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Okay... I would consider myself an expert level skier. I've skied most of my life. Performance level? That's a new thing for me, and I'm working on it. And so I've been combing through vids that really break it down. SIA really breaks it down. Thanks for that. Sometimes it is a little much to take in all the detail in that it isn't personally critiquing one's individual skiing/issues, and a lot of us figure this stuff out by imagining what we do and through that what we would like to be doing without the aid of video documentation of reality vs mind's eye. That said, I think my turn entry is pretty spot on, my balance is pretty good, fore and aft good, edge angle decent, upper body solid, but one thing really holding me back is cleanly finishing the turn in smedium and up radius turns; I skid the tails slightly before the topple, and learned so as a "technique." As I pushed the edges harder to combat this it would result in chatter. And then I watched this vid, and I thought, "I hike my hip." But then today, skiing on a 35 degree firm snow groomer the notion came to me to accentuate the hip hike and MY GOD! NO SKID! Before I FELT it I didn't think I threw my hip into the turn, but when accentuating the hip hike it became impossible to do what felt normal, which was in fact throwing my trochanter into the turn, but as soon as the hip hiked all the strength I was putting into the turn instantly became clean power. And no skidding. It seems like I just opened a new door. Thank you for making this video. I'm an older guy, 50ish, old enough to see retirement from my current career coming, and at some point my dream retirement job is to be a level 3 PSIA instructor. Not sure I can pull it off, but that is now my skiing focus. Again, thanks for vids like this. The hip hike might just be one of the most important, main teaching focuses that can alleviate a lot of @ finish turn struggles. I want to add one thought... In the 90's I was also an expert level club motorcycle road racer. At the time Mick Doohan was reining supreme on the GP circuit. My style on the bike was very similar: i.e. counter rotating at the hip, throwing it into the turn to alter the CG but while keeping the upper torso over the bulk of the bike. On that, I think a lot of us who learned our skiing trade on straight stick 80's skis, a time that pushed A-frame, despite what we knew we did, we did by throwing the hip into it with a lot of counter rotation. But back to Mick's style, it worked solid for me, and obviously for him, it was a steer from the rear, slide and then hook up, but compared to Vallentino Rossie, the technique is quite archaic and definitely slower on modern bikes that can rail much more through the turn. Mick's style emphasized being in a ready position for an intentional loss of traction past the apex, using that to straighten the bike out for violent acceleration that then speced GP bikes and tires, as well as lesser level, ridden at the limit could be best utilized to to do; these were slow in, fast out hole-shot bikes. Valentino's style works the fact the bikes and tires are profoundly better and the technique had to adapt to milk more out of that new level of equipment, which can carry speed and then add to it at the exit much better. Much like skis today. I would suggest a lot of basic-level ski school technique is still trapped in the ideal way of doing things on the straight stick, hole shot skis.
I've always loved this discussion, but now with a bit more experience, I wonder: is it an unwillingness to incline more (as Tom hints at @ 3:45) or an inability to "hike the hip" that is blocking higher edge angles? For me, Tom's "Hand Drag Drill" was a way to safely achieve more inclination at the start of the turn: it turns out I had no trouble moving my hips to meet the angulation needs even at the new, much higher edge angles. My brain just reflexively balked at inclining more. Whereas when I tried to hike my hip my overall turn shape became rounder and the pressure against the outside edge stronger ... but if anything the stronger angulation, applied too soon, stopped me from inclining further.
Can you help me on this hip hiking? Anybody? I just watched first 30 skiers in a World Cup. Hips are almost perpendicular to there leg angle throughout the turn not only on one skier but all skiers are amazing similar with the hip horizontal only for a fraction of a second in the transition. How are they all in this same position? Totally different than yellow pants.
Good video but Dear God guys, at 3:40 the Blue dude has already turned by pivoting/sliding and THEN drop his hips/weight inside. But the Yellow dude is still heading in the same direction and is building his angulation with is ankle and knee THEN hip and start turning when is anchored on his edges / rails. The yellow dude build his plateform from the lower joints and then drop. The confidence he builds early in the turn allows him to get that much of angulation. Starts with the ankle. Micro to Marcro! Enjoy your winter!
Loved the previous videos, but this one is rather less clear. The difference between the yellow skier and blue one is surely a function of speed or the radius they are seeking to follow. And the lower leg line Tom drew on the blue skier appeared to match the line from his hips, whereas he seemed to be suggesting it differed. I’m not atall sure what is being advised. Other than to subscribe to Tom’s video courses of course!
Hello. Thank you for your nice message. We are trying not to generalise. We are making short informative snippets that will be less than 10 minuets. As you can imagine this means we can not talk about all the mistakes a skier is making but we need to remain on topic at all times. The topic today was just to do with Hip Hike and how that works. The skier in blue has twisted his pelvis and this misalignment was the main concern. Thank again.
Blue guy is twisting the hips more instead of pulling the outside hip up. I think that will tend to bring the weight back too much, making tip engagement harder at the start of the turn.
Blue guy is twisting the hips more instead of pulling the outside hip up. I think that will tend to bring the weight back too much, making tip engagement harder at the start of the turn.
Love the Bite-sized videos and great explanation as Tom explains how coupled can affect ski edge angle. Where can I find your: No More Skidding - How to finish turns strongly video thanks? Patty
Hey Patrick, thanks for the feedback. glad to hear you are enjoying the videos. i believe the video you are referring to is 'Fore and aft.' ua-cam.com/video/eLvymqwo_so/v-deo.html
Hip hike….better grip (alignment with slope)…..an incredible unblocking (turn) action…rebounding into next turn…..with help of good inside ski ankle flexion (inside ski)…..(also like the virtual mogul….reminds me of avalement (dating myself)
BINGO! Read JB91710's comment, click on his name and read all his comments at his two videos. You Need what he teaches if you want to race. All the worlds instructors describe what parts of your body look and feel like, not how to make them look and feel like that. "That sort of sounds like my Barstool Christie guys! Plant your Right pole down the hill, get off your Right foot, Lift your Right cheek and slide it over onto the Right Barstool. By lifting your cheek you are forcing your upper body to stay vertical and sliding that cheek onto the barstool creates a steep leg angle. Now, I said that in a couple of sentences and it was easy to understand and remember because we have all done it. No video or complicated words to remember."
That sort of sounds like my Barstool Christie guys! Plant your Right pole down the hill, get off your Right foot, Lift your Right cheek and slide it over onto the Right Barstool. By lifting your cheek you are forcing your upper body to stay vertical and sliding that cheek onto the barstool creates a steep leg angle. Now, I said that in a couple of sentences and it was easy to understand and remember because we have all done it. No video or complicated words to remember.
That is not actually what makes this work. Have an open mind, put your ski boots on, and try this. Assume a normal aggressive skiing stance, boots hip width, with pressure on the boot tongues, everything neutral, the same weight on each foot. Now, concentrate on the distribution of pressure on the bottom of your right foot. FEEL it. If you have decent footbeds, there will be pressure evenly spread all across your foot. Now, hike your left hip as high as you can, without changing the bend in either leg. All the weight will shift to your right foot. That is to be expected. But FEEL the distribution of pressure across the bottom of your foot. It all shifts to the inside of your foot. Think about what this does to the ski..... The tilt of the pelvic bone reacts down your loaded leg to actually change the pressure distribution on the foot bottom, and thus ski. This pelvic bone tilt, becomes part of the edge angle adjustment mechanism that we unconsciously use to maintain dynamic balance on the outside ski. Pelvic bone tilt is like an "amplifier" for edge angle adjustment. Many skiers literally can not get proper turn initiation without actively concentrating on pelvic bone tilt / hike. If they are not instructed on this unconventional biomechanical factor, they will fail to progress.
Yes...they do not explain it very well. Shocking that they talk about the exit of the turn, because pelvic bone tilt is so important to starting the turn.
Good skiers don’t “hip hike” as a directly applied move as it is being taught here. It is merely a visual output from managing the relationship between the CoM and BoS. Teaching the “hip hike” will disrupt the development of this relationship with an unnecessary break in this chain. The main reason why orgs teach junk like this is because it sounds fresh and new. Complicating development like this also makes it harder and longer to develop which also provides them job security because they are the only ones that can and will teach such malarkey.
Interesting to learn that Mikaela Shiffrin is not a "good" skier...LOL. Seriously, watch the UTube video "Mikaeala Shiffrin hip hike GS". The video was posted by her US Ski Team Technical Coach from 2015-2017. In this video, Mikaela is literally doing drills specifically exaggerating this motion - tilting of the pelvic bone. That pelvic bone tilt is one of the secrets behind Mikaela's lightning fast edge to edge speed. Just because certain bio mechanical factors are not part of the PSIA or USSA dogma does not mean that they are not critically important. Elite coaches understand that pelvic bone tilt reacts down the leg and actually changes the weight distribution on the bottom of the foot, especially the outside ski foot. This tilt or hike is what enables a good skier to become excellent, or even great. But you are correct in one aspect...this is not often taught, again because it is not part of the PSIA or USSA dogma. It does not mean that bio mechanically it is not critically important. Less informed Coaches and Instructors will tell the student to just "start the turn by tipping the skis with your feet", but that is literally impossible if you do not tilt your pelvic bone. Coaches and Instructors that correctly tell you what to do, without helping you figure out HOW are a dime a dozen. The reality is some athletes naturally and effortlessly do this "tilt" to facilitate early phase tipping. Those are the naturals who can make use of poorly informed coaching ("just start the turn by tipping the skis with your feet"). They are the lucky ones. But other athletes, due to weak gluteus medius muscles, lack of muscle activation, or injury, can not hip level without actively concentrating on it. This makes it very hard to properly initiate a turn, especially on long radius FIS skis. For those skiers, you have to actively teach the motion. If one of these skiers is coached or instructed by a typical coach, they will likely never get over this problem because the root issue, inability to tilt, will not be recognized. The other thing I hear all the time is "be patient". "You have to wait for that new ski to start the turn". That is more BS by typical coaches who are preaching the dogma. With a 30m+ radius FIS ski in the first few gates you do not have time to be patient. These skiers are likely struggling due to lack of hip tilt. It is easy to diagnose. Just put them on 30m+ skis, point them down hill, and tell them to make edge to edge carved turns "slalom quick". The ones that can do it are actively hip hiking to amplify that foot generated ski tilt. The ones that start doing old fashioned skidded late phase loading are the ones who need to work on hip leveling / tilt. Personally, I learned this because of a serious injury which greatly restricted/resisted my pelvic bone "tilting" motion in one direction. The result was the initiation of my right turn, especially on longer radius skis was terrible. Not a single coach helped me figure this out. They all told me to "tip my feet" and "widen my stance". And when I got inside, and started to lose the outside ski early in the turn, they simply told me to "stop doing that". OK..HOW? They were all useless. I even asked one of them, a former USST coach (from the 1990s era), about active hip hiking at the start of the turn, and he dismissed it. But when I tried it, actually did it, he said..."that looks great...so much better". HE LITERALLY COULD NOT SEE WHAT I WAS DOING TO FIX THE ISSUE.
@@shooter7a and you have never heard the words: “hip hike” come out of Shiffrin’s or any WC racer’s mouth. You are a sucker of modern instruction marketing which is mostly crap that ignores the fundamentals.
@@AtomicB-zq2cwthen why is there a video of her practicing it? Did you even watch Dyksterhouse's video? I am pretty sure a USST tech coach knows more than you. There is absolutely nothing about Brandon's coaching tip, the video, that has to do with "modern instruction marketing". You are a buffoon who should learn something about biomechanics.
@@AtomicB-zq2cw ua-cam.com/video/DG_Dg7_NIt0/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/ynNRGUaYQkM/v-deo.html 3 Olympic Gold Medals between them....LOL. One demonstrating inside hip high pelvic bone tilt in drills....and one coaching it. I do not think you know as much as you think you know. This is one of the secret moves of modern skiing that no on talks about.
I love your response here. I'm a high level skier living in Whistler, BC for the past 30 years and a former ski instructor. I've been struggling for literally 25 years with very unpredictable performance in my skiing. Some days I absolutely rip all over the mountain and feel super locked in and able to do no wrong and then the next day I'd be skidding around with barely any edge angle like an intermediate trying to replicate whatever "magic moves" I was doing the day before. I knew it had something to do with my hip tilt but I could never replicate those good feelings day after day. I was always trying to fix the issue by working from the feet up and just tipping my ankles and knees over more to start the turn. Once I started to consciously focus on getting that lateral pelvic tilt by lifting my inside hip and out of the way using my gluteus medius (glut med) then my edge angle increased effortlessly. I'm SO HAPPY to have discovered what I always sensed was the problem somehow. It's so true that so many "gifted" high level skiers do this effortlessly without thinking about it and probably can't even tell you that they're doing it. It's one of THE key moves in skiing but the move is often neglected in instruction & coaching because the very best skiers don't even realize they're doing it so how can they teach it.@@shooter7a
apriril 1 to angulate you inclaine hips legs down--- uphill hip up upper body down hill insaide hip squere to down hill ski without any ankles knees forwart flex flat skis durning lateral movment edge set after complete hips inclainedl legs uphill flexing pelvis to angulate you finish on down hill ski you start new turn without up movment you are total opposite you start turn from uphill ski dumping legs hips upper body as one unit flexing insaide leg downto prevent falling uphill raight way is i swing may uphill hip up same taime upper body hip down hill insaide hip back reverse hip steering right turn rotate right hip back left turn rotete left hip back leading w.c.racers have hips range 45 degrees forwart 60 degrees backwart all of them rotate back durning lateral transition squre insaide hip to outsaide ski staple angulatet upper body begginink of the turn not end
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Okay... I would consider myself an expert level skier. I've skied most of my life. Performance level? That's a new thing for me, and I'm working on it. And so I've been combing through vids that really break it down. SIA really breaks it down. Thanks for that. Sometimes it is a little much to take in all the detail in that it isn't personally critiquing one's individual skiing/issues, and a lot of us figure this stuff out by imagining what we do and through that what we would like to be doing without the aid of video documentation of reality vs mind's eye. That said, I think my turn entry is pretty spot on, my balance is pretty good, fore and aft good, edge angle decent, upper body solid, but one thing really holding me back is cleanly finishing the turn in smedium and up radius turns; I skid the tails slightly before the topple, and learned so as a "technique." As I pushed the edges harder to combat this it would result in chatter. And then I watched this vid, and I thought, "I hike my hip." But then today, skiing on a 35 degree firm snow groomer the notion came to me to accentuate the hip hike and MY GOD! NO SKID! Before I FELT it I didn't think I threw my hip into the turn, but when accentuating the hip hike it became impossible to do what felt normal, which was in fact throwing my trochanter into the turn, but as soon as the hip hiked all the strength I was putting into the turn instantly became clean power. And no skidding. It seems like I just opened a new door. Thank you for making this video. I'm an older guy, 50ish, old enough to see retirement from my current career coming, and at some point my dream retirement job is to be a level 3 PSIA instructor. Not sure I can pull it off, but that is now my skiing focus. Again, thanks for vids like this. The hip hike might just be one of the most important, main teaching focuses that can alleviate a lot of @ finish turn struggles.
I want to add one thought... In the 90's I was also an expert level club motorcycle road racer. At the time Mick Doohan was reining supreme on the GP circuit. My style on the bike was very similar: i.e. counter rotating at the hip, throwing it into the turn to alter the CG but while keeping the upper torso over the bulk of the bike. On that, I think a lot of us who learned our skiing trade on straight stick 80's skis, a time that pushed A-frame, despite what we knew we did, we did by throwing the hip into it with a lot of counter rotation. But back to Mick's style, it worked solid for me, and obviously for him, it was a steer from the rear, slide and then hook up, but compared to Vallentino Rossie, the technique is quite archaic and definitely slower on modern bikes that can rail much more through the turn. Mick's style emphasized being in a ready position for an intentional loss of traction past the apex, using that to straighten the bike out for violent acceleration that then speced GP bikes and tires, as well as lesser level, ridden at the limit could be best utilized to to do; these were slow in, fast out hole-shot bikes. Valentino's style works the fact the bikes and tires are profoundly better and the technique had to adapt to milk more out of that new level of equipment, which can carry speed and then add to it at the exit much better. Much like skis today. I would suggest a lot of basic-level ski school technique is still trapped in the ideal way of doing things on the straight stick, hole shot skis.
Reaching your goals in your 50's is well possible as we have many a student who has made this level. Good luck!
Good to see Tom on the Austrian channel 🤷🏻♂️👍
Thanks to share this informations.
Very good explanation Tom Gillie. 👍
Glad you enjoyed Frédérik
I've always loved this discussion, but now with a bit more experience, I wonder: is it an unwillingness to incline more (as Tom hints at @ 3:45) or an inability to "hike the hip" that is blocking higher edge angles?
For me, Tom's "Hand Drag Drill" was a way to safely achieve more inclination at the start of the turn: it turns out I had no trouble moving my hips to meet the angulation needs even at the new, much higher edge angles. My brain just reflexively balked at inclining more.
Whereas when I tried to hike my hip my overall turn shape became rounder and the pressure against the outside edge stronger ... but if anything the stronger angulation, applied too soon, stopped me from inclining further.
Can you help me on this hip hiking? Anybody? I just watched first 30 skiers in a World Cup. Hips are almost perpendicular to there leg angle throughout the turn not only on one skier but all skiers are amazing similar with the hip horizontal only for a fraction of a second in the transition. How are they all in this same position? Totally different than yellow pants.
I found this so interesting but the indoor demo would hve been so much better if we could hve seen his hips rather than the ceiling!
Good video but Dear God guys, at 3:40 the Blue dude has already turned by pivoting/sliding and THEN drop his hips/weight inside. But the Yellow dude is still heading in the same direction and is building his angulation with is ankle and knee THEN hip and start turning when is anchored on his edges / rails. The yellow dude build his plateform from the lower joints and then drop. The confidence he builds early in the turn allows him to get that much of angulation. Starts with the ankle. Micro to Marcro! Enjoy your winter!
Loved the previous videos, but this one is rather less clear. The difference between the yellow skier and blue one is surely a function of speed or the radius they are seeking to follow. And the lower leg line Tom drew on the blue skier appeared to match the line from his hips, whereas he seemed to be suggesting it differed. I’m not atall sure what is being advised. Other than to subscribe to Tom’s video courses of course!
Hello. Thank you for your nice message. We are trying not to generalise. We are making short informative snippets that will be less than 10 minuets. As you can imagine this means we can not talk about all the mistakes a skier is making but we need to remain on topic at all times. The topic today was just to do with Hip Hike and how that works. The skier in blue has twisted his pelvis and this misalignment was the main concern. Thank again.
Blue guy is twisting the hips more instead of pulling the outside hip up. I think that will tend to bring the weight back too much, making tip engagement harder at the start of the turn.
Blue guy is twisting the hips more instead of pulling the outside hip up. I think that will tend to bring the weight back too much, making tip engagement harder at the start of the turn.
Love the Bite-sized videos and great explanation as Tom explains how coupled can affect ski edge angle. Where can I find your: No More Skidding - How to finish turns strongly video thanks? Patty
Hey Patrick, thanks for the feedback. glad to hear you are enjoying the videos. i believe the video you are referring to is 'Fore and aft.' ua-cam.com/video/eLvymqwo_so/v-deo.html
not a big fan of the double pole drag drill it promotes bending at the waist
Hip hike….better grip (alignment with slope)…..an incredible unblocking (turn) action…rebounding into next turn…..with help of good inside ski ankle flexion (inside ski)…..(also like the virtual mogul….reminds me of avalement (dating myself)
Did not understand any of this (and I am trying to race). Sounds like you are onto somrthing but what is a complete mystery.
BINGO! Read JB91710's comment, click on his name and read all his comments at his two videos. You Need what he teaches if you want to race.
All the worlds instructors describe what parts of your body look and feel like, not how to make them look and feel like that.
"That sort of sounds like my Barstool Christie guys! Plant your Right pole down the hill, get off your Right foot, Lift your Right cheek and slide it over onto the Right Barstool. By lifting your cheek you are forcing your upper body to stay vertical and sliding that cheek onto the barstool creates a steep leg angle. Now, I said that in a couple of sentences and it was easy to understand and remember because we have all done it. No video or complicated words to remember."
good secret daddy.. very swiss... fine example of special relativity, Einstein's "happiest idea".
That sort of sounds like my Barstool Christie guys! Plant your Right pole down the hill, get off your Right foot, Lift your Right cheek and slide it over onto the Right Barstool. By lifting your cheek you are forcing your upper body to stay vertical and sliding that cheek onto the barstool creates a steep leg angle. Now, I said that in a couple of sentences and it was easy to understand and remember because we have all done it. No video or complicated words to remember.
They do not allow barstools in ski lifts.
That is not actually what makes this work. Have an open mind, put your ski boots on, and try this. Assume a normal aggressive skiing stance, boots hip width, with pressure on the boot tongues, everything neutral, the same weight on each foot. Now, concentrate on the distribution of pressure on the bottom of your right foot. FEEL it. If you have decent footbeds, there will be pressure evenly spread all across your foot. Now, hike your left hip as high as you can, without changing the bend in either leg. All the weight will shift to your right foot. That is to be expected. But FEEL the distribution of pressure across the bottom of your foot. It all shifts to the inside of your foot. Think about what this does to the ski..... The tilt of the pelvic bone reacts down your loaded leg to actually change the pressure distribution on the foot bottom, and thus ski. This pelvic bone tilt, becomes part of the edge angle adjustment mechanism that we unconsciously use to maintain dynamic balance on the outside ski. Pelvic bone tilt is like an "amplifier" for edge angle adjustment. Many skiers literally can not get proper turn initiation without actively concentrating on pelvic bone tilt / hike. If they are not instructed on this unconventional biomechanical factor, they will fail to progress.
You hit the nail on the head. Pelvic tilt is the magic sauce and barely anyone understands it! @@shooter7a
Well this was complete garbage. Took an easy to understand concept and made a total mess of it.
Yes...they do not explain it very well. Shocking that they talk about the exit of the turn, because pelvic bone tilt is so important to starting the turn.
Good skiers don’t “hip hike” as a directly applied move as it is being taught here. It is merely a visual output from managing the relationship between the CoM and BoS. Teaching the “hip hike” will disrupt the development of this relationship with an unnecessary break in this chain. The main reason why orgs teach junk like this is because it sounds fresh and new. Complicating development like this also makes it harder and longer to develop which also provides them job security because they are the only ones that can and will teach such malarkey.
Interesting to learn that Mikaela Shiffrin is not a "good" skier...LOL. Seriously, watch the UTube video "Mikaeala Shiffrin hip hike GS". The video was posted by her US Ski Team Technical Coach from 2015-2017. In this video, Mikaela is literally doing drills specifically exaggerating this motion - tilting of the pelvic bone. That pelvic bone tilt is one of the secrets behind Mikaela's lightning fast edge to edge speed. Just because certain bio mechanical factors are not part of the PSIA or USSA dogma does not mean that they are not critically important.
Elite coaches understand that pelvic bone tilt reacts down the leg and actually changes the weight distribution on the bottom of the foot, especially the outside ski foot. This tilt or hike is what enables a good skier to become excellent, or even great. But you are correct in one aspect...this is not often taught, again because it is not part of the PSIA or USSA dogma. It does not mean that bio mechanically it is not critically important. Less informed Coaches and Instructors will tell the student to just "start the turn by tipping the skis with your feet", but that is literally impossible if you do not tilt your pelvic bone. Coaches and Instructors that correctly tell you what to do, without helping you figure out HOW are a dime a dozen.
The reality is some athletes naturally and effortlessly do this "tilt" to facilitate early phase tipping. Those are the naturals who can make use of poorly informed coaching ("just start the turn by tipping the skis with your feet"). They are the lucky ones. But other athletes, due to weak gluteus medius muscles, lack of muscle activation, or injury, can not hip level without actively concentrating on it. This makes it very hard to properly initiate a turn, especially on long radius FIS skis. For those skiers, you have to actively teach the motion. If one of these skiers is coached or instructed by a typical coach, they will likely never get over this problem because the root issue, inability to tilt, will not be recognized.
The other thing I hear all the time is "be patient". "You have to wait for that new ski to start the turn". That is more BS by typical coaches who are preaching the dogma. With a 30m+ radius FIS ski in the first few gates you do not have time to be patient. These skiers are likely struggling due to lack of hip tilt. It is easy to diagnose. Just put them on 30m+ skis, point them down hill, and tell them to make edge to edge carved turns "slalom quick". The ones that can do it are actively hip hiking to amplify that foot generated ski tilt. The ones that start doing old fashioned skidded late phase loading are the ones who need to work on hip leveling / tilt.
Personally, I learned this because of a serious injury which greatly restricted/resisted my pelvic bone "tilting" motion in one direction. The result was the initiation of my right turn, especially on longer radius skis was terrible. Not a single coach helped me figure this out. They all told me to "tip my feet" and "widen my stance". And when I got inside, and started to lose the outside ski early in the turn, they simply told me to "stop doing that". OK..HOW? They were all useless. I even asked one of them, a former USST coach (from the 1990s era), about active hip hiking at the start of the turn, and he dismissed it. But when I tried it, actually did it, he said..."that looks great...so much better". HE LITERALLY COULD NOT SEE WHAT I WAS DOING TO FIX THE ISSUE.
@@shooter7a and you have never heard the words: “hip hike” come out of Shiffrin’s or any WC racer’s mouth. You are a sucker of modern instruction marketing which is mostly crap that ignores the fundamentals.
@@AtomicB-zq2cwthen why is there a video of her practicing it? Did you even watch Dyksterhouse's video? I am pretty sure a USST tech coach knows more than you. There is absolutely nothing about Brandon's coaching tip, the video, that has to do with "modern instruction marketing". You are a buffoon who should learn something about biomechanics.
@@AtomicB-zq2cw
ua-cam.com/video/DG_Dg7_NIt0/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/ynNRGUaYQkM/v-deo.html
3 Olympic Gold Medals between them....LOL. One demonstrating inside hip high pelvic bone tilt in drills....and one coaching it. I do not think you know as much as you think you know.
This is one of the secret moves of modern skiing that no on talks about.
I love your response here. I'm a high level skier living in Whistler, BC for the past 30 years and a former ski instructor. I've been struggling for literally 25 years with very unpredictable performance in my skiing. Some days I absolutely rip all over the mountain and feel super locked in and able to do no wrong and then the next day I'd be skidding around with barely any edge angle like an intermediate trying to replicate whatever "magic moves" I was doing the day before. I knew it had something to do with my hip tilt but I could never replicate those good feelings day after day. I was always trying to fix the issue by working from the feet up and just tipping my ankles and knees over more to start the turn. Once I started to consciously focus on getting that lateral pelvic tilt by lifting my inside hip and out of the way using my gluteus medius (glut med) then my edge angle increased effortlessly. I'm SO HAPPY to have discovered what I always sensed was the problem somehow. It's so true that so many "gifted" high level skiers do this effortlessly without thinking about it and probably can't even tell you that they're doing it. It's one of THE key moves in skiing but the move is often neglected in instruction & coaching because the very best skiers don't even realize they're doing it so how can they teach it.@@shooter7a
apriril 1 to angulate you inclaine hips legs down--- uphill hip up upper body down hill insaide hip squere to down hill ski without any ankles knees forwart flex flat skis durning lateral movment edge set after complete hips inclainedl legs uphill flexing pelvis to angulate you finish on down hill ski you start new turn without up movment you are total opposite you start turn from uphill ski dumping legs hips upper body as one unit flexing insaide leg downto prevent falling uphill raight way is i swing may uphill hip up same taime upper body hip down hill insaide hip back reverse hip steering right turn rotate right hip back left turn rotete left hip back leading w.c.racers have hips range 45 degrees forwart 60 degrees backwart all of them rotate back durning lateral transition squre insaide hip to outsaide ski staple angulatet upper body begginink of the turn not end