The Five Most Powerful Nen Users in HXH
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I admire your hability to keep doing HxH videos with almost 0 new stuff from the source.
He did that through the big hiatus pre 391 for ages too, he’s discovered the secret to making something from nothing lmao
@@stealthy25_ So he's a conjurer
@@H3nrque maybe a specialist ability similar to emperor time, since he also uses enhancement to make the content better, emission to send to to us and manipulation to make us subscribe
@@stealthy25_ HAHAAHAHAHAHHA LIAAAAAMM
@@H3nrque and a skilled Manipulator
I like the idea that Pariston could be in the top 5 but purposefully hid his full power to skew the metrics, not out of humility or desire to obfuscate, but only because its funny to make Netero wrong about something, which he would revel in.
Je agrée absolument
What’s obfuscate and revel
@@soultheconfusing9563 You're on the internet, google it
@@soultheconfusing9563 Obfuscate is to hide and revel is to pretty much enjoy a situation
Nahh, if he was so powerfull Ging wouldnt underestimate him
The best one’s gotta be Tonpa, I mean he uses his Godly powers to transmute his aura into deadly juice and have you ever seen King Meruem take the Hunter Exam? No cause he’s scared of Tonpa🧃
I mean the guy is a bean but hes so powerfull he can act like a human and nobody noticed
Tonpa and bean guy aren't the same
yeah, that juica has saved gon and killua from a man eating frog. without tonpa gon's story wouldve ended righht there
@@Archontasil killua stated in that episode that he could have easily stabbed his way through the frog, had they not had the juice.
the juice is loose 🧃🧃🧃
The thing to remember about Zeno Zoldyck is that as an assassin, he is trained to always overestimate his opponent and that a 50-50 battle is loosing odds. So it's entirely possible he could actually wipe the floor with Chrollo or be equal to Netero and just overstates their power because it's a fight he doesn't see as a sure thing.
THIS!! Everyone in HxH fandom should know this. So many of them underestimate Zeno when he says it's not certain who wins if Chrollo fights him with killing intent. From the things that have been shown, I believe the meaning of Zeno's words was because he doesn't know what Chrollo's abilities are yet, so he's not sure if he wins, but that doesn't mean he will lose, it's just that he doesn't know who will win. I think Zeno will definitely beat Chrollo if he knows how Chrollo's nen ability works
I could buy him beating chrollo, but there is zero chance at all that he’s anywhere near netero.
True.
He’s said netero has always been superior to him though. That + him not being able to easily speed blitz Chrollo when netero obviously would be able to really makes the Zeno Zoldyck dicksucking baseless. The only reason people think he’s stronger than Silva (who is the head of the family currently, which leads me to believe he is the currently strongest Zoldyck) is because we’ve seen him do more stuff/he has more screen time and backstory with strong characters like Netero.
@@ibsgod3982 right. There’s no reason to think Zeno is stronger than Silva other than hype
I think we’ve been taking the “sparring” with Zodiacs too literally, it’s just too hard to imagine Netero throwing hands with Cheadle. 😂
Yes, you're right. He could spare differently with each and everyone of them.
Even a game of chess against cheadle would be sparring 😂
@@506Edai He was probably mind training turning Pariston into dust over and over if that counts. 🙂
@@ZanderX10 should count 😂
He liked pariston though, he liked gis attitude and not being a yes man lol
I want to see how strong the rat is 😂
Nah man you just need to hop on the Cheadle agenda 🌟🌟🌟
This guy is keeping the fandom alive with no new information, for years !!!
Also one of my favorite quote from Killua Grandpa "the old man (netero) was already an old man when i met him as a child" implying that netero could be over ~110 years, unless some specific evidence is found.
Komugis Nen Ability was a Question for a long time and the main-reason to doubt it's Enhancement was that 'enhacning somethig' doesnt really make sense for Intellect if you remember what Intellect is. But nah, it's Enhancement, so i gues one can just 'Enhance Concepts'. Man, wonder if Togashi plans to ever tell us Basics like WHAT can be enhanced
Netero: pitou is more powerful than me
Also netero: slaps the shit out of pitou before they can even register what happened
Tbf though, pitous aura capacity is much larger than netero's. Pitou's been able to use en covering a whole large area for days, and tnetero's slap dealt almost no damage. I think if they were to fight, netero would just keep slapping pitou with almost no diff, until he runs out of gas, and if pitou can tank that much damage until netero runs out dry, which im guessing pitou can, then netero would lose.
@@Punk_vise07 yeah fair, I was just pointing out how he underestimates himself.
He probably sees himself as weak because he knows he used to be much more powerful
@@Punk_vise07pitou is not beating netero stop it , even meruem eventually started to get scratched up by netero , also netero could also just nuke himself and take them both out like he did with meruem , it’s like the 8 gates
@@godusopp2752 Netero had to prepare for a month to go into a fight the ants weren’t expecting and Pitou was tough enough to survive a blow from Meruem that was meant to kill them so…
@@theyoungknight.3119 Pitou can survive a single hit,but can he survive a thousand hits? Even the king felt a slight pain from taking so many hits from netero and he's much durable than pitou
I think it’s likely Pariston had a less combative Nen ability- him being very skilled but not classically combatively powerful would add to why Netero couldn’t stand him.
I agree, it's 100% something non-aggressive, but extremely annoying, that he uses like a master to make him untouchable.
I can't think of anything specific, but something like Lemillion's power (phasing through everything) from My Hero Academia. Since it'd annoy Netero that he can't punch him. There's probably cooler ideas, but my mind is blank.
you know what's scary about Bisky? I've found myself thinking about her broken nen ability several times, and thinking, how ridiculously strong she would be if, she trained and spent a lot of time training hard like 10, 20 or 30 years, and having the support of her nen ability that multiplies the effectiveness of training several times?
Compressing 1 year of training into a month seems absurdly strong, imagine how powerful Netero would have been if throughout his entire life, especially in the period from his youth to his peak, he had the backing and support of a Nen user with a skill focused on growth like Bisky? imagine, a Netero who trained 5, 10 times more... that for others too, like Hisoka, Chrollo, Illumi and so on.
So for me Bisky is a mystery, depending on how much effort and time the author says she spent training and using her nen ability, she can have power from a strong nen user to absurd values like being much stronger than netero at his peak, after all, if for example the author says in the future that she trained for 30, 40 years, and having 5 to 10 times more efficiency than the others, thanks to her super fast recovery and being able to train almost without stopping, she would have to have a horrible talent to not be a complete monster doing extreme training that would exhaust one's body in 1~3 hours, recover in 30 minutes instead of days or dozens of hours like everyone else and repeat again and again for decades.
Maybe but I think there has to be a technical peak to a person's ability even with quick recovery. Like Gon's nen vow made him as strong as his absolute peak, so perhaps Bisky could get him there sooner than natural training assuming his body could be fully grown but he'd never go beyond it. So something close to Meruem level but never stomping Meruem easily.
Her ability is also not good for fighting and she isn't a pure enhancer, which leaves her with a serious downside for fighting ability even with her strength. She definitely seems more like an excellent training instructor to train talented young fighters to their peak.
I agree and would even add that she maintain that kid form as a condition to gain even more power like "I will be vulnerable most of the time and force my self to be in that state 24hours but when I transform back I will be stronger"
Cause like it or not she is using nen 24/7 to keep her body like that 24/7 it sounds like someone flexing their muscles 24/7 but with nen, I think she is a monster that was not presented yet
@@ZanderX10 Remember how strong Netero’s Hatsu was? And that was using the categories that he was by far the weakest in.
So, even with her not being a pure engender type, she’d be ungodly powerful.
Also, about her Nen not being the best for fighting. I’d argue it’s actually one of the best. Sure, it may not be some sort of attack, but training in this series is the method to get stronger, and that’s specifically what she does.
I do agree with you though, on there may be some sort of cap on how strong a character can get. Mainly due to Gon’s transformation, and when Killua & Gon began learning about Nen, and lastly due to Netero.
Having trained for as long as he had, and feeling as if he got to a point that he wouldn’t improve anymore.
( Unless I misunderstood the wording)
all bisly's's ability would ha e done for netero is make him reacg his peak younger. it is well known that netero got as atrong as his potential took him. and after that is when he stopped histraining and began meditating.
also i highly doubt bisky is as skilled or strong as netero.
she might be top 20 though.
just no. how did bisky get her strong body? ah, through training. and I would guess just as you described it?!?! at netero his backstoy it was mentioned that he has reached the maximum of physical and mental strength. so he could only become stronger if he created certain prerequisites for his nen like kurapika. That's where prayer came into play and has exceeded the limits of what is possible. you can write such theories in dragon ball z, but please do not write such bullshit in hunterxhunter. this is an insult to togashi's combat system.
Wasn't Netero's meditation specifically to charge up the Zero Hand and not necessarily preparation for the entire fight against Meruem? Remember the Zero Hand was a las resort as far as his nen and life force was concerned. And the Rose was his absolute last LAST resort.
I honestly think that Ging is considered one of the best Nen users by Netero based mostly on his ability to replicate abilities in a more advanced way, while we're still in the dark about what his category and ability is, we know that he can almost completely understand an ability if he gets hit by it. Based on this, if he's able to go outside his Nen category to use those abilities and STILL make them more powerful, Ging probably would cause the same problem Youpi did for Knuckle based on sheer quantity.
I feel like Ging (or at least his technique) has to be a specialist because it's similar to other ability stealing techniques like Skill Hunter and that one Kakin Prince's ability where he gets the ability of his subordinates.
Granted, what I said is pure speculation and we all know Togashi works in mysterious ways, so who knows really.
@@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 I don't think his ability is to steal, given the number of people he has helped to develop the abilities of, I just think he's a natural at understanding the complexities. Kite was basically the only one who was unaware that his crazy slots ability actually gave him what he wanted/needed, and Ging was the one who helped him develop it. He may be a mental enhancer like Komugi for all we know, and he specializes in Nen Knowledge.
@@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 Ging doesn’t steal techniques
lol you guys know that not a single one of his abilities has been confirmed or even really hinted at right?
@@oniinu He copied Leorio's Nen abilities, while not his own, it shows an immense understanding of Nen.
The Biscuit is better nen-user than Chrolo:
Technically correct. Chrolo is an exceptional nen-master, but his true power comes from utility. He himself may not be insanely powerful as a raw nen user, but has the flexibility of combining other nen-users power.
He is like Rockman combined with 4d-chess, where he can collect nen-abilities and elevate them into a more powerful, unnatural combination. As we seen it in Heavens Arena where he can wombo-combo different abilities. Majority of nen abilities can be hard coutnered. Its the typical shounen trope where the enemy is powerful, until you find the Achiles-weakspot, so most fights go on, until you figure out the hard-counter of your enemy.
But when it comes to Chrolo, its like:
"Oh... ok... so you found out that I am stealing abilities. Good for you. Now what? All you can do is to prevent me to getting an ability, not using it, or now you can have fun "unlocking" this ability now... "
And Kurapika is heading to this direction too with his skill-stealing
I think Greed Island Chrollo is still a joke compared to Chrollo during the Heaven's Arena fight. Bookmark etc make him so fucking much stronger in nen combat it's not even remotely funny.
I've always thought the potential of Zoldyck family was mysterious. that's why they're not ranked. while Killua is on the list because he often appears in shows
I think just by looking at the relative physical condition of the Netero trio you can tell their level of nen mastery. Netero looks decades younger than he really is. Zygg's shriveled in his old age but still active. And Linne clearly fared the worst.
What's amazing about Bisky is that she isn't even specialized in fighting, assassination, etc. She is a Stone Hunter and all her hatsu are for health, recovery and beauty. Piano Massage and Magic Spa are probably Transmutation or Manipulation.... yet they are diametrical (with some Enhancement, Emission and Conjuration thrown in). Biscuit is supposed to be a transmuter, but her abilities are as if she is a Specialist. For her to be that powerful, even with the handicap of using Nen outside of her natural affinity.... easily top-5 Nen user.
if you give Phinks like 20 minutes he clears all of these guys
And sleeping opponents? ^^
Nahh bro they all got cooked by Razor how does he clean them up
@@unheardslyme why he need 20 mins, to crank his arm
He would still lose. Time better spent cranking his hog instead. @@brandoncunningham7253
The Zeno ,Zigg/Maha, and Silva debate is definitely the hardest to me. I feel in a fight Silva is the strongest Zoldyck to me as of now. I feel Zeno definitely has the best control of his nen though. If the hype behind Zigg is real then he could also be in the same situation as Zeno. Hell we know he's still active somewhat since the manga showed him with Kalluto I think. But going back to Silva I would put him in the top 5 since I see him fairing better in a fight against Netero.
I agree.
I'll go one step further and say that Silva is more dangerous because of the fact that I think no one outside of Zeno, Zigg and Maha knows his true abilities.
He goes out to kill and then heads back home.
He's a true assassin.
Whereas Zeno, Zigg, Maha, Killua, Illumi, Kalluto all have outside connections via the Hunter Association and the Spiders so someone has a scope of their abilities.
He's the true dark horse of that house.
i think the current leader of the zoldyck is always the strongest . and the leader switches when there is someone in the family that surpasses him. It would make sense that it would be most a hiearchy of power and ability to kill stronger targets.
That is also supported by how hard they are trying to groom killua to become the next head despite his huge mental flaws , with him being the most talented zoldyck in history and all.
I always thought Zeno was chatting with Silva after returning home to enjoy a very fancy meal, because of what he said after Silva killed Cheetu. Something like, I gotta tell you about this crazy thing I witnessed! Which segues into that cut scene quite neatly.
Liam on his way to make 456789th video about most powerful nen user.
A good thing about biscy is that she scales well into lategame since she invests her nen into making her younger, giving her more time to drag out that peak. Even her adult form does not look 10 years younger than zeno soldyk.
Thank you Liam and team for making such great and funny content. The editing and drawings are always a plus and very unique
Lord Tonpa is So powerful that he wasn't even mentioned in the video for fear of angering him by putting him in a limited list with inferior entities
I'm surprised that you're surprised by Bisky being a top 5 Nen User in HXH.
I always see her as that due to the fact that she's constantly using Zetsu to contain her massive aura, she also taught Gon about this principle and what will happen if you do the exact opposite with a heavy sacrifice.
Does anyone else think that Netero made a Nen contract before fighting Meruem? Something akin to what Gon did against Pitou, which would be a really cool narrative parallel.
With Netero's experience, it stands to reason that he knew he couldn't win this fight. Knowing he would die, he decides to juice himself up as hard as he possibly can to best enjoy his final moments. After all, his entire life has been spent trying to find a worthy adversary. He is absolutely the type to walk into certain death if it means enjoying the greatest battle history has ever seen (in his perspective).
I imagine his contract would sound something like this: after a contract-boosted aura production period (his scary meditation), Netero would never be able to produce Aura ever again. Whatever he makes is all he's got left. This is evidenced by his wretched, depleted appearance at the end of his fight. Given how old as Netero is, I wager that his life and health are directly sustained by his aura, so without it, he'd surely just wither and die. And his "meditation" was likely an extremely long, sustained Ren, giving him as much aura as he could muster to fight Meruem. Killua even freaked out at it when he wandered too close, reacting pretty similarly to when he unconsciously experienced malicious Ren before.
Maybe y'all have heard this theory before, but I really like it. It makes his conversation with Knov and Morrel a little more genuine. They both have excellent tactical acumen, and Netero may have considered the two of them working together as a decent fight. At least in that moment, before he charged up his laser for however long that was.
He wouldn't have needed to meditate for so long if he had made a vow.
Just like gon, makes vow, gets powerup right away and kick shii.
He could have made a vow after losing an arm a leg
But he didn't need to, because his plan b, the bomb was already enough to make sure.
gon sacrifed years of potential, netero already hit his, there is nothing more to offer for the nen vow
It probably goes against his principles... at least in my head canon. I think he'd see a contract as "cheating" after all his years of practice. But I do like this theory, better than my idea of him just being a stubborn battle crazed old man lol
@@spacey9707 well, there could still be something, he could've still gotten stronger somehow.. maybe even went back to his peak/prime 🤷🏾♂️
@@Kaiji... well he was a stubborn battle crazed old man though.
You're missing the whole point of netero mate !
i completely disagree with the zeno inconsistency thing, togashi blatantly stated zeno had more aura than chrollo and he quickly gained the upper hand on him, he thought chrollo was so dangerous because his ability is incredibly hax and he is a cautious man
If Netero knew about him, it’s hard not to consider Razor is we’re talking power. We only ever saw him use a small portion of his nen and he easily outdid Gon who was basically only notable for his nen quantity.
The no enemies part, very important haha. Nothing but love tho
Why did you put Pitou in 5th at 2:58? I found that oddly satisfying and funny
I can't look at Ging's panda without think of that Gon theory💀
I honestly hope that we haven’t been introduced to all of the people on the list already. Ging is obviously on the list, but if Bisky knows the whole thing then Beyond probably wasn’t on it, with him being a secret child and all.
Ging is looked at as a once-in-a-generation prodigy when it comes to Nen, and so I think the standards are at least at that level. I honestly don’t think that any of the other Zodiacs live up to that sort of billing, as they quickly concede that they’re overmatched by Ging and Pariston during the election arc. Paristins abilities are unknown, but I don’t think hes a “power” type Nen user. Bisky probably is the next closest candidate in the Hunter association (that we know of).
Maybe Gon's mom is one lol. Just an enhancer who punched Ging so hard he went "Sure I'll fuck that" and thus Gon was made by her before she decided to go out for milk. Fitting the only women Ging would breed with would share his ability to neglect his son.
What if Pariston is really impotent using nen, and he managed to outsmart the entire association that's why Netero likes him so much.
if he is really impotent then he surely disnt outsmart ging.
Going from raw power alone, I think a decent candidate for that number 5 slot could be Razor. Especially looking at Phinks' and the troupe's reaction when they meet him on GI.
So you think Netero played greed island?
@@theyoungknight.3119 Razor was a criminal that was caught by Ging himself and I don't think he underwent significant training since then so it's not too crazy to think he's heard about him at some point or even from Ging himself perhaps
Razor was only strong because of the restrictions placed on his nen. He most likely can't use his nen anywhere other than greed island.
I think razor is raw strength, not power !
Hisoka victim
Chrollo is a floor master at Heaven's Arena so it makes sense for Netero to be aware of him. No reason he couldn't be on his short list.
He wasn't a floor master at the time the top 5 nen users was stated
@@nnightkingj I thought Netero said "I haven't been at the top in 50 years." During Chimera Ant arc. One or more of those people could be dead and he's just keeping a mental list.
He’s not really top 5 strongest, bisky beats him tbh
@@Filialbertogarcia Chrollo could probably win, but not in raw nen or power. The guy has some cheaty abilities. Which is his thing.
the editing is really well done and thoughtful... its very impressive.
I find it hilarious that botobai is a terrorist hunter, but when the phantom troupe were committing genocide and reeking havoc in York new city he was just like nah I’m good
I think the top 5 nen users are actually as follows (and in no particular order)
Ging- obviously the story just confirms him
Botobai- considered closest to Netero and regardless of whatever that means since Netero respects strength more than everything that implies he's close to him because he's strong
Beyond- he's Netero's son so his placement is kinda obvious
Zigg- he's almost certainly stronger than Zeno since Zeno himself literally says he's nowhere near Netero's level but stated that it was impressive that Netero fought Zigg and lived implying that Zigg at least was considered to be near his level when they fought if it was surprising that Netero could just survive against him
IPA Director- the IPA director is massively underrated and not really talked about despite being the only other person besides Netero and Beyond (2 other top 5 nen users) to actually be able to survive the dc unscathed. Therefore I personally think he must be extremely powerful to have been able to pull off a feat that only Netero and Beyond can pull off and just like Netero and Zigg old age shouldn't really mean anything in terms of power drop off since clearly being old didn't really limit Netero in power at all.
The theory that maybe Don Freecss is in his top 5 is interesting but it's unclear if Netero could have found him especially if he never went to the west side of the continent. Also it might somewhat take away from Gings mission to find Don if Netero already did but it's still possible. Don might be a replacement for the IPA director in the top 5 but imo that's really contingent on whether or not Netero has ever met him before as I doubt he'd just give him that title without ever meeting.
Netero fought Maha Zoldyck not Zigg
Based on strength and using what we know, this is almost the same list I would have made. I mighta subbed out IPA or Botobai for King Nasubi Hui Guo Rou.
@Nahan Ng as far as we know Maha and Zzig are most likely the same person, as Maha translates to Patriarch of the family. Until Togashi confirms otherwise they could be the same person, or brothers/twins, or father son etc
@@mz1929 Your logic is incredibly flawed. You have no basis or logical reasoning for this statement. Zigg and Maha are to be assumed to be different people until confirmed otherwise, not the other way around.
@jamaledits9120 wow you are illiterate... I literally give basis and reasoning and also state what you said. This is the most pointless and useless comment response I have ever read.
Yes,his hard work cannot be matched with chrollo,gon,bisky,akulla or anyone
He earned that by doing same simple things again and again ..like bruce lee said "u don't become lethal by knowing numbers of techniques or styles but that one move that u practice again and again ...is what makes u lethal"
Really fun video to explore some power thoughts. I always enjoy taking a break with you. Thanks for all the great thought experiments.
I think Maha might still be stronger than Zeno. He seemingly still goes on missions so I doubt his aging has afected him to the extent that it has had on Linnet.
Please more videos to keep HxH alive, I'm in such a need to read more of this amazing story...
Can you say, "She sells seashells by the seashore" for me next video, please?
Now that u mention it, you never did another iceberg episode. Is that still going to happen?
I'm saying
Should have more likes so he could likely see this.
Ive been watching your videos for months and it's at this point I have to stop and recognize you as the best UA-camr. The creativity you put in your speech is second to none
Netero being a youtubre is something i never thought of but now i want
Great vid! Love the level of analysis! The abrupt cuts back and forth and fast vibrating character cutouts are jarring though
Would you consider making a video about most powerful Nen duo as well? 🤔
Speculation: Chrollo and Kurapika have the best and most versatile Nen abilities, being able to steal and combine different abilities from other users. I think Ging brings this to a new level, being able to invent and create abilities on a whim, probably to an extend far beyond what we have ever seen. Making him almost God-like in power. This is kind of supported by him copying abilities without it actually being his Nen ability, it's also supported to his unique status in the hunter world and his insane confidence.
Hello 👋
I am from France and we too have a lot of UA-camrs on mangas such as One Piece and HxH. But I just love your channels >< the way you talk and maybe also your voice ! And the informations on your videos, not that your French UA-camrs are bad ! Just that yours is awe fudging some !
And you love 2 of my 3 favorite mangas ever, the 3rd one being Berserk. That I’m sure you love or would love !
Love the content. Another great video. I hate it when you make the graphics vibrate tho. A slow shake from side to side is alright, but every time I see them vibrate it makes me totally lose focus on what's being said.
I think take the “I’m not top 5 in the world” with a grain of salt , netero vastly underestimates himself because he’s not as strong as he was in his youth
NOOOOO I WAS JUST ABOUT TO MAKE THIS SAME VIDEO 😭😭😭 Great video tho :)
hey man, love the videos. Great content. I'm having a bit of a problem actually watching them though due to the, in my view, excessive shaking of the cardboard cut outs put in the video. Probably a visual sensitivity thing i have but would be great to do without. thanks
So much art, animation and editing. Great work!
I'd like to imagine that Don was the reason that Don was there the first time Netero went to the dark continent, whether he convinced them to join him, was already there or the one to let Netero know about it. As for the second time they wanted to try and find Don or at least the book he was working on
Technically the zodiacs did run into the troupe on the whale? Or at least Mizaistom and Botobai run into Illumi and Kalluto and seem more surprised than anything that all the Spiders are there and even run defense for them from security. There doesn't seem to be any animosity. They just seem worried it'll cause conflict if Kurapika or the Troupe realize the other is also on board the ship
Great video love your hxh video so much and thanks for talking about Zeno inconsistency with Chrollo I never knew about that very interesting stuff❤❤❤
I love the Blitzball in the hand of Netero easter egg at 2:16 !
Another awesome video the Grandline Revi- I mean the New World Review. I love all these videos like always
(Although it will take a while for the next HxH chapter to come out we got to be patient!)
that thumbnail is a good way to get ppl to click on this lmao
I don't think he lied. Purple haze user is "weaker" but uses his ability as smart as netero giving him a chance at victory. I think hide and seek is way stronger than netero but he mentally is too weak.
Keep up the great work and video Liam
I think someone like Ging probably has the power and intelligence to solo the entire Phantom Troupe at once. That is where I put him and other top end Nen users at least.
Imo, the reason Chrollo wouldn't make it to the top five is that he relies too much on the abilities he steals, sure, he does it wonderfully, but that would make him "crafty" and not "mighty" and i would guess Netero ranks by the 2nd criteria
I think that any serious fight again Chrollo will not demonstrate power so much as combat experience, versatility, and endurance. Zeno and Silva both knew that Chrollo was a specialist that can steal and use stolen Nen abilities. This means that they have to make sure their own abilities are not stolen and that they cannot prepare at all for any of the possible abilities he may have. This requires a long slow battle because the only way to gain the experience and knowledge necessary to safely win is within that battle itself. If he had just come in with a nuke of an ability and Chrollo had some sort of reflect all damage skill then Zeno would have instantly killed himself and Zeno knew this.
I always knew Zeno was gonna be super powerful wish we got to see more of him, he was holding back during the chrollo fight to learn/understand his abilities
Komugis Nen Ability was a Question for a long time and the main-reason to doubt it's Enhancement was that 'enhacning somethig' doesnt really make sense for Intellect if you remember what Intellect is. But nah, it's Enhancement, so i gues one can just 'Enhance Concepts'. Man, wonder if Togashi plans to ever tell us Basics like WHAT can be enhanced
I don't usually go for speculation videos but I have to say I love this list Don Freeces at the end was perfect
Top 6 current no particular order honorable mention maha/zigg being the strongest right now and don freecs being the strongest in the series potentially!
Botobai
Beyond
Zeno
Ging
Silva
Pariston
I like how free Gings placement is
One of the best at anything he actually put his mind to
the thumbnail was really good on this video
The way you insert your photos at random times cracks me up more
Good video Liam. Keep up the great work!
Question: Did I missed the deepest part of the iceberg video, or it hasn't been released yet?
I think Hisoka is rating based on how well they could give him a fight instead of just strength.
Zeno was speaking to Silver.... The perception is that it was directed to the reads/viewers.
Komugis Nen Ability was a Question for a long time and the main-reason to doubt it's Enhancement was that 'enhacning somethig' doesnt really make sense for Intellect if you remember what Intellect is. But nah, it's Enhancement, so i gues one can just 'Enhance Concepts'. Man, wonder if Togashi plans to ever tell us Basics like WHAT can be enhanced
While I also agree with your logic on Pariston and it is hard to read. The fact that Netero elected him vice as well as Paristons upcoming appearances after and during the Netero power level conversations convinces me that he slots in the 5
Nen talent effects your growth in nen as was shown with Gon, Killua, and Zushi. Zushi started training in nen before them, but they mastered it before zushi because of their greater talent Ging is said to be one of the greatest nen users with a talent of one in a billion and combined with the fact that he started training in nen at a young age of 11 as resulted in extraordinary aura quantity let alone nen abilities.
I need to peep this series soon.
I feel like paristons ability has a low offensuve output, but is either extremely versatile (think bungee gum), or an ability that responds to what he encounters in battle effectively enough to make him near unkillable
Komugis Nen Ability was a Question for a long time and the main-reason to doubt it's Enhancement was that 'enhacning somethig' doesnt really make sense for Intellect if you remember what Intellect is. But nah, it's Enhancement, so i gues one can just 'Enhance Concepts'. Man, wonder if Togashi plans to ever tell us Basics like WHAT can be enhanced
You know I just thought about it, and Ging's personality actually does kind've match up with that of an enhancer pretty well, albeit an exceptionally intelligent one
Well simple doesn't necessarily mean Stupid. Ging knows what he wants and doesn't waste time with essentialism or thinking too hard about personal stuff.
Plus he's very selfish.
I wonder if Pariston fullfilled his “sparring” qualification in a mental sense. He isn’t strong, but he can spar with Netero mentally.
This is pretty much a perfect list IMO. Based on the evidence we have, I can't argue anything else.
However if we're open to speculation, I'd nominate Ging's friends for the list, specifically the ones that he made Greed Island with (nobody in particular, just saying one or more of his friends could fall within the top 5). All of the cards in the game are clearly the result of some form of nen. Some of them have insane abilities, like Angel's Breath, that would indicate an extremely high level of nen mastery. Kinda falls apart if Ging himself made the cards but I don't think that's the case since he asks one of the entry/exit twins to program the card for him.
Have you come across the theory that Marione is actually Pariston’s puppet? Kind of makes sense, considering Pariston’s nen affinity could well be Manipulation. Also, it would make Pariston the strongest member of the Dark Continent Expedition Team (excluding Beyond; and prior to Ging joining) - so that the hierarchy actually would be based of strength. Thus proving Ging’s assertion wrong.
I have a theory about Ging. And it's that he doesn't have a specialized Nen Technique, instead of restricting himself to a specific technique he honed his of Nen to be the one man with near mastery of all of the affinities. In which case he TECHNICALLY didn't lie to Pariston when he said "Copying other Nen techniques isn't my ability, I can just kinda do that" because it's not his ability, he doesn't have one, he CAN just kinda do that, and this is the kind if messing with people I can see absolutely see Ging pulling
Interesting 😂
Yeah, I wouldn't consider the HxH Databook very reliable (there is quite the decent and/or high chance Togashi didn't even make them, stuff can change/creators can change minds, and/or the manga/anima can just show differently). Including what u mentioned that ranked Nen users. Some stuff has just been proven wrong too.
Don't get me wrong, they can be fun and cool to use, and I can still like them as a source of info, and use it as well. But I don't consider them all too reliable and/or accurate, and I wouldn't base stuff too heavily on them. Like power-levels/power-scaling.
Saying all that; this was still a fun video! Thank you for all ur wonderful content. Ur HxH content as basically always, is great!
To put shortly: In a world where men die very young, fear the old man
10:55 & I believe he's on the dark continent right now & when the black whale one arrives I think they will run into him still mapping everything out... I also think he made it over 300 years because of some life extending resource he found on the dark continent
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I don't think it was a Togashi oversight between Zeno and Chrollo. Zeno is absurdly cautious. I'd hedge my bets he could go all out against Netero for 2 reasons: Netero is strong enough that Zeno can't kill him, and Netero is friendly/disciplined/skilled enough to not kill Zeno.
By the gods those sparring matches must have been awesome. Nen Dragons vs Nen Buddha, yes please.
I think Silva Zoldyck is most underrated, since he is the head of the Zoldyck family. There would only be a few I could imagine to survive, if they would be a target of the possibly strongest assassin.
Isnt Zeno Zoldics like main thing big attacks? he makes a nen dragon and a shower of nen arrows that are pretty strong. He was probably only fighting Chrolo with basic nen usage because one of his major rules is: If its not the job I wont kill them hence he couldnt just blow up the building to kill chrolo out of professional pride
One of the reasons I love Hunter Hunter is because all it takes is one mistake even if your stronger and how abilities can make or break situations Meruem could have been delt with in a better fashion if Pariston choose to give them the resources I do love good what ifs especially when the chosen path is a great one
Meruem power was of the charts though. Abilities do matter a lot, but a huge difference makes it harder.Since post Nuke could probably kill them before they even use the ability.
the bobble head shaking made me so anxious
I think Zeno, when fighting chrolo, wasn't judging him based solely on power but overall combat prowess, tactics and abilities.
he didn’t say more powerful he said more proficient than him & he’s known to underrate himself a lot
Best hunterXhunter content and always insightful.
The way you talk is beautiful
Zeno, bascally said that Chrollo isn't giving his best considering it is a 2 vs 1.
and mind you, chrollo is the floor master and the world knows phantom troupe a "grade A" bounty which means that most of hunters job includes subjugating the troupe
ofcourse Netero would know chrollo and would consider him as 1 of the 5 strongest
The powerscaling with Zeno never made sense
Hisoka wants to fight stronger opponents and is an Equal to Chrollo aaaand Hisoka
never showedIntertt in fighting Zeno
We gonna talk about how in the first 3 seconds bisky has a whole package??
“Maha” is the Zoldeik equivalent of “Meemaw”
Could have sworn you did this video topic before.
Bialy being in the top 5 seems weird considering she’s the one who brought up the concept in the first place and definitely didn’t seem to suggest she was included on that list herself. I’d say Silva. I mean the man has some gigantic balls.
I love how these rankings always devolve into people we've never even seen fight lmao
Well they kinda have to
@Amilcar Safeca Should always be only characters we've seen fight imo
Because it's a direct quote from Netero and almost everyone who's plausible can't be someone we've already seen fight... Netero has a history we never saw, so of course his list is of people we haven't seen fight (yet). 🤨
@@jdddyyy1 But it cant, because characters that are canonically stronger havent fought yet for the most part. Cant disregard canon facts
@Amilcar Safeca Yeah that's what I mean. I love HxH content, too, but I just like tier lists of characters we've seen. I hate lists people make of characters that haven't fought yet