I have to say, "Tentatodd" is one of the most Silver Age things I've ever seen in the more modern comics. Like seriously, the hero just turns into an alien tentacle monster for 24-hours and then it just wears off and no one ever talks about it again? That is classic Superman Red Kryptonite shenanigans right there!
I remember this story too well, but for completely different reasons. The moment when Jason is hallucinating and telling Dick that he is scared stuck with me. That this was after Under the Red Hood and that there was so much left unsaid between them. It makes me think about their dynamic as brothers and their histories. Of Dick feeling like he never got the chance to be a proper big brother to Jason because he was fighting with Bruce at the time. And Jason always looking up to Dick but always being seen as just a replacement. This story could have focused on their relantionship and how they viewed each other after Jason's resurrection. Dick wanting to finally be there for Jason and Jason wanting the comfort of his family. But this story was all over the place, with characters and ideas. The storyline before this, (I think memory is not perfect), is a flashback to Dick getting fired and becoming Nightwing. That was also a crazy story. Nightwing around Infinite Crisis was really all over the place.
The whole "original" concept of OYL that DiDio posted recently is just wild. Besides Jason as Nightwing (and Dick being dead), you had Cassandra Cain sacrificing her life to resurrect Stephanie Brown, and Conner Kent embracing his Lex Luthor side. Like, WTF?! Oracle running Checkmate sign me up on that though.
@@tomorrow4eva I'm pretty sure she's not involved with Checkmate as of now. Or at least she wasn't as of the Checkmate limited series they did last year. The last I heard of Waller, she went to Earth 3 as part of some scheme or another.
Does anyone else find it annoying that, despite clearly being in the same age group as or slightly older than Tim Drake (who debuted a year or so after his death), since being revived, Jason’s been portrayed as either in Dick and Barbara’s age ranges or slightly younger. Realistically, he should still be a teenager, but I guess Red Hood’s not very threatening as a teenage anti-hero.
An interesting angle they could've taken for why Jason became nightwing would just be to troll and hangout with Dick... They could've explored the whole sibling dynamic of the younger brother annoying the older brother just to hang out with him in a superhero fashion If DC wanted a place for Jason they could've just made him a full on menace to the DC universe like Deadpool or Loki... Especially Loki were he's sometimes a villian sometimes a good guy just causing problems on both sides
I'm not going to pretend I've researched this opinion, but I wish Jason Todd as a character had...a character. An agreed-upon set of traits that makes it feel like you can tell whether the way he acts in a specific storyline is in-character or not. I'm not claiming to know the perfect characterization of Jason, but that's kinda my point. It seems like there are some writers who have a firm and complex sense of who they think Jason is and then other writers just go "idk he's angry, violent, and died before, so slot him into whatever needs craziness and killing", especially considering how often his character is brought 'back to basics'. I'd argue his character seems more consistent across the extremely broad range of fanfiction writers than it is among the DC-appointed writers of comics involving him, which is wild. It's a shame. He would be really compelling if the default for writers without a clear vision for him wasn't just "lol killing and chaos go brrr".
1)Probably just one of those things you expect to happen in the hero business 2)He did die and come back to life, so who knows how that effects your mind.
Straight up, the setup for a good Dick & Jason story was right there. All you needed to do was keep things focused on the two of them, show their different styles of crime fighting, how effective or not each take is, the public opinion on each, DROP JACOB ALL TOGETHER, and have them team up to fight the Pierce brothers at the end. They need to remake this story somehow because it has the potential to be a great one off. Maybe adapt into an animated movie with a lot of changes.
4:50 Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but Jason here is practically 1 step away from changing his name and asking everybody to call him Rick.
This was such a weird time in comics. The One Year Later Outsiders also read really weird because the Nightwing in that title was clearly supposed to be Jason, but they changed their minds last minute and just switched the names back so you had oddities like Dick as Nightwing threatening Superman with kryptonite.
I would like to see a comic with them both teaming up to be Nightwing, in a way to keep their identities secret and support each other. Something like what they did with Crimson Fox.
I clicked on this out of the notifications tab without looking at the thumbnail. And what the actual fuck is happening? Tentatodd? What the blue happy hell is happening?
I've watched this three times and I still don't know how I feel about Tentatodd. I'm equal parts horrified, confused, intrigued, and wanting to kill it with fire.
I remember Tentatodd bc my friend who knew I had a crush on Jason once gave me this comic as a gift. She even left a note on the last page jokingly asking "Would you still let him hit it?"
Damn. Everything does come full circle. This is one of the first comics I ever read as a kid, and never was able to find it again. I still remember this like 15 years later. And I'm deep down the comics rabbit hole now lol.
You know, it would be interesting if Jason had his original red hair color back in addition to having him just hanging out with Dick and Tim. It would be interesting just to see more of their sibling dynamic. Plus, it would be neat to see a former sidekick without black hair (and yes I know Stephanie Brown is an exception, but she's mentioned less than Tim).
Honestly the pre new 52 era for Jason is probably his most interesting. After UTRH they didnt really know what to do with him. So here's an era where they're doing anything and everything with him. From red hood and scatlet, to the green arrow appearances and now this. I get why a lot of this was retconned away with new 52 but still a neat bit of history for the character
The reasoning for killing Dick in Infinite Crisis is just bizarre. DC just has to accept that Batman has to be at least in his early 40s at this point. It's not the end of the world and the fans know it anyway. Also, killing Nightwing to bring Batman and Superman together is very disrespectful imo. Nightwing is his own hero. It's similar with Ric. They shot Nightwing in the head - derailing his comic for almost two years - so Bruce could feel some man pain for 3 issues. It's annoying for someone who likes Batman but will always be more of a Nightwing-fan.
I always ignored the aging because.. who cares? I think Scott snyder solved the problem in endgame but dumping him in that not a Lazarus pit. Which he stole from a batman beyond. episode.
not correct. even if we take the shortest time-spans for the important events Bruce would now need to be, at least, between 49-51 years old. It's almost like the story would need to move on from Bruce in the cowl, but naaaaaaah, lets reboot 100 times again before we do the logical choice.
Did they ever retcon the whole “Jason had an affair with Talia post-resurrection” thing? It’s kinda gross to think he’s technically his brother’s (Damian) stepdad.
Which means he also banged his adoptive father's baby momma. 😂 Between that and Bruce hooking up with Barbara (who's Dick's ex/girlfriend), the Bat-family tree is turning into a Christmas wreath. 😅
@@hope-cat4894 Brucebabs really only happened in the Timm-verse and thankfully has no bearing on canon/MU comics. hopefully we can all forget about both within time
I know I read this when it came out. I know I threw my copies of the issues into the recycling bin not long after. I couldn't remember why. Now I think I know. Love that wig. The length of it is really quite eye catching.
Another great summary. Fun and clever as always! I would love it if you could create a video featuring Lady Nightwing. She seems like a complementary character in the world of Batgirl of Burnside. I personally would have loved to see this arc play out while Bruce Wayne was lost in time and Dick and Damien became Batman and Robin. After losing the Battle of the Cowls Jason decides not to be Red Hood or Batman and settles to become the new Nightwing. When Bruce returns, there could be this battle of the two Nightwings, while still dramatizing that these former Robins have a fondness for each other. A less violent Red Hood could return tentatively to the Bat family having gone through his prodigal son phase of vigilantism.
"One Year Later" is a helluva rollercoaster ride of amazing stories to WTH?! You have this, Wonder Woman, Robin, and Hawkgirl's stories are all memorable for their awful stories. Then you have Superman, Green Lantern, and Birds of Prey which were stellar restarts or interesting premises.
Tentatodd has been a monster for only 5 minutes and he's already eating people. Because when Jason Todd sees a slippery slope, he pulls out his Krazy Karpet.
This just makes me think, "yeah, sharing a crime fighting persona every other night sounds way healthier!" Just another example of plot complications actually being good.
I remember seeing "Tentatodd" in an issue of Wizard Magazine at the time; it was bizarre then and it's bizarre now. Wrapping up the storyline with a telegram (do people even use those anymore?) was even more bizarre. And yes, more if Lady Nightwing, please. [Video was at 16:45 when I made this comment: I don't know why UA-cam added this feature lol]
7:00 Jacob reminds me of the psychic from the Gruenwald run of Captain America, the one Zemo hired to find the Bloodstones to resurrect his father, and who Crossbones (Who had spied on this adventure) hired to find Red Skull after Magneto buried him alive.
This is 1 of those stories that people bring up when they ask "Why is Jason considered part of the bat family? Remember when he did this" I understand. Yeah, they kind of toned it down, Since back then, I think DC was trying to play up that the lazuras pit was responsible since it makes you crazy. Also, more fans like bat bros together than they do apart. Plus, we live in the age of the anti-hero, where Robins who walked the grey line like Redhood and Damian are definitely more popular than genuine good boys like Nightwing and Tim Drake. BATFAM 4 LIFE
The beautiful thing about a bigger Batfam is that there are more people for a reader to connect with. If one doesn't resonate, another one probably will.
I've read every Nightwing solo issue and I think this is the worst run of them all. The Dick&Jason-relationship could have been interesting but it was so badly and bizarrely executed. I sympathize with the creative team though because they must have reworked that story idea pretty late when Dick didn't end up dying in Infinite Crisis (thank God).
When I first read about I instantly thought of Tetsuo’s mutation into a giant blob at the end of Akira, thinking that was probably the main inspiration behind it.
Wait, so he didn't just want to kill Nightwing, he wanted to put him in a refrigerator? Boo. They lack creativity if the only way they can solve Batman and Superman's relationship issues is to kill someone.
I read this run for the 1st time about a month ago and i just had a permanent confused look on my face the entire time. Also i have to say I love this look for your hair its super cute.
Is that a "note" or a telegram she's reading? Why all the stops? That's how a telegram would be read. Telegrams also had holes on both sides (at least some did), but most notebook paper only has holes on the left side. Interestingly, this arc began to be published in May, 2006, and Western Union had just sent its last telegram at the end of January, just over two months prior. It made the news. If that is indeed a telegram, I wonder if the writer read the news story and placed it in the story as an homage? In any case, I really enjoyed the video! Thanks for another fun ride!
Regarding the liquid Jason was submerged in: Many, many years ago, I saw a TV science show which demonstrated a liquid that was breathable! They dunked a white mouse into the beaker and it didn't drown! Wild!
I remember having issue 122 when I was a kid. I didn't know much about Nightwing at the time and this story just came at me so weirdly that I never really knew what to do with it. I'd be interested in seeing an analysis about Raptor and Bride & Groom (forget the issue, but it's the one where Dick's buried alive).
Great video as always!! I've been trying to get into comics lately, and this channel and community seem really friendly!! Do you guys have any recs on good batsibilings stories for me to read?
Didn't they do this before? Or did it again? I don't remember the context as it has been years, but I distinctly remember seeing an issue where Jason Todd was dressed as Nightwing, but with a red bird design instead of blue.
A Jason Todd vs Dick Grayson fight is interesting but this story did not focus on that well but at least it had some Jason Todd vore/throat goat moments so that's something lol
Oh no... I sense a new Playlist... for superhero or villain themed fashion or art shows... or even collection displays (other than the Flash, of course).
You were talking about Jason’s place at the start. Imo I think he works as a villain pretty well in his initial “under the hood” arc but if he just stayed dead after that, I think that would have been better. Aside from being edgy and having trauma, he doesn’t really bring a lot to the table I feel. He works better as a permanent reminder of Batman’s failures.
But what was Batman's failure? To me, it was failing to listen and connect as Jason's father figure. If Jason had felt secure and that he could trust Bruce, he would have come to him with the information about a birth mother instead of running off. Instead, Bruce seems to twist it into "I didn't teach him not to be reckless". So leaving Jason dead means Bruce never has to confront his ego-centric view of what happened. It also leaves Bruce open to making the same mistake with other people he mentors/adopts. Jason being alive again provides a great opportunity to question the stories Bruce tells himself and others. Batman, the logical thinker, is not a reliable narrator. Of course DC is squandering this. I have not seen any stories where Batman/Bruce asks Jason what happened. Instead the comics are written as though Batman's experience is objective truth. There is a great opportunity here for Bruce to grow as a character, learning to listen more and to check in with his family members and let them know that he appreciates and trusts them.
I'm really glad I missed this entire storyline and that no one tries to reintroduce it. It's like, since Didio couldn't kill Nightwing in the DC Universe, he was going to kill the book's sales.
Seems to me the story would have had more gravitas if they'd gone for the "fractured-mirror" trope. Kinda like, Jason just returned to life and he hasn't fully pieced himself back together yet. His history with Dick would have made an excellent latching-point plotwise. And no Tentatodd (ew!). I mean, it was amusing, but it didn't progress the story in any meaningful way. Favorite Robin? Damian! (because... well, because DAMIAN!) 😜🤣
🤨MEH!!! The story is just out there…far out there …convoluted…weird. Also am I the only one who thinks Cheyenne is a poor man’s Babs , & that Doc Clancy looks just like Dick’s first land lord & potential love interest from Bluhaven the Asian lady with the Scottish accent also named Clancy ? …Anyway Keep Up The Outstanding Work Sasha 🖖🏾
I'm remembering that time Jean Grey had tentacle arms. Now I'm wondering if other comics characters randomly, temporarily, sprouted tentacles. Is this a secret comics trope!? 🤔
Favourite Robin and why??
Jarro the Star Wonder, because the image of batman hugging an alien starfish is funny.
The og dick Grayson nuff said and can you do the comic history of the white canary and how she is different from the arrowverse
Damian or Duke, and it's 100 percent when i came into comics. Because i love every Robin for different reasons
Richard "D*ck" Grayson. Why? Not sure.
Jason Todd, because it was like Punisher + Winter Soldier + Batman
Dick: "Stop taking my identities!!!"
Jason: "I thought you were dead!"
Dick: "That's not an excuse!!"
Ironic!
I have to say, "Tentatodd" is one of the most Silver Age things I've ever seen in the more modern comics. Like seriously, the hero just turns into an alien tentacle monster for 24-hours and then it just wears off and no one ever talks about it again? That is classic Superman Red Kryptonite shenanigans right there!
And how Jason just rolls with it. Not upset in the slightest. Ha ha! Behold, the powers you accidentally gave me that I will now use to defeat you!
I was going to type something something like this but you said it for me.
Lmaoo yaaa
I feel like everyone in this comic is WAY TOO CALM about what happened to Jason, especially Jason himself.
"Eh, I've been dead."
Tentatodd was not Tentacool, he was Tentacruel.
😆
Breh
I'm surprised they haven't revisited a story of "Jason becoming Nightwing" , especially during the Spiral, or (shudders) Ric Grayson era.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are experiencing tentacle difficulties...
Bruce: I feel like i should ground you.
Dick: Bruce, I'm twenty-six!
Jason: And I've been punished enough.
I remember this story too well, but for completely different reasons. The moment when Jason is hallucinating and telling Dick that he is scared stuck with me. That this was after Under the Red Hood and that there was so much left unsaid between them. It makes me think about their dynamic as brothers and their histories. Of Dick feeling like he never got the chance to be a proper big brother to Jason because he was fighting with Bruce at the time. And Jason always looking up to Dick but always being seen as just a replacement.
This story could have focused on their relantionship and how they viewed each other after Jason's resurrection. Dick wanting to finally be there for Jason and Jason wanting the comfort of his family. But this story was all over the place, with characters and ideas.
The storyline before this, (I think memory is not perfect), is a flashback to Dick getting fired and becoming Nightwing. That was also a crazy story. Nightwing around Infinite Crisis was really all over the place.
This is a piece of Jason Todd lore that is forever seared into my brain now.
The whole "original" concept of OYL that DiDio posted recently is just wild. Besides Jason as Nightwing (and Dick being dead), you had Cassandra Cain sacrificing her life to resurrect Stephanie Brown, and Conner Kent embracing his Lex Luthor side. Like, WTF?! Oracle running Checkmate sign me up on that though.
It's nothing compared to the scrapped 5G plans.
Is Waller still involved in Checkmate? Because Waller and Oracle "working" together would be so awesome.
@@tomorrow4eva I'm pretty sure she's not involved with Checkmate as of now. Or at least she wasn't as of the Checkmate limited series they did last year.
The last I heard of Waller, she went to Earth 3 as part of some scheme or another.
Awww Cass sacrificing herself to save her girlfriend? Sweet
Seriously though wtf
Does anyone else find it annoying that, despite clearly being in the same age group as or slightly older than Tim Drake (who debuted a year or so after his death), since being revived, Jason’s been portrayed as either in Dick and Barbara’s age ranges or slightly younger. Realistically, he should still be a teenager, but I guess Red Hood’s not very threatening as a teenage anti-hero.
I've personally always read it more as Jason at 23ish and Dick and Barbara at 29 or so. 25 and 32 when they have been allowed to age for a bit.
It's really amazing how Todd knows the transformation is only temporary. Where did he get his Mad Scientist doctorate, PU?
An interesting angle they could've taken for why Jason became nightwing would just be to troll and hangout with Dick... They could've explored the whole sibling dynamic of the younger brother annoying the older brother just to hang out with him in a superhero fashion
If DC wanted a place for Jason they could've just made him a full on menace to the DC universe like Deadpool or Loki... Especially Loki were he's sometimes a villian sometimes a good guy just causing problems on both sides
Being an annoying younger brother seems on-brand for Jason.
I'm not going to pretend I've researched this opinion, but I wish Jason Todd as a character had...a character. An agreed-upon set of traits that makes it feel like you can tell whether the way he acts in a specific storyline is in-character or not. I'm not claiming to know the perfect characterization of Jason, but that's kinda my point. It seems like there are some writers who have a firm and complex sense of who they think Jason is and then other writers just go "idk he's angry, violent, and died before, so slot him into whatever needs craziness and killing", especially considering how often his character is brought 'back to basics'. I'd argue his character seems more consistent across the extremely broad range of fanfiction writers than it is among the DC-appointed writers of comics involving him, which is wild. It's a shame. He would be really compelling if the default for writers without a clear vision for him wasn't just "lol killing and chaos go brrr".
How is Jason not shocked or terrified at all at the fact he can turn into grotesque body horror?!?!?!
1)Probably just one of those things you expect to happen in the hero business
2)He did die and come back to life, so who knows how that effects your mind.
“Eh? I just roll with it. The stories I heard from Jimmy Olsen make this look like a walk in the park.” Jason
He’s just generally nuts I guess
"Bruce adopted a starfish alien. Once that enters your life good luck surprising me. I just hope this time I don't grow teeth out my butt next time."
Straight up, the setup for a good Dick & Jason story was right there. All you needed to do was keep things focused on the two of them, show their different styles of crime fighting, how effective or not each take is, the public opinion on each, DROP JACOB ALL TOGETHER, and have them team up to fight the Pierce brothers at the end. They need to remake this story somehow because it has the potential to be a great one off. Maybe adapt into an animated movie with a lot of changes.
And get rid of all the secret identity spoilers. I'm sure Bruce sneezes every time one of his kids calls another by real name when in a costume.
4:50 Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but Jason here is practically 1 step away from changing his name and asking everybody to call him Rick.
The name Nightwingers is more then enough of a reason to say no.
This was such a weird time in comics. The One Year Later Outsiders also read really weird because the Nightwing in that title was clearly supposed to be Jason, but they changed their minds last minute and just switched the names back so you had oddities like Dick as Nightwing threatening Superman with kryptonite.
Finally! I've been wait for this! The drama, the tension, the nonsense!!!
I would like to see a comic with them both teaming up to be Nightwing, in a way to keep their identities secret and support each other. Something like what they did with Crimson Fox.
For some reason this reminds me of when Frank Castle became his own twisted version of Captain America to honor Steve Rogers lol
I clicked on this out of the notifications tab without looking at the thumbnail. And what the actual fuck is happening? Tentatodd? What the blue happy hell is happening?
I've watched this three times and I still don't know how I feel about Tentatodd. I'm equal parts horrified, confused, intrigued, and wanting to kill it with fire.
I havent watched the video yet but
YOU HOW DARE YOU MAKE ME REMEMBER THIS
I remember Tentatodd bc my friend who knew I had a crush on Jason once gave me this comic as a gift. She even left a note on the last page jokingly asking "Would you still let him hit it?"
Damn. Everything does come full circle. This is one of the first comics I ever read as a kid, and never was able to find it again. I still remember this like 15 years later. And I'm deep down the comics rabbit hole now lol.
I read this years ago and I did not need to remember. The first signs of Nightwing getting that editorial shaft along with Jason lol.
You know, it would be interesting if Jason had his original red hair color back in addition to having him just hanging out with Dick and Tim.
It would be interesting just to see more of their sibling dynamic. Plus, it would be neat to see a former sidekick without black hair (and yes I know Stephanie Brown is an exception, but she's mentioned less than Tim).
Can't wait for this to be brought up in banter between these two bros like Jason's death was that one time.
I somehow forgot this lol. I remember Jason being Nightwing but I completely forgot the tentacle monster part.
Jason could have become the new host of the Ultra-Humanite.
Yes.
Honestly the pre new 52 era for Jason is probably his most interesting. After UTRH they didnt really know what to do with him. So here's an era where they're doing anything and everything with him. From red hood and scatlet, to the green arrow appearances and now this.
I get why a lot of this was retconned away with new 52 but still a neat bit of history for the character
The reasoning for killing Dick in Infinite Crisis is just bizarre. DC just has to accept that Batman has to be at least in his early 40s at this point. It's not the end of the world and the fans know it anyway. Also, killing Nightwing to bring Batman and Superman together is very disrespectful imo. Nightwing is his own hero. It's similar with Ric. They shot Nightwing in the head - derailing his comic for almost two years - so Bruce could feel some man pain for 3 issues. It's annoying for someone who likes Batman but will always be more of a Nightwing-fan.
I always ignored the aging because.. who cares? I think Scott snyder solved the problem in endgame but dumping him in that not a Lazarus pit. Which he stole from a batman beyond. episode.
not correct. even if we take the shortest time-spans for the important events Bruce would now need to be, at least, between 49-51 years old.
It's almost like the story would need to move on from Bruce in the cowl, but naaaaaaah, lets reboot 100 times again before we do the logical choice.
Did they ever retcon the whole “Jason had an affair with Talia post-resurrection” thing? It’s kinda gross to think he’s technically his brother’s (Damian) stepdad.
Which means he also banged his adoptive father's baby momma. 😂 Between that and Bruce hooking up with Barbara (who's Dick's ex/girlfriend), the Bat-family tree is turning into a Christmas wreath. 😅
Yeah that plot...lol whyyyy
@@CasuallyComics 🤣
Yeah… just .. “ewwwwww!”🤣
@@hope-cat4894 Brucebabs really only happened in the Timm-verse and thankfully has no bearing on canon/MU comics. hopefully we can all forget about both within time
I know I read this when it came out. I know I threw my copies of the issues into the recycling bin not long after. I couldn't remember why. Now I think I know.
Love that wig. The length of it is really quite eye catching.
Another great summary. Fun and clever as always! I would love it if you could create a video featuring Lady Nightwing. She seems like a complementary character in the world of Batgirl of Burnside. I personally would have loved to see this arc play out while Bruce Wayne was lost in time and Dick and Damien became Batman and Robin. After losing the Battle of the Cowls Jason decides not to be Red Hood or Batman and settles to become the new Nightwing. When Bruce returns, there could be this battle of the two Nightwings, while still dramatizing that these former Robins have a fondness for each other. A less violent Red Hood could return tentatively to the Bat family having gone through his prodigal son phase of vigilantism.
Happy Batman Day 2023! We lurve you Sasha!
I'm glad you explained all of this. My head hurts too much from these types of stories. Great job.
"One Year Later" is a helluva rollercoaster ride of amazing stories to WTH?! You have this, Wonder Woman, Robin, and Hawkgirl's stories are all memorable for their awful stories. Then you have Superman, Green Lantern, and Birds of Prey which were stellar restarts or interesting premises.
Just when I thought of more batbro review from you! ❤
I shouldn’t be surprised by this. I shouldn’t be surprised by anything anymore.
But I am. Very much so. WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE
I remember this story. I read it for free in my college bookstore. It was not a good era for Nightwing.
Tentatodd has been a monster for only 5 minutes and he's already eating people. Because when Jason Todd sees a slippery slope, he pulls out his Krazy Karpet.
This just makes me think, "yeah, sharing a crime fighting persona every other night sounds way healthier!" Just another example of plot complications actually being good.
I remember seeing "Tentatodd" in an issue of Wizard Magazine at the time; it was bizarre then and it's bizarre now. Wrapping up the storyline with a telegram (do people even use those anymore?) was even more bizarre. And yes, more if Lady Nightwing, please.
[Video was at 16:45 when I made this comment: I don't know why UA-cam added this feature lol]
7:00 Jacob reminds me of the psychic from the Gruenwald run of Captain America, the one Zemo hired to find the Bloodstones to resurrect his father, and who Crossbones (Who had spied on this adventure) hired to find Red Skull after Magneto buried him alive.
This is 1 of those stories that people bring up when they ask "Why is Jason considered part of the bat family? Remember when he did this"
I understand. Yeah, they kind of toned it down, Since back then, I think DC was trying to play up that the lazuras pit was responsible since it makes you crazy.
Also, more fans like bat bros together than they do apart.
Plus, we live in the age of the anti-hero, where Robins who walked the grey line like Redhood and Damian are definitely more popular than genuine good boys like Nightwing and Tim Drake.
BATFAM 4 LIFE
The beautiful thing about a bigger Batfam is that there are more people for a reader to connect with. If one doesn't resonate, another one probably will.
Just like any family, you get the black sheep, Jason just happens to be that to the Bat Fam!
...what the actual Hell, DC?!?!
never underestimate the importance of the 180 rule.
I've read every Nightwing solo issue and I think this is the worst run of them all. The Dick&Jason-relationship could have been interesting but it was so badly and bizarrely executed. I sympathize with the creative team though because they must have reworked that story idea pretty late when Dick didn't end up dying in Infinite Crisis (thank God).
I mean, if there is anyone who could emphathize with returning from the dead and finding someone had replaced you, it would be jason.
This was absolutely ridiculous. great video.
When I first read about I instantly thought of Tetsuo’s mutation into a giant blob at the end of Akira, thinking that was probably the main inspiration behind it.
This was clearly an excuse for at least one of the people involved to get their fetishes published.
Wait, so he didn't just want to kill Nightwing, he wanted to put him in a refrigerator? Boo. They lack creativity if the only way they can solve Batman and Superman's relationship issues is to kill someone.
The writers barely disguised fetish? Got some wild stuff going on here alright.
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Whys Jason so chill about it and so quickly adjusts to the ability😆 the most silver age ass thing ever
That was disturbing. Monster Todd! And people give me a hard time because I love All Star Batman and Robin.
Just wanna say I enjoy this wig. Probably my second favorite behind the rainbow hime cut
I haven't seen that reading a letter and saying STOP after every period since the 90s.
I read this run for the 1st time about a month ago and i just had a permanent confused look on my face the entire time.
Also i have to say I love this look for your hair its super cute.
Sasha, there's a lot that I've seen that I'm happy to remember, but Tentatodd is something I wish I never saw.
the psychiatrist Dick talks to is Bridgette Clancy, his landlady during the Dixon run!
She returned in Taylor's Nightwing run
Is that a "note" or a telegram she's reading? Why all the stops? That's how a telegram would be read. Telegrams also had holes on both sides (at least some did), but most notebook paper only has holes on the left side. Interestingly, this arc began to be published in May, 2006, and Western Union had just sent its last telegram at the end of January, just over two months prior. It made the news. If that is indeed a telegram, I wonder if the writer read the news story and placed it in the story as an homage? In any case, I really enjoyed the video! Thanks for another fun ride!
Welp. That's definitely more disturbing and random than the time Jean Grey got tentacles for arms because reasons.
Regarding the liquid Jason was submerged in: Many, many years ago, I saw a TV science show which demonstrated a liquid that was breathable! They dunked a white mouse into the beaker and it didn't drown! Wild!
Sounds like they smoked a doobie and said ,"It's a comic book, man"!!!!
I remember having issue 122 when I was a kid. I didn't know much about Nightwing at the time and this story just came at me so weirdly that I never really knew what to do with it. I'd be interested in seeing an analysis about Raptor and Bride & Groom (forget the issue, but it's the one where Dick's buried alive).
Great video as always!! I've been trying to get into comics lately, and this channel and community seem really friendly!! Do you guys have any recs on good batsibilings stories for me to read?
I like Nightwing Year 1.
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Ohh it looks interesting, I'll look into it ;D thanks!!
I like this. Thank you
Not enough people know about the original Crisis on Infinite Earths sequel, Legends
Didn't they do this before? Or did it again? I don't remember the context as it has been years, but I distinctly remember seeing an issue where Jason Todd was dressed as Nightwing, but with a red bird design instead of blue.
DIDIO STANS!? Now I know we live in the dark timeline.
A Jason Todd vs Dick Grayson fight is interesting but this story did not focus on that well but at least it had some Jason Todd vore/throat goat moments so that's something lol
Where's is Alfred to call them both on how super mature they are behaving on this series?
The “GLUP” sound effect cracks me up for some reason.
Oh no... I sense a new Playlist... for superhero or villain themed fashion or art shows... or even collection displays (other than the Flash, of course).
You were talking about Jason’s place at the start. Imo I think he works as a villain pretty well in his initial “under the hood” arc but if he just stayed dead after that, I think that would have been better. Aside from being edgy and having trauma, he doesn’t really bring a lot to the table I feel. He works better as a permanent reminder of Batman’s failures.
But what was Batman's failure? To me, it was failing to listen and connect as Jason's father figure. If Jason had felt secure and that he could trust Bruce, he would have come to him with the information about a birth mother instead of running off. Instead, Bruce seems to twist it into "I didn't teach him not to be reckless". So leaving Jason dead means Bruce never has to confront his ego-centric view of what happened. It also leaves Bruce open to making the same mistake with other people he mentors/adopts. Jason being alive again provides a great opportunity to question the stories Bruce tells himself and others. Batman, the logical thinker, is not a reliable narrator.
Of course DC is squandering this. I have not seen any stories where Batman/Bruce asks Jason what happened. Instead the comics are written as though Batman's experience is objective truth. There is a great opportunity here for Bruce to grow as a character, learning to listen more and to check in with his family members and let them know that he appreciates and trusts them.
Tentatodd is what happens when you read too much hentai
I like how someone involved is named 'Guy Mayjor." that's the fakest name I've ever heard
I.....uhhh....what?!
Do the comic history of the white canary and how she is different from the arrowverse
WHAT. THE. HELL.
Dickster & The Nightwingers
I'm really glad I missed this entire storyline and that no one tries to reintroduce it. It's like, since Didio couldn't kill Nightwing in the DC Universe, he was going to kill the book's sales.
Your wig and outfit give off serious X-Men Evolution Jean Grey energy.
I'm happy to know about TentaTodd.
Jason Todd sent a telegram? Is he from the 1880s?
Seems to me the story would have had more gravitas if they'd gone for the "fractured-mirror" trope. Kinda like, Jason just returned to life and he hasn't fully pieced himself back together yet. His history with Dick would have made an excellent latching-point plotwise. And no Tentatodd (ew!). I mean, it was amusing, but it didn't progress the story in any meaningful way.
Favorite Robin? Damian!
(because... well, because DAMIAN!) 😜🤣
"Tentatodd" is marginally better than "Toddickles."
🤨MEH!!! The story is just out there…far out there …convoluted…weird. Also am I the only one who thinks Cheyenne is a poor man’s Babs , & that Doc Clancy looks just like Dick’s first land lord & potential love interest from Bluhaven the Asian lady with the Scottish accent also named Clancy ? …Anyway Keep Up The Outstanding Work Sasha 🖖🏾
Please, do the lady nightwing side of the story, I'm here for the whole thing!
Wait, Jason Todd isn't a tentacle monster?! I just assumed he always was one.
Then which DC tentacle monsters are more worthy of our devotion than Tentatodd?
The first panel of Tentatodd reminded me of the Darkness.
"I need to go now stop. My planet needs me stop." 😉
I'm remembering that time Jean Grey had tentacle arms. Now I'm wondering if other comics characters randomly, temporarily, sprouted tentacles. Is this a secret comics trope!? 🤔
If I had a nickel for each time Jason was trapped inside an exploding building...