I have to say, "Tentatodd" is one of the most Silver Age things I've ever seen in the more modern comics. Like seriously, the hero just turns into an alien tentacle monster for 24-hours and then it just wears off and no one ever talks about it again? That is classic Superman Red Kryptonite shenanigans right there!
I remember this story too well, but for completely different reasons. The moment when Jason is hallucinating and telling Dick that he is scared stuck with me. That this was after Under the Red Hood and that there was so much left unsaid between them. It makes me think about their dynamic as brothers and their histories. Of Dick feeling like he never got the chance to be a proper big brother to Jason because he was fighting with Bruce at the time. And Jason always looking up to Dick but always being seen as just a replacement. This story could have focused on their relantionship and how they viewed each other after Jason's resurrection. Dick wanting to finally be there for Jason and Jason wanting the comfort of his family. But this story was all over the place, with characters and ideas. The storyline before this, (I think memory is not perfect), is a flashback to Dick getting fired and becoming Nightwing. That was also a crazy story. Nightwing around Infinite Crisis was really all over the place.
An interesting angle they could've taken for why Jason became nightwing would just be to troll and hangout with Dick... They could've explored the whole sibling dynamic of the younger brother annoying the older brother just to hang out with him in a superhero fashion If DC wanted a place for Jason they could've just made him a full on menace to the DC universe like Deadpool or Loki... Especially Loki were he's sometimes a villian sometimes a good guy just causing problems on both sides
1)Probably just one of those things you expect to happen in the hero business 2)He did die and come back to life, so who knows how that effects your mind.
The whole "original" concept of OYL that DiDio posted recently is just wild. Besides Jason as Nightwing (and Dick being dead), you had Cassandra Cain sacrificing her life to resurrect Stephanie Brown, and Conner Kent embracing his Lex Luthor side. Like, WTF?! Oracle running Checkmate sign me up on that though.
@@tomorrow4eva I'm pretty sure she's not involved with Checkmate as of now. Or at least she wasn't as of the Checkmate limited series they did last year. The last I heard of Waller, she went to Earth 3 as part of some scheme or another.
I'm not going to pretend I've researched this opinion, but I wish Jason Todd as a character had...a character. An agreed-upon set of traits that makes it feel like you can tell whether the way he acts in a specific storyline is in-character or not. I'm not claiming to know the perfect characterization of Jason, but that's kinda my point. It seems like there are some writers who have a firm and complex sense of who they think Jason is and then other writers just go "idk he's angry, violent, and died before, so slot him into whatever needs craziness and killing", especially considering how often his character is brought 'back to basics'. I'd argue his character seems more consistent across the extremely broad range of fanfiction writers than it is among the DC-appointed writers of comics involving him, which is wild. It's a shame. He would be really compelling if the default for writers without a clear vision for him wasn't just "lol killing and chaos go brrr".
Straight up, the setup for a good Dick & Jason story was right there. All you needed to do was keep things focused on the two of them, show their different styles of crime fighting, how effective or not each take is, the public opinion on each, DROP JACOB ALL TOGETHER, and have them team up to fight the Pierce brothers at the end. They need to remake this story somehow because it has the potential to be a great one off. Maybe adapt into an animated movie with a lot of changes.
Does anyone else find it annoying that, despite clearly being in the same age group as or slightly older than Tim Drake (who debuted a year or so after his death), since being revived, Jason’s been portrayed as either in Dick and Barbara’s age ranges or slightly younger. Realistically, he should still be a teenager, but I guess Red Hood’s not very threatening as a teenage anti-hero.
This was such a weird time in comics. The One Year Later Outsiders also read really weird because the Nightwing in that title was clearly supposed to be Jason, but they changed their minds last minute and just switched the names back so you had oddities like Dick as Nightwing threatening Superman with kryptonite.
I clicked on this out of the notifications tab without looking at the thumbnail. And what the actual fuck is happening? Tentatodd? What the blue happy hell is happening?
I've watched this three times and I still don't know how I feel about Tentatodd. I'm equal parts horrified, confused, intrigued, and wanting to kill it with fire.
I would like to see a comic with them both teaming up to be Nightwing, in a way to keep their identities secret and support each other. Something like what they did with Crimson Fox.
The reasoning for killing Dick in Infinite Crisis is just bizarre. DC just has to accept that Batman has to be at least in his early 40s at this point. It's not the end of the world and the fans know it anyway. Also, killing Nightwing to bring Batman and Superman together is very disrespectful imo. Nightwing is his own hero. It's similar with Ric. They shot Nightwing in the head - derailing his comic for almost two years - so Bruce could feel some man pain for 3 issues. It's annoying for someone who likes Batman but will always be more of a Nightwing-fan.
I always ignored the aging because.. who cares? I think Scott snyder solved the problem in endgame but dumping him in that not a Lazarus pit. Which he stole from a batman beyond. episode.
not correct. even if we take the shortest time-spans for the important events Bruce would now need to be, at least, between 49-51 years old. It's almost like the story would need to move on from Bruce in the cowl, but naaaaaaah, lets reboot 100 times again before we do the logical choice.
4:50 Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but Jason here is practically 1 step away from changing his name and asking everybody to call him Rick.
Damn. Everything does come full circle. This is one of the first comics I ever read as a kid, and never was able to find it again. I still remember this like 15 years later. And I'm deep down the comics rabbit hole now lol.
Honestly the pre new 52 era for Jason is probably his most interesting. After UTRH they didnt really know what to do with him. So here's an era where they're doing anything and everything with him. From red hood and scatlet, to the green arrow appearances and now this. I get why a lot of this was retconned away with new 52 but still a neat bit of history for the character
This is 1 of those stories that people bring up when they ask "Why is Jason considered part of the bat family? Remember when he did this" I understand. Yeah, they kind of toned it down, Since back then, I think DC was trying to play up that the lazuras pit was responsible since it makes you crazy. Also, more fans like bat bros together than they do apart. Plus, we live in the age of the anti-hero, where Robins who walked the grey line like Redhood and Damian are definitely more popular than genuine good boys like Nightwing and Tim Drake. BATFAM 4 LIFE
The beautiful thing about a bigger Batfam is that there are more people for a reader to connect with. If one doesn't resonate, another one probably will.
Did they ever retcon the whole “Jason had an affair with Talia post-resurrection” thing? It’s kinda gross to think he’s technically his brother’s (Damian) stepdad.
Which means he also banged his adoptive father's baby momma. 😂 Between that and Bruce hooking up with Barbara (who's Dick's ex/girlfriend), the Bat-family tree is turning into a Christmas wreath. 😅
@@hope-cat4894 Brucebabs really only happened in the Timm-verse and thankfully has no bearing on canon/MU comics. hopefully we can all forget about both within time
I've read every Nightwing solo issue and I think this is the worst run of them all. The Dick&Jason-relationship could have been interesting but it was so badly and bizarrely executed. I sympathize with the creative team though because they must have reworked that story idea pretty late when Dick didn't end up dying in Infinite Crisis (thank God).
I know I read this when it came out. I know I threw my copies of the issues into the recycling bin not long after. I couldn't remember why. Now I think I know. Love that wig. The length of it is really quite eye catching.
I remember Tentatodd bc my friend who knew I had a crush on Jason once gave me this comic as a gift. She even left a note on the last page jokingly asking "Would you still let him hit it?"
This just makes me think, "yeah, sharing a crime fighting persona every other night sounds way healthier!" Just another example of plot complications actually being good.
You know, it would be interesting if Jason had his original red hair color back in addition to having him just hanging out with Dick and Tim. It would be interesting just to see more of their sibling dynamic. Plus, it would be neat to see a former sidekick without black hair (and yes I know Stephanie Brown is an exception, but she's mentioned less than Tim).
"One Year Later" is a helluva rollercoaster ride of amazing stories to WTH?! You have this, Wonder Woman, Robin, and Hawkgirl's stories are all memorable for their awful stories. Then you have Superman, Green Lantern, and Birds of Prey which were stellar restarts or interesting premises.
Another great summary. Fun and clever as always! I would love it if you could create a video featuring Lady Nightwing. She seems like a complementary character in the world of Batgirl of Burnside. I personally would have loved to see this arc play out while Bruce Wayne was lost in time and Dick and Damien became Batman and Robin. After losing the Battle of the Cowls Jason decides not to be Red Hood or Batman and settles to become the new Nightwing. When Bruce returns, there could be this battle of the two Nightwings, while still dramatizing that these former Robins have a fondness for each other. A less violent Red Hood could return tentatively to the Bat family having gone through his prodigal son phase of vigilantism.
When I first read about I instantly thought of Tetsuo’s mutation into a giant blob at the end of Akira, thinking that was probably the main inspiration behind it.
I remember seeing "Tentatodd" in an issue of Wizard Magazine at the time; it was bizarre then and it's bizarre now. Wrapping up the storyline with a telegram (do people even use those anymore?) was even more bizarre. And yes, more if Lady Nightwing, please. [Video was at 16:45 when I made this comment: I don't know why UA-cam added this feature lol]
I'm really glad I missed this entire storyline and that no one tries to reintroduce it. It's like, since Didio couldn't kill Nightwing in the DC Universe, he was going to kill the book's sales.
I read this run for the 1st time about a month ago and i just had a permanent confused look on my face the entire time. Also i have to say I love this look for your hair its super cute.
Tentatodd has been a monster for only 5 minutes and he's already eating people. Because when Jason Todd sees a slippery slope, he pulls out his Krazy Karpet.
A Jason Todd vs Dick Grayson fight is interesting but this story did not focus on that well but at least it had some Jason Todd vore/throat goat moments so that's something lol
Regarding the liquid Jason was submerged in: Many, many years ago, I saw a TV science show which demonstrated a liquid that was breathable! They dunked a white mouse into the beaker and it didn't drown! Wild!
7:00 Jacob reminds me of the psychic from the Gruenwald run of Captain America, the one Zemo hired to find the Bloodstones to resurrect his father, and who Crossbones (Who had spied on this adventure) hired to find Red Skull after Magneto buried him alive.
Seems to me the story would have had more gravitas if they'd gone for the "fractured-mirror" trope. Kinda like, Jason just returned to life and he hasn't fully pieced himself back together yet. His history with Dick would have made an excellent latching-point plotwise. And no Tentatodd (ew!). I mean, it was amusing, but it didn't progress the story in any meaningful way. Favorite Robin? Damian! (because... well, because DAMIAN!) 😜🤣
Is that a "note" or a telegram she's reading? Why all the stops? That's how a telegram would be read. Telegrams also had holes on both sides (at least some did), but most notebook paper only has holes on the left side. Interestingly, this arc began to be published in May, 2006, and Western Union had just sent its last telegram at the end of January, just over two months prior. It made the news. If that is indeed a telegram, I wonder if the writer read the news story and placed it in the story as an homage? In any case, I really enjoyed the video! Thanks for another fun ride!
Great video as always!! I've been trying to get into comics lately, and this channel and community seem really friendly!! Do you guys have any recs on good batsibilings stories for me to read?
I remember having issue 122 when I was a kid. I didn't know much about Nightwing at the time and this story just came at me so weirdly that I never really knew what to do with it. I'd be interested in seeing an analysis about Raptor and Bride & Groom (forget the issue, but it's the one where Dick's buried alive).
Wait, so he didn't just want to kill Nightwing, he wanted to put him in a refrigerator? Boo. They lack creativity if the only way they can solve Batman and Superman's relationship issues is to kill someone.
Oh no... I sense a new Playlist... for superhero or villain themed fashion or art shows... or even collection displays (other than the Flash, of course).
And now there are too many Krpytonians again. We have Connor Kent, Jon Kent, Supergirl, the two twins from Kandor, Steel, Cyborg Superman, Eradicator, Superwoman, Matrix Supergirl, Linda Danvers Supergirl and Natasha Irons as Steel 2 plus General Zod, Doomsday, Bizarro Superman and Bizarro Superboy.
🤨MEH!!! The story is just out there…far out there …convoluted…weird. Also am I the only one who thinks Cheyenne is a poor man’s Babs , & that Doc Clancy looks just like Dick’s first land lord & potential love interest from Bluhaven the Asian lady with the Scottish accent also named Clancy ? …Anyway Keep Up The Outstanding Work Sasha 🖖🏾
You were talking about Jason’s place at the start. Imo I think he works as a villain pretty well in his initial “under the hood” arc but if he just stayed dead after that, I think that would have been better. Aside from being edgy and having trauma, he doesn’t really bring a lot to the table I feel. He works better as a permanent reminder of Batman’s failures.
But what was Batman's failure? To me, it was failing to listen and connect as Jason's father figure. If Jason had felt secure and that he could trust Bruce, he would have come to him with the information about a birth mother instead of running off. Instead, Bruce seems to twist it into "I didn't teach him not to be reckless". So leaving Jason dead means Bruce never has to confront his ego-centric view of what happened. It also leaves Bruce open to making the same mistake with other people he mentors/adopts. Jason being alive again provides a great opportunity to question the stories Bruce tells himself and others. Batman, the logical thinker, is not a reliable narrator. Of course DC is squandering this. I have not seen any stories where Batman/Bruce asks Jason what happened. Instead the comics are written as though Batman's experience is objective truth. There is a great opportunity here for Bruce to grow as a character, learning to listen more and to check in with his family members and let them know that he appreciates and trusts them.
I just wish someone would do something actually interesting with Jason Todd again. Like, he’s been stuck in this endless loop of anti-hero to anti-villain for the past ten years and it’s gotten exhausting at this point. If you ask me, I think he should leave Gotham and go on a crime-fighting road trip - he can still be on good terms with the Batfamily, but he needs to spend some time away from them and carve out his own identity, in my opinion.
This is exactly what happened in the rebirth run of Red-Hood & the Outlaws, with Jason forming a team with Artemis and a Bizarro. Really good series, and yes, it also dealt with jasons and Dicks relationship as brothers. But yeah, everything went up in flames once Didio returned, because of course it did
@@EnerKaizer I heard about that series, and while I do like the concept, it just got wayyyyyy too bogged down in editorial bullshit for its own good (plus the writer turned out to be a total creep, so that's also pretty bad).
I wish they would use his training with Ducra and let him hunt supernatural problems. He gets to be really violent but he's still 'good'. Bruce hates it because he hates magic and doesn't want Jason involved with it. Jason could even dabble in being on the roster for Justice League Dark. Jason, the magic Bat. He even has the waking up after being dead for six months for an unknown (in universe) reason to add to his mystique.
Okay... my better way to do it is not have Nightwing DIE in Infinite Crisis but either be left comatose or Nightwing (and maybe Superboy with him) going full on Quinn Mallory from Sliders exploring the new limited multiverse. Maybe make that a new book called... I don't know... World's Finest. I like the second idea better for well... reasons. It is seeing what Dick did to save everyone that makes Jason want to abandon the Red Hood. He wants to redeem himself but doesn't know how... until through either Superboy-Prime time burps or Order of Saint Dumas/Rhas Al Ghul shenagains, he meets ANOTHER pretender to the Nightwing mantle, who is eventually revealed to be Jean-Paul Valley. He took the name Nightwing to try to shake off the stigma of the Azrael name. Jean-Paul tells him, there is only one last step he must take to earn his own redemption. Batman believed in him even when no one else did. Jason is EXACTLY where Jean-Paul was emotionally at the end of the Azbat mess. So he says: 'I am going to take the same chance on you that Bruce did on me. I''ll even embrace my demons by becoming the burning angel again. But if you screw up again, I'll take it back.' So they fight crime together... until Dick returns. (He'd get separated from Superboy somehow.... maybe he gets Kryptonite poisoning or something, so he winds up with one of the three Legions again and gets returned home that way.
Favourite Robin and why??
Jarro the Star Wonder, because the image of batman hugging an alien starfish is funny.
The og dick Grayson nuff said and can you do the comic history of the white canary and how she is different from the arrowverse
Damian or Duke, and it's 100 percent when i came into comics. Because i love every Robin for different reasons
Richard "D*ck" Grayson. Why? Not sure.
Jason Todd, because it was like Punisher + Winter Soldier + Batman
I have to say, "Tentatodd" is one of the most Silver Age things I've ever seen in the more modern comics. Like seriously, the hero just turns into an alien tentacle monster for 24-hours and then it just wears off and no one ever talks about it again? That is classic Superman Red Kryptonite shenanigans right there!
And how Jason just rolls with it. Not upset in the slightest. Ha ha! Behold, the powers you accidentally gave me that I will now use to defeat you!
I was going to type something something like this but you said it for me.
Lmaoo yaaa
Tentatodd was not Tentacool, he was Tentacruel.
😆
Breh
Dick: "Stop taking my identities!!!"
Jason: "I thought you were dead!"
Dick: "That's not an excuse!!"
Ironic!
I feel like everyone in this comic is WAY TOO CALM about what happened to Jason, especially Jason himself.
"Eh, I've been dead."
Ladies and gentlemen, we are experiencing tentacle difficulties...
I'm surprised they haven't revisited a story of "Jason becoming Nightwing" , especially during the Spiral, or (shudders) Ric Grayson era.
Bruce: I feel like i should ground you.
Dick: Bruce, I'm twenty-six!
Jason: And I've been punished enough.
I remember this story too well, but for completely different reasons. The moment when Jason is hallucinating and telling Dick that he is scared stuck with me. That this was after Under the Red Hood and that there was so much left unsaid between them. It makes me think about their dynamic as brothers and their histories. Of Dick feeling like he never got the chance to be a proper big brother to Jason because he was fighting with Bruce at the time. And Jason always looking up to Dick but always being seen as just a replacement.
This story could have focused on their relantionship and how they viewed each other after Jason's resurrection. Dick wanting to finally be there for Jason and Jason wanting the comfort of his family. But this story was all over the place, with characters and ideas.
The storyline before this, (I think memory is not perfect), is a flashback to Dick getting fired and becoming Nightwing. That was also a crazy story. Nightwing around Infinite Crisis was really all over the place.
This is a piece of Jason Todd lore that is forever seared into my brain now.
An interesting angle they could've taken for why Jason became nightwing would just be to troll and hangout with Dick... They could've explored the whole sibling dynamic of the younger brother annoying the older brother just to hang out with him in a superhero fashion
If DC wanted a place for Jason they could've just made him a full on menace to the DC universe like Deadpool or Loki... Especially Loki were he's sometimes a villian sometimes a good guy just causing problems on both sides
Being an annoying younger brother seems on-brand for Jason.
How is Jason not shocked or terrified at all at the fact he can turn into grotesque body horror?!?!?!
1)Probably just one of those things you expect to happen in the hero business
2)He did die and come back to life, so who knows how that effects your mind.
“Eh? I just roll with it. The stories I heard from Jimmy Olsen make this look like a walk in the park.” Jason
He’s just generally nuts I guess
"Bruce adopted a starfish alien. Once that enters your life good luck surprising me. I just hope this time I don't grow teeth out my butt next time."
The whole "original" concept of OYL that DiDio posted recently is just wild. Besides Jason as Nightwing (and Dick being dead), you had Cassandra Cain sacrificing her life to resurrect Stephanie Brown, and Conner Kent embracing his Lex Luthor side. Like, WTF?! Oracle running Checkmate sign me up on that though.
It's nothing compared to the scrapped 5G plans.
Is Waller still involved in Checkmate? Because Waller and Oracle "working" together would be so awesome.
@@tomorrow4eva I'm pretty sure she's not involved with Checkmate as of now. Or at least she wasn't as of the Checkmate limited series they did last year.
The last I heard of Waller, she went to Earth 3 as part of some scheme or another.
Awww Cass sacrificing herself to save her girlfriend? Sweet
Seriously though wtf
It's really amazing how Todd knows the transformation is only temporary. Where did he get his Mad Scientist doctorate, PU?
I'm not going to pretend I've researched this opinion, but I wish Jason Todd as a character had...a character. An agreed-upon set of traits that makes it feel like you can tell whether the way he acts in a specific storyline is in-character or not. I'm not claiming to know the perfect characterization of Jason, but that's kinda my point. It seems like there are some writers who have a firm and complex sense of who they think Jason is and then other writers just go "idk he's angry, violent, and died before, so slot him into whatever needs craziness and killing", especially considering how often his character is brought 'back to basics'. I'd argue his character seems more consistent across the extremely broad range of fanfiction writers than it is among the DC-appointed writers of comics involving him, which is wild. It's a shame. He would be really compelling if the default for writers without a clear vision for him wasn't just "lol killing and chaos go brrr".
Straight up, the setup for a good Dick & Jason story was right there. All you needed to do was keep things focused on the two of them, show their different styles of crime fighting, how effective or not each take is, the public opinion on each, DROP JACOB ALL TOGETHER, and have them team up to fight the Pierce brothers at the end. They need to remake this story somehow because it has the potential to be a great one off. Maybe adapt into an animated movie with a lot of changes.
And get rid of all the secret identity spoilers. I'm sure Bruce sneezes every time one of his kids calls another by real name when in a costume.
Does anyone else find it annoying that, despite clearly being in the same age group as or slightly older than Tim Drake (who debuted a year or so after his death), since being revived, Jason’s been portrayed as either in Dick and Barbara’s age ranges or slightly younger. Realistically, he should still be a teenager, but I guess Red Hood’s not very threatening as a teenage anti-hero.
I've personally always read it more as Jason at 23ish and Dick and Barbara at 29 or so. 25 and 32 when they have been allowed to age for a bit.
The name Nightwingers is more then enough of a reason to say no.
This was such a weird time in comics. The One Year Later Outsiders also read really weird because the Nightwing in that title was clearly supposed to be Jason, but they changed their minds last minute and just switched the names back so you had oddities like Dick as Nightwing threatening Superman with kryptonite.
I clicked on this out of the notifications tab without looking at the thumbnail. And what the actual fuck is happening? Tentatodd? What the blue happy hell is happening?
I've watched this three times and I still don't know how I feel about Tentatodd. I'm equal parts horrified, confused, intrigued, and wanting to kill it with fire.
I would like to see a comic with them both teaming up to be Nightwing, in a way to keep their identities secret and support each other. Something like what they did with Crimson Fox.
For some reason this reminds me of when Frank Castle became his own twisted version of Captain America to honor Steve Rogers lol
Finally! I've been wait for this! The drama, the tension, the nonsense!!!
I somehow forgot this lol. I remember Jason being Nightwing but I completely forgot the tentacle monster part.
I read this years ago and I did not need to remember. The first signs of Nightwing getting that editorial shaft along with Jason lol.
...what the actual Hell, DC?!?!
The reasoning for killing Dick in Infinite Crisis is just bizarre. DC just has to accept that Batman has to be at least in his early 40s at this point. It's not the end of the world and the fans know it anyway. Also, killing Nightwing to bring Batman and Superman together is very disrespectful imo. Nightwing is his own hero. It's similar with Ric. They shot Nightwing in the head - derailing his comic for almost two years - so Bruce could feel some man pain for 3 issues. It's annoying for someone who likes Batman but will always be more of a Nightwing-fan.
I always ignored the aging because.. who cares? I think Scott snyder solved the problem in endgame but dumping him in that not a Lazarus pit. Which he stole from a batman beyond. episode.
not correct. even if we take the shortest time-spans for the important events Bruce would now need to be, at least, between 49-51 years old.
It's almost like the story would need to move on from Bruce in the cowl, but naaaaaaah, lets reboot 100 times again before we do the logical choice.
Jason could have become the new host of the Ultra-Humanite.
Yes.
4:50 Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but Jason here is practically 1 step away from changing his name and asking everybody to call him Rick.
Can't wait for this to be brought up in banter between these two bros like Jason's death was that one time.
Damn. Everything does come full circle. This is one of the first comics I ever read as a kid, and never was able to find it again. I still remember this like 15 years later. And I'm deep down the comics rabbit hole now lol.
Honestly the pre new 52 era for Jason is probably his most interesting. After UTRH they didnt really know what to do with him. So here's an era where they're doing anything and everything with him. From red hood and scatlet, to the green arrow appearances and now this.
I get why a lot of this was retconned away with new 52 but still a neat bit of history for the character
This is 1 of those stories that people bring up when they ask "Why is Jason considered part of the bat family? Remember when he did this"
I understand. Yeah, they kind of toned it down, Since back then, I think DC was trying to play up that the lazuras pit was responsible since it makes you crazy.
Also, more fans like bat bros together than they do apart.
Plus, we live in the age of the anti-hero, where Robins who walked the grey line like Redhood and Damian are definitely more popular than genuine good boys like Nightwing and Tim Drake.
BATFAM 4 LIFE
The beautiful thing about a bigger Batfam is that there are more people for a reader to connect with. If one doesn't resonate, another one probably will.
Just like any family, you get the black sheep, Jason just happens to be that to the Bat Fam!
I shouldn’t be surprised by this. I shouldn’t be surprised by anything anymore.
But I am. Very much so. WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE
Did they ever retcon the whole “Jason had an affair with Talia post-resurrection” thing? It’s kinda gross to think he’s technically his brother’s (Damian) stepdad.
Which means he also banged his adoptive father's baby momma. 😂 Between that and Bruce hooking up with Barbara (who's Dick's ex/girlfriend), the Bat-family tree is turning into a Christmas wreath. 😅
Yeah that plot...lol whyyyy
@@CasuallyComics 🤣
Yeah… just .. “ewwwwww!”🤣
@@hope-cat4894 Brucebabs really only happened in the Timm-verse and thankfully has no bearing on canon/MU comics. hopefully we can all forget about both within time
I've read every Nightwing solo issue and I think this is the worst run of them all. The Dick&Jason-relationship could have been interesting but it was so badly and bizarrely executed. I sympathize with the creative team though because they must have reworked that story idea pretty late when Dick didn't end up dying in Infinite Crisis (thank God).
I havent watched the video yet but
YOU HOW DARE YOU MAKE ME REMEMBER THIS
I know I read this when it came out. I know I threw my copies of the issues into the recycling bin not long after. I couldn't remember why. Now I think I know.
Love that wig. The length of it is really quite eye catching.
I remember this story. I read it for free in my college bookstore. It was not a good era for Nightwing.
never underestimate the importance of the 180 rule.
I remember Tentatodd bc my friend who knew I had a crush on Jason once gave me this comic as a gift. She even left a note on the last page jokingly asking "Would you still let him hit it?"
This was clearly an excuse for at least one of the people involved to get their fetishes published.
This just makes me think, "yeah, sharing a crime fighting persona every other night sounds way healthier!" Just another example of plot complications actually being good.
I.....uhhh....what?!
You know, it would be interesting if Jason had his original red hair color back in addition to having him just hanging out with Dick and Tim.
It would be interesting just to see more of their sibling dynamic. Plus, it would be neat to see a former sidekick without black hair (and yes I know Stephanie Brown is an exception, but she's mentioned less than Tim).
"One Year Later" is a helluva rollercoaster ride of amazing stories to WTH?! You have this, Wonder Woman, Robin, and Hawkgirl's stories are all memorable for their awful stories. Then you have Superman, Green Lantern, and Birds of Prey which were stellar restarts or interesting premises.
I'm glad you explained all of this. My head hurts too much from these types of stories. Great job.
I mean, if there is anyone who could emphathize with returning from the dead and finding someone had replaced you, it would be jason.
Just when I thought of more batbro review from you! ❤
That was disturbing. Monster Todd! And people give me a hard time because I love All Star Batman and Robin.
Another great summary. Fun and clever as always! I would love it if you could create a video featuring Lady Nightwing. She seems like a complementary character in the world of Batgirl of Burnside. I personally would have loved to see this arc play out while Bruce Wayne was lost in time and Dick and Damien became Batman and Robin. After losing the Battle of the Cowls Jason decides not to be Red Hood or Batman and settles to become the new Nightwing. When Bruce returns, there could be this battle of the two Nightwings, while still dramatizing that these former Robins have a fondness for each other. A less violent Red Hood could return tentatively to the Bat family having gone through his prodigal son phase of vigilantism.
Sounds like they smoked a doobie and said ,"It's a comic book, man"!!!!
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This was absolutely ridiculous. great video.
When I first read about I instantly thought of Tetsuo’s mutation into a giant blob at the end of Akira, thinking that was probably the main inspiration behind it.
I remember seeing "Tentatodd" in an issue of Wizard Magazine at the time; it was bizarre then and it's bizarre now. Wrapping up the storyline with a telegram (do people even use those anymore?) was even more bizarre. And yes, more if Lady Nightwing, please.
[Video was at 16:45 when I made this comment: I don't know why UA-cam added this feature lol]
Happy Batman Day 2023! We lurve you Sasha!
Welp. That's definitely more disturbing and random than the time Jean Grey got tentacles for arms because reasons.
I'm really glad I missed this entire storyline and that no one tries to reintroduce it. It's like, since Didio couldn't kill Nightwing in the DC Universe, he was going to kill the book's sales.
Hot.
I mean uhhh
I read this run for the 1st time about a month ago and i just had a permanent confused look on my face the entire time.
Also i have to say I love this look for your hair its super cute.
I like this. Thank you
the psychiatrist Dick talks to is Bridgette Clancy, his landlady during the Dixon run!
She returned in Taylor's Nightwing run
Tentatodd has been a monster for only 5 minutes and he's already eating people. Because when Jason Todd sees a slippery slope, he pulls out his Krazy Karpet.
A Jason Todd vs Dick Grayson fight is interesting but this story did not focus on that well but at least it had some Jason Todd vore/throat goat moments so that's something lol
Regarding the liquid Jason was submerged in: Many, many years ago, I saw a TV science show which demonstrated a liquid that was breathable! They dunked a white mouse into the beaker and it didn't drown! Wild!
7:00 Jacob reminds me of the psychic from the Gruenwald run of Captain America, the one Zemo hired to find the Bloodstones to resurrect his father, and who Crossbones (Who had spied on this adventure) hired to find Red Skull after Magneto buried him alive.
The “GLUP” sound effect cracks me up for some reason.
Seems to me the story would have had more gravitas if they'd gone for the "fractured-mirror" trope. Kinda like, Jason just returned to life and he hasn't fully pieced himself back together yet. His history with Dick would have made an excellent latching-point plotwise. And no Tentatodd (ew!). I mean, it was amusing, but it didn't progress the story in any meaningful way.
Favorite Robin? Damian!
(because... well, because DAMIAN!) 😜🤣
Sasha, there's a lot that I've seen that I'm happy to remember, but Tentatodd is something I wish I never saw.
Just wanna say I enjoy this wig. Probably my second favorite behind the rainbow hime cut
Is that a "note" or a telegram she's reading? Why all the stops? That's how a telegram would be read. Telegrams also had holes on both sides (at least some did), but most notebook paper only has holes on the left side. Interestingly, this arc began to be published in May, 2006, and Western Union had just sent its last telegram at the end of January, just over two months prior. It made the news. If that is indeed a telegram, I wonder if the writer read the news story and placed it in the story as an homage? In any case, I really enjoyed the video! Thanks for another fun ride!
Where's is Alfred to call them both on how super mature they are behaving on this series?
Great video as always!! I've been trying to get into comics lately, and this channel and community seem really friendly!! Do you guys have any recs on good batsibilings stories for me to read?
I like Nightwing Year 1.
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Ohh it looks interesting, I'll look into it ;D thanks!!
Whys Jason so chill about it and so quickly adjusts to the ability😆 the most silver age ass thing ever
I haven't seen that reading a letter and saying STOP after every period since the 90s.
I actually own these issues and forgot about Jason Todd and the tentacles were in this.
I remember having issue 122 when I was a kid. I didn't know much about Nightwing at the time and this story just came at me so weirdly that I never really knew what to do with it. I'd be interested in seeing an analysis about Raptor and Bride & Groom (forget the issue, but it's the one where Dick's buried alive).
Wait, so he didn't just want to kill Nightwing, he wanted to put him in a refrigerator? Boo. They lack creativity if the only way they can solve Batman and Superman's relationship issues is to kill someone.
Not enough people know about the original Crisis on Infinite Earths sequel, Legends
"Tentatodd" is marginally better than "Toddickles."
Your wig and outfit give off serious X-Men Evolution Jean Grey energy.
I'm happy to know about TentaTodd.
Oh no... I sense a new Playlist... for superhero or villain themed fashion or art shows... or even collection displays (other than the Flash, of course).
Dick - Thor
Jason - Loki
And now there are too many Krpytonians again. We have Connor Kent, Jon Kent, Supergirl, the two twins from Kandor, Steel, Cyborg Superman, Eradicator, Superwoman, Matrix Supergirl, Linda Danvers Supergirl and Natasha Irons as Steel 2 plus General Zod, Doomsday, Bizarro Superman and Bizarro Superboy.
Do the comic history of the white canary and how she is different from the arrowverse
The writers barely disguised fetish? Got some wild stuff going on here alright.
WHAT. THE. HELL.
If I had a nickel for each time Jason was trapped inside an exploding building...
🤨MEH!!! The story is just out there…far out there …convoluted…weird. Also am I the only one who thinks Cheyenne is a poor man’s Babs , & that Doc Clancy looks just like Dick’s first land lord & potential love interest from Bluhaven the Asian lady with the Scottish accent also named Clancy ? …Anyway Keep Up The Outstanding Work Sasha 🖖🏾
You were talking about Jason’s place at the start. Imo I think he works as a villain pretty well in his initial “under the hood” arc but if he just stayed dead after that, I think that would have been better. Aside from being edgy and having trauma, he doesn’t really bring a lot to the table I feel. He works better as a permanent reminder of Batman’s failures.
But what was Batman's failure? To me, it was failing to listen and connect as Jason's father figure. If Jason had felt secure and that he could trust Bruce, he would have come to him with the information about a birth mother instead of running off. Instead, Bruce seems to twist it into "I didn't teach him not to be reckless". So leaving Jason dead means Bruce never has to confront his ego-centric view of what happened. It also leaves Bruce open to making the same mistake with other people he mentors/adopts. Jason being alive again provides a great opportunity to question the stories Bruce tells himself and others. Batman, the logical thinker, is not a reliable narrator.
Of course DC is squandering this. I have not seen any stories where Batman/Bruce asks Jason what happened. Instead the comics are written as though Batman's experience is objective truth. There is a great opportunity here for Bruce to grow as a character, learning to listen more and to check in with his family members and let them know that he appreciates and trusts them.
Dickster & The Nightwingers
The first panel of Tentatodd reminded me of the Darkness.
I just wish someone would do something actually interesting with Jason Todd again. Like, he’s been stuck in this endless loop of anti-hero to anti-villain for the past ten years and it’s gotten exhausting at this point. If you ask me, I think he should leave Gotham and go on a crime-fighting road trip - he can still be on good terms with the Batfamily, but he needs to spend some time away from them and carve out his own identity, in my opinion.
This is exactly what happened in the rebirth run of Red-Hood & the Outlaws, with Jason forming a team with Artemis and a Bizarro. Really good series, and yes, it also dealt with jasons and Dicks relationship as brothers. But yeah, everything went up in flames once Didio returned, because of course it did
@@EnerKaizer I heard about that series, and while I do like the concept, it just got wayyyyyy too bogged down in editorial bullshit for its own good (plus the writer turned out to be a total creep, so that's also pretty bad).
I wish they would use his training with Ducra and let him hunt supernatural problems. He gets to be really violent but he's still 'good'. Bruce hates it because he hates magic and doesn't want Jason involved with it. Jason could even dabble in being on the roster for Justice League Dark. Jason, the magic Bat. He even has the waking up after being dead for six months for an unknown (in universe) reason to add to his mystique.
Do Buffy
Okay... my better way to do it is not have Nightwing DIE in Infinite Crisis but either be left comatose or Nightwing (and maybe Superboy with him) going full on Quinn Mallory from Sliders exploring the new limited multiverse. Maybe make that a new book called... I don't know... World's Finest. I like the second idea better for well... reasons. It is seeing what Dick did to save everyone that makes Jason want to abandon the Red Hood. He wants to redeem himself but doesn't know how... until through either Superboy-Prime time burps or Order of Saint Dumas/Rhas Al Ghul shenagains, he meets ANOTHER pretender to the Nightwing mantle, who is eventually revealed to be Jean-Paul Valley. He took the name Nightwing to try to shake off the stigma of the Azrael name. Jean-Paul tells him, there is only one last step he must take to earn his own redemption. Batman believed in him even when no one else did. Jason is EXACTLY where Jean-Paul was emotionally at the end of the Azbat mess. So he says: 'I am going to take the same chance on you that Bruce did on me. I''ll even embrace my demons by becoming the burning angel again. But if you screw up again, I'll take it back.' So they fight crime together... until Dick returns. (He'd get separated from Superboy somehow.... maybe he gets Kryptonite poisoning or something, so he winds up with one of the three Legions again and gets returned home that way.
Wait, Jason Todd isn't a tentacle monster?! I just assumed he always was one.
Tentatodd is what happens when you read too much hentai
i want to forget this