31;8.... that tribulation is not over until all of the Jews are gathered... or nuked.
    Indeed Artizerksies IV was referenced by Christ, but the fact that he entered beyond the court of gentiles made him an abomination... Ez. 44:5-7.... just the fact that he had an uncircumsized heart made him an abomination. That occured again when the temple was destroyed... it matters not if Titus declared himself to be god in the temple or not... as some claim.... His army setting foot inside was an abomination.
    Daniel 11 is so historically accurate that many atheist historians insist that it wasn't written by him, but someone else after Alexander the Great.... however the history continues until the time of Roman rule in verse 41,42 which included the Glorious Land, but not Ammon, Edom etc. Therefore when Dan 12 starts with "AT THAT TIME..." which also addresses the worst time ever for Israel...it references the time of the Romans.... the resurrection spoken of in the first 3 verses includes the wicked along side the righteous... at the time of the resurrection of the dead... only the righteous are resurrected... Rev 20:4-6... the rest of the dead (wicked) remain dead for 1000 years. that resurrection occurred when Christ went to Paradise/sheol and is recorded multiple times... one in Matt 27:52.
    The In 4th mention of the worst time ever for Israel it is recorded in Joel 1,2... this is a continuous prophesy for the 2 chapters... Peter declares this passage to be fulfilled in Acts 2:16-
    The great tribulation of the Jews continues until the powers of the heavens are shaken.... They have yet to complete their return.

  • @RandyRoth-mo3lz
    @RandyRoth-mo3lz Рік тому

    Next let's address the time of Noah and the time of Lot passages.... Matt 24:35-51... this section answers the 3rd and final part of the disciples question in verse 3... Of course... your presentation excludes verse 35 in which Christ declares the timing.... This can also be seen in Mark 13:31. Christ states that heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not..... and of THAT DAY..... now that we have context we can present the rest. The timing happens when the heavens are destroyed... Job tells us that's when the resurrection of the dead takes place.. Job 14:12. Paul declares the event to be 'the resurrection of the dead"...1 Cor 15:42-54..not some conjured rapture. Peter tells us that Christ comes like a thief in the night when the heavens are destroyed... 2 Peter 3:10-18.... Christ is stating that no man knows the day or the hour that the heavens will be destroyed.... not some fabled rapture that's supposed to happen 7 years prior that would create a countdown to when Christ could come "like a thief in the night".

  • @RandyRoth-mo3lz
    @RandyRoth-mo3lz Рік тому

    In your presentation of 2 Thess 2.... you've got some serious issues.... the biggest is the Word of God stating differently than your presentation:
    -----Verse 7 and 8 show that the wicked one isn't REVEALED until the restrainer is taken out of the way.
    -----Verse 1-3, "our gathering unto Him", does not occur until the "man of perdition is revealed"
    Paul shows the sequence of .. the restraint removed.... the antichrist revealed... and THEN our gathering unto Him.
    But you falsely exclaim that we were raptured into heaven long before this.... Sorry, No Scripture able to be referenced, because it's a fabrication of man... only taught by men...

  • @RandyRoth-mo3lz
    @RandyRoth-mo3lz Рік тому

    Next you offer 7 years of tribulation.... You make the claim that Daniel prophesied this 7 year tribulation that you speak of. I remember about 14 years ago were I was walking next to one of my ponds where God spoke to me and said, "The 70th week of Daniel isn't futuristic..." I remember responding, "that'll go over like a rat sandwich". Darby's singular interpretation... 2 Peter 1:20...of Daniel's 70th week is the most taught throughout eschatology views.... to come against that would be a fight with the Pharisees. I told the Lord, if that were the case, You'd have to show me differently. You would have liked the area... near the pond... it was close to where I had stupidly taken a pot shot with a 22 pistol at a mountain lion that had taken out a couple of our goats. That one weighed 120 lbs and measured 9'2" from tip to tip.
    History shows that the sacrifices and offerings ended shortly after the temple was destroyed in 70 AD. This fact alone should not be ignored... and it shows an anchor point in history in which we can fit other puzzle pieces together. The temple was destroyed in the middle of a 7 year war... known as the Roman-Jewish War of Jewish Uprising... it started in 66 AD and ended with the fall of Masada in 73 AD... in the middle of that week the temple was destroyed and not one stone was left upon another. Titus.. who's father Vespasian became the emperor of Rome at this time.. making him a prince.. had CONFIRMED the covenant with the Roman Senate that had been made by Alexander the Great and upheld by the Hellenists into Roman rule.... as a result Titus led the army that fulfilled EVERY aspect of Daniel's 70th week. Not one stone is left unturned.
    Now enter.. John Nelson Darby.... He suggest that the futuristic antichrist will MAKE a new treaty which begins a 7 year tribulation... that requires a new temple that will be built for the purpose of being destroyed again after 3 years. No Scripture gives this singular interpretation a second witness.
    The temple of God is no longer a building but the hearts of men... we are the temple.. the veil was torn in two. I recently asked the Lord, how does the man of perdition sit in the place of God and declare himself to be such if our bodies are the temple? The Holy Spirit is our teacher.. 1 John 2:27. A month or so ago He answered me... I was in a Sunday School class with a pretrib teacher....of course he couldn't answer any questions concerning where in Scripture does it state what he teaches... so he instead told me to sit down, shut up and listen, for HE WAS THE TEACHER.... I had repented many years ago for allowing others to take the Holy Spirit's place as the "teacher"... but it served to answer the question... He had sat in the place of god and declared himself to be such. Our bodies are the temple... the mark of the beast is "stuck into" the body. It will be in the place of god. The temple offered in Rev 11 is measured IN HEAVEN where John measures it... and it is declared to be in heaven in this chapter. No Scripture ever offers a 3rd temple built by man's hands or one that doesn't come out of heaven. The 3rd temple is a distraction for the purpose of deceit.

  • @RandyRoth-mo3lz
    @RandyRoth-mo3lz Рік тому

    The term "rapture" is extremely deceptive, created for the purpose of deception. Scripture shows one name (noun) for the event; "resurrection of the dead", but many descriptions (actions--Verbs)...aka, "caught up", "gathered together unto Him", etc . The term "rapture" draws the focus and attention to the living... whereas the term "resurrection of the dead" shows the attention and focus on the dead. The foundation of deceit, or any good magician is to redirect attention. Jesus, Paul and Peter all warn us about the deception surrounding His return... Matt 24:3,4, 2 Thess 2:2, 2 Peter 3:10-18. Of course... at this point the term "trinity" is brought up by the willfully ignorant to point out that it too is not in Scripture... however, Scripture doesn't offer a name that the term 'trinity" is replacing... nor does it warn of deception concerning this concept. If Scripture already has named the event, "The resurrection of the dead", why is it so important to rename it to "rapture"... unless for the reason of deceit?
    Heb 6:1,2 shows this event of the resurrection of the dead to be a foundational doctrine of the faith. Paul directly calls the event 'the resurrection of the dead" in 1 Cor 15;42-55.... in verse 42 he informs us that the dead are changed from corruptible/perishable bodies to incorruptible/imperishable bodies... and calls THIS event, 'the resurrection of the dead'. He then repeats this concept in verse 53, but now includes the living alongside the dead physical bodies being changed.... it tells us that the living are changed from mortal to immortal. Thus the living are included in the exact same event. When Paul begins his narrative about this event in 1 Thess 4;13-18, he declares that he doesn't want us ignorant about what happens to the dead... vs 13. Yet those who use the term "rapture" seem to instantly forget that a resurrection of the dead is the fact that the dead come back to life in their physical bodies. Yes, the dead live again. In both of these passages, Paul is refuting the teachings of the Sadducees, who taught that there is no resurrection of the dead.. Acts 23:8. The reason the dead in Christ need these physical Earth suits returned to them is so that they can rule and reign with Christ on a physical world for 1000 years. When they died they became absent from these physical bodies and present with the Lord in their spiritual and glorified bodies... 2 Cor 5:8, Phil 3:19,20. Now they return with Christ... 1 Thess 4:14, and get these physical bodies to RISE FIRST out of the graves.. 1 Thess 4;15-17 and are 'caught up" to meet Christ and their spiritual bodies in the air/clouds. Paul directly states that these physical bodies do not go to heaven.. 1 Cor 15:42-55...see vs 50. These simple facts concerning the dead are totally lost by the deception of the rapture. In fact, the opposite is taught.
    The resurrection of the dead is a very simple concept... as is Scripture.. man loves to complicate it. The resurrection of the dead happens when the heavens are destroyed.... Job 14:12, 2 Peter 3:10, Matt 24:35,36, Mark 13:31,32. Those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the FIRST resurrection... Rev 20:4-6.... If you remove all of man's speculation, assumption, conjecture, opinion and flat out lies, any concept concerning a 'rapture" disappears into thin air.... POOF!
    It's important for a dispensationalist to understand where they personally stand in their view, because it has such a broad spectrum, from extreme, to barely knowing any influence. It's also important that they understand the end argument of their view. I've been told all sorts of claims by hyper-dispensationalists, like: "As a gentile you cannot be 'born again" because that is only for the Jews." I have a saved file of wild dispensationalist comments/statements that have shut me up do to pure shock value. The end logic of dispensationalism is that Christ is no longer the way, the truth and the life, and that somehow we can make it to the Father through the mere man... Paul. Thus eliminating the dispensation (message) of Christ who claims the opposite..John 14:6. The core foundation of dispensationalism is the rejection of Christ.
    Let's look at the basic claim of dispensationalism over the Olivet Discourse... Matt 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, in light of eschatology. Constantly we are flat out lied to and told that this passage is for the "Jew only".... Yet Christ Himself declares at the end, "what I say to you, I say to all..." ...see Mark's account. Dispensationalism is a cult that offers a counterfeit gospel, a counterfeit hope, a counterfeit salvation, and a counterfeit return of Christ. If Christ directly taught that He comes after the tribulation... Matt 24:29-31... shouldn't there be Scripture that states the opposite (antichrist... 1 John 2:18,19) before one repeats such a notion? Yet dispensationalist don't even think twice about teaching the opposite of Christ... and think everybody but them is the foolish virgin.
    The foolish virgins aren't let in the door. They were just told that Christ comes after the tribulation...The reason they are considered foolish is because they didn't bring a vessel in which to refuel their lamps. Had they actually believed Christ they would have brought a VESSEL in which to refuel their lamps... rather than just the oil in their lamps that lasted but a short time.... no point in bringing more oil if the rapture is imminent... Right?? You must believe Jesus to be saved. Christ declared this issue an issue of salvation. The stony soil believer... Mark 4:18 has no mindset for tribulation and persecution... and when it comes, they immediately stumble. The falling away is made up of the stony soil, of EVERY eschatological persuasion.... however that soil is the breeding grounds for the pretrib.... it wouldn't exist without this soil type. To suggest that your view isn't a matter of salvation is to encourage your friends to go to hell. Only the fertile soil makes it to heaven.

    • @understandingtruth10
      @understandingtruth10  Рік тому +1

      Wow, lots to look over here. But I will do and get back to you very soon . Thank you so much for you information. It took may years to come to this point in my faith. In the Past I was End tribulation or Mid tribulation, I viewed everything happening at the return of Christ in the clouds. Just recently I changed my position based of the Matthew 24 and Luke 17, I will study everything you said and get back to you.

    • @RandyRoth-mo3lz
      @RandyRoth-mo3lz Рік тому

      @@understandingtruth10 Just one of multiple comments on your video... I only made it 2/3 through

    • @understandingtruth10
      @understandingtruth10  Рік тому

      I see the point you make here
      The resurrection of the dead is a very simple concept... as is Scripture.. man loves to complicate it. The resurrection of the dead happens when the heavens are destroyed.... Job 14:12, 2 Peter 3:10, Matt 24:35,36, Mark 13:31,32.

    • @RandyRoth-mo3lz
      @RandyRoth-mo3lz Рік тому

      @@understandingtruth10 Few can see the simplicity of the Scriptures....

    • @understandingtruth10
      @understandingtruth10  Рік тому

      I like the Scriptures you mention here below good points. But I have read everything now, Well I would like to mention Michael Pearl and the Door ministries here on youtube. I have learned a great dead for this man and his Bible interpretation. I know you will say that we should only interpret the scriptures and be lead by the Word of God and I agree; however, there is a correct hermeneutical way of doing so. Michael's interpretation of the Pre-tirb Rapture really changed my views. However, with what you are telling me I will remain open. I apricate you scriptural analysis, looks like good work. I you want to chat on the phone sometime I would be willing.
      The resurrection of the dead is a very simple concept... as is Scripture.. man loves to complicate it. The resurrection of the dead happens when the heavens are destroyed.... Job 14:12, 2 Peter 3:10, Matt 24:35,36, Mark 13:31,32.