Support for these features should be open and standard so everyone can make use of them... hope OpenPleb improves the situation... The ecosystem looks promising, but being vendor-locked, again is not that appealing imo
@@bryandowns9910what? People mix and match brands all the time… we sell components and build pcs for clients and they ALWAYS mix like 3 or 4 brands of rgb stuff. We try to convince them to use all the same brand to avoid having 6 billion rgb software installed but the client want what they want. Saying that people only buy 1 brand may be true for enthusiasts but it’s certainly NOT true for the average Joe. Fans are only like 10% of the problem.
Jay your icue link was not working with the aio daisy chained becquse you had 8 devices connected. Not because the aio pump was draining too much power. Its 7 devices per channel with a total of 14 devices for the hub.
It is all magnetic Jay says. Being an OG PC user myself, it is amazing how we can say that these days. I remember having to keep magnets away from PCs and parts as they are very destructive to them. Yeah the cables are a huge issue. This product stack looks really cool!
@@carnifex8 weak magnets like that are fine, heck even strong magnets don't do a whole lot if they are a few inches of distance. Btw there is a very strong neodymium magnet inside all hard drives so they are not THAT weak to magnets. They are not magnetic tape
This a very nice update from corsair. As some others mentioned, this would also be ideal for the non rgb stuff, if you have alot of fans in the system, being able to daisy chain them would be great!
Definitely a game changer. Been using the Corsair iCue ecosystem for a little while, and for myself and my friends, they work great. Next PC build, I'm thinking of using the new Corsair Link products.
Hey Jay, I also noticed (and confirmed from the product page) that each of their qx fans comes with an integrated temperature sensor in each fan. To a temp/noise/airflow nut like myself this is EXTREMELY exciting to see. Might want to mention this too. Great stuff!
Several others are doing similar. Same with click together fans. I wish they'd all got together to make sure of compatiblity, but it is great to have the choices!
plz- can you explain to me how this sensor is useful and in what situation? cuz all i see here is trying to push a software to be hardware so the fan will cost more. (the heat dosnt come from the fan- the rpm can be triggered auto by a software and even the temp sensor is located in a place where he is most unsufull) am i missing somthing here?
I would find the integrated temperature sensor useful but the "FLASHY" LED a waste of money. I'm am practical. I build the fastest computer possible with as little money as possible wasted on flashy LED's. If there is fans that have a temperature sensor without the flashy LED than I would consider it an useful installion option.
Two part answer here - having access to data is nice. What you do with it is up to you so you can choose to use it or not use it. Your comment about doing it to charge more, maybe so but isn't the point of a business to make money? I can't really fault them for that as long as they still keep budget options for people looking for budget fans, which I think they do. If you don't want to pay for a premium fan, don't buy it :) Anyway as far as usefulness, part of my fan control strategy is to monitor the temp of the air going into the case and leaving the case (currently use dedicated temp sensors) as well as going into the gpu etc. So being able to access the temps of air going into the case, through the rad, out of the case, etc. gives me a little more visibility about the airflow conditions in the case. Again, I'm not trying to say this is the best method or what's "right," it's just what I do. As far as the flashiness, if you're buying these fans you probably don't mind paying an extra $10 for an LED you won't use. But I get it. Just keep in mind having all the fans have LEDs might make the fans cheaper since they can run the whole volume through one process instead of running a fraction of the volume through two different processes. So there's economy of scale there. Anyway, just some thoughts.
I'm with you. It's very neat and would make sense for just powering fans, though I think I'd rather my motherboard control the AIO pump and fans over corsairs software.
From someone who's been enjoying RGB, I do support the non-LED version too. I mean yes, all you have to do is turn off the RGB, but at the same time, how much money would you save if the fans didn't have the feature? Hope companies would listen to you guys.
I'm not sure if LED is that much more expensive to manufacture. I think they just market it as more expensive because people project that superficial label on it. That said, it doesn't change the premium cost of it.
I personally use OpenRGB with a mixture of RGB fans/hubs/perphs, I dislike being bound to just one brand due to them not wanting you to use anything but their stuff.
@@lamikal2515 Given the Mega Price, I guess youre right... Yet if they DID embrace an open standard (and slash the price some) they'd SELL LOADS and BECOME the standard We can hope? ;)
Well, yeah @@ralphie1313 - the trick is we dont ALL go out and buy 'em but just ENOUGH of us do to keep them in production - when they drop to a more sensible price we start grabbing 'em ... And yes, bling is cute, but I can wait :)
Instead of using their own connectors and making the walled garden solution, they could have just utilized USB-C connector. Making each fan into a small USB-C device and hub. And then follow standards and made it compatible with everything. USB-C now supports higher voltages and power delivery, so 12v wouldn't be a problem. It can also carry data and display signals - no need to re-implement the wheel and make proprietary standards. Price wise would be the same, but flexibility would be unbeatable. Instead of going with their controllers, you could just put a USB-c hub into your computer and you'd be good to go. Also, there's no Linux version on official website for their software... So yeah, in theory it's good, but they could have made it much much better.
Adding miriad of hubs in the computer seems to want to create issues, you are still limited to 7 tiers in USB 3.0. Carrying thunderbolt - the price def will go up. I'll keep my cooling functional.
I really dont think this matters at all because regardless of the connector its only going to work with Corsair's products. Since it only works with their fans and hub it doesn't matter what the connector is.
You could just use the pinout for linking, 20pins to work with gives 4pins for rgb, 2pins for power, 14pins for control and pwm return. If they went data +power with processing on the fan you can hit 127device addresses.
Problem with USB C is they are not all created equal. Only certain cables can handle 100 watts of power. While i can not find power specs for the new Link system it would by all means appear to be power hungry since it is powered by a 6 pin PCIe connector so we are looking at a max of 75 watts or 6.25 amps at 12 volts. I wonder how much juice 13 fans, 1 water pump and over 416 LED's pull? I also get that they want you using their product hence the proprietary plug. Just about every manufacturer out there does this but it would be nice to have just 1 plug so you could mix and match as you please.
Great content Jay! My issue is that as cool as this new tech is, it still has the "proprietary" problem meaning, no openness, no open source and no Linux support. So even if I had the money, I still could not support it because it's useless for me as a primary Linux user. I still applaud the effort of Corsair tho.
How does this get back to a system like in the AX1600i PSU where they could just discontinue the software and get rid of the cohesiveness of the products installed
I suspected such issue would be prominent with linux. OpenRGB tries to address this, but... it's, not really able to support it all sadly. I guess our best bet is to dual boot, for, freaking RGB... *urh*
Would love to see an open-loop build with the new fans & hub mixed with some of the older Corsair stuff, like the JTC water block and a pump/res combo, and see how well they work together/what cable mess might still be needed for the older gear
fwiw, I'm currently running the new h170i AIO with link, and 6 140mm QL fans with a commander core. I haven't had any issues. The AIO was inadvertently purchased as a gift for me (wanted the normal one), but I decided to switch over to the new ecosystem going forward. As Jay said, I'm not really happy with the prices of everything, especially the cables. hopefully the prices come down a bit, or there will be some sales.
Im sold. Gimme it NOW. It was a headache getting my current PC setup with all Corsair fans and AIOs of different models. This would solve ALL the issues I have with Corsair stuff. Well done, Corsair team.
I always avoided corsair when it came to fans/argb and controllers and everything just because of the absolute mess it was. Now I might lean towards them just because of the simplicity and quality of it all. Love it! Thanks Jay and crew!
This would be good in a non-RGB variant as well in terms of simplifying cable management and limited fan headers. Even my last build with something like half a dozen headers needed a couple y-splitters for fans.
Small clarification on the 160 LED limit. It's not that the 5 Volts do not provide enough "Volts" for more (the LEDs are chained in parallel, the Voltage doesn't drop) but it draws to much current for the wires at the source, so it's actually too much power for the system. Again, you don't "run out" of voltage. The new 12V system just allows for more power while keeping the same wire gauge.
Power = Voltage * current. more voltage means less current needed. also 12v is probably partially due to the new ATX12v thing (which I hope doesn't become a thing since motherboards and their manufacturers are already annoying enough as it is)
Doing some digging it seems like 5V3pin headers on mobos these days are 3A rating, and I've heard through the grapevine that it best not to max that out which means for certain fans with RGB (400-600mA) you can put like 4 daisy chained together on one header safely unless an alternate power source is introduced, which is exactly why Lian Li's system allows up to 4 fans per daisy chain even when it is plugged into their hub, because those fans can be plugged into the mobo directly. (and maybe the hub with the 7 pin connectors have a the same limit per header, IDK)
I wonder how much juice this new link system pulls. I mean 13 fans, 1 water pump and over 416 LED's and uses a 6 pin PCIe connector which is 75 watts or 6.25 amps.
Really appreciate you making an in depth look at iCue Link, Jay, even with all the Computex hype that they put out and their shorts that showed off the product. I don't appreciate the price, but I can understand that this thing is overengineered, and the price is reflecting that, so I think it's up to the consumer to vote with their wallet. Granted, Corsair makes pretty good cooling solutions for PCs, so they're likely to receive a lot of support for a completely redesigned product. As for the layout, I'm pretty sure each branch from the control module only supports up to 7 devices, so you can have two triples of fans and an AIO on the front of the case from one lead, then a triple and a single coming from the other lead. There's also the option to use a push-pull configuration on the AIO for the front, but you lose out on having another set of fans in the second intake unless you buy a second control box (if you're loading the thing to bear). Anyway, I'm probably going to take a hard look at these for my next build, but with the cost being more than Lian Li's Uni fans, I'll have to weigh the options.
That's correct, each port can drive 7 devices. So the "low-power mode" issue wasn't because the CPU block uses much more power, it's just that it was the 8th device on that port(3 top fans, 1 rear fan, 3 radiator fans, 1 cpu block).
So this is like Lian-Li's Unifan solution. I just wish they had been forward thinking enough to make the Strimer cables compatible with the controllers for the Unifan ecosystem, And yes, please support Steve and Wendell's OpenPleb project. After 20 years of case lighting in various forms, it is LONG overdue for us to get some form of standardization.
@@harlech2 feel free to disagree, I was just being an ass for the fun of it lol. the Lian Li fans are cool too it's just a shame/ironic they're not truely uniform, but without a unified standard across all mnufcturers that was always going to be a low hanging fruit to make a joke on. so long as you like them that's all that matters
@@glebglub No, no... not going to disagree... just to be an ass lol. Did you catch the article that Steve from GN and Gordon from PCWorld did on OpenPleb? It addresses essentially this very issue.
@@harlech2 I didn't catch the artcile but I saw the video of Steve & Wendell talking about it at least. from dotting around the comments it seems Corsair is up for licensing their solution, but whether they'll make it open source is up for debate. hopefully they do but time will tell. honestly it doesn't affect me directly either way, I'm more interested in those metal fans by AlphaCool (Apex Stealth?) which are meant to sound as loud as Corsair's fans@900 RPM whilst running at 2900RPM, so I know what fans I'll be spending £30 on, if/when they do a 140mm version (and if they sit flush against a radiator to prevent air bleeding out the sides, but for that there's duct tape). I'll take silent operation over blinky lights any day to keep my tinitus at bay
Love the idea, and I think Corsair did a great job. But make it an open standard. The LAST thing the industry needs is more e-waste from proprietary fans, etc. Hell, I'll be nice and even say they can recoup their investment first, but once they've gotten that, make it open source.
Nice, Corsair took from Lian Li and Thermaltake to create a very nice hybrid, of course it'll cost twice as much but no one will notice lol. Great video! Can't wait to see if these will last longer than the 90 days my LL120 sets did.
Last time I built a PC (4-5 years ago now....) I chose all Corsair for anything RGD so I'd only have 1 RGB control program on my desktop (the only spot I didn't get Corsair was my Motherboard which was ASRock). After seeing this I'm thinking Corsair may have my next build as well.
I would really love if they brought this system to a non-RGB variant - the cables, all in a single connector - that's an amazing idea and it would be awesome to see that brought to more budget friendly options (or for folks not wanting RBG on everything). Just a very clean way to wire things up.
I agree. Although rgb is fun but just like me, you eventually grow out of it and realise there are way better performing fans for a fraction of the price. I filled up my PC with thermaltake toughfans (was going for noctua nf-a12 but was way too expensive, at least here in Australia) and honestly Its totally worth it.
@@BigMoneyButters If you need more then 14 devices connected for rgb - you can get a 2nd controller hub which would make it so you can use upto 28 devices.
In my case, I used the Commander Core XT with 5 fans(2 140 ML and 3 120 LL), 2 temp sensors and 2 RGB strips. Works fine in my case now. I used to use the other commander core and the nightmare that was lowered my desire to work with Corsair fans in the future. I was truly hoping the announcement would have applied to all of their current fans and whatnot, but when i saw it was going to be more expensive fans and more proprietary connections, I knew i was done with it. Not gonna trash Corsair or anything, seeing that my system is mostly Corsair anyways. But I guess for now Ill wait till either something craps out or Corsair makes "cheaper fans." /s
I love Jays reaction when he sees the rats nest of wires at the beginning of the video. I will never get over that. Have seen that reaction like 5 times and laugh every time. Love you guys
I just really like that after Lian Li had the great idea of connecting fans to each other with the Uni fan; that now others are creating their own version. so nice for the cable management.
As someone who primarily uses and likes Corsair's products, I am excited to see this solution. Once I saw Lian Li's Unifan back when they released, I was like, "I wish Corsair would come up with a solution like this because cable management is a pain." It is a bit pricey but I'll certainly pay it for that amount of ease.
Agreed. I happily dropped for 2 triple packs of QX fans, an additional QX fan for exhaust, and an h150i aio. If it can clean up my cabling, i'll happily pay corsair to reduce the labor I have to put in to maintaining and upgrading my PC - more time for my games
Stuff like this is the whole reason I bought a PC. Not just because it's more powerful than the Xbox and Playstation, but because of how involved you are with your system, it really feels personal and I love it. Plus no stupid subscriptions and more access to multiple "exclusives" and indie
Love the idea, wish there was a bit more openness, or at least more integration into the ecosystem for lighting from motherboard/case/gpu manufactures to get one lighting control for everything. While I saw from the initial details they had available you can have 7 devices on each channel from the hub, 14 total, it would be interesting to hear a review of the cooling on the AIO, as well as their pumps and water blocks that will be part of the ecosystem.
It's definitely about knowing your customer base. I've never built a personnel rig that's had RGB lighting, I've never seen any use for it. But many people love it and for those who do, I'm sure they'll find this quite attractive.
Given that even with the past couple of revisions of their pre-Link AIOs they've eventually introduced models with less RGB, I'm optimistic that they'll do something similar in the Link product lines. But I'm not surprised they introduced the flashier parts first. After all, improved RGB management is part of this new ecosystem, they want to show it off from the get-go.
Though this isn't a true fix due to the extraordinarily high price tag, it will hopefully be a start for more budget brands to implement the same tech.
I just bought this AIO with the LCD screen hub and two 3 packs of fans for my new build! I've always been a Corsair fanboy and while iCue has its issues, the sheer amount of cables in a case with a 360 AIO and 6 fans (9 fans total) was absolutely insane! I'm so excited to get this all set up!
I just purchased the fans with the link hub. I wasn’t too happy that the extreme profile was not ramping fan up to 100% under load. But building a custom fan curve fixed it. So overall I love it. Fans are much smoother and quieter. Doesn’t sound as choppy as my old fans did when they ramped up. New AIO is next whenever I have a little extra cash. And by the way the wiring is so so so much easier to setup and much cleaner too.
Love the idea, sure would have been tempted at $30-$35 a fan, but this is too much. But I'm surprised the AIO isn't around $350 to be honest. Hope the other brands will catch up quickly.
I feel like the AIO is the entry point. I thought the price fair too... however the cynic in me thinks that all AIO's go to it locking you into the ecosystem.
If you're interested, I just did a little bit of digging, and there was already something close : Thermaltake Swafan. They are magnetic, they have a similar system of 1 cable for 3 fans (that I know of, maybe more) they blow 53 CFM and they are sold with a reverse helix if you want to reverse the flow of the fan to not have the amature of the fan ruining the RGB. And they are around $90 for 3 fans + 3 reverse helix + 1 hub. Tell me if I'm wrong but I guess I made my choice.
Glad to see they are updating. I have 10 Corsair RGB fans in my case and I am about to replace all of them with Lian Li 120 Infinity fans for just the reasons you mentioned. Also I'm not nuts about the iCue software. It keeps losing communication with the RGB on my Corsair AIO. Anyway, I'm anxious to see how this change works out.
This is something that tempts me for my next full-loop system to use Corsair Link fans on EK rads, if Corsair partnered with EK to add Link to EK blocks and pump/res combos that'd be dream state for me. It's expensive, but that's to be expected with a first-gen release like this new stuff, hopefully over time prices come down.
I wonder where you're supposed to connect the Corsair lighting strip in this new world. I fear that you will still need to use the CommanderPro and lighting nodes for that.
this is amazing! its missing one thing in my opinion, reversable fan blades. I hate the cage on the back when you need to flip it around for input on the bottom of a case
it's that way on purpose - it prevents dust getting into the hub/motor. fans built like that would last like 3 months before having to take them apart completely so stop them rattling/grinding/overheating, bearings breaking, hydro-fluid bearings needing to be re-juiced, and whatever else I can't think of right now (and also high pressure causing the fan blades to just fly off and be unstable anyway lol) the closest you'd maybe come by is having the plastic be transluscent/transparent, if plastics reliably sturdy enough for the structural strength + not blocking flow by being thin with the visual property exist
Really great video Jay. Enjoyed the content, but I have criticisms aimed at the product itself. Fun names are great and everything, but we really don’t need even more proprietary connectors. This doesn’t fix anything other than issues Corsair introduced themselves, with another system that locks you into it… which will probably run into the same issue again when they come up with yet another aio with a new connector.
im honestly surprised corsair didn't do this a long time ago. Considering that Lian Li had the daisy chain fans and made using fans a HELL of a lot easier. my case has 9 corsair fans and i ended up removing 3 because it was just way too many cables and the hub couldn’t fit all of them.
@@ArctecGemini Stock RGB is an "ARGB" pin connector on Mobo. It drives a single bios-set RGB profile to any fans connected to it via splitters. Not sure what the device number cap is on that, depends on number of LEDs.
@@FedjaHvastija And this wire with the splitters it comes with the mobo right? Sorry im gonna do my first build in the near future and im trying to learn all i can 😅
maybe it was the plan, but like how Noctua spent 5 years designing a FAN, Corsair wanted to make sure to do it right. the fact you can power a water pump on the daisy chain is a testament to that imo
Jay! Got to get on you for something. 5v vs 12v doesn’t means anything on length of LED run. Thats the amperage of the line. If you have a 5v 2a PS a string of 160 LEDs is about the end. But if you change it out to a 5v 10a. You have have double. Voltage doesn’t mean anything. As someone that runs LEDs with ARGB lines.. and WLED micro controller.. sometimes you can also just add more power to the end via power injection. But again. The voltage doesn’t matter. Ok. Sorry. Go on! Love ya!
These people dont remember the nightmare that the early 90s and earlier were regarding the proprietary hell of connecting anything to do with a PC. You want more apple BS? Because this is how you get more Apple BS.
This looks absolutely amazing! With how simple this looks, I wouldn’t mind spending $200 on the kit! 3 fans, hub controller, and less cabling?! I’m happy for Corsair coming out with a product that makes it super easy for everyone at any pc building level to install in their pc! 💙
Hey Jay, this looks great, they had to play catch up with other manufacturers and the wires look perfect. Corsair fans are beautiful, but they don't blow and thereby cool anywhere close to other brands you've shown. If Corsair can make the fans so they actually move enough air for the price they charge, then they'll have something here. RGB and cable management are important to me, but cooling is the most important thing for everyone. Again, I refer to the price. I think I know why they named it after food items. They just got done smoking some serious weed and had the munchies That can be the only reason for those prices.
I was holding out for this, but damn! I knew it would carry a premium, but $50 per fan and no cable is crazy. Having said that I think the AIO is actually decent value for what you get
lmao corsair is out here raping the fanboys on prices. after my experience with corsair's high end products in the past, i wouldn't buy their fans if they were ten bucks a piece and had twice as many lights inside
6:27 yoooooooooo i am just like nick like WHAT?!?!?! SO GLAD YOUY DID THIS REVIEW! this was the last peice of my new build puzzle for super fun enthusiest memery and this could be truly game changing lets goooooo
23:07 sweet freaking gosh jay i have never geeked out so hard seeing you put that stuff otgether and how cool it loosk and how nice they did with the softrware. this will deffinitly be a shake up to the market nad my only hope s that i can get the 3 fan set, and the 3 fan AIO before they sell out XDXDXD but hoenstly thanks agin for the vid cause this is exactly what my heart nedeed even if my wallet will kill me hahaha~ im the idiot over here trying to cheap out on my GPU fto save 200$ with a 7800xt or 96950xt instead of a 4070 ti because i dont like how team green does business, buuuuuuuut id also drop 300$ EASILY on a system this fucking interesting hahaha cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers I CAN FINALLY BE A FAN AND LIGHTING NERD AGAIN LOL
The new system is amazing, but excessively expensive. The next step is for each brand to make its own version and hopefully in a few years there will be a universal system more accessible to everyone.
I don't use RGB but I love to see this. I'd love it even more if Corsair document how the hardware works and make it available to users who wish to write software that interfaces with it on Linux and other systems.
I think the 14 devices have to be split between the two connectors at the hub. Like 7 on each or something, like you had 7 fans and a pump, though it is still fine, as 14 devices is a lot of stuff, with minimal cluttuer... I think this is good.
Yes, it's 14 devices per hub, but only 7 devices on each of the two channels for that hub. That part of the video actually answers one question I had when I first saw iCUE Link introduced, whether a triple-fan AIO counts as 1 device or 4(one pump and three fans), guess the answer is 4, which I suppose does make sense.
Looks interesting but I'm not sold on proprietary system with just another cable.... atleas they sell cables separately in case you need the other one. But we will see :) Looking forward to seeing you build with that.
As someone who just built 3 computers using commander core XTs... i wish that i had this new setup! It would have taken me a hell of a lot less time to connect, and route, all of the "cables!" When replacement comes, i will def. be looking at this new setup! Hopefully it will be cheaper by then!
I saw an ad for this not too long ago and I decided to wait for this to be available to finally buy a 360mm AIO. Once I've got that, like you said, I'm into the ecosystem and I can just get the other fans I need to revamp my PC's cooling and lights.
Being one of the current Corsair customers, I love this! However, again being in the current system, it's way too hard to switch to something like this at the moment. Their normal stuff is horrible when it comes to wires, but it's still really nice and isn't cheap. It's still a waste of money to switch from what I have right now (8 QL fans, aio, and 3 hubs/controllers) when I already spent so much on the current offer from Corsair. Essentially, I'd have to swap my $580ish Corsair setup for another overpriced Corsair LINK setup. If I was building a new PC, I'd definitely consider this but it may be worth while to wait since it's a brand new product. Brand new, first gen technology usually have their problems when initially released. They usually get improvements and cheaper when the next round of products come out. Maybe when my AIO eventually dies, I'd buy into a new link AIO but its not worth trading the current offering Corsair has if everything is working fine. But cleaning the pc will be a lot easier with the new link stuff because I don't even bother doing it very much right now since I hate the spaghetti cables 😂😂😂😂
its gonna be way to expensive to switch to the new stuff for anyone with water cooling. I need 10 fans, so 3 starter packs and a single. the starter packs are 160, and the single fans are 40. Thats 520 just for the fans. The its gonna be 200 for the waterblocks, and probably 40 per extension cable, so im looking at like $600 or more just to swap out and get rid of some cables. thats an entire build.
Jay, you're missing the point... The issue is having to deal with different standards for each component, a new freaking closed standard that only works with a specific lineup of a specific brand is not the fix!!!!
Alright they got me, I looked it up right away. It’s going to be about 500 all in and I’ve never been an AIO fan but this looks great and clean definitely Christmas gift to self
just bought 12 of these fans for my pc. cant wait for them to arrive and have a nice and super clean build. cable management with the old fans was such a pain!
Great timing on Corsairs part, because Im building a new PC and I went kind of crazy with my fans, as the fans and their lighting are kind of meant to be the focal point inside the case. I went with the AIO plus 2 of the three fan kits and 1 additional fan for a total of 10 fans and some additional cables. This setup cost about 750 bucks, so it's not cheap going this route, but I think its going to be well worth it for what I want. Now Im just waiting "impatiently" for the stuff to arrive.
too many comments later, but i dont want to be some preaching corsair simp, but ive just naturally gravitated toward their rgb ram, esp the SL, and now with my full new build i dont want to deal with a bulky tower cooler after enjoying the slim wraith box cooler for so long, but my 5800x3d deserves something that even i cant fuck up. a 3 fan AIO might be over kill but i think itd look amazing mounted on top of my system as an exhaust if i can do it right even though the leak potential over the next 5-10 years terrifies me. so i have a lot of research to go, but aslong as the QUALIOTY of this stuff holds up for its PRICE and the absurdly satifying long term ecosystem i can nerd the hell out to in the future holds up? i could easily see myself with 7 fans and an AIO in my final build 10000%. just gotta wait till i decide how much to dump on my GPU cause itll either be ALOT or itll be way behidn the usual enthusiast tier, but ill just have cosmetic MTX $$$$ instead lmfaooooooo
Just did my entire new build with LINK kit, and I LOVE IT. Corsair really outdid themselves. I do hope to see this kind of system become universal but Corsair just spent a lot of RND money flipping the script on system RGB and cooling. I’ll spend the money for that kind of cable management, side LEDs, and solid cooling with alerts. My 13900k and 4080 now have the home they deserve
Died at the INFINITE POWER clip. This looks sweet. Love anything Corsair anyway (except for the iCue software as of late, (won't even install on a fresh install of Windows due to some location / country error) but regardless, love their stuff.
It's not cheap, it's not a cheap product, it's premium, it's first to market and it's well constructed. Refreshing to see a quality product and innovation. Nice one Corsair.
I'm really looking forward to this and, quite frankly, as someone who already has Corsair fans, I'd seriously consider changing my current fan set up out for the ease of use (and troubleshooting) this new link presents. The main thing I hate about current Corsair fans are, like you say, the ridiculous number of wires... and trying to remember which wire I labelled as which fan!
Circled back to this video because it was mentioned in yhe newer one and i missed this one. I just bout two of the 140mm. I tried the original trying to get it set up and fit is what had me buildimg my pc for 24hrs straight and still had to remove and return it. Im excited to try this
I'm completely sold. I've been waiting for a replacement for their wiring that makes sense. Now I can upgrade the 12 LL120's in my case and the three commander pro's and however many rgb hubs. This will prep me for a full custom loop later.
Challenging you like from Blood Sport for the comment you made about how easy it is to remove the fan @ 13:30ish in the video. "Break the bottom brick Frank." In this case, "Take off the middle fan Jay." 🤣 Back to the product review, I don't think I'm updating my corsair ecosystem unless I'm rebuilding a new pc from the ground up. LL120 white 3pack fans at the time when I bought 2x was $130 each. Then I had to get a commander pro $50. Then I got a 360 AIO from them $200 at the time which came with a commander core. Then I got 1 single fan for the rear of the case to match the system fans $30 individually. Don't forget the LED controller had to be used too on previous generation LL120s (before commander core was released). $510 BEFORE sales tax on just fans alone + 1 AIO for ONE system. (I have 3 total in my household) My wifes pc has commander pro + the led controllers. (donated parts from my black LL120s + O11 Mini in Black) My current build has commander pro + commander core. (white LL120s + O11 Evo in White)
Biscuit connector makes sense because if you actually think about the connections between each fan, its exactly like a biscuit you would use in woodworking and jointing.
Yes, it's expensive but if it works the way it's supposed to then it's well worth the simplicity, management, and reduced cable mess. I've already ordered the 140mm fan kit and 2 additional 140mm fans to go in my 7000D Airflow, and once the custom colling pieces come out, I'll likely replace my current Hydro-X parts with them as well.
Jay having to search for the screws for the rear fan is actually good. It shows a realistic time for the average joe, because let's honest, most of us are going to misplace the screws just like this.
These at 160 vs lian li ones at 100 (3 pack with controller), yeah they are not cheap but because now we are seeing more options and more competition i wanna see how much the price can improve, they are premium products but at that price idk if they make more sense than buying the lian li options
I really hope that corsair opens this all up to the "openpleb" so that it is more open source and others can use it because this is amazing and could be a really good standard
2 years ago I built a 9 fan corsair QL fan system and let me tell you what a nightmare that was with the commander and all the cables you needed to use, can't wait to build my next pc with this system of fans.
Definitely gonna consider going with this system for my next build (whenever that may be). I just wonder if Corsair couldn't have just made the cables be a standard USB-C instead of something proprietary.
18:26 okay okay okay THIS right here just sold it for me 😮 - I HAAAAATE having those janky cables running out the AIO block, so getting rid of those for ONE cable at the rad end .. 🤯 👏
This is amazing! I have 2 fans that have been broken fur weeks with the new fans sitting on top of my pc. I keep putting it off because it's going to be a nightmare. If I had this setup, they would have been replaced the day they were delivered. 😀
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Support for these features should be open and standard so everyone can make use of them... hope OpenPleb improves the situation... The ecosystem looks promising, but being vendor-locked, again is not that appealing imo
This would be a good standard to make the “universal standard”. I mean USB-C came from intel’s thunderbolt
I would love it if Corsair opened the standards. All the other companies have open-ish standards.
@@bryandowns9910what? People mix and match brands all the time… we sell components and build pcs for clients and they ALWAYS mix like 3 or 4 brands of rgb stuff. We try to convince them to use all the same brand to avoid having 6 billion rgb software installed but the client want what they want.
Saying that people only buy 1 brand may be true for enthusiasts but it’s certainly NOT true for the average Joe.
Fans are only like 10% of the problem.
This is even worse than vendor locked, but vendor product lineup specific. You may have CORSAIR fans, but if is not the link fan, you are out of luck.
@bryandowns9910 Build systems for over two decades, you ebd up with a lot of different components.
Jay your icue link was not working with the aio daisy chained becquse you had 8 devices connected. Not because the aio pump was draining too much power. Its 7 devices per channel with a total of 14 devices for the hub.
It is all magnetic Jay says. Being an OG PC user myself, it is amazing how we can say that these days. I remember having to keep magnets away from PCs and parts as they are very destructive to them. Yeah the cables are a huge issue. This product stack looks really cool!
I still remember finally figuring out having my speakers next to my CRT caused my gauss issues. Magnets were evil then.
my dad still yells at me for de-gauzing the brand new 32" CRT back in '97.
...and then the next day ruining the PC with the same magnet.
these magnets are very weak
Arent the magnets still not good having near/in your PC? Magnetic properties did not disappear anywhere you know :D
@@carnifex8 weak magnets like that are fine, heck even strong magnets don't do a whole lot if they are a few inches of distance. Btw there is a very strong neodymium magnet inside all hard drives so they are not THAT weak to magnets. They are not magnetic tape
This a very nice update from corsair. As some others mentioned, this would also be ideal for the non rgb stuff, if you have alot of fans in the system, being able to daisy chain them would be great!
Definitely a game changer. Been using the Corsair iCue ecosystem for a little while, and for myself and my friends, they work great.
Next PC build, I'm thinking of using the new Corsair Link products.
A bit late but im gonna get 2 3 packs of the qx120s for my king 95 and remove the fans that came with the case
Hey Jay, I also noticed (and confirmed from the product page) that each of their qx fans comes with an integrated temperature sensor in each fan. To a temp/noise/airflow nut like myself this is EXTREMELY exciting to see. Might want to mention this too. Great stuff!
Several others are doing similar. Same with click together fans. I wish they'd all got together to make sure of compatiblity, but it is great to have the choices!
plz- can you explain to me how this sensor is useful and in what situation? cuz all i see here is trying to push a software to be hardware so the fan will cost more.
(the heat dosnt come from the fan- the rpm can be triggered auto by a software and even the temp sensor is located in a place where he is most unsufull) am i missing somthing here?
I would find the integrated temperature sensor useful but the "FLASHY" LED a waste of money. I'm am practical. I build the fastest computer possible with as little money as possible wasted on flashy LED's. If there is fans that have a temperature sensor without the flashy LED than I would consider it an useful installion option.
Two part answer here - having access to data is nice. What you do with it is up to you so you can choose to use it or not use it. Your comment about doing it to charge more, maybe so but isn't the point of a business to make money? I can't really fault them for that as long as they still keep budget options for people looking for budget fans, which I think they do. If you don't want to pay for a premium fan, don't buy it :)
Anyway as far as usefulness, part of my fan control strategy is to monitor the temp of the air going into the case and leaving the case (currently use dedicated temp sensors) as well as going into the gpu etc. So being able to access the temps of air going into the case, through the rad, out of the case, etc. gives me a little more visibility about the airflow conditions in the case. Again, I'm not trying to say this is the best method or what's "right," it's just what I do. As far as the flashiness, if you're buying these fans you probably don't mind paying an extra $10 for an LED you won't use. But I get it. Just keep in mind having all the fans have LEDs might make the fans cheaper since they can run the whole volume through one process instead of running a fraction of the volume through two different processes. So there's economy of scale there. Anyway, just some thoughts.
@@danielrivas4471 the fans should be cheaper as is. these fans should not be so much more expensive then a lian li, or corsairs other fans.
I like the concept, I just hope they come out with a non-LED version for those of us who like a stealth build and/or want to save $$$.
I'm with you. It's very neat and would make sense for just powering fans, though I think I'd rather my motherboard control the AIO pump and fans over corsairs software.
They are working on a "performance" version that sounds like will be a non-RGB version of these fans.
From someone who's been enjoying RGB, I do support the non-LED version too. I mean yes, all you have to do is turn off the RGB, but at the same time, how much money would you save if the fans didn't have the feature? Hope companies would listen to you guys.
I love corsair, using k70 mk2 and ddr4 first gen rgb ram. But lets be honest their fans are big clutter. Finally they fixed it.
I'm not sure if LED is that much more expensive to manufacture. I think they just market it as more expensive because people project that superficial label on it. That said, it doesn't change the premium cost of it.
I personally use OpenRGB with a mixture of RGB fans/hubs/perphs, I dislike being bound to just one brand due to them not wanting you to use anything but their stuff.
I hope that corsair partners with with openpleb project from L1T and GN with this
@@reru_personal Yeah, good luck with that : if there is one company that have interest in locking you up in their ecosystem, it's Corsair.
@@lamikal2515 Given the Mega Price, I guess youre right... Yet if they DID embrace an open standard (and slash the price some) they'd SELL LOADS and BECOME the standard
We can hope? ;)
Don't you think in 6 months or so the price will come down?
Well, yeah @@ralphie1313 - the trick is we dont ALL go out and buy 'em but just ENOUGH of us do to keep them in production - when they drop to a more sensible price we start grabbing 'em ... And yes, bling is cute, but I can wait :)
I love the excited nerdiness Jay has when he's showing us live how easy it is to add/modify fans.
This exists for a while now
I want something that can regulate every fan seperated for the light and the fan curve
Jay has a video on some sort of open source software that can do that. It was a while back but I’m pretty sure it’s less than a year ago.
Instead of using their own connectors and making the walled garden solution, they could have just utilized USB-C connector. Making each fan into a small USB-C device and hub. And then follow standards and made it compatible with everything. USB-C now supports higher voltages and power delivery, so 12v wouldn't be a problem. It can also carry data and display signals - no need to re-implement the wheel and make proprietary standards. Price wise would be the same, but flexibility would be unbeatable. Instead of going with their controllers, you could just put a USB-c hub into your computer and you'd be good to go. Also, there's no Linux version on official website for their software... So yeah, in theory it's good, but they could have made it much much better.
Adding miriad of hubs in the computer seems to want to create issues, you are still limited to 7 tiers in USB 3.0. Carrying thunderbolt - the price def will go up. I'll keep my cooling functional.
I really dont think this matters at all because regardless of the connector its only going to work with Corsair's products. Since it only works with their fans and hub it doesn't matter what the connector is.
You could just use the pinout for linking, 20pins to work with gives 4pins for rgb, 2pins for power, 14pins for control and pwm return. If they went data +power with processing on the fan you can hit 127device addresses.
Problem with USB C is they are not all created equal. Only certain cables can handle 100 watts of power. While i can not find power specs for the new Link system it would by all means appear to be power hungry since it is powered by a 6 pin PCIe connector so we are looking at a max of 75 watts or 6.25 amps at 12 volts. I wonder how much juice 13 fans, 1 water pump and over 416 LED's pull? I also get that they want you using their product hence the proprietary plug. Just about every manufacturer out there does this but it would be nice to have just 1 plug so you could mix and match as you please.
Well done OP, you eventually answered your own question as to why they made a walled garden.
Great content Jay! My issue is that as cool as this new tech is, it still has the "proprietary" problem meaning, no openness, no open source and no Linux support. So even if I had the money, I still could not support it because it's useless for me as a primary Linux user. I still applaud the effort of Corsair tho.
sadly they aint marketing it for linux users.(most linux users rn are steamdeck users so...)
@@kuma8030 SteamOS only accounts for about 30% of Linux users on Steam. The majority are still running desktop Linux.
How does this get back to a system like in the AX1600i PSU where they could just discontinue the software and get rid of the cohesiveness of the products installed
I suspected such issue would be prominent with linux. OpenRGB tries to address this, but... it's, not really able to support it all sadly.
I guess our best bet is to dual boot, for, freaking RGB... *urh*
the 3 linux users... stop being a moron, linux cant do anything worth cooling, bet you own a iphone then typed this dribble
Would love to see an open-loop build with the new fans & hub mixed with some of the older Corsair stuff, like the JTC water block and a pump/res combo, and see how well they work together/what cable mess might still be needed for the older gear
I have the JTC waterblock and pump/rez combo, I was asking the same thing.
fwiw, I'm currently running the new h170i AIO with link, and 6 140mm QL fans with a commander core. I haven't had any issues. The AIO was inadvertently purchased as a gift for me (wanted the normal one), but I decided to switch over to the new ecosystem going forward. As Jay said, I'm not really happy with the prices of everything, especially the cables. hopefully the prices come down a bit, or there will be some sales.
Im sold. Gimme it NOW. It was a headache getting my current PC setup with all Corsair fans and AIOs of different models. This would solve ALL the issues I have with Corsair stuff. Well done, Corsair team.
I always avoided corsair when it came to fans/argb and controllers and everything just because of the absolute mess it was. Now I might lean towards them just because of the simplicity and quality of it all. Love it! Thanks Jay and crew!
This would be good in a non-RGB variant as well in terms of simplifying cable management and limited fan headers. Even my last build with something like half a dozen headers needed a couple y-splitters for fans.
Yep. RGB is fun sometimes, but these days, even with a glass panel, I would rather not pay for it. It's cool enough to see inside the box.
I absolutely loathe RGB
Lian-Li P28 is what you want.
What if I told you….. you can turn RGB off….? Lol
I feel safe amongst my non RGB friends.
Small clarification on the 160 LED limit. It's not that the 5 Volts do not provide enough "Volts" for more (the LEDs are chained in parallel, the Voltage doesn't drop) but it draws to much current for the wires at the source, so it's actually too much power for the system.
Again, you don't "run out" of voltage. The new 12V system just allows for more power while keeping the same wire gauge.
Power = Voltage * current. more voltage means less current needed. also 12v is probably partially due to the new ATX12v thing (which I hope doesn't become a thing since motherboards and their manufacturers are already annoying enough as it is)
Doing some digging it seems like 5V3pin headers on mobos these days are 3A rating, and I've heard through the grapevine that it best not to max that out which means for certain fans with RGB (400-600mA) you can put like 4 daisy chained together on one header safely unless an alternate power source is introduced, which is exactly why Lian Li's system allows up to 4 fans per daisy chain even when it is plugged into their hub, because those fans can be plugged into the mobo directly. (and maybe the hub with the 7 pin connectors have a the same limit per header, IDK)
use better wire cheapskates. sincerely the Christmas lighting community,
@@glebglub That's only true if you're talking transformers,
If you're on 12v compared to 5v, you can easily add more with less current
I wonder how much juice this new link system pulls. I mean 13 fans, 1 water pump and over 416 LED's and uses a 6 pin PCIe connector which is 75 watts or 6.25 amps.
Really appreciate you making an in depth look at iCue Link, Jay, even with all the Computex hype that they put out and their shorts that showed off the product. I don't appreciate the price, but I can understand that this thing is overengineered, and the price is reflecting that, so I think it's up to the consumer to vote with their wallet. Granted, Corsair makes pretty good cooling solutions for PCs, so they're likely to receive a lot of support for a completely redesigned product. As for the layout, I'm pretty sure each branch from the control module only supports up to 7 devices, so you can have two triples of fans and an AIO on the front of the case from one lead, then a triple and a single coming from the other lead. There's also the option to use a push-pull configuration on the AIO for the front, but you lose out on having another set of fans in the second intake unless you buy a second control box (if you're loading the thing to bear). Anyway, I'm probably going to take a hard look at these for my next build, but with the cost being more than Lian Li's Uni fans, I'll have to weigh the options.
That's correct, each port can drive 7 devices. So the "low-power mode" issue wasn't because the CPU block uses much more power, it's just that it was the 8th device on that port(3 top fans, 1 rear fan, 3 radiator fans, 1 cpu block).
If you put the biscuits together you get French toast 😂
I love these fans. My only complaint is how expensive they are for a fan with a gimmick.
So this is like Lian-Li's Unifan solution. I just wish they had been forward thinking enough to make the Strimer cables compatible with the controllers for the Unifan ecosystem,
And yes, please support Steve and Wendell's OpenPleb project. After 20 years of case lighting in various forms, it is LONG overdue for us to get some form of standardization.
counter-point: the unifan ecosystem should have futureproofed being able to power the higher-current water-pumps and not just LEDs+fan
@@glebglub I am not going to disagree. I do wish that I had known these were in the pipeline 3 weeks ago.... but, it's not that big a deal for me.
@@harlech2 feel free to disagree, I was just being an ass for the fun of it lol. the Lian Li fans are cool too it's just a shame/ironic they're not truely uniform, but without a unified standard across all mnufcturers that was always going to be a low hanging fruit to make a joke on. so long as you like them that's all that matters
@@glebglub No, no... not going to disagree... just to be an ass lol. Did you catch the article that Steve from GN and Gordon from PCWorld did on OpenPleb? It addresses essentially this very issue.
@@harlech2 I didn't catch the artcile but I saw the video of Steve & Wendell talking about it at least. from dotting around the comments it seems Corsair is up for licensing their solution, but whether they'll make it open source is up for debate. hopefully they do but time will tell.
honestly it doesn't affect me directly either way, I'm more interested in those metal fans by AlphaCool (Apex Stealth?) which are meant to sound as loud as Corsair's fans@900 RPM whilst running at 2900RPM, so I know what fans I'll be spending £30 on, if/when they do a 140mm version (and if they sit flush against a radiator to prevent air bleeding out the sides, but for that there's duct tape). I'll take silent operation over blinky lights any day to keep my tinitus at bay
Love the idea, and I think Corsair did a great job.
But make it an open standard.
The LAST thing the industry needs is more e-waste from proprietary fans, etc.
Hell, I'll be nice and even say they can recoup their investment first, but once they've gotten that, make it open source.
Nice, Corsair took from Lian Li and Thermaltake to create a very nice hybrid, of course it'll cost twice as much but no one will notice lol. Great video! Can't wait to see if these will last longer than the 90 days my LL120 sets did.
Last time I built a PC (4-5 years ago now....) I chose all Corsair for anything RGD so I'd only have 1 RGB control program on my desktop (the only spot I didn't get Corsair was my Motherboard which was ASRock). After seeing this I'm thinking Corsair may have my next build as well.
Finally its been done, that is so going on my new rig shopping list , modlar simplicity neat. More brands need to go this route.
I would really love if they brought this system to a non-RGB variant - the cables, all in a single connector - that's an amazing idea and it would be awesome to see that brought to more budget friendly options (or for folks not wanting RBG on everything). Just a very clean way to wire things up.
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@@ccgert RGB is over rated/hyped.
@@GoatzombieBubba oh it definitely is not to mention dumb 😝😋
lian li p28 fans are probably what you looking for
I agree. Although rgb is fun but just like me, you eventually grow out of it and realise there are way better performing fans for a fraction of the price.
I filled up my PC with thermaltake toughfans (was going for noctua nf-a12 but was way too expensive, at least here in Australia) and honestly Its totally worth it.
Great video Jay 👍🏻
I think Corsair said it supports 7 devices per side of the hub.
So 14 devices in total per hub.
Greetings
yeah he had 8 thats y a fan didnt light up
@@BigMoneyButters If you need more then 14 devices connected for rgb - you can get a 2nd controller hub which would make it so you can use upto 28 devices.
Exactly!
In my case, I used the Commander Core XT with 5 fans(2 140 ML and 3 120 LL), 2 temp sensors and 2 RGB strips. Works fine in my case now. I used to use the other commander core and the nightmare that was lowered my desire to work with Corsair fans in the future. I was truly hoping the announcement would have applied to all of their current fans and whatnot, but when i saw it was going to be more expensive fans and more proprietary connections, I knew i was done with it. Not gonna trash Corsair or anything, seeing that my system is mostly Corsair anyways. But I guess for now Ill wait till either something craps out or Corsair makes "cheaper fans." /s
Cute Jay, you admitted to missing a few screws...But that setup is way overdue, truly about time someone did that.
I love Jays reaction when he sees the rats nest of wires at the beginning of the video. I will never get over that. Have seen that reaction like 5 times and laugh every time. Love you guys
I just really like that after Lian Li had the great idea of connecting fans to each other with the Uni fan; that now others are creating their own version. so nice for the cable management.
Are you sure you can link 14 on a single channel? I thought it was 7 per channel for 14 total on one controller.
As someone who primarily uses and likes Corsair's products, I am excited to see this solution. Once I saw Lian Li's Unifan back when they released, I was like, "I wish Corsair would come up with a solution like this because cable management is a pain." It is a bit pricey but I'll certainly pay it for that amount of ease.
Agreed. I happily dropped for 2 triple packs of QX fans, an additional QX fan for exhaust, and an h150i aio. If it can clean up my cabling, i'll happily pay corsair to reduce the labor I have to put in to maintaining and upgrading my PC - more time for my games
Stuff like this is the whole reason I bought a PC. Not just because it's more powerful than the Xbox and Playstation, but because of how involved you are with your system, it really feels personal and I love it. Plus no stupid subscriptions and more access to multiple "exclusives" and indie
Saw this 1 day before I started my first build and had ordered non-link corsair stuff. I think this video saved me. Thank you so much!!!
Love the idea, wish there was a bit more openness, or at least more integration into the ecosystem for lighting from motherboard/case/gpu manufactures to get one lighting control for everything.
While I saw from the initial details they had available you can have 7 devices on each channel from the hub, 14 total, it would be interesting to hear a review of the cooling on the AIO, as well as their pumps and water blocks that will be part of the ecosystem.
That explains why the light didn't work. He was at 8 devices on 1 side.
It's definitely about knowing your customer base. I've never built a personnel rig that's had RGB lighting, I've never seen any use for it. But many people love it and for those who do, I'm sure they'll find this quite attractive.
I certainly did. Bought 2 triple packs, an additional 120 case fan for exhaust, the aio, and the cable kit
Given that even with the past couple of revisions of their pre-Link AIOs they've eventually introduced models with less RGB, I'm optimistic that they'll do something similar in the Link product lines. But I'm not surprised they introduced the flashier parts first. After all, improved RGB management is part of this new ecosystem, they want to show it off from the get-go.
Though this isn't a true fix due to the extraordinarily high price tag, it will hopefully be a start for more budget brands to implement the same tech.
I just bought this AIO with the LCD screen hub and two 3 packs of fans for my new build! I've always been a Corsair fanboy and while iCue has its issues, the sheer amount of cables in a case with a 360 AIO and 6 fans (9 fans total) was absolutely insane! I'm so excited to get this all set up!
I just purchased the fans with the link hub. I wasn’t too happy that the extreme profile was not ramping fan up to 100% under load. But building a custom fan curve fixed it.
So overall I love it. Fans are much smoother and quieter. Doesn’t sound as choppy as my old fans did when they ramped up. New AIO is next whenever I have a little extra cash. And by the way the wiring is so so so much easier to setup and much cleaner too.
Love the idea, sure would have been tempted at $30-$35 a fan, but this is too much.
But I'm surprised the AIO isn't around $350 to be honest.
Hope the other brands will catch up quickly.
I feel like the AIO is the entry point. I thought the price fair too... however the cynic in me thinks that all AIO's go to it locking you into the ecosystem.
If you're interested, I just did a little bit of digging, and there was already something close : Thermaltake Swafan.
They are magnetic, they have a similar system of 1 cable for 3 fans (that I know of, maybe more) they blow 53 CFM and they are sold with a reverse helix if you want to reverse the flow of the fan to not have the amature of the fan ruining the RGB. And they are around $90 for 3 fans + 3 reverse helix + 1 hub.
Tell me if I'm wrong but I guess I made my choice.
Glad to see they are updating. I have 10 Corsair RGB fans in my case and I am about to replace all of them with Lian Li 120 Infinity fans for just the reasons you mentioned. Also I'm not nuts about the iCue software. It keeps losing communication with the RGB on my Corsair AIO. Anyway, I'm anxious to see how this change works out.
This is something that tempts me for my next full-loop system to use Corsair Link fans on EK rads, if Corsair partnered with EK to add Link to EK blocks and pump/res combos that'd be dream state for me.
It's expensive, but that's to be expected with a first-gen release like this new stuff, hopefully over time prices come down.
Never gonna happen
I wonder where you're supposed to connect the Corsair lighting strip in this new world. I fear that you will still need to use the CommanderPro and lighting nodes for that.
Love it . I'm very happy to see Corsair finally make a better lighting setup. Definitely upgrading my PC with this .
this is amazing! its missing one thing in my opinion, reversable fan blades.
I hate the cage on the back when you need to flip it around for input on the bottom of a case
it's that way on purpose - it prevents dust getting into the hub/motor. fans built like that would last like 3 months before having to take them apart completely so stop them rattling/grinding/overheating, bearings breaking, hydro-fluid bearings needing to be re-juiced, and whatever else I can't think of right now (and also high pressure causing the fan blades to just fly off and be unstable anyway lol) the closest you'd maybe come by is having the plastic be transluscent/transparent, if plastics reliably sturdy enough for the structural strength + not blocking flow by being thin with the visual property exist
@@glebglub thermaltake, cool master, Antec and phanteks are capable of doing it, I’m sure corsair can.
Really great video Jay. Enjoyed the content, but I have criticisms aimed at the product itself.
Fun names are great and everything, but we really don’t need even more proprietary connectors. This doesn’t fix anything other than issues Corsair introduced themselves, with another system that locks you into it… which will probably run into the same issue again when they come up with yet another aio with a new connector.
This
im honestly surprised corsair didn't do this a long time ago. Considering that Lian Li had the daisy chain fans and made using fans a HELL of a lot easier. my case has 9 corsair fans and i ended up removing 3 because it was just way too many cables and the hub couldn’t fit all of them.
Where is the stock rgb controller? Is it on the mobo?
@@ArctecGemini Stock RGB is an "ARGB" pin connector on Mobo. It drives a single bios-set RGB profile to any fans connected to it via splitters. Not sure what the device number cap is on that, depends on number of LEDs.
@@FedjaHvastija And this wire with the splitters it comes with the mobo right? Sorry im gonna do my first build in the near future and im trying to learn all i can 😅
maybe it was the plan, but like how Noctua spent 5 years designing a FAN, Corsair wanted to make sure to do it right. the fact you can power a water pump on the daisy chain is a testament to that imo
@@ArctecGemini nothing fan related comes with the mobo. All cables and hubs are usually included with cooling components.
Jay! Got to get on you for something.
5v vs 12v doesn’t means anything on length of LED run. Thats the amperage of the line. If you have a 5v 2a PS a string of 160 LEDs is about the end. But if you change it out to a 5v 10a. You have have double.
Voltage doesn’t mean anything. As someone that runs LEDs with ARGB lines.. and WLED micro controller.. sometimes you can also just add more power to the end via power injection. But again. The voltage doesn’t matter.
Ok. Sorry. Go on! Love ya!
Glad this came out AFTER I built my custom Corsair cooling loop with 21 fans 😞
I wish it’s using a more open standard, rather than more proprietary stuff :(
These people dont remember the nightmare that the early 90s and earlier were regarding the proprietary hell of connecting anything to do with a PC. You want more apple BS? Because this is how you get more Apple BS.
would be great if these fans came with caps as well because if i remove the connectors, those ports will be exposed to dust etc
Absolutely love it! Thx for sharing. Planning builds in the past was way too difficult relative to cables and connections pho sure
Now I feel so stupid for buying 10 QL fans and two Commander Core Pro controllers 2 months ago...
So glad I've been waiting to build a new PC. This looks so easy!
This looks absolutely amazing! With how simple this looks, I wouldn’t mind spending $200 on the kit! 3 fans, hub controller, and less cabling?! I’m happy for Corsair coming out with a product that makes it super easy for everyone at any pc building level to install in their pc! 💙
Hey Jay, this looks great, they had to play catch up with other manufacturers and the wires look perfect. Corsair fans are beautiful, but they don't blow and thereby cool anywhere close to other brands you've shown. If Corsair can make the fans so they actually move enough air for the price they charge, then they'll have something here.
RGB and cable management are important to me, but cooling is the most important thing for everyone. Again, I refer to the price. I think I know why they named it after food items. They just got done smoking some serious weed and had the munchies That can be the only reason for those prices.
I was holding out for this, but damn! I knew it would carry a premium, but $50 per fan and no cable is crazy.
Having said that I think the AIO is actually decent value for what you get
Yea thats 300 notes for 6 fans, lol, theyre on drugs.
lmao corsair is out here raping the fanboys on prices. after my experience with corsair's high end products in the past, i wouldn't buy their fans if they were ten bucks a piece and had twice as many lights inside
@@Crunkmaster Or me, its all overpriced tat
6:27 yoooooooooo i am just like nick like WHAT?!?!?! SO GLAD YOUY DID THIS REVIEW! this was the last peice of my new build puzzle for super fun enthusiest memery and this could be truly game changing lets goooooo
23:07 sweet freaking gosh jay i have never geeked out so hard seeing you put that stuff otgether and how cool it loosk and how nice they did with the softrware. this will deffinitly be a shake up to the market nad my only hope s that i can get the 3 fan set, and the 3 fan AIO before they sell out XDXDXD but hoenstly thanks agin for the vid cause this is exactly what my heart nedeed even if my wallet will kill me hahaha~ im the idiot over here trying to cheap out on my GPU fto save 200$ with a 7800xt or 96950xt instead of a 4070 ti because i dont like how team green does business, buuuuuuuut id also drop 300$ EASILY on a system this fucking interesting hahaha cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers I CAN FINALLY BE A FAN AND LIGHTING NERD AGAIN LOL
The new system is amazing, but excessively expensive. The next step is for each brand to make its own version and hopefully in a few years there will be a universal system more accessible to everyone.
I don't use RGB but I love to see this. I'd love it even more if Corsair document how the hardware works and make it available to users who wish to write software that interfaces with it on Linux and other systems.
Same, I don't use RGB because it's such a mess on Linux, and I don't need rainbow puke pointed at me while I work, or game.
I think the 14 devices have to be split between the two connectors at the hub. Like 7 on each or something, like you had 7 fans and a pump, though it is still fine, as 14 devices is a lot of stuff, with minimal cluttuer... I think this is good.
Yes, it's 14 devices per hub, but only 7 devices on each of the two channels for that hub. That part of the video actually answers one question I had when I first saw iCUE Link introduced, whether a triple-fan AIO counts as 1 device or 4(one pump and three fans), guess the answer is 4, which I suppose does make sense.
Looks interesting but I'm not sold on proprietary system with just another cable.... atleas they sell cables separately in case you need the other one. But we will see :) Looking forward to seeing you build with that.
As someone who just built 3 computers using commander core XTs... i wish that i had this new setup! It would have taken me a hell of a lot less time to connect, and route, all of the "cables!"
When replacement comes, i will def. be looking at this new setup! Hopefully it will be cheaper by then!
I saw an ad for this not too long ago and I decided to wait for this to be available to finally buy a 360mm AIO. Once I've got that, like you said, I'm into the ecosystem and I can just get the other fans I need to revamp my PC's cooling and lights.
Being one of the current Corsair customers, I love this! However, again being in the current system, it's way too hard to switch to something like this at the moment. Their normal stuff is horrible when it comes to wires, but it's still really nice and isn't cheap. It's still a waste of money to switch from what I have right now (8 QL fans, aio, and 3 hubs/controllers) when I already spent so much on the current offer from Corsair. Essentially, I'd have to swap my $580ish Corsair setup for another overpriced Corsair LINK setup. If I was building a new PC, I'd definitely consider this but it may be worth while to wait since it's a brand new product. Brand new, first gen technology usually have their problems when initially released. They usually get improvements and cheaper when the next round of products come out. Maybe when my AIO eventually dies, I'd buy into a new link AIO but its not worth trading the current offering Corsair has if everything is working fine.
But cleaning the pc will be a lot easier with the new link stuff because I don't even bother doing it very much right now since I hate the spaghetti cables 😂😂😂😂
its gonna be way to expensive to switch to the new stuff for anyone with water cooling. I need 10 fans, so 3 starter packs and a single. the starter packs are 160, and the single fans are 40. Thats 520 just for the fans. The its gonna be 200 for the waterblocks, and probably 40 per extension cable, so im looking at like $600 or more just to swap out and get rid of some cables. thats an entire build.
Jay, you're missing the point...
The issue is having to deal with different standards for each component, a new freaking closed standard that only works with a specific lineup of a specific brand is not the fix!!!!
But. But.. But it's sponsored.
Im sold on the product, but definitely not the price tag... hopefully it will come down in price over the next few years
Damn that's progress there. Good job on the people that made this possible.
It is indeed 7 devices per port
Alright they got me, I looked it up right away. It’s going to be about 500 all in and I’ve never been an AIO fan but this looks great and clean definitely Christmas gift to self
just bought 12 of these fans for my pc. cant wait for them to arrive and have a nice and super clean build. cable management with the old fans was such a pain!
20:40 This is if you Have a Display on it. It can't hold enough Power/data from it with all the fans so they added a C one for it
Take my money! I'm glad Corsair has listened. Hopefully they release a 90 to 90 degree cable as that would be handy in most builds.
Great timing on Corsairs part, because Im building a new PC and I went kind of crazy with my fans, as the fans and their lighting are kind of meant to be the focal point inside the case. I went with the AIO plus 2 of the three fan kits and 1 additional fan for a total of 10 fans and some additional cables. This setup cost about 750 bucks, so it's not cheap going this route, but I think its going to be well worth it for what I want. Now Im just waiting "impatiently" for the stuff to arrive.
too many comments later, but i dont want to be some preaching corsair simp, but ive just naturally gravitated toward their rgb ram, esp the SL, and now with my full new build i dont want to deal with a bulky tower cooler after enjoying the slim wraith box cooler for so long, but my 5800x3d deserves something that even i cant fuck up. a 3 fan AIO might be over kill but i think itd look amazing mounted on top of my system as an exhaust if i can do it right even though the leak potential over the next 5-10 years terrifies me. so i have a lot of research to go, but aslong as the QUALIOTY of this stuff holds up for its PRICE and the absurdly satifying long term ecosystem i can nerd the hell out to in the future holds up? i could easily see myself with 7 fans and an AIO in my final build 10000%. just gotta wait till i decide how much to dump on my GPU cause itll either be ALOT or itll be way behidn the usual enthusiast tier, but ill just have cosmetic MTX $$$$ instead lmfaooooooo
Just did my entire new build with LINK kit, and I LOVE IT. Corsair really outdid themselves. I do hope to see this kind of system become universal but Corsair just spent a lot of RND money flipping the script on system RGB and cooling. I’ll spend the money for that kind of cable management, side LEDs, and solid cooling with alerts. My 13900k and 4080 now have the home they deserve
the aio fans didnt all light up because its 7 devices per channel.
Died at the INFINITE POWER clip. This looks sweet. Love anything Corsair anyway (except for the iCue software as of late, (won't even install on a fresh install of Windows due to some location / country error) but regardless, love their stuff.
It's not cheap, it's not a cheap product, it's premium, it's first to market and it's well constructed. Refreshing to see a quality product and innovation. Nice one Corsair.
I'm really looking forward to this and, quite frankly, as someone who already has Corsair fans, I'd seriously consider changing my current fan set up out for the ease of use (and troubleshooting) this new link presents. The main thing I hate about current Corsair fans are, like you say, the ridiculous number of wires... and trying to remember which wire I labelled as which fan!
Circled back to this video because it was mentioned in yhe newer one and i missed this one.
I just bout two of the 140mm.
I tried the original trying to get it set up and fit is what had me buildimg my pc for 24hrs straight and still had to remove and return it. Im excited to try this
I'm completely sold. I've been waiting for a replacement for their wiring that makes sense. Now I can upgrade the 12 LL120's in my case and the three commander pro's and however many rgb hubs. This will prep me for a full custom loop later.
Challenging you like from Blood Sport for the comment you made about how easy it is to remove the fan @ 13:30ish in the video.
"Break the bottom brick Frank."
In this case, "Take off the middle fan Jay." 🤣
Back to the product review, I don't think I'm updating my corsair ecosystem unless I'm rebuilding a new pc from the ground up.
LL120 white 3pack fans at the time when I bought 2x was $130 each. Then I had to get a commander pro $50. Then I got a 360 AIO from them $200 at the time which came with a commander core. Then I got 1 single fan for the rear of the case to match the system fans $30 individually. Don't forget the LED controller had to be used too on previous generation LL120s (before commander core was released).
$510 BEFORE sales tax on just fans alone + 1 AIO for ONE system. (I have 3 total in my household)
My wifes pc has commander pro + the led controllers. (donated parts from my black LL120s + O11 Mini in Black)
My current build has commander pro + commander core. (white LL120s + O11 Evo in White)
Biscuit connector makes sense because if you actually think about the connections between each fan, its exactly like a biscuit you would use in woodworking and jointing.
Jay, Your face is really priceless in EVERY AD
A much needed update to Corsair's iCue ecosystem. If I do a new build in the future, I will probably use this.
Id rather buy normally priced fans and spend the extra money on something else
Yes, it's expensive but if it works the way it's supposed to then it's well worth the simplicity, management, and reduced cable mess. I've already ordered the 140mm fan kit and 2 additional 140mm fans to go in my 7000D Airflow, and once the custom colling pieces come out, I'll likely replace my current Hydro-X parts with them as well.
6:25 oh Phil you crack me up 😂😂
Jay having to search for the screws for the rear fan is actually good. It shows a realistic time for the average joe, because let's honest, most of us are going to misplace the screws just like this.
These at 160 vs lian li ones at 100 (3 pack with controller), yeah they are not cheap but because now we are seeing more options and more competition i wanna see how much the price can improve, they are premium products but at that price idk if they make more sense than buying the lian li options
I really hope that corsair opens this all up to the "openpleb" so that it is more open source and others can use it because this is amazing and could be a really good standard
2 years ago I built a 9 fan corsair QL fan system and let me tell you what a nightmare that was with the commander and all the cables you needed to use, can't wait to build my next pc with this system of fans.
Definitely gonna consider going with this system for my next build (whenever that may be). I just wonder if Corsair couldn't have just made the cables be a standard USB-C instead of something proprietary.
I love how clean this is and plan to use it.
18:26 okay okay okay THIS right here just sold it for me 😮 - I HAAAAATE having those janky cables running out the AIO block, so getting rid of those for ONE cable at the rad end .. 🤯 👏
This is amazing! I have 2 fans that have been broken fur weeks with the new fans sitting on top of my pc. I keep putting it off because it's going to be a nightmare. If I had this setup, they would have been replaced the day they were delivered. 😀
Man… so clean. I also sniggered every time Jay said “biscuit”, just like “shtuff”.
They listened to you about the double-sided tape. I just ordered the starter fan kit and it comes with the tape in addition to.