Impressive. Far from the wine cork with acupuncture needles, that’s for sure! lol It is fun though. Great gift idea I would say. Have you heard of the Umikot? They call it the ‘Planetary Gear Spirograph WDT’. You can get the 3D printer files for free.
But is it far from a wine cork and needles? Seriously, they both do the same exact job, so what's the advantage here? Owning a fancy toy? On the other hand, the advantage for not owning on of these is that I save $200 bucks right out of the gate! These so-called "improvements" are nothing more than extra ways that some people come up with to take other people's money!
Sure. After all, the WDT is a relatively new tool in the barista arsenal, people made do without a long time before it made its appearance on the market. It’s a gadget thing, obviously, but the same can be said with fishing and all the fish lures and fish scents and whatnot, one wonders if it’s really for the fish or just to lure in the fisherman lol. But sometimes, those gadgets are just fun and interesting, so why not? They’re not required, you can make do with just a plain one, hand operated, so FOMO beware! @@RumbleFish69
Interesting, but there seems to be a design flaw that I noticed immediately. Seems like this will only work provided the two locking "wings" are directly in the center of your portafilter. I own a Gaggia Classic and my portafilter has the locking wings on a slant, so I couldn't even load this device on my portafilter. In other words, standard locking wings are located at the 9 O'clock and 3 O'clock positions, but on the Gaggia, the locking wings are located at the 8 O'clock and 2 O'clock positions. So, I don't think that my portafilter would even load onto this device. And, this device does not appear to be adjustable for that. But, here's the other thing.... Can we just stop it with all of these so-called "improvements?" I have a regular WDT tool, which I paid $7 bucks for on Amazon, and I felt stupid buying that thing. But what's even worse, this same WDT tool now goes for $27 on Amazon! A $20 hike because people now believe that they need this extra thing that we didn't even know about several years ago! I think we're getting ridiculous with these so-called improvements. If someone really needs to get one of these, a cork and needles still does a great job!
That’s quite the contraption for WDT. That is a cool gadget though. You taught me years ago, a wine cork and some needles. Still works today. But that’s cool.
Although nice, I beg to differ on end game! That's an apparatus, which is fine! Etsy WDT V.4 less of an apparatus and works extremely well, you tell me!!
I really don’t mind paying for good coffee tools, but $200 is a little too much for what you are getting imho. The moonraker, although the standard is a little more, seems like a more portable well build tool I would be more interested in. Less complicated, just take out and use.
Looks nicely crafted, but at its core-literally and figuratively-that (and similar concentric WDT) is inferior (IMO) to spirographic WDTs. Compare spirographs with concentric circles, and "better distribution" should be evident. I have a 3D-printed spirographic WDT-similar to Weber's Moonraker, but at one-fifth the price. Consistently does the job.
How is this different or better than the Weber Moonraker and equivalents that have planetary type motion and varying needle lengths that cover most of the puck? I have a 3D printed equivalent that does a brilliant job for under $30USD. I wouldn't call this an endgame tool.
I have the moonraker and this seems slightly worse since there's no spirographic motion, this appears to create trenches of lower compaction, just very close to each other. The raker is not perfect either and I find myself really faffing around with it before being happy about the distro. "Perfection" IMO would be this gearing system along with the motion of a raker. I don't think the etsy raker-style prints have this either do they? If not then it's to be continued if you ask me ..
@@tobiasbouma4071 trenches may act similarly to the porcupress, and spirographic is better in theory but who knows if it's better in testing...so the truth will be tasted in the cup. Wish I had all the money to compare these two.
That is such a silly contraption. It might be worth using if you have some kind of disability, though I can't think of one where a simple WDT wouldn't work better.
Not the most aesthetically pleasing, leaning more towards utilitarian. The build quality and engineering are reasonable for the price but it definitely isn't a cheap tool nor a necessary tool. If you want consistency and don't want a 3d printed plastic 1 or can't stand the thought of ponying up the money for. Weber workshops one... sure. If you're just doing 1 or 2 espresso a day seems a bit much unless you like toys.
At $200 it's way too expensive and it looks really awkward to use. I'm not impressed...
For $200 that is not nearly as bad as I was expecting for end game lol
The Weber moon raker is literally 475 not including shipping
It’s not expensive compare with force tamper…
Damn, Hoon! 188k subs!? I was here right before the pandemic when you had less than 20k. You’ve come a long way. Congrats
Impressive. Far from the wine cork with acupuncture needles, that’s for sure! lol It is fun though. Great gift idea I would say. Have you heard of the Umikot? They call it the ‘Planetary Gear Spirograph WDT’. You can get the 3D printer files for free.
But is it far from a wine cork and needles? Seriously, they both do the same exact job, so what's the advantage here? Owning a fancy toy? On the other hand, the advantage for not owning on of these is that I save $200 bucks right out of the gate! These so-called "improvements" are nothing more than extra ways that some people come up with to take other people's money!
Sure. After all, the WDT is a relatively new tool in the barista arsenal, people made do without a long time before it made its appearance on the market. It’s a gadget thing, obviously, but the same can be said with fishing and all the fish lures and fish scents and whatnot, one wonders if it’s really for the fish or just to lure in the fisherman lol. But sometimes, those gadgets are just fun and interesting, so why not? They’re not required, you can make do with just a plain one, hand operated, so FOMO beware! @@RumbleFish69
I much prefer spirographical WDT in terms of extraction and taste (which is at least partly subjective), so I mainly use the Moonraker.
You've owned both, and done a couple of coffees on both?
Another complexity to espresso workflow!
This looks like a device in a SAW movie
Interesting, but there seems to be a design flaw that I noticed immediately. Seems like this will only work provided the two locking "wings" are directly in the center of your portafilter. I own a Gaggia Classic and my portafilter has the locking wings on a slant, so I couldn't even load this device on my portafilter.
In other words, standard locking wings are located at the 9 O'clock and 3 O'clock positions, but on the Gaggia, the locking wings are located at the 8 O'clock and 2 O'clock positions. So, I don't think that my portafilter would even load onto this device. And, this device does not appear to be adjustable for that.
But, here's the other thing.... Can we just stop it with all of these so-called "improvements?" I have a regular WDT tool, which I paid $7 bucks for on Amazon, and I felt stupid buying that thing. But what's even worse, this same WDT tool now goes for $27 on Amazon! A $20 hike because people now believe that they need this extra thing that we didn't even know about several years ago!
I think we're getting ridiculous with these so-called improvements. If someone really needs to get one of these, a cork and needles still does a great job!
That’s quite the contraption for WDT. That is a cool gadget though. You taught me years ago, a wine cork and some needles. Still works today. But that’s cool.
Wine cork/acupuncture needles work too. Over complicated IMO.
That's what I use too.
Although nice, I beg to differ on end game! That's an apparatus, which is fine! Etsy WDT V.4 less of an apparatus and works extremely well, you tell me!!
Is there any discount code we can use? Thanks!
You have to lift up first before unlocking! Otherwise you will destroy the area after flatening ;-)
I really don’t mind paying for good coffee tools, but $200 is a little too much for what you are getting imho. The moonraker, although the standard is a little more, seems like a more portable well build tool I would be more interested in. Less complicated, just take out and use.
"most of my portafilters are straight" I wish I could say that about my friends 😂
Excellent review - $200! That better be a lot fun to use 😂
Looks nicely crafted, but at its core-literally and figuratively-that (and similar concentric WDT) is inferior (IMO) to spirographic WDTs. Compare spirographs with concentric circles, and "better distribution" should be evident. I have a 3D-printed spirographic WDT-similar to Weber's Moonraker, but at one-fifth the price. Consistently does the job.
3:53 this is not evenly distributed at all. All the grounds are piled up on the right side of the portafilter and the left side is sloped down
I think it has something with speed rotations it should be not too fast nor slow
How is this different or better than the Weber Moonraker and equivalents that have planetary type motion and varying needle lengths that cover most of the puck? I have a 3D printed equivalent that does a brilliant job for under $30USD. I wouldn't call this an endgame tool.
I have the moonraker and this seems slightly worse since there's no spirographic motion, this appears to create trenches of lower compaction, just very close to each other. The raker is not perfect either and I find myself really faffing around with it before being happy about the distro. "Perfection" IMO would be this gearing system along with the motion of a raker. I don't think the etsy raker-style prints have this either do they? If not then it's to be continued if you ask me ..
@@tobiasbouma4071 trenches may act similarly to the porcupress, and spirographic is better in theory but who knows if it's better in testing...so the truth will be tasted in the cup. Wish I had all the money to compare these two.
cool WDT tool but imo too big.
Just need to make it into a Puqpress
That is such a silly contraption. It might be worth using if you have some kind of disability, though I can't think of one where a simple WDT wouldn't work better.
Seems like it spins too fast and would throw around the grounds too much, for the size (and aesthetics) I'd rather get a moon raker
It spins as fast as you want. You have total control over it.
@@Serafiniert I can see that. I'm looking at the way he's using it
Moonraker is much nicer!
and works much better, i own one 😀
@@andreasguntensperger2931 I do too. I have the ultra. I own almost everything Weber has except the $2k salt and pepper and the key.
I enjoy the hobby and Love my coffee,BUT de clumping has gone wayyyy too far
Not the most aesthetically pleasing, leaning more towards utilitarian. The build quality and engineering are reasonable for the price but it definitely isn't a cheap tool nor a necessary tool.
If you want consistency and don't want a 3d printed plastic 1 or can't stand the thought of ponying up the money for. Weber workshops one... sure. If you're just doing 1 or 2 espresso a day seems a bit much unless you like toys.
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Appears to be over-engineered for what it is.
To big and bulky in this case less is more.
This is meant for comercial use, I guess.
Too big too bulky. Brian Kim’s wdt so much easier in my flow
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It's not worth the money