Hey, great question, in theory it should be fairly much the same. Ultimately, it's about the "why", why you are using this technique in the first place. Since we are using it to balance the mix, where ever you feel there is something missing is where you could throw the reverb to, in order to fill the space a little more.
Neat. I‘ll try keep this in mind for my next dialogue mix. Most of the time I‘ll be Abby-ing my reverb tracks too, except,when folks talk in a closet or for effect :) .
Great content and excellent explanation. I kinda use the same work flow very similar to the way you do it. The stereo panning is definitely better than balance. Subscribed!! Well done 👍
What about just flipping L/R on the bus? Then you need only one bus, and it will flip the sides what ever source you feed the bus with. Instead of flipping sides in the end, you could use the Logic pan/balance plugin in the beginning of the chain (don’t remember the name). Some times use of dual mono on the plugins gives the control you need. Dual eq, dual comp, dual reverb. Then you even get a good gain and frequency control on both sides. For even better L/R effect control on each instrument or instrument section, send them via separated buses for control of the L/R before they hit the effect bus. And even better, put on an eq, and comp for solo instruments/vocals for side chain ducking on those pre effect buses. Or is there a specific reason why you use two stereo buses for strings? Or one bus per instrument section?
…or turn on independent pan on your sends. Then you can send multiple sources to the same stereo reverb, but the wet signal for each of them can have its own place anywhere in the stereo image.
There are definitely loads of ways to do this technique, I've only shown one of them, but each one comes with its pros and cons. A simple L/R swap could be great (either on the stereo pan knob itself or using the gain plugin at the front of the chain), but that will be a mirror image, which might not be great when you want to push the reverb further out than the original source might have been. Obviously, I've just shared a quick example today out of context from a mix, but I use a myriad of different techniques depending on the circumstance, which can change from genre to genre, project to project. Sounds like, if you have a few ideas that come to mind as well, that you might also work like that, with your own preferences and workflow. Sometimes, workflow or simply keeping something "straight in your head" might be the reason to do it a particular way (I often teach methods that are either simple to do or simple to understand to help my students in class, it might not be the way they end up doing it in the future as they get more skills to help them out). All of this is to say, there are many ways to do the same thing, which is great for us as we get to pick our favourite.
I have even faster workflow for this: just use one tiny room reverb and send all instruments to that, but in the aux before reverb plugin, insert gain-plugin and swap left & right. Voila!
Definitely a great option if you want a cohesive, single space. I do tend to use multiple reverbs, particularly in hybrid orchestrations or rock/pop productions, so the short reverb here is the first step, with additional reverbs that come later.
@@StephenOConnellCmdShiftNew yeah! of course I use multiple reverb sends! And reverbs inside the chains too. But when it comes to a ”swap stereo space” (that’s what I call it), a single bus is plenty!
Brilliant. Such clear and precise instruction! Thank you
This is a common way to process hard panned guitars. Very cool trick.
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nicely explained and presented... thanks
Yeah. I too use that method on some occasions. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
Is there any difference to the method recommended here, if using Direction Mixer inserts on each track rather than Stereo Pan?
Hey, great question, in theory it should be fairly much the same. Ultimately, it's about the "why", why you are using this technique in the first place. Since we are using it to balance the mix, where ever you feel there is something missing is where you could throw the reverb to, in order to fill the space a little more.
Neat. I‘ll try keep this in mind for my next dialogue mix. Most of the time I‘ll be Abby-ing my reverb tracks too, except,when folks talk in a closet or for effect :) .
Very useful. Thx
Great content and excellent explanation. I kinda use the same work flow very similar to the way you do it. The stereo panning is definitely better than balance. Subscribed!! Well done 👍
What about just flipping L/R on the bus? Then you need only one bus, and it will flip the sides what ever source you feed the bus with. Instead of flipping sides in the end, you could use the Logic pan/balance plugin in the beginning of the chain (don’t remember the name).
Some times use of dual mono on the plugins gives the control you need. Dual eq, dual comp, dual reverb. Then you even get a good gain and frequency control on both sides.
For even better L/R effect control on each instrument or instrument section, send them via separated buses for control of the L/R before they hit the effect bus. And even better, put on an eq, and comp for solo instruments/vocals for side chain ducking on those pre effect buses.
Or is there a specific reason why you use two stereo buses for strings? Or one bus per instrument section?
…or turn on independent pan on your sends. Then you can send multiple sources to the same stereo reverb, but the wet signal for each of them can have its own place anywhere in the stereo image.
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I belive it’s part of my explanation, but good to mention 👍
There are definitely loads of ways to do this technique, I've only shown one of them, but each one comes with its pros and cons. A simple L/R swap could be great (either on the stereo pan knob itself or using the gain plugin at the front of the chain), but that will be a mirror image, which might not be great when you want to push the reverb further out than the original source might have been. Obviously, I've just shared a quick example today out of context from a mix, but I use a myriad of different techniques depending on the circumstance, which can change from genre to genre, project to project. Sounds like, if you have a few ideas that come to mind as well, that you might also work like that, with your own preferences and workflow. Sometimes, workflow or simply keeping something "straight in your head" might be the reason to do it a particular way (I often teach methods that are either simple to do or simple to understand to help my students in class, it might not be the way they end up doing it in the future as they get more skills to help them out). All of this is to say, there are many ways to do the same thing, which is great for us as we get to pick our favourite.
What was app/hack you used at 4:32 to pull up your reverbs? I need that in my life.
Ah, it's called Plugsearch and it has made it so much easier to find plugins I want: ua-cam.com/video/Lds8RnGvxh4/v-deo.html
@@StephenOConnellCmdShiftNew Thanks I needed this.
I have even faster workflow for this: just use one tiny room reverb and send all instruments to that, but in the aux before reverb plugin, insert gain-plugin and swap left & right. Voila!
Definitely a great option if you want a cohesive, single space. I do tend to use multiple reverbs, particularly in hybrid orchestrations or rock/pop productions, so the short reverb here is the first step, with additional reverbs that come later.
@@StephenOConnellCmdShiftNew yeah! of course I use multiple reverb sends! And reverbs inside the chains too. But when it comes to a ”swap stereo space” (that’s what I call it), a single bus is plenty!