But you cut yours in half. The crank is balanced from each pistol when it Fires. You've cut one end off. Your engine is out of balance an for that reason I thing someone is lying🤔
Wisconsin engine made a V$ too. It was an awesome engine. V4's have more low end torque then many straight 4s, so to see them in mini racers isnt shocking. I've always wondered why it didn't become more popular, especially here in the states.
Because there was a thing called a v8 and america likes big things that drinks way too much fuel. Americans also like big cars. Big cars fit big engines. Small v4's were made to fit small cars.
Who was here when visioracer didn't talk yet? Still loving the videos and appreciate the effort going into them. Btw glad you were not injured during the crash!
In the 1970's I owned 2 vehicles with V4 engines: A Ford Corsair 1.6 litre with an automatic box and the same model, but with the 2.0 litre engine and a manual box. Neither was anything other than a reliable 4/5 seater family saloon car, but both did what was expected of them.
The Corsair 1.6 I believe would have had a straight 4 1.6 litre Essex engine, Ford V4 never came in 1.6 litre capacity, either the British Essex or the German Cologne designs.
A V4 seems to make a lot of sense in a hybrid setup. I wonder why its not used now with all the hybrids that are on sale. You can get a really nice sound in a small package to go along with the hybrid system. Real sound and performance that would be nice in a world with growing fake sounding cars.
Porsche 919? Besides that they are too expensive to build. Nowadays we can get so much power from a 3 cylinder engine it just doesnt make that much sense. If you build a expensive hybrid you might as well just use a V6 as its more powerfull and can be build to a better value, If you build a cheaper hybrid like the i3 or the golf gte a 3 or inline 4 cylinder engine is just so much cheaper to build
A v4 is the wrong application for a hybrid. The 90 degree v-configuration allows the engine to rev higher than an inline or a boxer because you don't need as heavy flywheel. But short-stroke high rev is the opposite of what you would want in a hybrid, for economy you'd want long stroke with torque down low. Inline is better for that kind of application.
My dad used to put the Ford V4 or V6 into salvaged Ro80 rotary cars which he could buy for about 100 quid as their engines had seized (rotor tips not perfected). The compactness of these Vs made them the only viable lumps to replace the rotary. I drove one of them for years and it was a fantastic car, light-years ahead of its time, and the V4 was more than adequate when teamed with NSU's semi-automatic transmission. Brand snobs didn't like the conversion, but it was a cheap, brilliant solution.
I have a diesel V4 From a pretty rare communist tractor. Its in a veeeery baaaad shape but i think i can repair it and use it on a homemade quadbike cause it Has plenty of torqe and its air cooled and has 25hp
The ZAZ-965's MeMZ-965/966/966A 746/887cc engines were all air-cooled and produced only 23/27/30hp respectively. The only 50hp engine was MeMZ-968BE 1197cc air-cooled, but this one was built only in 1982 and the ZAZ carrying it was 968M, not the one mentioned in this video.
Ford Corsair 2000E GT,what a superb motor,it was quiet and rapid with handling to match,it was a great car to drive and the V4 2litre engine was great,it's a pity they never fitted a 5speed gearbox it would have been a real winner,a little bit heavy on fuel but it was cheap in those days so not a great problem,the 1700cc Corsair V4 was no slouch either but was better on fuel. I used too drive a 12 seater Transit Minibus with the 2litre low compression engine,did over 120000 miles without a problem.
I had a number of Saab 96's with the Taunus V4, and it didn't have split crankpins. With its 60-degree angle between the banks, it had a balance shaft.
Glad someone saw the difference between a Ford Cologne V4 and a Ford Essex V4 as ppl assume they were one and the same beast, the V6 variants two were equally different in the Essex 3.0 was a pure grunt box whilst the Cologne V6 was smoother and far more refined which saw the MK2 Granada and later Capri's get the German engine whilst the Essex laboured on under the bonnets of Reliant Scimitars. As it happens I have been testing out the idea of a either a 1.7 or 2.0 Essex V4 in the front end of my Reliant Robin, there was also a 2.0 V6 based on the Cologne build I seem to remember. The Ford V4's allowed Ford to shrink down the front of the MK1 Ford Transits as it really is a tiny engine lengthwise, it looked lost inside the Ford Corsair and Ford Consul engine bays and they were very nearly put into MK1 Escorts but this was dropped in favour of the quite old by then but incredibly reliable Kent engines.
As far as I know the Essex engine was originally supposed to be a Diesel unit. I do know the 2.0 V4 ended up in the Corsair, Granada, Mk1 Capri and early Mk3 Cortinas.
As per your usual content, excellent video. I would love to see a list of marine, or aero engine to change things up every once in a while! Either way, great content
Inverted V12 Powerhouse Or any opposed piston engine. Perhaps experimental engines? I know a company, their name escapes my memory, that is running a prototype opposed piston in a Ford f150
I've played around with a handful of V4's in Lego pneumatic engines, and they're really great. Astonishingly compact, very well balanced. Its really cool to take a V2 that tries to shake itself apart and can't sit still on the table, and then ANOTHER V2 that's just as bad, but you combine them and its buttery smooth. Its like magic!
Wisconsin made a V-4. I would sometimes see them in farm equipment. My uncle had one on a hay baler. They were used when the tractor didn't have a PTO. I've often wished it had been adapted for a car.
@@jareknowak8712 Soviets had and now the Rooskies so much magnesium that they don't know what to do with it all...In the bad ol' days of the (1st) Cold War they sold the west ship-loads of magnesium and of titanium which grows there like weeds..All the magnesium used in my Husqvarna and KTM moto-cross bikes for the engine cases, brake hubs, fork legs all came from Soviet Union...and in US military aircraft the magnesium and titanium care from there, too..And they knew it. We on the other hand sold them heavy industrial machines like big lathes and mills and specialised gear cutting machinery like the gear cutters for ring and pinions in ever rear axle which came from Gleason Works in New York...Big enemies to the public but doing business since 1920s. Looking at your name I'm sure you know this.
Not at all, pretty basic really. They are the same as a V6 but with a balance shaft that is timed off the crank. It was originally meant to be a diesel engine, so don't expect it to rev.
The Taunus V4 was not designed in Germany. Its origin dates back to the late 1950s when Ford USA concerned by the inroads being made by small economical imported vehicles, in particular the VW Beetle, on the US domestic market realised it needed a similar vehicle of its own with which to compete. Thus was born Project Cardinal which resulted in a compact vehicle the size of the VW and featuring a newly Ford USA designed V4 coupled to a front wheel drive transaxle - both firsts for Ford .A V4 engine configuration finally being settled on by Ford after it had experimented with other engine configurations - A Flat 4 [boxer] engine and a V6 [the V6 too would eventually find its way in to production by Ford Germany, but that's another story for another time]. The car had been given the all clear by Ford management to go in to production for 1962 but at the last minute, Ford management got nervous and had second thoughts about the whole thing and cancelled production, going on to produce the utterly conventional Falcon in its place. However because production jigs for the V4 car had been ordered and manufactured and because the Ford Germany Taunus was due to be replaced Ford USA in order to recoup some of the money spent on Project Cardinal, decided Project Cardinal would be the next Ford Taunus and so transferred the jigs to Germany. The rest as they say, is history.
Strewth. And that Ford Taunus 12M went into stiff competition with the British Ford (Consul) Cortina. BTW, the V-4 engine almost found use in the USA all the same; it was to become the powerplant of the concept Mustang in 1962, where it was to be mounted mid-ships. Again the design was deemed too radical and the Mustang as we know it was designed around Falcon mechanics.
Another takeoff of this was Thiokol (Snow Cats) in Utah used the Ford V4 in a couple of their offerings in the late 60s & early 70s. Gearbox attached to engine had 2 or 3 speed(don't remember) + reverse and steering clutches like a bulldozer, then on to the rear through twin driveshafts to each side to a rear final drive for the tracks.
EVISEH thank you for the history. My father had one of these Taunus 12M 1300 V4 with fwd and a very American steering column mounted gearchange. Now I know where it came from!
I have even watched this video yet and suddenly the beauty of a V4 engine dawned on me. If it is a 90 degree V4 then you would only need two rod journals, as two pistons could share one journal and fire every 180 degrees of crank rotation just like an inline 4.
I am not familiar with that cylinder numbering system so it is hard for me to comment but my thinking is that the rear cylinder is the one that is 90 degrees out of phase with the front cylinder. (because they are sharing the same rod journal) I prefer to have combustion more evenly spaced around the 720-degree cycle but have watched the video on the Yamaha and the theoretical traction advantage gained.
The v4 engine performed a lot better in the transit than the more modern 1.6 and 2.0 engines that replaced them. I drove them all including the v6 and diesels the v4 was my favourite. 3.0 v6 was fast but very thirsty.
As OttovonEarth say, they had a 1498 cc variant as well. It was used in Saab 95 and 96. It was also used by Ford in the 15M and the 1,7 litre was used in the 17M. The 1,7 liter engine was a popular replacement in the Saabs. With the intake manifold and the dual port carb from the 17M it made the small and light weight Saabs quite fast for a cheap car. The only problem was that the 1,7 liter pistons wouldn´t last in the Saabs if the engine was revved high during longer periods, such as long highway running at high speeds. Those engines where sometimes bored out to about 1815 cc for rallye cars (mostly Saabs) and they had the cylinder heads changed from the original restrictive siamese exhaust port to some kind of dual exhaust port cylinder heads. I´m quite sure this engine started its life as with only 1,2 liter displacement. I think it was used in a smaller car named 12M in in the beginning of the sixties. That might have been a front wheel drive car. I think there was a sub frame for front wheels and maybe even the engine and that sub frame was mounted to the body with very soft rubber cushions, creating a very "soft" feeling with bad behaviuor in critical situations. I think the 12M was meant for the US market but didn´t succeed there. But all this about the 12M is what I have heard but I´m not sure about it so don´t qoute me on it. :-)
Just wanted to drop a note to say that this was one of your best videos ever. Keep up the good work! Guess I should include that I'm a big fan of the Honda Magna and Yamaha V-Max motorcycles as they are both amazing, fast, AND V4 engines.
Which would probably be the gearbox exploding. Saab had turbo's rallycross V4's in the late '70s that did about 200hp. More recently a Dutch company Sweedspeed tuned a V4 that did 200hp on the engine stand. It was so brutally high up in revs that it started to dislodge from the engine stand.
I think I should have been clearer. Sweedspeed tuned an engine but for as far as I know it was never installed in a car, leave alone a Sonett. I read about this engine in the Dutch Saabclub magazine a few years back. Sweedspeed did other cool things though, which you will find here. One is a blue 96 with a V6, the other one is a 96 on the dyno that produces 150+ hp.
I used to drive a Ford Transit Mini Bus with the 2ltr V4 engine, it was nearly new when purchased but did well over 100,000 miles before it was replaced without any problem apart from the distributor drive from the oil pump wore out and it came to a stop, replaced in just a few minutes. We also had a Corsair 1700 V4 in 1967, what a smooth car to drive that was.
There were few more soviet cars equiped with v4 engine, such as successors of ZAZ-965 that you mentioned: ZAZ-966, ZAZ-968. Also there were off-road vehicles such as LuAZ-969 and army amphibian LuAZ-967 (TPK). Basicly their engines vere the same, but had various displacement and power output.
When my friends ask me, that were I get all my information about cars. I just say: "From VisioRacer and personal experiences". By the way. Your Videos are one of the biggest reasons, why I use youtube so often. They are very entertaining. And good Time Killers aswell. Thank you. Regards from Finland.
RareCx you could put a V8 bank of cylinders on an inline 4 block with sliders so that the opposing pistons fire at once. It's stupid, but it could work.
When you talked about the Ford Essex you said something completely wrong, boxer engines have an even firing order, but the uel manifolds creates that "subaru rumble"
I talked it fired like a boxer engine - the firing order. There is not word about the UEL Subaru rumble, I know what you mean, but that is different and I did not say about that.
You definitely missed one out. I had a mark 1 Ford transit a long time ago. . That was a v4 petrol so that's at least 7 now :-) Also used in Ford Corsair, Capri Mk I, Consul, Granada Mk I, Ford Zephyr Mk IV.
Good video, and I've learned something today - I didn't know that Ford had two families of V-4 engines. I knew that the early Ford Transits had a V-4 (I guess the Essex unit) and I knew that SAAB were using Ford V-4s (as you say, the Taunus) - I always assumed it was the same engine!
Mistake with ZAZ. 965 had 0.9l engine with 23hp firstly and 30hp later. Then it was changes by 968 (966) model with 40hp and 1.2l. Also this new engine was plased in LuAZ.
Speaking of that, GM has a V4 in development, a 3.1L unit capable of 230 hp, and a twin screw supercharger veraion with around 300 hp. Don't know when it will be out, but I can't wait to see and hear it.
A very nice video. Re: the Ford V4s and V6s. From what I remember, the UK "Essex" engines had a 90 degree V, which is naturally balanced in the 4 cyl configuration, but unbalanced in the 6 cyl configuration (UK Zodiac, Granada and Capri 2500 and 3000). The German V engines had a 60 degree V, which made the V4s unbalanced, and the V6s balanced (German Taunus 20m, 26m, Granada 2000, 2300, 2600, 2800 and Capri). My first car was a 1966 Taunus 20m 2000 V6. Great car with smooth power, marred by an awful 3-speed automatic gearbox.
Really appreciate the effort you put into you videos, there may be the occasional little error but that's only human, in general top quality work, and you don't shout at people which is a bonus.
For future reference in English, 'corps' in the context of what you were talking about in the video is pronounced "core." Corps as you pronounced it is in reference to a dead body. 😂
There was a V4 engine that Scat Engineering built for midget race cars. It was basically half of a small block Chevy. And there is the Motus motorcycle, which is powered by a V4 that looks like half of a scaled-down GM LS.
All these v4 engines are nice,but I really like the Matra 530 sports car.its a shame that more people don't know about it,it seems like a charming little car
I recall seeing an article many years ago in an auto magazine regarding quarter midget sprint cars ,this was some time in the 60s ,they were band sawing chevy V-8s in half and using the back half to make V-4 engines out of them !!! wish i could find that article again .
Interesting clips and he got most of it right about the ford v4 unit it was often a troublesome engine had an odd firing order like he said I used to have a ford transit recovery truck with a 1700 v4
The Ford V4 as used in the Transit, Corsair etc and the post-1968 Saab 95/96 has four separate crankpins and even firing intervals (the sparking plug leads are equally spaced around the distributor cap, and the contact breaker cam lobes are equally spaced). With the 60 degree angle this gives a mechanical imbalance that is overcome by having a shaft with two lop-sided weights on it turning in the opposite direction to the crankshaft. It does in fact run very smoothly, but it has a rough sounding exhaust note because of the layout of the exhaust manifolds. Many 4-cylinder boxer engines (Subaru, original Volkswagen Beetle, Citroen GS) sound rough for the same reason, but the Alfa Romeo Alfasud boxer engine has a very smooth sound because it has four equal-length exhaust pipes from the cylinder heads to a junction into a single pipe.
Really surprised that the V4 configuration wasn't used much more often as they're such compact engines & very lightweight if air-cooled alloy units like the Mighty Mite! Btw; I only speak English, but when I was young even I thought 'corps' was also pronounced the same as 'corpse' because that's the way I read it, not realising the 'p' is silent!
The ford V4 was a remarkably bad starter (if at all). This problem made them very cheap so all and sundry owned them. One could hear them winding away their starters every where you went.
The first vehicle shown is commonly called the Jiholie. The last of the "Baby Corvette" Opel GT's made by the Opel Corporation did have a V4 engine but I understand less than 500 of them were made.
In 1979 I worked as a pipe fitter for Ingersol Rand building a assembly line for a gas V-4 that it turned out was going to eastern Europe. We showed up one morning and ABC, NBC, CBS and several major print media were outside of plant in Farmington Hills MI. It was quite the scandal. It turned out to be for a light tank type armored vehicle. I seem to remember some Ford Engineers were involved. We had set line up and had it ran, and were breaking down for shipping when SHTF. Our's was water cooled and was similar to my V 6 mustang 2.
I am sorry, but that Lancia engine isn't really a V4 engine, since it's not even a V engine, it's a VR engine (V-Reihe a.k.a V-Row). Just as the Golf R32 engine isn't a V6 nor it is a straight 6.
omfgwtfbbq90 VR engines are NOT inline, but narrow angle V. It doesn't matter that you don't like it, nor want it to be. THAT's what the "V" signifies, what it DEMONSTRATES.
Nope! Even when it's a very small angle v, then it's still a v engine. Even if it has only one head. VR is a term which VW started to use during the late 80's / early 90's, just to differentiate itself from the more common traditional v. engines.
The reason for them is that they are short and very compact, which means you can instal them ahead of the front axle for FWD. But they're more expensive to make, so if you don't need that facility (and most carmakers never did), it's unneeded expense. The extra outlay can be mitigated if you have a sister V6 in programme which shares all the same tools. This Ford had with their V4's (both Köln and Essex), so the expense was not a major issue.
Actually the V4 layout was used to make the lenght needed for the engine bay shorter for RWD cars, the mk1 Transit was the reason Ford did develop the Essex and the Taunus was originally developed for a new compact car for the US, the Cardinal, but that project grounded and instead the Taunus was developed around it. While the German Taunus and British Cortina models were similar looking cars with only detail differences the V4 was only available in the Taunus besides a line of I4 engines In a funny way Ford used inline fours for their smallest RWD model, the Escorts mk1 and mk2, where the advantages of a V4 could be most practicable. When most of their cars got FWD, from the 1977 mk1 Fiesta, the V4's disappeared as they were more expensive to produce, with two separate cylinder blocks and heads for each engine.
I can add 1 more to that list. Here in the UK my Dad once owned a Navy Blue Ford Zephyr MkIV and that had a 1.9Ltr V4 petrol engine with a manual column change gearbox.
My buddy cut a small block Chevy in half back in the late 50’s and it really performed in a speedway midget.
How did he balance it🤔🤔🤔
alex williamson
Same as they now do a V 4
But you cut yours in half. The crank is balanced from each pistol when it Fires. You've cut one end off. Your engine is out of balance an for that reason I thing someone is lying🤔
alex williamson
Not if you re-design the cam and obviously the firing order, try thinking outside the square.
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Cut that in half its all out of sync
Wisconsin engine made a V$ too. It was an awesome engine. V4's have more low end torque then many straight 4s, so to see them in mini racers isnt shocking. I've always wondered why it didn't become more popular, especially here in the states.
Because there was a thing called a v8 and america likes big things that drinks way too much fuel.
Americans also like big cars. Big cars fit big engines. Small v4's were made to fit small cars.
@@pontushaggstrom6261 That and v4's cost more to make than a I4
Who was here when visioracer didn't talk yet? Still loving the videos and appreciate the effort going into them. Btw glad you were not injured during the crash!
Caspar A. What crash?
Doctor Dischord His BRZ Crashed so he bought a new car Renault Megane RS 250 Cup.
Frizzie Is there a blog or something of this? Don't see it on his uploads.
Doctor Dischord yh there is bud check his vlog channel XD
In the 1970's I owned 2 vehicles with V4 engines: A Ford Corsair 1.6 litre with an automatic box and the same model, but with the 2.0 litre engine and a manual box. Neither was anything other than a reliable 4/5 seater family saloon car, but both did what was expected of them.
The Corsair 1.6 I believe would have had a straight 4 1.6 litre Essex engine, Ford V4 never came in 1.6 litre capacity, either the British Essex or the German Cologne designs.
A V4 seems to make a lot of sense in a hybrid setup. I wonder why its not used now with all the hybrids that are on sale. You can get a really nice sound in a small package to go along with the hybrid system.
Real sound and performance that would be nice in a world with growing fake sounding cars.
Porsche 919?
Besides that they are too expensive to build. Nowadays we can get so much power from a 3 cylinder engine it just doesnt make that much sense.
If you build a expensive hybrid you might as well just use a V6 as its more powerfull and can be build to a better value, If you build a cheaper hybrid like the i3 or the golf gte a 3 or inline 4 cylinder engine is just so much cheaper to build
Plus most cars today are -- unfortunately -- front wheel drive. A V4 is NOT the engine you want to be mounted like your common transverse I4.
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A v4 is the wrong application for a hybrid. The 90 degree v-configuration allows the engine to rev higher than an inline or a boxer because you don't need as heavy flywheel. But short-stroke high rev is the opposite of what you would want in a hybrid, for economy you'd want long stroke with torque down low. Inline is better for that kind of application.
The fastest car ever to lap the nurburgring the Porsche 919 hybrid is a V4!
My dad used to put the Ford V4 or V6 into salvaged Ro80 rotary cars which he could buy for about 100 quid as their engines had seized (rotor tips not perfected). The compactness of these Vs made them the only viable lumps to replace the rotary. I drove one of them for years and it was a fantastic car, light-years ahead of its time, and the V4 was more than adequate when teamed with NSU's semi-automatic transmission. Brand snobs didn't like the conversion, but it was a cheap, brilliant solution.
Really cool sound from the V4's. I knew they must had been used, but never knew of an example. Another quality automotive history lesson.
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I have a diesel V4 From a pretty rare communist tractor. Its in a veeeery baaaad shape but i think i can repair it and use it on a homemade quadbike cause it Has plenty of torqe and its air cooled and has 25hp
Subaru used to have a horizontally opposed 4 cyl engine that was pretty decent.
Unlike the VW engine, it was water cooled.
Exactly i was very curious to see what there exhaust note sounded like
The ZAZ-965's MeMZ-965/966/966A 746/887cc engines were all air-cooled and produced only 23/27/30hp respectively. The only 50hp engine was MeMZ-968BE 1197cc air-cooled, but this one was built only in 1982 and the ZAZ carrying it was 968M, not the one mentioned in this video.
Ford Corsair 2000E GT,what a superb motor,it was quiet and rapid with handling to match,it was a great car to drive and the V4 2litre engine was great,it's a pity they never fitted a 5speed gearbox it would have been a real winner,a little bit heavy on fuel but it was cheap in those days so not a great problem,the 1700cc Corsair V4 was no slouch either but was better on fuel. I used too drive a 12 seater Transit Minibus with the 2litre low compression engine,did over 120000 miles without a problem.
You're english is getting really fucking good. Keep it up bro
Fuck ya!
yours is not
I no write his ainglisch is guod
Yeah . You also need to improve your english to catch with him.
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Nice little cars those Fords...
Just FYI, you're a century out on the last engine ... pretty sure it didn't end production in 1877 hehehe :P
Mea culpa -_-
I had a number of Saab 96's with the Taunus V4, and it didn't have split crankpins. With its 60-degree angle between the banks, it had a balance shaft.
Glad someone saw the difference between a Ford Cologne V4 and a Ford Essex V4 as ppl assume they were one and the same beast, the V6 variants two were equally different in the Essex 3.0 was a pure grunt box whilst the Cologne V6 was smoother and far more refined which saw the MK2 Granada and later Capri's get the German engine whilst the Essex laboured on under the bonnets of Reliant Scimitars. As it happens I have been testing out the idea of a either a 1.7 or 2.0 Essex V4 in the front end of my Reliant Robin, there was also a 2.0 V6 based on the Cologne build I seem to remember. The Ford V4's allowed Ford to shrink down the front of the MK1 Ford Transits as it really is a tiny engine lengthwise, it looked lost inside the Ford Corsair and Ford Consul engine bays and they were very nearly put into MK1 Escorts but this was dropped in favour of the quite old by then but incredibly reliable Kent engines.
As far as I know the Essex engine was originally supposed to be a Diesel unit. I do know the 2.0 V4 ended up in the Corsair, Granada, Mk1 Capri and early Mk3 Cortinas.
Ian Watson
My old man had a mk1 transit pick upon a n reg,it had a 1.7 v4 but he replaced it with a 2 litre,reliable but thirsty
I forgot about the Mk1 Transit.
Don't forget the mk4 Zephyr.
Saved a few NSU RO80s Wankel engine disasters from going to the scrap yard too early as well.
As per your usual content, excellent video. I would love to see a list of marine, or aero engine to change things up every once in a while! Either way, great content
mike the deltic engine
Inverted V12 Powerhouse Or any opposed piston engine. Perhaps experimental engines? I know a company, their name escapes my memory, that is running a prototype opposed piston in a Ford f150
@inverted v12 powerhouse Deltic or Junkers JuMo, which is also an opposed-piston diesel.
I've played around with a handful of V4's in Lego pneumatic engines, and they're really great. Astonishingly compact, very well balanced. Its really cool to take a V2 that tries to shake itself apart and can't sit still on the table, and then ANOTHER V2 that's just as bad, but you combine them and its buttery smooth. Its like magic!
Really interesting, plenty to learn from you each video. Thanks for sharing !
Saab Sonett baby!!!!!
First thing that came to mind when clicking on the video was my Uncle's Sonett III!
I almost bought a Saab Sonett III
I love saab❤️
The V4 Sonnets had some serious understeer, the really rare Sonnet II with the 2 cycle handled much better.
Everybody has almost bought a Saab Sonett III. Then you come to your senses and buys something else.
That Matra actually looks pretty good
Wisconsin made a V-4. I would sometimes see them in farm equipment. My uncle had one on a hay baler. They were used when the tractor didn't have a PTO. I've often wished it had been adapted for a car.
Another quality upload mate
Matra looks pretty good :P
I like how it suddenly went from shitbox Soviet cars to one of the fastest LMP cars ever
Show me a shitbox with magnesium crankcase... (:P)
@@jareknowak8712 Soviets had and now the Rooskies so much magnesium that they don't know what to do with it all...In the bad ol' days of the (1st) Cold War they sold the west ship-loads of magnesium and of titanium which grows there like weeds..All the magnesium used in my Husqvarna and KTM moto-cross bikes for the engine cases, brake hubs, fork legs all came from Soviet Union...and in US military aircraft the magnesium and titanium care from there, too..And they knew it. We on the other hand sold them heavy industrial machines like big lathes and mills and specialised gear cutting machinery like the gear cutters for ring and pinions in ever rear axle which came from Gleason Works in New York...Big enemies to the public but doing business since 1920s. Looking at your name I'm sure you know this.
@@janvanv im form Poland, but i did not knew about all this magnesium richness :)
Poland still buys coal and gas from Russia.
Can’t get enough of these videos. Keep it up!
Love the sound of that Capri V4! So cool!
Damn that V4 ford really got that subie rumble
Thanks man, I'm currently building a modified Essex 2000cc V4. I've always loved these engines.
Paul Belson are they very difficult to work on?
Not at all, pretty basic really. They are the same as a V6 but with a balance shaft that is timed off the crank. It was originally meant to be a diesel engine, so don't expect it to rev.
Nice ! In a ford, a saab ?... What have you done and what kind of power are you pushing ?
In a Capri, only just starting, so will have to wait and see what it does.
Paul Belson Ok, sounds like a cool project, would love to see some vids !
I've been waiting for you to make this video. Thanks!
1:42 Reminds me of my 02 wrx! My dad used to make fun of me and tell me it sounded like a lawn mower combined w a harley 😂
The Taunus V4 was not designed in Germany. Its origin dates back to the late 1950s when Ford USA concerned by the inroads being made by small economical imported vehicles, in particular the VW Beetle, on the US domestic market realised it needed a similar vehicle of its own with which to compete. Thus was born Project Cardinal which resulted in a compact vehicle the size of the VW and featuring a newly Ford USA designed V4 coupled to a front wheel drive transaxle - both firsts for Ford .A V4 engine configuration finally being settled on by Ford after it had experimented with other engine configurations - A Flat 4 [boxer] engine and a V6 [the V6 too would eventually find its way in to production by Ford Germany, but that's another story for another time]. The car had been given the all clear by Ford management to go in to production for 1962 but at the last minute, Ford management got nervous and had second thoughts about the whole thing and cancelled production, going on to produce the utterly conventional Falcon in its place. However because production jigs for the V4 car had been ordered and manufactured and because the Ford Germany Taunus was due to be replaced Ford USA in order to recoup some of the money spent on Project Cardinal, decided Project Cardinal would be the next Ford Taunus and so transferred the jigs to Germany. The rest as they say, is history.
Strewth. And that Ford Taunus 12M went into stiff competition with the British Ford (Consul) Cortina. BTW, the V-4 engine almost found use in the USA all the same; it was to become the powerplant of the concept Mustang in 1962, where it was to be mounted mid-ships. Again the design was deemed too radical and the Mustang as we know it was designed around Falcon mechanics.
I always wondered about it's design origin since it is built like the Ford FE engine family where the intake manifold makes up half the cylinder head.
Another takeoff of this was Thiokol (Snow Cats) in Utah used the Ford V4 in a couple of their offerings in the late 60s & early 70s. Gearbox attached to engine had 2 or 3 speed(don't remember) + reverse and steering clutches like a bulldozer, then on to the rear through twin driveshafts to each side to a rear final drive for the tracks.
EVISEH thank you for the history. My father had one of these Taunus 12M 1300 V4 with fwd and a very American steering column mounted gearchange. Now I know where it came from!
I dd not know that. Makes sense though as the Mustang prototype was mid engine and featured a V4.
That Ford Essex engine sounds really cool! :D
Thank you so much I really learn a lot from your videos and they’re super interesting!!! Best car channel out there!!!
Another great video man!. I'm always learning something new from your awesome videos 😉👍
I have even watched this video yet and suddenly the beauty of a V4 engine dawned on me. If it is a 90 degree V4 then you would only need two rod journals, as two pistons could share one journal and fire every 180 degrees of crank rotation just like an inline 4.
It would not be even fire, would be close to a yamaha R1 firing order
n1 + 270° n3 +180° n4 +90° n2 +180° n1
I am not familiar with that cylinder numbering system so it is hard for me to comment but my thinking is that the rear cylinder is the one that is 90 degrees out of phase with the front cylinder. (because they are sharing the same rod journal) I prefer to have combustion more evenly spaced around the 720-degree cycle but have watched the video on the Yamaha and the theoretical traction advantage gained.
You could get the Ford V4 in the Transit as well!!!
Ford done that with the first series Transits.
Thousands of them :)
The v4 engine performed a lot better in the transit than the more modern 1.6 and 2.0 engines that replaced them. I drove them all including the v6 and diesels the v4 was my favourite. 3.0 v6 was fast but very thirsty.
Yeah, didn't they have smaller V4s than 1.7 litre? I think Ford made V4s as small as 1.2 litres.
As OttovonEarth say, they had a 1498 cc variant as well. It was used in Saab 95 and 96. It was also used by Ford in the 15M and the 1,7 litre was used in the 17M.
The 1,7 liter engine was a popular replacement in the Saabs. With the intake manifold and the dual port carb from the 17M it made the small and light weight Saabs quite fast for a cheap car.
The only problem was that the 1,7 liter pistons wouldn´t last in the Saabs if the engine was revved high during longer periods, such as long highway running at high speeds.
Those engines where sometimes bored out to about 1815 cc for rallye cars (mostly Saabs) and they had the cylinder heads changed from the original restrictive siamese exhaust port to some kind of dual exhaust port cylinder heads.
I´m quite sure this engine started its life as with only 1,2 liter displacement. I think it was used in a smaller car named 12M in in the beginning of the sixties. That might have been a front wheel drive car. I think there was a sub frame for front wheels and maybe even the engine and that sub frame was mounted to the body with very soft rubber cushions, creating a very "soft" feeling with bad behaviuor in critical situations. I think the 12M was meant for the US market but didn´t succeed there.
But all this about the 12M is what I have heard but I´m not sure about it so don´t qoute me on it. :-)
Thanks for inserting the Lancia V4!
Just wanted to drop a note to say that this was one of your best videos ever. Keep up the good work! Guess I should include that I'm a big fan of the Honda Magna and Yamaha V-Max motorcycles as they are both amazing, fast, AND V4 engines.
These v4 engines are interesting o I enjoy your work visio racer keep doing what you doing sir
I wonder what a 200hp turbo saab sonett v4 would drive and sound like 🙄 but no one has done it yet on internet at least 😢
Pierre Pierre lol
It would sound like a grenade going off.
Which would probably be the gearbox exploding. Saab had turbo's rallycross V4's in the late '70s that did about 200hp. More recently a Dutch company Sweedspeed tuned a V4 that did 200hp on the engine stand. It was so brutally high up in revs that it started to dislodge from the engine stand.
Alex B Im gonna check if I find vids of this sweedspeed sonett !
Well yeah its a challenge for the engineers
I think I should have been clearer. Sweedspeed tuned an engine but for as far as I know it was never installed in a car, leave alone a Sonett. I read about this engine in the Dutch Saabclub magazine a few years back. Sweedspeed did other cool things though, which you will find here. One is a blue 96 with a V6, the other one is a 96 on the dyno that produces 150+ hp.
Love the channel. Thank you for the content.
I used to drive a Ford Transit Mini Bus with the 2ltr V4 engine, it was nearly new when purchased but did well over 100,000 miles before it was replaced without any problem apart from the distributor drive from the oil pump wore out and it came to a stop, replaced in just a few minutes. We also had a Corsair 1700 V4 in 1967, what a smooth car to drive that was.
There were few more soviet cars equiped with v4 engine, such as successors of ZAZ-965 that you mentioned: ZAZ-966, ZAZ-968. Also there were off-road vehicles such as LuAZ-969 and army amphibian LuAZ-967 (TPK). Basicly their engines vere the same, but had various displacement and power output.
Haha, the moment you say your car has a V4 😂😂😂 it is a nice engine tho cuz it sounds like an Inline 4 mixed with a boxer 4... nice cars... nice video!
Good video as always, Fords v4's sounds amazing! You should do a video containing the most random engine swaps, could be fun!
Perfect as always! Matra is good. Old engines sound amazing
When my friends ask me, that were I get all my information about cars.
I just say: "From VisioRacer and personal experiences".
By the way. Your Videos are one of the biggest reasons, why I use youtube so often. They are very entertaining. And good Time Killers aswell.
Thank you. Regards from Finland.
Thanks, Miikka, I really appreciate that!
Same for me, myös Suomesta!;D
Miikka Heinonen Joo
What is it with Russians using every godamn engine? V2 V4 V6 V8 Y8 V10 V12 I1 I2 I3 I4 I5 I6 I7!, Rotatorys
Possum no Research &Development haha just build it hope it don't blow up and sell it to the government
innovation. if it works then it works
Vodka
Y8? I wonder how that would work out...
RareCx you could put a V8 bank of cylinders on an inline 4 block with sliders so that the opposing pistons fire at once. It's stupid, but it could work.
Ohhh!!! Finally someone who talks about Lancia! Well done Visio!
My profile image is a Lancia Appia I series, one of the v4 Lancias
I was a proponent of the V-4 as far back as 1973. Wondered why it didn't take off. Had so much potential
Was that olive coloured sports car a Saab Sonnett??? Nice and rare these days.
When you talked about the Ford Essex you said something completely wrong, boxer engines have an even firing order, but the uel manifolds creates that "subaru rumble"
I talked it fired like a boxer engine - the firing order. There is not word about the UEL Subaru rumble, I know what you mean, but that is different and I did not say about that.
I was trying to think about v4’s and could only come up with the lancias, Saab, Ford. Keep up the great work bro!! Peace and love from GB.
I had two Saab sonnets, engine sounded amazing, loved it!
You definitely missed one out. I had a mark 1 Ford transit a long time ago. . That was a v4 petrol so that's at least 7 now :-)
Also used in Ford Corsair, Capri Mk I, Consul, Granada Mk I, Ford Zephyr Mk IV.
Ford Zephy MK IV was a V6
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Your right it was available in a 2.5 v6. But like I said they used the 2.0 v4 also.
@@YZFR1mart it was the essex v4 last on the video I was thinking the same until I watched it all
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Non car guys be like, my accord has a V4 😂
Great vid/information! Thank you!!
Awesome video you make the beat car videos literally can't wait for next one
Good video, and I've learned something today - I didn't know that Ford had two families of V-4 engines. I knew that the early Ford Transits had a V-4 (I guess the Essex unit) and I knew that SAAB were using Ford V-4s (as you say, the Taunus) - I always assumed it was the same engine!
v4 taunus was the cologne, same family as the 2.3 and 2.8 v6 engine. cologne was the european v4's and v6's, the essex was the british v4's and v6's
donkmeister: my neighbor in Germany in 1977 had a Ford Capri with a V4 engine.
We had a 1.7 V4 transit camper van. I assume the Essex V4, though I don't know. Really sweet free revving little motor. It was lots of fun to drive.
Mistake with ZAZ. 965 had 0.9l engine with 23hp firstly and 30hp later. Then it was changes by 968 (966) model with 40hp and 1.2l. Also this new engine was plased in LuAZ.
Last one sounded meaty for a 4 cylinder. It'd be interesting to see how far you could push one of these
You do good videos. Very informative. Thanks for your work.
Like to have that air cooled V4 and put it into a International Cub Cadet and make a puller
I'm sure there are a lot of v-4 wisconsen engines that are looking for a cool home
Michael Ellestad Great little IHC tractors.
Speaking of that, GM has a V4 in development, a 3.1L unit capable of 230 hp, and a twin screw supercharger veraion with around 300 hp. Don't know when it will be out, but I can't wait to see and hear it.
Guess this never happened
A very nice video. Re: the Ford V4s and V6s.
From what I remember, the UK "Essex" engines had a 90 degree V, which is naturally balanced in the 4 cyl configuration, but unbalanced in the 6 cyl configuration (UK Zodiac, Granada and Capri 2500 and 3000).
The German V engines had a 60 degree V, which made the V4s unbalanced, and the V6s balanced (German Taunus 20m, 26m, Granada 2000, 2300, 2600, 2800 and Capri).
My first car was a 1966 Taunus 20m 2000 V6. Great car with smooth power, marred by an awful 3-speed automatic gearbox.
Really appreciate the effort you put into you videos, there may be the occasional little error but that's only human, in general top quality work, and you don't shout at people which is a bonus.
For future reference in English, 'corps' in the context of what you were talking about in the video is pronounced "core." Corps as you pronounced it is in reference to a dead body. 😂
Eric, you are dead on.
I think you’ve got a typo on the production years of the Ford Essex V-4; it shows “1961-1877”
The only engine to go back in time!!! Come on. That's a selling point
I was about to say the same thing. Good that I wasn't the only one that noticed.
Doktor Hachi Roku its flux capacitor.. Not compensator
it was produced back to the future
I remember that engine in the 2000E Corsair, flying machine!
Those little V-4s are some sweet sounding engines.
Fond memories of the Ford Capri 2.0 litre V4 Essex. Lovely sound (like a Subaru 4 cylinder boxer engine) and the faint rear diff whine.
There was a V4 engine that Scat Engineering built for midget race cars. It was basically half of a small block Chevy. And there is the Motus motorcycle, which is powered by a V4 that looks like half of a scaled-down GM LS.
beat me to it! on the SCAT V-4
Make V4 great again
Hey, Donald? :D
V4 2 stroke with oil injection or fuck it, I’m sick of this overrated 4 stroke junk
ChrisBro see Ducati and Aprilia.....
1 litre, @13,000rpm, over 200hp, I'd say that's pretty great, at least on a roughly 400 pound motorcycle😀....
It's a tremendous engine and everybody knows it.
We need more V4s! They look and sound cool
All these v4 engines are nice,but I really like the Matra 530 sports car.its a shame that more people don't know about it,it seems like a charming little car
4.40
'Whoa Dude is that a rotary??'
'No, its much worse'
Matra 530 is the best sounding V4 car?
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alessandro ari zaluski you cant drive that on the street but ok, 530 2nd best sounding v4? xD
Lmao sounds like it’s misfiring
V4 sounds amazing
I recall seeing an article many years ago in an auto magazine regarding quarter midget sprint cars ,this was some time in the 60s ,they were band sawing chevy V-8s in half and using the back half to make V-4 engines out of them !!! wish i could find that article again .
Saab 96 came with 1,5 and 1,7 OHV V4
Saab also had a 2 stroke V-3
Saab used the Ford V4. Before that they had 2 and 3 cylinder straight two-strokes
Nope, those were straights.
Sorry, this was meant to come under the reaction of Jerry Lynch.
he's right they were v4's
1,498 cc Taunus V4 (gasoline)
1,698 cc Taunus V4 (gasoline)
0:35 Trabant have not rear mounted engine. It's front and TA.
You're right. It never had.
Interesting clips and he got most of it right about the ford v4 unit it was often a troublesome engine had an odd firing order like he said
I used to have a ford transit recovery truck with a 1700 v4
The Ford V4 as used in the Transit, Corsair etc and the post-1968 Saab 95/96 has four separate crankpins and even firing intervals (the sparking plug leads are equally spaced around the distributor cap, and the contact breaker cam lobes are equally spaced). With the 60 degree angle this gives a mechanical imbalance that is overcome by having a shaft with two lop-sided weights on it turning in the opposite direction to the crankshaft. It does in fact run very smoothly, but it has a rough sounding exhaust note because of the layout of the exhaust manifolds. Many 4-cylinder boxer engines (Subaru, original Volkswagen Beetle, Citroen GS) sound rough for the same reason, but the Alfa Romeo Alfasud boxer engine has a very smooth sound because it has four equal-length exhaust pipes from the cylinder heads to a junction into a single pipe.
v4 out board two stroke by Evinrude and Yamaha
Mercury, Johnson ...
Really surprised that the V4 configuration wasn't used much more often as they're such compact engines & very lightweight if air-cooled alloy units like the Mighty Mite!
Btw; I only speak English, but when I was young even I thought 'corps' was also pronounced the same as 'corpse' because that's the way I read it, not realising the 'p' is silent!
Those Fords sounded amazing!
Interesting video, my wife actually has a '74 Saab Sonett III with the 1.7l V4.
V4's are rough running engines, lots of vibration.
In a 90 degree configuration they are not bad, but in 60 degree configurations like the Ford ones they do vibrate.
The ford V4 was a remarkably bad starter (if at all). This problem made them very cheap so all and sundry owned them. One could hear them winding away their starters every where you went.
What a sweet sound from that little ZAZ
The first vehicle shown is commonly called the Jiholie.
The last of the "Baby Corvette" Opel GT's made by the Opel Corporation did have a V4 engine but I understand less than 500 of them were made.
Didn’t the Lancia Fulvia have a v-4?
Your friendly neighborhood Elite it's mentioned in the video at 4:30. The Lancia fulvia it's a great looking car.
Cheers
Carlos Garcia ah thanks! I guess I just missed it! The fulvia is a beaut
Yes.
Zaz 968
Awesome info on this one... no bullshit!
In 1979 I worked as a pipe fitter for Ingersol Rand building a assembly line for a gas V-4 that it turned out was going to eastern Europe. We showed up one morning and ABC, NBC, CBS and several major print media were outside of plant in Farmington Hills MI. It was quite the scandal. It turned out to be for a light tank type armored vehicle. I seem to remember some Ford Engineers were involved. We had set line up and had it ran, and were breaking down for shipping when SHTF. Our's was water cooled and was similar to my V 6 mustang 2.
I am sorry, but that Lancia engine isn't really a V4 engine, since it's not even a V engine, it's a VR engine (V-Reihe a.k.a V-Row). Just as the Golf R32 engine isn't a V6 nor it is a straight 6.
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Wrong. Narrow VEE is a V, but you're half right-it's not a straight 6.
Try telling that to a Lancia guy...
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VR engines are NOT inline, but narrow angle V. It doesn't matter that you don't like it, nor want it to be.
THAT's what the "V" signifies, what it DEMONSTRATES.
Nope! Even when it's a very small angle v, then it's still a v engine. Even if it has only one head. VR is a term which VW started to use during the late 80's / early 90's, just to differentiate itself from the more common traditional v. engines.
Exactly
So why didn't v4s take off?
The reason for them is that they are short and very compact, which means you can instal them ahead of the front axle for FWD. But they're more expensive to make, so if you don't need that facility (and most carmakers never did), it's unneeded expense. The extra outlay can be mitigated if you have a sister V6 in programme which shares all the same tools. This Ford had with their V4's (both Köln and Essex), so the expense was not a major issue.
Actually the V4 layout was used to make the lenght needed for the engine bay shorter for RWD cars, the mk1 Transit was the reason Ford did develop the Essex and the Taunus was originally developed for a new compact car for the US, the Cardinal, but that project grounded and instead the Taunus was developed around it.
While the German Taunus and British Cortina models were similar looking cars with only detail differences the V4 was only available in the Taunus besides a line of I4 engines
In a funny way Ford used inline fours for their smallest RWD model, the Escorts mk1 and mk2, where the advantages of a V4 could be most practicable.
When most of their cars got FWD, from the 1977 mk1 Fiesta, the V4's disappeared as they were more expensive to produce, with two separate cylinder blocks and heads for each engine.
Manufacturing cost also most of them weren't as smooth as an inline 4.
Quite common in motorcycles.
Possibly because they never fitted them in aircraft....😂
The cornering speed on that Porsche 😍😍
I can add 1 more to that list. Here in the UK my Dad once owned a Navy Blue Ford Zephyr MkIV and that had a 1.9Ltr V4 petrol engine with a manual column change gearbox.
WOW the power of the last one was awesome , it could spin it's wheels . . . In the snow
Like always good video
I always remember seeing a neighbours zephyr 4 engine bay great big long bonnet teensy v4 engine behind the spare wheel.
Good video,the Capri motor was also used in ford transit vans for many years also