Which Size Stick Welding Electrode Is Best?
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- Опубліковано 10 гру 2024
- Big ones, small ones, something in between? Let's find out!
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I don't know how you come up with your video ideas but I have found many welding searches I have done one of your videos pops up. I am always glad when it does because your videos are always informative and have no fluff or filler. Just a video that delivers what it promises in a timely matter for the subject being covered. Thanks Tim keep up the great work.
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I'm in the same boat, learning off my grandpa's old 225 ac stick.
Cobyc5150 pick up some 3/32 and 1/8 rods in 6011, 6013 and 7018 and you can repair a lot. I personally don't like the 6013 on a buzz box, maybe because they usually don't have infinite current adjustment for the rods sweet spot. You can find a few 1/16 rods for sheet metal.
Tim has the best vid for the home shop. There are other good welding channels, but have half of their content aimed at a pro or near pro practicing to take a weld test for a job and use equipment out of most diyer's price range.
As someone who's brand-new to this stuff, I bought the courses to help out while I'm taking classes for it, and they've been super helpful, especially since you went to the trouble to put all the notes with them. So....thanks!! :)
thats actually really interesting, i started with mig but ive gotten to run quite a bit of 6013 around the shop the last few months, i always assumed smaller rod for thinner material bigger rod for thicker, good to know that those small rods get just about the same penetration and gives me a better appreciation for how important amp settings are. when i first started with stick i would crank it to whatever the max setting for the rod was and leave it there for uphill, downhill, flat and overhead. if i blew a hole in something id switch to my mig and think that you just cant weld something that thin with stick, after a month or so i got it dialed in and i can tell just how big a difference there is between 80 and 90 amps etc. being self taugh can be a bitch sometimes but your videos really help, i was stuck on up hill welding up until just about a week ago where i found your video talking about rod angle, got my first half way decent uphill the next day.
Good video, good explanation.
I was an apprentice welder, and certified as a journeyman the first time with a 7018 in the 6G position. That being said, it is a challenge to carry a larger amount of metal in a vertical weld.
You're awesome, man! I bought a stick welder ($60) on Monday and have been gobbling up your videos.
My welds look like absolute ass but they're 300% better on Wednesday than Monday. I'm so dorked about this. It seems like freaking magic that any of it works.
Nice work! It's so fun, you're going to be hooked.
I use smaller rod for the root pass because I can get it in closer then bigger rod for the cover/fill passes.
I’m from the the UK that uses the metric system but I’d say the 1/8” / 10 gauge (3.2mm) because it’s the best positional rod & the most chosen size for using to put a root in with most pipe sizes
All the welds where good, you might of liked a larger size but each weld had a good spead and bite.
There's a good depth of fusion, it's doing it's job, you have to get the mass in the joint an have a good joint plan.
Fantastic video I’ve been wanting to give stick welding ago for a long time and I’ve all ways wondered about the size of the electrode and the difference in them welding wise. Big thanks and great work 👍
Good Job Tim 👍🏼Your videos are great, they get to the point and no bullshit.
Other welding videos are too complicated, too much info lost and confused.
This video couldn’t have at a better time! Will be buying your courses soon!
Hi mate,
You just answered my questions
To use small rods for thicker piece of metal
Thank you so much for your time to explain
Another great one Tim . . . very good video shots and explanation. You are the Man Sir . . . appreciate you so much!
😂Question..
The stick welding course only
Anyway I am Oldman and a professional commercial handyman..but I learn slow..
There are quite a few lessons offered.. in the stick only classes. Can I rewatch a lesson as many times as it takes to get pass my thick brain..?
Thank you
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Exactly the information I needed thank you
Very helpful, clear and to the point, great comparison and info thank you.
Before your video, I was wondering if I made a mistake about 4mm rods it's 6013 but I think considering your explanation I think it's really fine now. My welding surface is 3mm and 6 mm usually and go up to 18mm for flanges
my old lincoln electrode welding lesson book uses 5/32 6010 to weld even thin metal like .125
Great idea to translate dimensions in metric system. Very useful for an european! Thanks.
But i do have a {old school) 225 ac Lincoln i will be firing up in a few days just waiting for a part and we see how that works on these stubborn rods.
Very professional work!
You’re coming up with a lot of videos as of late. That’s nice to see.
No luck my 6011 or 7018 rods wont weld they keep sticking and burning up....am i not kicking out enough amps or to much i just cant figure it out...but 6013s burn great between 70 to 80 amps... what do i do ?
Cant beat AC for running large dia rods especially on heavy materials in position. Back in my shipyard days I knew some guys who were wizard's using 5.0mm mild steel rods on vertical butts ,fillets and overhead butts and fillets
Oven cleaner works well too, for penetrations tests.
Excellent video and amazing presentation! Just one comment on the classification. They don't need the "R". Instead of ER7018 use E7018.
Very informative video Tim 👍I always switch over to stick from mig if I know the weld is going to be ground down, (I hate doing it but is a necessary evil 😈 sometimes fabricating smokers) due to the higher penetration.
Great video with excellent content, thanks.
Very nice explanation
That was "cool" and quite helpful! Thanks!😊
Thanks for the lesson!
Your video was very helpful tthank u for explaining how stick welding work I notice it's 3 different size with different #s on it plus I see the difference from all 3 tho 💪💪💪💪
Great information, thanks Tim.
If the pieces are welded together, why is penetration a concern in the Tee joint? If I was gluing parts together or soldering parts together I can see that a larger connection area would give more adhesion force. But since the weld fuses material, unless the filler material has lower tensile strength than the base metal, why would penetration matter. Wouldn't the size of the weld determine the strength the joint, so the rod that can give the weld size needed the be what is important in determining which size rod to use?
What stick for 4.8 i think is 3/16ths square tubing im going to use the Azzuno Amazon welder to finish welding this 3/16 steel tubing for a utility trailer.
With a 1/8 rod, you can control it better specially on vertical up
Could this be why I don't have any penetration on my 8mm material fillet welds with 3.2mm 7018 rods? I have been trying everything but once the weld has been ground flush I can see it's not penetrated much at all and a small hammer is all that's needed.
mostly you cant penetrate deeper than 2mm no matter which electrode. so you have to make a v notch
Is it possible your welder is not putting out the amps it says? Try turning it up. Our 7018 rods are medium penetration and tolerate a little surface contamination. Is your base metal clean?
Depends on the application
more passes increases heat input and warpage
I love the video. One interesting point you bring up is the engineering aspect of it. I know it's a specialization in itself but perhaps you could make a video either by yourself or invite an engineer to talk general rules of thumb for DIY-ers. For example as a learning home welder I have no intuition if these welds you've shown on the thick plate, if they are ok or not. Your conclusion is that you can use tha smaller electrode on thick stock - I couldn't make that as a DIY. Probably need to find a good welding book as well :)
Looks like penetration is a tiny bit deeper on 5/32, have you measured it? How about comparing to short circuit Mig, Mag, Fcaw, Fcaws and spray?
I imagine spray would be the champ, but for most people, they would need pulse to use for repairs. By then you're out a normal garage welders price range ( unless you get that $400 Yesss welder that does everything.)
It looks like stick is the ticket for a little bit of thick metal work. I think you need a big welder to run the wire needed to penetrate thick steel.
Good god that looks better that what I’m laying down
Remember people, 120volt amazon welders are rated for 1/16th rods! I've found 6011 1/16 rods to work best for general home purposes.
I just welded 1/4” plates with 6013 rods at 55amps using my 12v yesswelder 160 . And this is my first welder
The welder might handle 3/32 if it can get to 90A. If a 1/8 rod is fiery hot or only sticks s little, it might run the 3/32. The HF Titanium is rated for 75A on 110, that would not always be good on 3/32.
Hi Tim! Would it be possible for you to review 7014 rod? I am especially interested in its ability to tack weld and I am interested to see how it would perform on sheet metal. Thanks!
Just starting out, just a point, alot of the world works in mm not inches, would be nice to include both measurements
I'm not sure what country you're in, but in the US, all supplies are in fractions of an inch. We are getting more exposed to it by the chinese import welders, some not having fractions or 1000ths.
1/16" = 1.5mm pretty hard to find, weld supply stores just laugh
5/64" = 2 mm-- I have only seen this in blue demon brand
1/8". = 3.2mm
5/32 = 4mm
Growing up all dad had was 1/8" rod and a buzz box. I was doing a lot.of tacking.
Are small rods easy to find in all type in other countries?
Is it possible to weld through slag-holes? they are too tiny to be ground out without spoiling the workpiece.
I tend to find 1/8 inch rods produce more pretty beads
1/4" is better
where do you recommend looking for good quality electrodes? i am new to stick welding. got some electrodes at harbor freight but not sure if they are poor quality or i am just not very skilled yet!
How to weld eutectic + castolin xuper 6055
Hi sir am from the Philippines and I am doing some DIY stuff and a beginner when it comes to welding. ..i would like to ask the best size of rod for a 1.5mm thick metal and the right amper
Thank you and I hope you can see this comment..
Godbess more power to your chanel
so interesting .Question do electrode packages have a recomended starting amperage on them that you can fine tune into the material your welding. or where is there a chart ? egsample a 7018 rod is between70 or 80 amps say ? I have a big gas welder from auction but just a guess and by golly welder .my electrodes are all in the plastic storage tubes from previous owner.
This is old, but yes boxes have recommended current range for their rods. I see sometimes a 1OA difference, but this is eventually where you need to tune your weld into your welder. Even good machines can be 10A off of the display, so you might have a 20A difference worst case.
Are all stick welding rod the same length? What is that length? I can't seem to find any info on this.
No. Smaller diameters are shorter..
Hello can 220v maxmeck welding machine weld 7018
Great info thanks
Tim, I have a 90amp stick welder to start learning small... Which rods fit best for this size welder?
3/32
How many amps is your welder pulling from the wall?
As an electrician/"barn-yard welder" I once measured stick current with my clamp-on ammeter and it matched the selected current on my Craftsman "transformer" welder. The 240V supply current measured proportional to the selected welding current. So figure if you select the maximum rated weld current (220A) the welder will draw its full rated 50A from the wall. So 110A welding current would draw 25A from the wall. 70A will draw about 16A from the wall.
If you have a 120V "stick" welder, you can double the above wall-supplied currents for the same welding currents. So the maximum welding current you can expect from a 120V "transformer" welder would be 2.2 x 20A = 44A before tripping the house breaker. Not very useful for general metal shop work but maybe enough for "hobby" sheet metal work. Given that most welders have a duty cycle limit for higher welding currents, and circuit breakers take a minute or more to trip at their rated current, you could probably push the weld currents a bit higher in short bursts of usage at either supply voltage. I'm guessing that you could get more available and usable welding current from a "modern" "inverter" welder (the newer smaller ones that weigh about 1/4 of an older "transformer" welder).
If you use "the wife's" 30A 240V dryer outlet for your occasional welding you will be limited to about 120A welding current before tripping the "house" breaker. This has often proven enough capacity for the renter, small shop and "barnyard" occasional welder.
Obviously its hard to beat a fully equipped shop if you are lucky enough to have one.
This is limited experience. If others have better information, feel free to comment.
Could you do a video on voltage? I see everywhere talking about amperage but if my highschool knowledge doesn't fail me, the power is totally dependent on voltage too, and the same manufacturer have different voltages for different machines. Mine is 59V so technically even the ballpark you advise should be adjusted. Am I missing something?
I think stick welders use 120 or 240 volts and you adjust the amps accordingly,,on mig welders you can adjust the volts but its usually nowhere near 120.
@@slamdunk6170 sorry if I was not clear, I mean voltage output (usually DC) not input (AC)
Great info!
Excellent 🙏🏼
The best rod is the rod that suits the job.
Thanks Tim jimmy Aust
Doesn't that depend on the thickness and make-up of the material being welded
Very helpful vidio nice sir
Cool video
Awesome information ... without all the extra verbal bullshit so many "teachers" spew to make themselves seem knowledgeable!!!🤗
glad it missed your eye
Every time he says "3-30 seconds of a inch" I cry in metric....
On your well why don’t you bring it when you almost get to the end bring it back into the world and circle it and pull it out
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What hit you in the face buddy?
Wife
looks like you got a bad burn on your face.please be more safe ?
What happened to your face in this video?
No offence but you should have started with the larger electrode first just because the material was cold and you used the smallest rod at the lowest amperage first so the smaller let rose is getting robbed on the penetration lol
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